Hi all
I am posting here in the slightest hope that someone can help me out. In a nutshell I have a T-Mobile MDA III PH20B that has ceased working
I have tried hard resets but still have no joy and wondered if someone could help?
First off, on the back of the MDA once the battery is removed it shows;
Model PH20B
IMEI 35303000.......
When it starts up, in the bottom right corner it shows;
NO GSM
D1.06.00 ENG
If I choose START > SETTINGS > DEVICE INFO I see the following on the different tabs;
VERSION
Rom Version: 1.06.00 ENG
Rom Date: 08/05/04
Radio version:
Protocol version:
ExtROM Version: 1.06.117 WWE
IDENTITY
Model No: PH20B
Platform PocketPC
IMEI: (and no number!!!)
Problem is, the phone will not work following me trying to upgrade the ExtRom from the T-Mobile website (http://www.tm-phonedownloads.com/download_manager_mda_3.html). It now keeps bombing out out with an error message saying;
ERROR 120: COUNTRY ID ERROR n-n-38-38-38
The ROM image that you are trying to use is not designed to work with your device. Please check the vender Website and download the correct ROM update.
This has never been tampered with, has never been unlocked and is now dead as a dodo. Can anyone please off any advice on how I can get it backup and running? I am lost (no pun intended) without my Bluetooth TomTom and phone.
When it connects to its cradle, my PC can still see it, so I am able to copy files to and from it. Thats about all I can do with it though
frostie
Well it seems like you MDAIII has a corupt system and thus you need to reflash it.
Best option for you is wiki.
Go to the link in my signature and see if you can find a original version that you can flash it with.
The No GMS means that the radio part is corupt.
The 1.06 means that you have a OLD version of the OS as we are now at 1.42.
The fact that you can still copy files just proves that the device can be seem but without a radio it is not much of a phone.
The country code error you can get arond by using the MaUpgradeUt_noID.ZIP application.
In all you will find out most of what you need of wiki.
Follow the link for the radio upgrade to solve the NO GSM
Follow the link for the 1.42 for the os
And BTW wellcome to xda-developers (its your first post)
Cheers for the welcome. Yup, first post so had to make sure that I included as much info as I possible could to show that I am atleast trying to help myself :lol:
Thanks for the pointers. I will work my way through them and let you know how I get on.
Very much appreciated.
Backup and running
You want to know what the problem was? I feel ashamed :lol:
When it says Bootloader Mode - I got that far, but then pressed the on/off switch to fire it up again. I didn't realise the upgrade happened when it was a dark screen with just Serial or USB on it.
Shame!
Anyway thanks for your help as its back up and running, and up to date with 1.42 and 1.15 I also thought 'sod it' and have managed to make it SIM free too
Again, many thanks.
Well 3 posts later and you now have 1.42 radio 1.15 and sim free, thats wiki for you.
Now cook your extened rom and get rid of all the operator crap.
Related
I'm new round here, but just received a T Mobile update. The file is MDA3_TMUK_v106160_SHIP0307.exe I've put it in the root of the ftp server, since wasn't allowed to put it in a more appropriate place. Hope that's OK.
BTW it does seem to have improved my audio quality, which was the reason I asked for it. It didn't come with release notes, so I don't know what else is included.
Strangely, although the updater worked, and as I say it has fixed my problem, when I look at device info it still shows ExtROM 1.06.117 WWE.
What have I misunderstood?
I think this is only an update to give Blackberry access.
Okay guys,
So you know the next question... can anybody extract the blackberry app so I can try it on my XDAiis as the other ones don't generate a PIN!
yes please, same for me. I would love to have the UK blackberry application.
thanks in advance for anybody who can remove the BB application out of this ROM update.
Ronald
T-Mobile UK Official Rom Update
I have just received this update as well.
Can one of the technical wizards on the site (such as MDAIII user) have a look at what is in the extended ROM, as well as Blackberry.
T-Mobile say that they have included a number of other patches for bluetooth etc. Could someone list exactly what has been changed over the base ROM.
After buying my device nearly 6 months ago and waiting this long whilst all my O2 and Imate cousins have had lots of upgrades to the radio and base rom, I am deeply unimpressed. :evil:
Thank you in advance for any assistance.
J
Same Here!
Hey all,
Well Jason, I feel exactly the same way. :roll: Been long waiting any updates and hopefully this update solves some of the following problems. Just doing a Full Backup, before update is applied! I will reply when installed with any updates to software revisions for bluetooth/rom/extended rom/etc.
*Such as Bluetooth dropping its connection from Weak to Good continuously when connected to me Jabra BT200.
*Another problem is that when firstly I soft reset the device it hangs whilst booting on the second T-Mobile screen, and have to soft reset the device 2/3 times rapidly before it boots properly. This can be a problem if its hung and you urgently need to make a phone call.
Anyone else having these problems?
Apart from that everything else seems to be in working order.
Sunny D
I downloaded the upgrade and ran it agaist the new tool.
This seems to be a 3 version of the encription as the tool will not open the file.
unless somebody posts the cabs ( In a subdir of the root of the ftp site) I can't look at them.
As per my above post shows I was just about to update my phone but no-one said it would lock my networks!.....I just didn't think of that!
Well I've just installed it and it has Locked the networks. It was unlocked to all networks, and not anymore.
Looks like I'll have to pay again to unlock it! Unless someone can help me unlock my MDA III!?!?
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Rom Version: 1.06.00 ENG (No change)
Rom Date: 08/05/04 (No change)
Radio Version: 1.00.00 (No change)
Protocol Version: 1337.30 (No change)
EXTROM Version: 1.06.160 ENG (Wasn't displayed before update on phone)
Bluetooth: Build 3500 (Was Build 1900)
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So overall probably just a Bluetooth Update/Blackberry support and Video MMS. Not a great update, probably not worth the update considering I can only use my T-Mobile Sim for now!!!
Well MDAIIIUser what cabs do ya need? I'll try!.....Copy them of my Phone or PC??....& need to know where to find them??
Sunny D
Did I understand what you wrote
you had a phone that was sim locked
you had it unlocked so that you can use any sim
you ran the above upgrade on your unlocked device
now you have a locked device and you can't use any sim that you like but have to use a t.mobile sim
Well that is what I understood
As for the cabs
They are in the extnded_rom folder that is hidden
you need to download the tool, check wiki for the link (if its still around)
Zip the file, and uploaded it
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=BA_ERK_Tools
ta
If you paid T-Mobile to unlock your MDA they should unlock it again for you without charge.
Anyone managed to get the Blackberry CAB out yet?
MDA III UK Upgrade Didn't relock my phone
I have tested out my phone after the upgrade and I am pleased to advise that it is still totally unlocked.
T-Mobile unlocked the original ROM for me for the £15 charge and the phone has stayed unlocked even after the upgrade (just as well!).
SunnyD - thank you for your work in helping to analyse what is new in the extended ROM.
Hi guys. Never posted before but been around.
Was once able to access the ftp but lately I get a permission denied message. Anyone got any advice on how to overcome this?
Found the ext rom 1.06.160 ENG on ftp site and linked it to wiki, Thanks sunnyd24.
Will cook it and post in wiki as well as update this thread.
The file you are looking for is:
htc_pocketpc_tmo_england_2.0.0.25-18.cab
The rest of the rom seems the same (looked at it for 30 secs)
Managed to access the ftp in the end. Was being stupid really... :?
Posted this ship.exe in wiki
Moved it from root to the correct folder
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=BA_Upgrades
Files to Examine......or Use!!
Hello all,
Not a problem Jason, we are all here to help each other. Well I just tried another sim (old O2 & Orange) after the success you had, & guess what It is unlocked!!!!
I've got a problem with a new O2 sim i'm using. Its new & was working in the phone before the update and kept sim card whilst the update. And now cannot use that sim in the phone for some reason!
Its wierd how an old O2 sim works fine but the new one has problems.
:?: Anyone got any ideas??
Well as for helping everyone with version info for MDAIIIUser I am going to upload the new extended rom files to the FTP Site (and attatched below as a Rar). Hope it helps everyone!
Well all for now,
Regards,
Sunny D
Passwords
Has anyone got the passwords for this old ones dont work
Passwords
Has anyone got the passwords for this old ones dont work
Sunnyd24
Both the ship and exteneded rom for the 1.06.160 have been posted in wiki (as per the posts that i wrote before) Think the only file you need to attach is the one for BB (as ...)
http://t-mobile.iris-global.com/files/BA_TMUK_14200_112_11300_Ship.exe
Seems to have appeared as the FINAL offical release from t-mobile for uk users.
I've not tried it yet but the number does seem to suggest it is a slightly lower version than the Dutch one
EDIT MDAIIIUser
Added to wiki
no surprises
build of 2003se identical to Dutch rom previously released:
version 4.21.1088 (build 15159.2.6.4)
Extended rom just hasth changed regional settings (english UK default)
Added to wiki
Still a lot of echo.
Can't pair my Motorola HS820, BA sees the HS820, but error on connecting.
Anyone a fix for the echo and for the BT problem?
Use 1.40 before, was less a problem compaired to 1.42
Please help.
Regards,
Max
Report Back - T-Mobile Rom.. One week or so on..
Hi All,
Wanted to feedback my impressions of the new 1.42 T-Mobile UK Spec Rom..
Well, it's been interesting.. I now have (or have had) most of the faults that everyone else is experiencing.. I never used to get them at all with the i-mate 1.40 Rom or the NL 1.42 T-Mobile Rom.. I have listed the bugs below..
1 - One Hard-reset when inserted into GPS Car holder
2 - Several occasions where I've "lost" the Storage Card (when serching for it on the device AND through Active Sync)
3 - Interesting situation where I've started TomTom5 and I've suddenly had to go through the set-up process again only to be told that there's no maps (Can only attribute this to an occasion where the Storage Card is not seen by the PPC - See above).. Solved by remove Programs, soft-reset then re-install off SD Card.. (quite annoying as I was lost at the time!)
4 - Occasional failure for BT Headset being recognised on an in-coming call (I use the Logi-Tech Pro).. Solved by Soft-reset..
5 - Sometimes, after soft-reset, get a low performance from the Device.. ie, after soft-reset and switching to phone where it takes a few seconds to "build" the phone screen..
Strange but as I mentioned above, I don't recall getting these bugs on the 1.42 NL Rom or the i-mate 1.40 Rom.. I might try a hard re-set on Monday then re-install my tomTom, etc to see if it carries on.. If it does, I MIGHT switch back to the either :shock:
That's it really.. I have had the early T-Mobile 1.06, the i-mate 1.40, T-Mobile NL 1.42 and T-Mobile GB 1.42 and finally the WM5 Roms and from what I've seen, I place them in this order of preference..
1 - i-Mate 1.40
2 - T-Mobile NL 1.42
3 - T-Mobile GB 1.42
4 - WM5
5 - T-Mobile GB 1.06
Hi,
Updated to the dutch ROM, is better then this UK ROM.
Version number is also newer.
Regards,
Max
dazed and confused
sorry if I'm being simple but ....
I though this was the last offical rom
http://www.iris-global.com/t_mobile_download/download_manager_mda_com.html
MA_TMUK_11300_128_11200_SHIP.exe
Rather than
http://t-mobile.iris-global.com/files/BA_TMUK_14200_112_11300_Ship.exe
How did you maanage to find the link?
What is the diference between the builds - How can I find a change log?
What is the BA / MA?
:?:
See here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=31360
No difference in UK and NL Rom..?
[email protected] said:
Hi,
Updated to the dutch ROM, is better then this UK ROM.
Version number is also newer.
Regards,
Max
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Hi Max,
The Rom is exactly the same and the only difference is the changes in the extROM that makes it either UK or NL Spec (ie, MMS settings, etc)
Hi Starfish - Perhaps you need to look at this for the answers to your other questions:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=BlueAngel_For_Beginners
Oh, and BA is "Blue Angel" and MA is the "Magician" HTC Names for the devices..
Sorry I did'nt read close enough Magican vs Blue angel
starfish_001 said:
Sorry I did'nt read close enough Magican vs Blue angel
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That's ok.. We all have to start somewhere.. 8)
Now, I'm not too sure how far advanced you are in Upgrading, etc but before you do, please remember the following that I put on another post on here..
MrPhilly said:
General Tips to you (and others)..
If you do want to update or upgrade then make sure you read everything through first.. Make sure you're happy in doing it.. Perhaps use the search function to read through others comments.. I would also recommend reading others comments about trying to downgrade from WM5 to WM2003SE to see what others have encountered
You will not believe the amount of people who end up posting questions when they've not followed the instructions from Wiki that I've pasted for you here..
Finally, if you are stuck, use the search command and describe your problem in the Keywords section, select Blue Angel from the Category and read through the posts relating to it before posting questions..
Hope this helps..?
Cheers!
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How can I upgrade to a stable rom
I have tried the TMobile NL and UK version both give the Country ID eror with the extra numbers 17-17-38-38-38
How can I safely upgrade to the 1.42 version (I have read the Getting Started With The Blue Angel) .
Is that the way to go?
"I get the password error on the xda3nbftool for the nbf segment"
I would like to get rid of all the phonesound failure and systemhangs with TomTom5.10
My Qtek9090
PH20B 0 B
WWE E
DANGA001
1.40.00 0 0
1.40.556
1.13.00 13.00
Upgraded to this from the last O2 update (my BA is an O2 Xda IIs), and while for the most part it works fine, now if the device turns the screen off for power-save while out and about, the GPRS connection drops. I know the hardware is capable of keeping the GPRS connection alive in such a situation because, well, it didn't drop it under the previous two O2 ROMs I ran.
Anyone else had this problem, or know a fix? Hopefully it's something simple that I've overlooked...
I'm getting better Bluetooth support with this (whether through actual improvements in the stack or through sheer dumb luck), so I'd prefer not to downgrade if I can avoid it.
Upgrade for NON OEM/Carrier Blue Angel
I have an unlocked OEM i-mate PDA2K. Because of this I am unable to install the T-Mobile upgrade to 1.42.
Is there a way to get around this?
I tried using the MaUpgradeUt_noID.exe, but I was unsuccessful.
Any ideas on how to upgrade a non-T-mobile branded blue angel?
Thanks
problems upgrading a non-t-mobile branded PD2K
BELOW IS THE SCREENSHOT OF THE ERROR
Did you make sure you had the MAUpdate file in the same directory as the actual upgrade had been uncompressed into? Since it's missing the RUU.DLL file that is part of that package.
Basically, get the files out of the real upgrade, then copy the MAUpdate into that directory, then run it instead.
I can not unzip or unpackaged the shipped OS
When I double click on the file, it runs the file, when you right-click and select extract, it gives you an error.
How do you unpackage the ship package?
Me, I used WinZip, I think it was.
Can not unrar or unzip setup files from exe package
the instructions states:
Unrar or unzip all files in exe or rar into a new folder. I get an error when I do that.
I also noticed that the instructions states:
First Method (Quick/Easy) (TYPE II), but there is another method Second Method (Slower/Harder) (TYPE I)
I am going to give that a try
O2 XDA IIs
Hi from Greece,
A friend bring me to Greece from Singapore one O2 XDA IIs but it has a old versions:
rom 1.31.00 wwe
rom date: 12/13/04
radio v:1.02.00
protocol version: 1337.32
ExtROM version: 1.31.920 wwe
sorry but I'm newbie here, can you tell me what (and where can i find) I must download in order to update to the latest versions.
I allready download the latest version from O2.UK for O2-XDA IIS but I do not want to lock my device to any network and that's the reason who asked you and I do not install this I allready download.
I allready see http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=BA_Upgrades but I don t now what I must download.
thk u
Hi recently aquired an XDA2s from a friend. However, the firmware has been modified. Would like to restore it back to the original firmware as the SDIO card is not functional. Used the Official ROM, but gave a Country ID error with my device and refused to upgrade.
Have done some homework read the instructions as shown on this link.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=228852.
However, i am stuck halfway. Here is my Devicetype.txt file description. Only managed to get the Devicetype as PH20B, Language ID = WWE. The rest of the info I can't really make out.
Also, when i use the file : xda2nbftool -t -x,
it gave a warning for ms_.nbf
The rest of the files such as nk.nba and radio.nbf were ignored. See pic.
How do i get the rest of the hex addresses for the radio and nk files ?
Could someone help to generate the final nbf files for me or help advise ?
The Official ROM file versions are here :
English ROM
ROM: 1.40.00 WWE
Date: 03/10/05
Radio: 1.12.00
Protocol: 1337.42
ExtROM: 1.40.923 WWE
MMS: 2.0.0.21
BT: 1.0.0 Build 3900
Can anyone help ?
More information on my existing XDA2s firmware :
ROM Version : 5.04.09.WWE
ROM Date : 11/02/06
Radio Version : 1.15.00
Protocol Version : 1337.45
ExtROM Version : (Left Blank)
Never really heard of ROM Version 5.04.09.WWE. And SDIO Card is not detected. Would like to downgrade to the official ROM as i suspect that the SDIO Drivers are not installed in the existing ROM.
Also, i tried using XDAtools\OSimagetool to copy another XDA2s firmware to this XDA2s. But it failed to write generating an error in the pic. Status of Activesync is connected.
mtnbikefreak said:
Hi recently aquired an XDA2s from a friend. However, the firmware has been modified. Would like to restore it back to the original firmware as the SDIO card is not functional. Used the Official ROM, but gave a Country ID error with my device and refused to upgrade.
Have done some homework read the instructions as shown on this link.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=228852.
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I'm afraid you have read the wrong homework. Those directions are for the Himalaya & Andes, not the angel.
What OS is on the phone now? That will help point to the correct directions needed to reflash the phone.
Flashing to 2003 from WM5 or 6 will vary depending on if the extended ROM has been resized, etc.
Check the angel getting started in the wiki (It's working now)
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=BA_GettingStarted
Oh ... thanks for pointing that out. To answer more questions :
It's running on a generic Windows mobile 5.0. I have a feeling that the Ext rom is already corrupted as the gsm portion of the phone is not functioning properly. I'll do a readup and revert my results. Thanks.
here's the thing. if you have a problem with the CID... all you have to do is find the exe file here named MAUpgradeUt_NoId.exe... use that instead of the exe provided in your Official Rom, i guess that would be WM2003se you are installing.
afaik, extrom havent have a thing to do with the GSM.
Thanks for the reply.
Thing now is that i am trying to downgrade from wm2005 to wm2003 (o2 official asian rom v1.42) But then looks like i am trying in vain.
Tried to do what is in the directions for wm2005->wm2003 by setting it to bootloader mode, doing a hardreset and using maupgrade_no_id with the official nk.nbf
But then it hangs while the check is being done. The xda2s screen shows v2.08 and serial. It changes to usb once the usb cable is plugged in.
Is there any other method i can do to downgrade it ?
Hi guys I have a new HTC Wing phone which has some issues with the GSM radio, I was going to update the radio for my device to solve the problem but I see that it requires an SPL/IPL version equal or higher than 4
Unfortunately, the IPL/SPL version numbers are not shown when I boot this device, is there any other way to find out
Here is the info I see on the device.
ROM version 4.10.531.3 WWE
Rom date: 03/15/07
Radio version: 02.83.90
Protocol version: 4.1.13.37
ExtROM version: 4.10.531.103
One other thing I have is that I have editied the registry to be able to see the band settings, however, the band information info is blank
Thanks in advance
Also a new Wing user (got it last week), and found out my IPL/SPL yesterday
You will see IPL/SPL info in bootloader
How you get into bootloader you ask?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=327046
Try the following links as well. Keep reading, as there's a "wealth" of information on this site. I don't claim I am an expert on Wing, but I've been "soaking" in this site the last few days, and I "think" I know what I want/need to do
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Herald
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=369397
Hope this help
From another new Wing fellow
hey pal, yeah today I figured out I would check with the bootloader option and I could see the IPL/SPL version, did the radio update to version 8.xxx which is supposed to be the one everybody is using but still can´t get signal inside my apartment, I dunno if it is a particular problem of this one I have or if it is a more general issue, maybe I will try a ROM update...
anyway, thanks again for the reply
Just flashed my wing to Open Touch 3.0 Biggy, which include a new radio: 03.07.90
If you hate TMo ROM, or wanna try something new, maybe you should look into it
I flashed it to Toich It V2 but nothing has changed regarding reception quality while a wizard I have has perfect reception, I will try to install a ruu rom image instead and see what happens, the rom i have now shows nothing under device information which is weird to say the least
Hello, I upgraded my Blue Angel (SX66) to WM6.1 last week. I wanted to upgrade the radio from 1.02 to 1.15 but I have not been able to. I keep getting Error 101 (disconnect).
The device information shows the following info about my device:
Operator version : WM6.1PPC Phone
ROM version: 6.141WWE HT4.20
ROM date: 09/18/08
Radio version: 1.02.00
Protoco; version: 1337.32
ExtROM version: Black Kernel
Model No: PH20B1
Also, the RUU mode on my device shows BlueAngel and by USB mode is v2.06. I checked the beginners' section on this site and tried every possible trick (bootloader mode, modifying the country, etc). So, far nothing has worked. I would appreciate some guidance on this matter. Thanks!
remember the folder that you use when you upgrade to the latest ROM? Copy that same older on a different location on your PC and then open it and just delete the nk.nbf file and replace it with the latest radio rom which is 1.15.00 for BA and then run the same process, make sure the activesync is not running and your BA is in bootloader mode. Hope this helps.
Still having problems updating radio on Blue Angel
Thanks for the reply. However, that is still not solving my problem. I getting ERROR 101. CONNECTION ERROR. I tried the BAupgradeut in Bootloader mode. and I get the same problem. I read about a utililty called ROMupdate11a.exe and tried it, but it is still not working.
I wish I would've realized how difficult this process is. I would've made an effort to buy a Blue Angel device w/ updated firmware.
PS: I have read the Blue Angel beginners' section and the wiki and tried (to the best of my ability) to try all the tricks listed there. This is why I hope someone out there has experienced and solved the same problems I have.
Thanks again. I will keep looking, and hoping for a solution.
have you tried MAupgrade_UTL??? Ok like this, try to revert back your BA's ROM to wm2003se first, then do the Radio upgrade and afterwards upgrade to the latest ROM
I think I know why I cannot upgrade radio
I suspect that my Blue Angel's BIOS is damaged. I used the GetDeviceData to find get exact ROM for my PH20B1 device (see attached). I used to get PH20B1 on the DeviceData.txt file. Now I get a lot of garbled characters in the section where the model # used to be. Also, when I go to Device Information (under the WM6 settings section), I see the same garbled characters where the Model No section is.
I also cannot find the Country section. This may also explain why my phone fails to recognize any ROMs (even those flagged as WWE --- from the USA). That is not good, I think.
My fear is that my device will not accept any ROM updates (or downgrades). Does the above make sense? If so, have I messed up my Blue Angel for good or is there still hope? Thanks.
Never mind, problem solved. Thanks!!!
Hello again. I just wanted to let you all know that my Blue Angel is OK (finally). A friend of mine, who also has an SX66 successfully applied the Radio 1.15 ROM upgrade (after he unlocked my device). I am all set now. Thanks for your assistance and guidance.