Hi,
I have a Qtek9090 which I upgraded yesterday to Helmi BA WM2k5 AKU2.6 Beta (v.1.1.2 Beta).
Everything went fine and I do like it (apart from the usual problems with WiFi, BT,...).
However I got into a shock-state when I turned it on this morning after leaving it in the craddle during the night for charging:
It would turn on, but the screen was completly f..ked up!!!
I did a Softreset -> screen still messed up
I did a Hardreset -> screen still messed up
I did reflash the upgrade -> screen still messed up
I took out the battery for half an hour and put it back -> still the same
After many resets and so on, suddenly I got the color stripes again and the phone booted normaly. I did not even loose any data.
Next I put it to charge again and after a while (the screen went off meanwhile), I turned it on and guess: scrambled screen again.
This time, I did the Reset this way: battery-notch off, kept the Softreset pressed and simultaneously put the battery-notch on again.
Is this a known problem (shouldn't be - I searched the forum!)?
Why does this happen?
Any ideas???
Also, I have these questions:
- What is this selection one has to do after the upgrade for (2. and 3. item YES)? What should the first item be: YES or NO? Can this be the cause for my problem?
- Would it be wise to downgrade again? (In case this is a defect -> so I can try to claim warranty, if things get worse...)
- What is the patch for energy management for? Where can I download it, as the link in the Wiki does not work? (Has this to do with my problem?)
Thanks,
vma
The problem remains.
It does not seem to depend on the charging, but happens when the device is turned off for some time.
When I turn it on it will either work fine, or funtion with a wild flickering screen.
Arrggghhhh!!!
Am I the only one with this problem?
Cheers,
vma
Hi,
Some month have passed on this issue. The reason I did not post about it, was because I had to send my BA for repair and one never knows if the "enemy" is listening... Now the warranty has expired anyway and mey BA is fully working.
It may have been a coincidence, but one day after the upgrade the screen went mad and totally messed up. Only 1 Hardreset in about 100 tries would bring it back to normal for some period of time and even reflashing it with WM5 or 2003SE would not make it work normal again.
The screen would get messed up suddenly for no particular reason, normally during a standby.
At the end I had to send it in for repair, which was actually a good thing, as I complained about the loose stylo and bad working hardkeys, all within warranty.
I got a new key-pcb, backside and they reflashed the device with 2003SE.
I am almost sure that I must have done something wrong with the upgrade to WM5.
Strangely I was able to flash 2003SE onto it, though it did still not work properly: hours with messed screen and sometimes out of the blue I would turn it on and the screen was OK again for a few hours.
Could it be a bad cable connection, which got repaired as well? Was it just a software problem?
One of the things I was in doubt with: when you enter this menu to format the device, the instructions say to switch two options, but the menu on my device had three options. Sorry - I do not exactly recall the details.
Anyone with an idea, why my device went mad?
As a side-note: while WM5 was great, while it worked during the one day it worked. I specially liked to be able to turn the device completly off or being able to remove the battery without loosing data.
However: not having my beloved BA fo two weeks made me reconsider doing experiments on it. Since I have it back I did not reconsider flashing it again.
But I would like to understand what had happend...
Cheers,
vma
May I assume from the lack of replies, that this was a pure coincidence on my device?
Nobody else experimented this weird problems after upgrading to WM5?
I am considering upgrading my phone again, essentially because I am tired of being afraid of discharging the battery and thus losing all data...
Cheers,
vma
I have upgraded my Tytn II with the WM6.1 rom from the HTC site.
Since then I've noticed a couple of hours after a soft reset the pie wheel indicating busy pops up every 5-10 sec. As far as I can tell there is nothing I have installed that should require it to be thinking.
The phone then behaves very sluggishly till I soft reset again.
I thought it was maybe activesync.
I downloaded "MemMaid" so I could see what might be going on and terminate activesync.
Still no joy.
Anyone else able to suggest anything for me to try?
Is your phone a tilt?
Do you have Spb Pocket Plus Installed?
Just wondering if you have Spb pocket plus installed? If so, the problem may very well be just that – Spb Pocket Plus. Change your settings. I think you navigate there by going to Start - Settings - System - Spb Pocket Plus. Under that, you will find the relevant setting(s) to change. Once there, disable the "Refresh icons in today plug-in-when storage card is inserted", under the advanced options. I think this may be causing your headaches. – SOFT RESET AFTER MAKING CHANGES and hopefully, the hourglass will be gone. I used this program once a few months back and the same thing happened to me. My fix was uninstalling the app, but that may not be an option for you.
~Gwen
P.S. Report back here and let me know if this works or not.
P.S.S. Also, try uninstalling those programs you mentioned before you had the issue, ONE BY ONE, followed by soft resets after each one and see if any of those may be the culprit.
Okay, so to those of us who have problems with screen ignoring/being very slow with screen taps and/or buttons, read on.
I flashed ROMeOS ROM and started having problems where I would tap on something, and it would ignore it. I would keep tapping and tapping, but nothing happened. Sometimes, even hardware buttons were ignored, about 40% of the clicks. I never had that problem with Dutty's Diamond ROM or WM6 ROMs. Issue seems to be related to latest 6.1 builds... or so it seemed at the time.
After pulling out half of my hair, reflashing all kinds of ROMs, reflashing to latest HardSPL, etc etc... I almost threw my kaiser at the wall.
First I thought it's TouchFLO, then I thought that it's the latest 6.1 ROMs.. then I thought it's related to 3.56 HardSPL.. well eliminating those factors one by one DID NOT fix the problem. Right now I went 100% to stock ROM (one it came with) and AT&T's original SPL. I started having sound problems (w/e radio I tried did not work) so I flashed Hyperdragon Wm6.1 ROM.
About 90% of the problem is phone ignoring ANY kind of touchscreen taps/drags.
About 10% of the time its the hardware buttons that have the problem - for example I push "call" (or any other softkey) button, and nothing happens, while touchscreen could be working fine at that time. In about 10 seconds, hardware buttons would start working again.
Some information that was gathered from this thread and personal research:
It looks like problem is NOT related to the following:
- POWER. Connecting phone to AC power does not solve the problem. Subjectively, it may improve it a little.
- BLUETOOTH/WIFI. Problem persists with EVERYTHING disabled and phone being in Airplane mode.
- PARTICULAR 6.1 ROM. I had this problem on ANY 6.1 ROM I tested (and I tested all the way from AT&T almost-official WM6.1).. maybe that's why they didn't release it?
- OPERA browser. Some people never had Opera and they still have this problem (please confirm this!).
- SPB/WISBAR interface software. Although having Wisbar stuff does make it a lot worse for me.. and I still have the problem without SPB or WISBAR installed.
- S2U2 screen lock. Still had the problem w/o S2U2 installed.
- iGo 2006 or iGo 8. Many users with this problem never used iGo.
Problem MAY be related to the following (needs more research, please help):
- Original SPL versus HARDSPL 3.XX
- WM6.0 versus WM6.1 (I don't think I had any problems running original AT&T 6.0 ROM, but I did have sound (radio) problems, so had to flash 6.1). Several users report that WM6.0 is immune to this problem.
- A combination of running WM6.1 with latest HardSPL?
- Custom ROM VS Original ROM. Perhaps problem is in the tweaks to the registry.
- Simple things like overtime connection weakening in touchscreen connection to the mainboard. Whoever can open a Kaiser could try to replug/clean it and report back to us.
- Radio version. Should be easy to test, just need to reflash all kinds of older radios and see if problem persists.
Please make sure that you test your phone with some touchscreen intensive games/software a lot for AT LEAST 3-4 days. I had it happen several times where it would be fine after reflash for about a day or so, and then it would come back in full force.
BRICK?
In my case, running HTC WM6.0 ROM with HTC SPL DID NOT fix the problem, I can even say it made it worse. Touchscreen would respond to about 10% of the screen taps. Tap pressure doesn't make any difference.
Also, running AT&T stock shipped ROM with stock shipped radio and SPL did not fix it. I guess at this point, nothing will. Waiting for replacement tilt.
Hope nobody else will get it as bad as I did. All I can say is... make those relfashes count.
Hmm isn't Touch Flo one of the cool things with the Kaiser??? How do you navigate in programs now it's disabeled?
DarkDvr said:
Okay, so to those of us who have problems with screen ignoring/being very slow with screen taps - I think I've found a fix. Here's a little background:
I flashed ROMeOS ROM and started having problems where I would tap on something, and it would ignore it. I would keep tapping and tapping, but nothing happened. Sometimes, even hardware buttons were ignored, about 40% of the clicks. I never had that problem with Dutty's Diamond ROM or WM6 ROMs. Issue seems to be related only to latest 6.1 builds.
After pulling out half of my hair, reflashing all kinds of ROMs, reflashing to latest HardSPL, etc etc... I almost threw my kaiser at the wall.
So if you have similar problems - try using Shnaps' Advanced Config to disable the TouchFLO altogether.
Another thing that I've used is PocketMechanic to clean up the notification queue. After fresh install of HypreDragon (latest as of Aug 5), I had 46 duplicate notifications. Removing those seemed to ease the problem, but NOT fix it. Disabling TouchFLO seemed to finally fix it.
I hope this helps somebody. I'll update this thread if I keep having this problem..
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Thanks for the head's up! I'll definately try that tomorrow (danish time).
Foxhunter123 said:
Hmm isn't Touch Flo one of the cool things with the Kaiser??? How do you navigate in programs now it's disabeled?
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Never really caled for it, I use my hardware buttons (D-pad) to scroll, I find TouchFLO to be too unreliable... maybe it's just me, but nothing beats a hardware button which you actually "PUSH".
spip72 said:
Thanks for the head's up! I'll definately try that tomorrow (danish time).
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Do you have the same problem?
Hello,
First off thak you for the post. Ive got two identical Tilts both with the exact same radio/boot/roms. One has this issue and the other doesnt. I will be disabling it on the one havong the issue and report back! Thanks much!!!
I was also having this problem. my biggest complaint was my keyboard was all over the place. Sometimes it wouldnt see key strokes at all, other times one key hit would register as 3 or 4.
Sent a few test messages and This seems to have helped.
THANK YOU!!!
My Kaiser was getting close to being flashed back to a WM6 rom or quite possibly embedded in a wall.
where do you find cab for touchflo? I was looking for that but could not find it.
tamkhanh said:
where do you find cab for touchflo? I was looking for that but could not find it.
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seek and you shall find.
It's all over the place.
Try playing around with the TouchFLO sensitivity options in KaiserTweak
i upgraded to official 6.1 about two weeks ago...
i recently started having the "missed taps" problem...
i have a feeling that KaiserTweak has something to do with the issue...if memory serves, i don't remember experiencing the issue BEFORE i played with the "TouchFLO->Sensitivity" and "TouchFLO->Finger Pressure" options...i just launched KaiserTweak right now and its showing those values as set to defaults where as i could've sworn i changed them to the advised settings a day or two ago approximately when i started experiencing the issue...just a point to clarify, i was only playing around for no particular reason and my taps were not problematic before
i've just changed them to the advised settings and did a soft reset to see if these are the kind of settings that are forgotten after a soft reset...but they stuck...so i'm gonna observe this for a couple of days with the advised settings effective and see if they have reverted to defaults on first sight of the issue...i'll report back here if that happens because that would be a pretty strong correlation...almost enough to prove cause and effect
Well, problem is, last time I've used KaiserTweak was like a year ago, so my touchscreen problems cannot be linked to KaiserTweak. I don't even have it on my tilt.
Also, it's definitelly not a touchscreen itself, since this problem is application-dependent. Once again, S2U2 and Opera are immune to this problem. Windows' build-in apps (file explorer, bottom bar, etc) all suffer from it.
I've noticed this too, but I've found a slightly longer tap seems to make things reliable for me.. Instead of a quick 'jab' if I sort of touch it, it seems to be better.
and keyboard too I've noticed.. I mostly notice it with the hard keys rather than the keyboard, but I don't use the keyboard a lot.
I'll try looking for duplicate notifications, what else will do that besides MemMaid? I might reinstall it, it was handy. I previously found phoneAlarm would grow notifications over time, I suppose I need to watch for that anyway.
khaytsus said:
I've noticed this too, but I've found a slightly longer tap seems to make things reliable for me.. Instead of a quick 'jab' if I sort of touch it, it seems to be better.
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True, if I keep pushing on the screen button, in about 5 seconds it will be clicked. But that's ridiculous, i gotta say.
I'll try looking for duplicate notifications, what else will do that besides MemMaid?
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I use PocketMechanic - good stuff. Has lots of useful functions, including notification queue cleanup and analysis.
Just had another "seizure" - touchscreen would not respond AT ALL for several minutes. No matter what or how I tap - complete ignore.
After couple of minutes it started working again.
Interesting that S2U2 worked fine. Seems that windows just chooses to ignore touchscreen input.
I'm forced to return to WM6.0 ROM...
Please, anybody look into this.. phone is becoming to be unusable - I can't even enter a phone number.
DarkDvr said:
Do you have the same problem?
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Yeah it's really bad here. I've tried all sorts of tricks, including:
Re-install 6.1
Re-install 6.1 with the recent radio update found on the e-club
Install SPL 3.56
Disable HTC today screen
Kaisertweaks - tweaks on and off
Disable radio completely (seems to help, but makes the device useless)
Disable activesync
Disable quickgps
For now, I've done 2 things that seems to help:
- Disable the HTC task manager - improves the responsiveness
- Kill the MSTLI.EXE process - improves on the number of freezes
But I still experience freezes, and it's really getting to me. I need a responsive device, not this c****
ASCIIker said:
i upgraded to official 6.1 about two weeks ago...
i recently started having the "missed taps" problem...
i have a feeling that KaiserTweak has something to do with the issue...if memory serves, i don't remember experiencing the issue BEFORE i played with the "TouchFLO->Sensitivity" and "TouchFLO->Finger Pressure" options...i just launched KaiserTweak right now and its showing those values as set to defaults where as i could've sworn i changed them to the advised settings a day or two ago approximately when i started experiencing the issue...just a point to clarify, i was only playing around for no particular reason and my taps were not problematic before
i've just changed them to the advised settings and did a soft reset to see if these are the kind of settings that are forgotten after a soft reset...but they stuck...so i'm gonna observe this for a couple of days with the advised settings effective and see if they have reverted to defaults on first sight of the issue...i'll report back here if that happens because that would be a pretty strong correlation...almost enough to prove cause and effect
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My device is currently without kaisertweaks, and I still have the freezing issues.
DarkDvr said:
Well, problem is, last time I've used KaiserTweak was like a year ago, so my touchscreen problems cannot be linked to KaiserTweak. I don't even have it on my tilt.
Also, it's definitelly not a touchscreen itself, since this problem is application-dependent. Once again, S2U2 and Opera are immune to this problem. Windows' build-in apps (file explorer, bottom bar, etc) all suffer from it.
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I concur, it is application specific. I tried to run the "Task manager" from Fdcsoft to see if it was related to a process eating up all the CPU. But the problem doesn't occur while the application is focused.
DarkDvr said:
Never really caled for it, I use my hardware buttons (D-pad) to scroll, I find TouchFLO to be too unreliable... maybe it's just me, but nothing beats a hardware button which you actually "PUSH".
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TouchFlo is way too unreliable to me too.
DarkDvr said:
True, if I keep pushing on the screen button, in about 5 seconds it will be clicked. But that's ridiculous, i gotta say.
I use PocketMechanic - good stuff. Has lots of useful functions, including notification queue cleanup and analysis.
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Oh wow, not a LONG PRESS, literally a 'touch' vs a 'tap'. What you describe would be seriously annoying.
Thanks for the suggestion, I'll look at it
Dear buds,
I've bought a TD2 with WinMO 6.5 lately. I had lots of bugs and fixed them all but one...
After some time from bootup (after 1 or 2 hours) the sound of phone goes off without a reason. No sound from speaker, headset or volume control buttons. However everything goes well instead sound. Phone vibrates when get call, notifications and alarms vibrate without sound etc. My only solution to get back the sounds is soft reset. After soft reset everything gets fine...
I think this is a sound driver issue but... If someone to help or show the way on forum please help (because I couldn't find same issue on search)
Thanks in advance.
If there aren't any other programs causing this by adjusting your volume levels, It may be a driver issue and you'll probably have to hard reset.
This is a common issue when flashing a new ROM without hard resetting after.
Dear Bruce,
Thanks for solution suggestion.
I hard reset three times until I bought the phone but nothing changed. I'm using the official shipped ROM and I didn't flash any other ROMs.
Extra programs list:
Klaxon
SKTools Lite
Garmin Mobile XT (Because my Copilot runs only after first installing then crashes forever)
Sportypal
Google Translator
Could that happen because of wrong flashing at factory or service etc.? I mean, this phone is a Vodafone version.
In Turkey, Vodafone signal often goes off and usually my phone gets stuck when the signal is off. Could this be the reason for unloading driver?
The digits of my phone are here:
ROM version: 2.16.468.4 (67041) WWE
ROM Date: 11.12.09
Radio Version:4.49.25.17
The fact that it works for a short while after soft reset perplexes me.
You have verified your volume is on when the sound turns off? (Sorry I have to ask this)
Any other programs running at the time is stops?
GPS software can conflict with system volume and backlight, so maybe make sure Garmin is set to dynamic settings.
Other than that, I really have no suggestions as a hard reset has not helped.
Perhaps hard reset, test for a while and see if it fails w/o any programs. Then install one prog at a time until you find the cause.
There is a slight possiblity that it was a bad flash and the driver is corrupt, which would mean reflashing the stock ROM.
Sorry I couldn't be of more assistance.
Dear Bruce
Sorry for very late answer for your last post
It's sure the phone volume is on
I've been examining the phone for one week and tried some possibilities and still no way for the bug
First I hard reseted again, then didn't install any other programs. After 6 hours, the same issue occured.
I uninstalled CoPilot (which I didn't use after hard reset) then soft reset and wait, just only some hours later, the sounds went off again.
After several soft resets, I decided to play music and monitor if it happens. Then BINGO! The sound went off just after poor GSM signal. When the phone lost the signal, it temporarily locked itself. After 2 or 3 issue, the phone sounds went off.
I think, phone starts a search after signal loss, then it tries to execute rest after 10 or 30 seconds either the signal comes back or not. After some trials it cannot reload sound .dll and sounds lock forever. But after soft reset, everything gets fine again.
To be sure about signal loss, I took the phone in flight mode for one day and wait for the same bug and the second BINGO came Phone didn't show the same bug.
After all, I reflashed the official ROM of TD2 and tried the same things but nothing changed. It's sure that the bug is not due to the wrong flashing the ROM.
For now, I'm sure that the bug occurs because of poor GSM signal of Vodafone in my region. So the question comes
Is there anything (such as a registry tweak or vice versa) to make the phone not to lock itself while loosing the signal and searching? Or do I have a way to increase the signal sensitivity?
Thanks for the worthful answers.
Regards