WM5 - Do power failures still wipe BlueAngel? - MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 Software Upgrading

WM5 - Do power failures still wipe BlueAngel? - MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 Software Upgrading

Hi,
Some may remember from a previous thread that I had problems with my SPV M2000. It appears when it goes through a power outage, I sometimes have to wait some 2 days for the entire device to run out of juice before I can get it to turn back on and run normally.
Needless to say this is a pain in the butt and results in me not trusting the device and taking my laptop with me wherever I go!
So... My question is, if I upgrade to WM5 on this device, will it still wipe itself during a power outage?? Or is that dependant on hardware as well - that the BlueAngel doesn't have?
Thanks in Advance.

It won't wipe itself, this is one of the primary benefits of WM5 and the biggest reason why I upgraded.
If you are having issues whenever the phone briefly loses power (e.g. changing battery), then there is a good chance your backup battery is broken.

No it's fine whilst swapping batteries and dropping the sim in and out. It's an issue when the main battery gets a chance to run out.
Then when I plug it in again (or place a fresh battery on it), the whole thing is dead with red flashing light. The only answer seems to be to leave it uncharged for a few days until it wipes completely and then plug it in before restoring my backups!

WM5 saves state
The only thing I lose when I run the battery all the way down is the date/time with WM5.

The only thing I lose when I run the battery all the way down is the date/time with WM5.
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Which to be fair I wouldn't mind losing!! I think I'll probably end up upgrading, is most of the software compatible between the two or should I be looking for updated versions?

mavk said:
is most of the software compatible between the two or should I be looking for updated versions?
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Most of it is compatible, but I'd go looking for updates anyway just to be sure. Always best to be running the latest version IMHO.

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Screen get's messed up with Helmi BA WM2k5 AKU2.6 during charging

Hi,
I have a Qtek9090 which I upgraded yesterday to Helmi BA WM2k5 AKU2.6 Beta (v.1.1.2 Beta).
Everything went fine and I do like it (apart from the usual problems with WiFi, BT,...).
However I got into a shock-state when I turned it on this morning after leaving it in the craddle during the night for charging:
It would turn on, but the screen was completly f..ked up!!!
I did a Softreset -> screen still messed up
I did a Hardreset -> screen still messed up
I did reflash the upgrade -> screen still messed up
I took out the battery for half an hour and put it back -> still the same
After many resets and so on, suddenly I got the color stripes again and the phone booted normaly. I did not even loose any data.
Next I put it to charge again and after a while (the screen went off meanwhile), I turned it on and guess: scrambled screen again.
This time, I did the Reset this way: battery-notch off, kept the Softreset pressed and simultaneously put the battery-notch on again.
Is this a known problem (shouldn't be - I searched the forum!)?
Why does this happen?
Any ideas???
Also, I have these questions:
- What is this selection one has to do after the upgrade for (2. and 3. item YES)? What should the first item be: YES or NO? Can this be the cause for my problem?
- Would it be wise to downgrade again? (In case this is a defect -> so I can try to claim warranty, if things get worse...)
- What is the patch for energy management for? Where can I download it, as the link in the Wiki does not work? (Has this to do with my problem?)
Thanks,
vma

The problem remains.
It does not seem to depend on the charging, but happens when the device is turned off for some time.
When I turn it on it will either work fine, or funtion with a wild flickering screen.
Arrggghhhh!!!
Am I the only one with this problem?
Cheers,
vma

Hi,
Some month have passed on this issue. The reason I did not post about it, was because I had to send my BA for repair and one never knows if the "enemy" is listening... Now the warranty has expired anyway and mey BA is fully working.
It may have been a coincidence, but one day after the upgrade the screen went mad and totally messed up. Only 1 Hardreset in about 100 tries would bring it back to normal for some period of time and even reflashing it with WM5 or 2003SE would not make it work normal again.
The screen would get messed up suddenly for no particular reason, normally during a standby.
At the end I had to send it in for repair, which was actually a good thing, as I complained about the loose stylo and bad working hardkeys, all within warranty.
I got a new key-pcb, backside and they reflashed the device with 2003SE.
I am almost sure that I must have done something wrong with the upgrade to WM5.
Strangely I was able to flash 2003SE onto it, though it did still not work properly: hours with messed screen and sometimes out of the blue I would turn it on and the screen was OK again for a few hours.
Could it be a bad cable connection, which got repaired as well? Was it just a software problem?
One of the things I was in doubt with: when you enter this menu to format the device, the instructions say to switch two options, but the menu on my device had three options. Sorry - I do not exactly recall the details.
Anyone with an idea, why my device went mad?
As a side-note: while WM5 was great, while it worked during the one day it worked. I specially liked to be able to turn the device completly off or being able to remove the battery without loosing data.
However: not having my beloved BA fo two weeks made me reconsider doing experiments on it. Since I have it back I did not reconsider flashing it again.
But I would like to understand what had happend...
Cheers,
vma

May I assume from the lack of replies, that this was a pure coincidence on my device?
Nobody else experimented this weird problems after upgrading to WM5?
I am considering upgrading my phone again, essentially because I am tired of being afraid of discharging the battery and thus losing all data...
Cheers,
vma

Odd Kaiser Problem - Shuts Down on Web Browsing

Don't know if this is a new problem or a different appearance for a common problem, but my kaiser has taken to switching off when I browse the web (on battery). On charger it's fine and I'm posting like that now.
I'll start at the beginning
For Most Web Browsing I Use Opera 9.51 Beta 15894 over the last fed weeks I had recieved a number of low space warnings and removed various programs to try and resolve it without success. I went to check the size of Opera's cache and found the Application data/Opera 9.5 Beta folder was full of Corrupted files marked at sizes ranging from 18Kb to 1.3Gb (unlikely since the drive is only 256Mb)
I tried various routes to delete these files, booting into safemode, downloading scandisk style tools (which despite advertising only scanned/repaired mmory cards.) In the end I simply renamed the folder and recreated the original Opera folder.
Since then, if I'm using the internet whilst not plugged in, the phone will turn off after 15 minutes. The browser in use doesn't matter what browser is in use (opera and skyfire have both done it)
Sometimes it then has dificulty turning back on, reaching the Windows Mobile Screen and shutting back down. But if you wait a few minutes it will turn on fully.
In some cases the battery is still full and can go a whole day of idling/using apps/making calls and texting without problems but will shut down again on using a web browser.
I'm usually quite good at isolating problems, but this has me stumped at first I though an Opera bug or Virus, but skyfire ruled out the former and I can't find any information on the existence of the latter. Does anyone have ideas/suggestions?

I don't understand why it only shuts down on battery power, that's a strange one, but I guess the first thing to do is sort your low memory problem.
Have you tried clearTemp?
http://mobisapienz.com/index.php?option=com_jdownloads&Itemid=82&task=finish&cid=50&catid=12
This attached cab can let you have a look at what is taking up space.
Have you considered backing up and hard reseting?? That sorts out every problem!

At first I thought it was a battery/charging issue - which Opera certainly does affect. If I leave Opera running in the foreground during a charging cycle then a charge won't last more than a few hours - I think the browser regularly does refreshes powering everything on and using almost as much power as it's getting in to it. But the fact in this case that after finally getting it turned back on I have enough power to go the whole day suggests it's not that.
I saw the link for these utilities earlier today and will take a shot at using them. I worry however that these corrupted files showing a size in the Gb range may throw everything off and I won't find the real culprits.
With my two previous phones (HTC Wizard and Nokia 9300) Hard Resets left me with no end of problems - so whilst I have it in my mind it will be the very very last resort.

Well I hope one of the programs helps you find the problem.
As far as hard reseting goes, it should put your phone back to normal with everything cleared!? - a fresh start!!
If I didn't flash new ROMs so often I'd do this regularly anyway just to stop the phone lagging etc....
Before I hard reset I always think "if my phone got stolen what would I be gutted about losing" - I back those up and get it done!
I'm sure you can find some free backup software on a search, PIM backup is the obvious one.....
Good luck.

i had a siemens phone some years back that had a similar problem. when connected with a pc using a special data cable connection to the rs232 port and trying to sync, the screen dimmed and after a few seconds, the phone died
problem was, the battery was not charged when connected and was way to old and damaged and unable to handle the power consumption caused by the sync. the phone worked fine with a new battery.

operative1 said:
i had a siemens phone some years back that had a similar problem. when connected with a pc using a special data cable connection to the rs232 port and trying to sync, the screen dimmed and after a few seconds, the phone died
problem was, the battery was not charged when connected and was way to old and damaged and unable to handle the power consumption caused by the sync. the phone worked fine with a new battery.
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@Operative1
I was thinking the same, especially when it started happening during phonecalls as well.
However yesterday I found that the file corruption problem had spread affecting several other apps as well as Opera. Pocket player was the worst affected.
So I went for a Backup and Hard Reset and it went off without incident. I've been intermitently testing Opera this morning and it hasn't done it yet.
I'm also know the corruption was affecting my registry, so I'm wondering if it was also affecting the charging/power management software.
I'll keep monitoring and report back if it re-appears.

Phone Shuts down when browsing web
Has anyone found out a solution to this or have any suggestions?? I am having the same exact problem. When browsing the web no matter what browser i use the phone will randomly shut off... Not a reset it just shuts off.. and u turn it back on by pushing the power button and it starts like normal. but if u go to surf the web again it will shut off..
This problem is very irritating.. I've tried flashing different roms.. hard resets.. etc.. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.. Thanks!!

h22lude said:
Has anyone found out a solution to this or have any suggestions?? I am having the same exact problem. When browsing the web no matter what browser i use the phone will randomly shut off... Not a reset it just shuts off.. and u turn it back on by pushing the power button and it starts like normal. but if u go to surf the web again it will shut off..
This problem is very irritating.. I've tried flashing different roms.. hard resets.. etc.. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.. Thanks!!
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Mine has now spread and affects everything, phone calls, texts, last night it went using Pocket Player. I've been considering fully discharging and recharging the battery but these intermittent cut-outs don't allow it to fully discharge.
I'm going to be buying a new battery soon in hopes it fixes it.

Wow thats not good im kinda concerned now.. don't have money to buy a new phone!! let me know if the battery sovles the problem.. i hope thats all it is... ThanksS!!

h22lude said:
Wow thats not good im kinda concerned now.. don't have money to buy a new phone!! let me know if the battery sovles the problem.. i hope thats all it is... ThanksS!!
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8 hours in with the new battery and no problems. I've upgraded to a 2600mA one so I'm hoping the extra life will allow me a full charge/discharge cycle to prevent it happening again. I'll also be disabling charging duuuring internet connection sharing.

Sweet so no more turning off while browsing the web??? Where did you get your battery from?? Thanks!

A new battery would be the only fix for this. I had the same problem a while back with mine and I took a volt meter to the old battery and at full charge it was only out 3.6~V instead of the 4.2 so when something like a data connection was going the phone didn't have enough power to stay on and it shut off. it got so bad at one point that I couldn't even boot the phone without plugging it in.

anyone can resolve that problem?
i have the same...
i try all, a new room, new radio, clean the contats of batery but nothing results!
my tytn turn off automatic
first occours only when i use browser, but today its all the time!
a new battery resolve your problems ConnorMac?
please help me, and sorry for my bad english, im from brazil
thnks

nandoabdalla said:
anyone can resolve that problem?
i have the same...
i try all, a new room, new radio, clean the contats of batery but nothing results!
my tytn turn off automatic
first occours only when i use browser, but today its all the time!
a new battery resolve your problems ConnorMac?
please help me, and sorry for my bad english, im from brazil
thnks
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a new battery completely solved this problem for me.. Got a cheap one off ebay..

OK, I have been having the same problems. I ordered a new battery and put it in today. It did not fix the issue. The phone still continues to turn off. Any suggestions?

travelingsurfer said:
OK, I have been having the same problems. I ordered a new battery and put it in today. It did not fix the issue. The phone still continues to turn off. Any suggestions?
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Backup any important data, contacts ect & hard reset.

A new battery fix my tilt problem
I replace the battery of my tilt on August for this
http://www.smavtronics.com/1600mah-l...lt-series.html
$18 dls shipped.
And since then has been working like a champ, no more reboots or going off, I have been using the Skyfire a lot in the last two days with the normal phone calls and the battery is still at 36%
This has been the best $18 dls that I have invest.

Mister B said:
Backup any important data, contacts ect & hard reset.
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i try 'clear storage' in the settings, put 1234, after that i install the HardSPL, put a new room and new radio version.
hard reset its different?
how i do this?

sorry for the question, when i install a new room i do a hard reset follow this steps:
d. NOTE: After you flash the ROM, when you get to the whole "Please tap the
screen to begin setting up your Windows-Mobile based device", hard reset by
holding down the two soft keys while pushing the stylus into the reset hole.
You should get to a white-colored screen. Just follow the directions on that
screen and then reboot. This fixes many issues, and is also known to make your ROM perform at 100%.
my last choise is buy a new battery!
travelingsurfer, the battery do you buy is 1600mah?
i question this because my frind have a kaiser and i change my battery with him, but my problem not solved!

I replaced it with the exact same brand/model that was in there to begin with. it is 1350mah
Once I can get it to turn on all the way again, i'm going to backup everything and try the hard reset.

Charging but led blinking

I have my Kaiser upgraded from Abusalza ROM v7 to v10.
It works like a charm and I'm loving it so far until now.
The battery is dead and when I plugged in either usb charger or power charger, the notification led lit up solid orange/amber like it supposed to and then it blinks.
I checked and later found my phone isn't charging at all. Is this related to bad battery or is it because of incompatible radio?
Oh, and when I tried to switch on the device it just hang. Perhaps it doesn't have enough juice to boot up.
Anyone got same problem with me? Please advice how to fix this.
Thanks.

If you have already cleaned the battery terminals, I would suppose it is new battery time.

Well, I was sort of having a problem similar to this running the same ROM series. For me though, the notification LED would blink, even if it wasn't plugged in and there were no notifications. I would also get it when plugged in at times. This was intermittent, since it would randomly happen for some unknown reason. To fix it, I just killed all running programs, and reset the phone once or twice and it went away.
For you, if the ROM worked fine before, but isn't working now, a bad radio would not cause your problem. An incompatible radio would have caused you boot up problems and such from the moment you flashed, not later on. Don't know exactly what to tell you, except try a new battery. Get back to us after, and if it doesn't work, we can figure something else out. Hope your problem gets resolved by the battery.

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Well, I was sort of having a problem similar to this running the same ROM series. For me though, the notification LED would blink, even if it wasn't plugged in and there were no notifications. I would also get it when plugged in at times. This was intermittent, since it would randomly happen for some unknown reason. To fix it, I just killed all running programs, and reset the phone once or twice and it went away.
For you, if the ROM worked fine before, but isn't working now, a bad radio would not cause your problem. An incompatible radio would have caused you boot up problems and such from the moment you flashed, not later on. Don't know exactly what to tell you, except try a new battery. Get back to us after, and if it doesn't work, we can figure something else out. Hope your problem gets resolved by the battery.
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Keep in mind that my phone is currently out of juice i.e. dead.
So, supposedly by plugging in the charger I can restore the battery but in this case that didn't happen.
I guess I would better off go to the shop where I bought the battery and ask a replacement. The battery was new and not even 1 months old.
I will keep you posted. Thanks for the advice guys.

Does the LED light up still, even with the battery dead? If so, wait about 20 min for it to recharge, even though I am assuming you have already done this. If it is completely drained, it most likely won't power back until it has enough power to do so on it's own, even with the charger connected.

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Does the LED light up still, even with the battery dead? If so, wait about 20 min for it to recharge, even though I am assuming you have already done this. If it is completely drained, it most likely won't power back until it has enough power to do so on it's own, even with the charger connected.
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At first it blinking and then I pulled out the battery and reinsert it into the phone. Now it lit amber light and then in few minutes turned green. Tried to switch it on and the screen loading fine until at one time it show loading icon and then shutdown.
You assumed it right though, I've been letting the phone connected to the charger since last night and still no juice pumped into the battery I presume as I can't turn it on.

I agree with WillardZ
nyunyu said:
I guess I would better off go to the shop where I bought the battery and ask a replacement. The battery was new and not even 1 months old.
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There's a technical term for items which fail very early on called infant mortality - this may be whats happened. See how it goes with a battery swapped in the shop. If you can get it to work by putting in a fully charged, known good battery but the recharging function doesn't work (or you get a flashing red light after a few minutes again), also try cleaning the spring terminals with IPA or contact cleaner applied using cotton buds. If that still doesn't work but you can boot the device into windows (with the shop borrowed battery), perform a hard reset before the battery goes flat/below 50 % and test again.

okay, I found my other battery which is I know work fine and put it in the device.
I charge it to full and now turning the device on.
While loading the touchflo, the loading icon just hang and I can't do anything.
Nothing works except sleep button.
Can you advice me how to reset this thing?
I know that battery isn't the problem here and I can't seems to do anything since it hung on me.
Oh, I tried turning the phone on without SIM and memory card and still hung.

nyunyu said:
okay, I found my other battery which is I know work fine and put it in the device.
I charge it to full and now turning the device on.
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hmmm, wonder why you didn't try that at the first hint of a suggestion it's a dodgy battery
While loading the touchflo, the loading icon just hang and I can't do anything.
Nothing works except sleep button.
Can you advice me how to reset this thing?
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I can but it'll encourage others to ask without searching first and given there's already a wiki here that covers Kaiser Resets perfectly well (and the Kaiser users manual that comes with the device - let me guess, you don't have that), you'll need to read the wiki and help yourself.

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hmmm, wonder why you didn't try that at the first hint of a suggestion it's a dodgy battery
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Not to sound rude but I did said that I 'found' my other battery which is previously misplaced whereas I said earlier I'm going to get a replacement for the dead battery.
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I can but it'll encourage others to ask without searching first and given there's already a wiki here that covers Kaiser Resets perfectly well (and the Kaiser users manual that comes with the device - let me guess, you don't have that), you'll need to read the wiki and help yourself.
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There is an instruction of how to reset the kaiser but is there a way to reset it while it is OFF or HANG?
I honestly apologies if I sound like I asked question without searching first but I honestly did not found what I'm looking for. The pda is still hang no matter how many times I restart it and I'm out of idea.

nyunyu said:
Not to sound rude but I did said that I 'found' my other battery which is previously misplaced whereas I said earlier I'm going to get a replacement for the dead battery.
There is an instruction of how to reset the kaiser but is there a way to reset it while it is OFF or HANG?
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duuuuudddeee....the page you linked to above describes a way to do a HARD RESET for your EXACT requirement...read it again.
also, if it is OFF to begin with, then powering it up (even if it hangs ultimately) is equivalent to a SOFT RESET. if it doesn't complete startup and always hangs, then a HARD RESET is the way to go.
I honestly apologies if I sound like I asked question without searching first but I honestly did not found what I'm looking for. The pda is still hang no matter how many times I restart it and I'm out of idea.
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and if by "reset it", you mean "flash a new ROM", you can search for that also and you'll find plenty of guides and tutorials and FAQs...but go one step at a time and do a hard reset first (remember, you will lose all data and non-default programs after the hard reset).

ASCIIker said:
duuuuudddeee....the page you linked to above describes a way to do a HARD RESET for your EXACT requirement...read it again.
also, if it is OFF to begin with, then powering it up (even if it hangs ultimately) is equivalent to a SOFT RESET. if it doesn't complete startup and always hangs, then a HARD RESET is the way to go.
and if by "reset it", you mean "flash a new ROM", you can search for that also and you'll find plenty of guides and tutorials and FAQs...but go one step at a time and do a hard reset first (remember, you will lose all data and non-default programs after the hard reset).
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Thanks!
I just noticed the part where it says power+camera+stylus.
Appreciate that a lot.

nyunyu said:
I just noticed the part where it says power+camera+stylus.
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You've found the right section but just the hard reset section will be applicable. You don't need the bootscreen (which is what that button combination is all about), just a hard reset (making sure the battery has a decent charge of at least 50% before starting).

Thank you for all the help.
I've managed to reset my phone back to OEM and then flash 3.34 hardspl and radio and abusalza v10. Looks like it back functioning.
Will monitor it to see what could be wrong in these few days.

Battery consumption

Everybody knows: the battery in the diamond is little bit to small for the device. sometimes i lost the power faster then i can use the device. yesterday i have filled the battery up to 100% at 10pm. in the morning at 5 am i had only 73% battery. i dont have used the device other night. i think this is not normal. i use HomeScreen++ UI, there i can measure the battery consumption. when the device is in standby, i have seen vor very short time a value for 20ma, but when the device is powered on i see values from 150 - 212ma.
What with your device? can we say, that this is normal or is this a error? whats the normal power consumption in stand by and at running time (no applications in foreground)? Can anyone give some normal value's?

dude that's very weird... are you using a standard ROM? which radio version are you using? how is the cell reception in your area or near your home? do you use GSM or 3G? there are many factors that can accelerate battery consumption...
try another ROM & make sure you have the latest RADIO I have a DAIM100 & use the 1.17.25.09 & after two years of owning it I still use the same battery & get a whole day at least, I also don't really play on my phone during the day but I sync & use GPS when travelling & also have my email on it & make & receive a fair amount of calls & txts so it depends on your particular situation...

i Have now changed my ROM to a earlir version. It uses now a COM5 Build. Before that i use a Com3 Build. As the Radio ROM is use every time the same as you (but with rilphone from 1.09). The Battery consumption is returned to normal. it uses now near 3% in 10 hours, without using the device (over night).
i dont know whats the problem with the newer ROM. The first days with the COM3 Build, the battery consumption was normal. i fear that the problem is comming with some service or program i have installes later, but i dont know what for software. BatLog couldnt help me at this point.

i'm also having the same problem, i need to charge my phone twice a day and when its fully charged from midnight it gets to about 70% by 10am how do i make it last longer and how do i update the ROM or whatever it is that you guys are talking about?

I suggest you to buy a new battery.
I had a 1800mAh from China on eBay at 10€ and i solved the problem.
Before buying it, i just had two batteries, but i had to carry in my poket another battery :\

I think BP E270 is a resolution.
It increase battery juice a little bit (1350mah) and keep your diamond in a sexy shape.
I'm using Don Salari rom (WM 6.5, TF3d 2.1) and have a fully 2 days without charging. Not so good but pretty pleased anyway.

Shaks said:
i'm also having the same problem, i need to charge my phone twice a day and when its fully charged from midnight it gets to about 70% by 10am how do i make it last longer and how do i update the ROM or whatever it is that you guys are talking about?
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There can be different reasons for abnormal battery consumption. actual i lost around 3-5% in 10 hours, without using the device. if i use it often its more, if i use wifi, hdspa or bluetooth or do i make a game, hear music or such thing, it consumes more. thats in my opinion a normal state for the diamond device.
the most important thing is the radion rom. the radio rom responsibly for the radio things in the device: Phone, hdspa, bluetooth, wifi, gps (not the fm radio). the problem is: not every radio is good for every device. on some devices the version 1.09 is good, on some other the latest 1.17.x
than there is the ROM for the device. you can see it as the operating system. at the moment im using am COM5 build (Windows Mobile 6.5.5, Version 7.00). I have had problem with 7.30, this is a COM3 build. On the Main Site of the ROM you can find intructions to flash this ROM to your device, because its not a official one.

bilbo_b said:
There can be different reasons for abnormal battery consumption. actual i lost around 3-5% in 10 hours, without using the device. if i use it often its more, if i use wifi, hdspa or bluetooth or do i make a game, hear music or such thing, it consumes more. thats in my opinion a normal state for the diamond device.
the most important thing is the radion rom. the radio rom responsibly for the radio things in the device: Phone, hdspa, bluetooth, wifi, gps (not the fm radio). the problem is: not every radio is good for every device. on some devices the version 1.09 is good, on some other the latest 1.17.x
than there is the ROM for the device. you can see it as the operating system. at the moment im using am COM5 build (Windows Mobile 6.5.5, Version 7.00). I have had problem with 7.30, this is a COM3 build. On the Main Site of the ROM you can find intructions to flash this ROM to your device, because its not a official one.
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erm... my phone is not used at all for 10 hours whilst i am sleeping and i switch my wi-fi and bluetooth off also. sometimes i even put the phone into airplane mode to see if it makes a difference but not much.
about the radio and roms, im still a bit unsure as to how that works i have a htc touch diamond which is wm 6.1 not 6.5... would it be possible to upgrade it to a 6.5 by flashing the rom?
sorry for the million questions lol im just confused as to how it all works

Shaks said:
erm... my phone is not used at all for 10 hours whilst i am sleeping and i switch my wi-fi and bluetooth off also. sometimes i even put the phone into airplane mode to see if it makes a difference but not much.
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then there is something wrong with your device. if take phone to airplane mode, it uses around 1% in 10h!!! When you have the original rom on your device. i think you have some software installed that consumes such a amount of battery or your batters is broken.
Shaks said:
about the radio and roms, im still a bit unsure as to how that works i have a htc touch diamond which is wm 6.1 not 6.5... would it be possible to upgrade it to a 6.5 by flashing the rom?
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Sure, you can upgrade, but its not a official way and you loose your guarantee. you do this al on your risk. a good German guide you can find here: http://www.pocketpc.ch/td-rom-upgrade/42092-htc-touch-diamond-rom-upgrade-anleitung.html or of English here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=416211. Most important: You should make a complete backup of all your data. there are a lot of apps, that can do this. i recommend SPB Backup. After this: Install the latest official ROM from HTC, make a Hardreset and install directly after this the unofficial ROM of your choice. after flashing, make Hardreset again, before you continue. Remember to flash first the official ROM, than Hardreset, then unofficial ROM, then Hardreset for every ROM you test. you can find many ROM's here http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=430 or here http://www.htc-developers.de/viewforum.php?f=85

bilbo_b said:
then there is something wrong with your device. if take phone to airplane mode, it uses around 1% in 10h!!! When you have the original rom on your device. i think you have some software installed that consumes such a amount of battery or your batters is broken.
Sure, you can upgrade, but its not a official way and you loose your guarantee. you do this al on your risk. a good German guide you can find here: http://www.pocketpc.ch/td-rom-upgrade/42092-htc-touch-diamond-rom-upgrade-anleitung.html or of English here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=416211. Most important: You should make a complete backup of all your data. there are a lot of apps, that can do this. i recommend SPB Backup. After this: Install the latest official ROM from HTC, make a Hardreset and install directly after this the unofficial ROM of your choice. after flashing, make Hardreset again, before you continue. Remember to flash first the official ROM, than Hardreset, then unofficial ROM, then Hardreset for every ROM you test. you can find many ROM's here http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=430 or here http://www.htc-developers.de/viewforum.php?f=85
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thank you very much for your help, i will definitely try to do this over the next few hours after your wonderful explanation... cheers mate!!

Shaks said:
thank you very much for your help, i will definitely try to do this over the next few hours after your wonderful explanation... cheers mate!!
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i got stuck and confused half way through reading what to do wish i could get someone to do this for me

For the first time, it seems to be very complicated, but it is not. Trust me.
first: Backup you whole device or only the needed data.
in the first step you need to install HardSPL. I use 1.93 from Olinex. Do a softreset after this. After the softreset i have installed the HTC Stock ROM. the easyest way is it, to put the image in the root of your internal storage. name the file DIAMIMG.nbh. Now boot in to USB Mode with holding Volume Down and Right Softkey Button pressed (the <- Key), with this pressed, to a reset with your stylus. it apears a 3 colored screen, followed by a gray screen with instructions in blue letters. follow the instructions. DO NOT destroy the internal storage, there are your backup and the image file!
With the Stock Rom installed, make a HardReset (same as Boot to USB mode, but now hold VolumeDown and the middle round button). After this put your custom ROM to the internal memory, otherwrite the Stock ROM. Boot to USB Mode and follow the instructions. When your done, make again a HardReset. The Hardresets are very important, after this last hardreset you have the device with a custom ROM.

bilbo_b said:
For the first time, it seems to be very complicated, but it is not. Trust me.
first: Backup you whole device or only the needed data.
in the first step you need to install HardSPL. I use 1.93 from Olinex. Do a softreset after this. After the softreset i have installed the HTC Stock ROM. the easyest way is it, to put the image in the root of your internal storage. name the file DIAMIMG.nbh. Now boot in to USB Mode with holding Volume Down and Right Softkey Button pressed (the <- Key), with this pressed, to a reset with your stylus. it apears a 3 colored screen, followed by a gray screen with instructions in blue letters. follow the instructions. DO NOT destroy the internal storage, there are your backup and the image file!
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thanks once again, let me start with just backing up my data to begin with... i am on the thread for hardspl 1.93 from olinex which i am currently reading through with a confused face lol
also when i press and hold the volume down button and softkey button (<-) it does not do anything (soft reset) instead i have had to download a softreset app in the past just to do a soft reset... (im using a touch diamond) ?

you must press both buttons, dont release them, do a reset (press the red dot with you stylus in the stylus slot). dont release the both buttons, hold dem pressed until the colored screen appears.

you must press both buttons, dont release them, do a reset (press the red dot with you stylus in the stylus slot). dont release the both buttons, hold dem pressed until the colored screen appears.
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To flash rom via Internal card
1. Hold Volume down and Back buttons .
2. Press the reset button.
3. Keep holding Volume down and Back buttons then release reset button.
To reset to boot-loader mode ( for upgrade Hard-SPL or flash ROM via computer )
1. Hold Volume down button.
2. Press the reset button.
3. Keep holding Volume down then release reset button, you will see tri-color screen - that is called boot-loader mode.

For Battery consumption issue - maybe your battery is too old - you should change to another one.
I'm using Galilio battery with 1400mAh - which has same size with original battery and I can use my phone 2 days ( with sense 2.5 ) or 3 days ( with sense 2.1 ) without charging.

do you have a link to the battery?

[Q] A very strange rebooting problem.

Regarding: Samsung Galaxy S3 Mini GT-I8190 - SIM unlocked version
Hello eveyone.
I'm having one of the strangest problems I've encountered with a phone before and I just can't seem to track down the problem. Please read this thread with an open mind as from what I can tell this is a unique issue that sounds like normal issues.
The main problem is that the phone keeps rebooting. From the get go this sounds like a normal issue with either the battery or power switch but here is the weird part...
It only happens when the phone is fully charged!
IBackground
I have had the phone since release and I have only ever used the stock rom that came with the phone. I don't really use phones much n general except for using it for calls texts and BBC news. I didn't even have a SD Card in it until after the problem started. Everything was running great, I never had any battery problems at all, and then a couple of weeks ago my phone contract expired with Orange and I decided that I would get a SIM only plan with EE.
While waiting for the SIM card to arrive in the post I charged my phone up one day and noticed that I had to power on the device. The phone seemed to power on fine, I could use all features of the phone, but when I turned the screen off for more then 5 or 6 seconds the phone would restart. There would give no indication that it had turned off or that it had powered off in anyway. It would simply just be blank, I'd press the power switch, and it would vibrate once and begin its start up procedure as if it had been turned off completely.
Here is where it gets weird, the phone will keep cycling on its own like this until the battery drains itself through constant reboots until about 85% juice, at which point it begins to operate functionally.
I heard that some people say they had problems with the power switch. I figured that if it was the power switch it then the problem would be consistant and would continue giving me problems when the battery was below 85%. I think I can rule out the power switch as faulty. Naturally I came to the conclusion it must be software, perhaps an APP installed which was incompatible. I tried all sorts of things, regardless I came to the conclusion it needed to be factory reset. Factory reset didn't do anything, still does it. My next thought was Firmware, it must be the firmware that was corrupt. I went through tutorials and rooted my phone, installed recovery software and ended up installing Cyanogenmod 11 (Which looks really beautiful btw, wish I had done that sooner) and buying an SD Card too do so. Still the problem persists! I read that some people had problems with swelling batteries, I replaced the battery completely just incase. £10 wasted, still does it.
At this point I'm starting to get confused. I started thinking perhaps it was the cable providing too much charge to the device, over charging somehow. Tried a different cable and a different power source. Still the poblem persists. I made sure there was no dirt in any of the connectors incase that was causing something. No joy.
So to summerize:
1. Factory Reset
2. Replaced Battery
3. Changed power leads
4. Cleaned device
5. Flashed to completely new firmware
I've completely run out of ideas on what it could be. Why would the phone operate absolutely fine under 85% power? Its just weird! I'd appreciate any help some one could provide me. I've not seen any one else with this problem on the internet. Please let me know what you guys think.
Thanks
Craig.

Kirbs82 said:
Regarding: Samsung Galaxy S3 Mini GT-I8190 - SIM unlocked version
Hello eveyone.
I'm having one of the strangest problems I've encountered with a phone before and I just can't seem to track down the problem. Please read this thread with an open mind as from what I can tell this is a unique issue that sounds like normal issues.
The main problem is that the phone keeps rebooting. From the get go this sounds like a normal issue with either the battery or power switch but here is the weird part...
It only happens when the phone is fully charged!
IBackground
I have had the phone since release and I have only ever used the stock rom that came with the phone. I don't really use phones much n general except for using it for calls texts and BBC news. I didn't even have a SD Card in it until after the problem started. Everything was running great, I never had any battery problems at all, and then a couple of weeks ago my phone contract expired with Orange and I decided that I would get a SIM only plan with EE.
While waiting for the SIM card to arrive in the post I charged my phone up one day and noticed that I had to power on the device. The phone seemed to power on fine, I could use all features of the phone, but when I turned the screen off for more then 5 or 6 seconds the phone would restart. There would give no indication that it had turned off or that it had powered off in anyway. It would simply just be blank, I'd press the power switch, and it would vibrate once and begin its start up procedure as if it had been turned off completely.
Here is where it gets weird, the phone will keep cycling on its own like this until the battery drains itself through constant reboots until about 85% juice, at which point it begins to operate functionally.
I heard that some people say they had problems with the power switch. I figured that if it was the power switch it then the problem would be consistant and would continue giving me problems when the battery was below 85%. I think I can rule out the power switch as faulty. Naturally I came to the conclusion it must be software, perhaps an APP installed which was incompatible. I tried all sorts of things, regardless I came to the conclusion it needed to be factory reset. Factory reset didn't do anything, still does it. My next thought was Firmware, it must be the firmware that was corrupt. I went through tutorials and rooted my phone, installed recovery software and ended up installing Cyanogenmod 11 (Which looks really beautiful btw, wish I had done that sooner) and buying an SD Card too do so. Still the problem persists! I read that some people had problems with swelling batteries, I replaced the battery completely just incase. £10 wasted, still does it.
At this point I'm starting to get confused. I started thinking perhaps it was the cable providing too much charge to the device, over charging somehow. Tried a different cable and a different power source. Still the poblem persists. I made sure there was no dirt in any of the connectors incase that was causing something. No joy.
So to summerize:
1. Factory Reset
2. Replaced Battery
3. Changed power leads
4. Cleaned device
5. Flashed to completely new firmware
I've completely run out of ideas on what it could be. Why would the phone operate absolutely fine under 85% power? Its just weird! I'd appreciate any help some one could provide me. I've not seen any one else with this problem on the internet. Please let me know what you guys think.
Thanks
Craig.
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No one? I guess this really is a tough one.

Sn0wdune said:
Sorry to hear about this man!
I am completely stumped on this one! You've basically done all the basic solutions but to no avail. I had a problem similar to this where my device would reboot randomly, whenever it wanted to and in my case, the solution was to buy a new battery and that actually worked. I've had the battery for almost 2/3 months now and it's still going strong.
Back to your problem, I honestly don't know of a solution. I really wish I could be of help but as I said, you've already tried the basic solutions.
Again, sorry to not be of much help!
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I think I have the same problem as you did. After suddenly dropping and rebooting, my battery level jumps back up when the phone starts, and again, and again. The phone is functioning normally only when plugged in. I also presume that it is a battery problem, but the fact that the battery level rises back after dropping, makes me wonder.
EDIT: Problem solved with buying a new battery.

Sorry to jump in, just curious, did you solved this? If you do, hope to hear your solution, might help others in future
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