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Comment in config.txt in ext rom

Thanks for all the help. Just a few days ago I couldn't boild water and now I'm upgrading Radio Stacks and Cooking Ext ROM. Couldn't have done it without your help.
Looking forward to Radio 1.10, better bluetooth, and maybe one day WM2005.
In the mean time I'm working my way through config.txt deleting stuff I don't use. So far I'm just deleting the references in config.txt.
Is there a way to make a line a comment in config.txt? I would love to preserve the line I'm testing deleting so if I need it I can uncomment it. I have a good backup of the whole ext rom including config.txt
Thanks again
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Happy for you, looks like wiki -ays off if you read and follow it.
I had come across that but never wrote it down as never saw the need for it. I use the regedit to pipe to a differnt storage space and run the autorun out of that.
Fot your understanding it gives me the option of a empty rom after rom flashing. Then I install stand apps, folder a, patches, folder b, apps that need input, folder c. Then i run a dos script to creat all sub folders, mover the shortcuts, add the shortcuts to sd card.
This all jeans that i can flash my device and have it back to the way i want it in less than 2 hours.
Whole thing is in a thread that i posted something about auomate after upgrad (0n wifi and pda cant find link).
Anyway, back to topic.
Think its ; before statement.
Have fun

How to keep Storage clean and XDA fast

Free up storage:
-why
-how (simple)
-how (using utilities)
-how (advanced)
WHY
-The less files in storage, the faster your device
-Your storage is almost full and you want to install more
-summed up: your XDA is a mess and needs a good cleaning
-I believe the RAMdisk is faster than NAND ROM where storage is located
-Even the slowest SD card hardly shows any slowdown on most program starts
HOW simple
-Go to ActiveSync on your desktop PC
-Go to Tools>Add/remove software
-In Add/Remove Software uncheck "Install program into default installation folder"
-In the installed programs list uncheck a program
-Take a (mental) note of "Space available on device"
-Click OK
-Ask yourself if you really need it
-If so, check that program again
-Click OK
-Follow instructions on XDA, select \RAMdisk or \Storage Card as install path
-Check "Space available on device"
-Be happy
-Continue with the rest of the installed software in the same way
-Some programs refuse to follow your orders, most will move out of the way
HOW using utilities
There are two utilities that I know of that are able to transfer some of the files in your storage to RAMdisk or Storage Card, both commercial:
Wizcode Pocket Mechanic
SKTools
I'm not a fan of either of these. SKtools was only able to relocate 1.5MB of files that I could have easilly moved manually on a total mess that allowed much better results. Pocket Mechanic moved so much more that after a soft reset my today screen was as clean as a whisle, none of my today plugins loaded... OTOH both do have a lot of other neat tricks up their sleeves.
A neat little tool is System Path from http://www.geocities.co.jp/SiliconValley-Cupertino/2039/
Watch out, perhaps well documented but only in Japanese. Tips: unzip, place in \Windows, soft reset, find applet in Settings\system\system path. And never uncheck \Windows, just ADD seach paths.
There are lots of other nice tools on that page...
HOW advanced
-Copy files to their new location
-Edit their shortcuts
-Export all related registry keys, then edit them to the new path
-Rename the original files (I always add tmp to the extensions)
-Test if they work from the new locations
-If so, remove the original files
-If not, check if there are for example .cfg, .ini or other settings files you should edit
-Always use an editor for this that can handle both ASCII and Unicode!
-Have courage, luck and enough time
-Think first, blooper next...

Really appreciate your tips.
On your guide using AS to check the memory, do you mean by unchecking, the space available will change accordingly? I did not see that.
The problem is I don't install most programs on device storage but on SD card. Now cannot really decide where the programs are residing except by look at the "Program Files" in both Storage and SD Card to decide.
System Path is interesting. I will be trying it out.

Not just by unchecking, but by uninstalling programs that were first installed with default path on, then reinstalling with default path off. Of course if all your software is already on RAMdisk or Storage card to begin with, you won't notice a change because nothing changes. This thread is for people who 've used a lot of EXE installers with default path on, they run into lack of Storage and often have no idea how to solve it.

Disadvantage
A big disadvantage when you install your programs in ramdisk:
When your battery runs flat, you loose everything on the ramdisk. Ramdisk is only persistant when doing a hard reset and NOT by an empty battery.

mach2005 said:
A big disadvantage when you install your programs in ramdisk:
When your battery runs flat, you loose everything on the ramdisk. Ramdisk is only persistant when doing a hard reset and NOT by an empty battery.
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That sounds fair, RAM needs some power to keep its contents. But I've drained my main battery several times willingly for test purposes without loosing a single bit on RAMdisk. Obviously it needs just the backup battery. I never drained that. But I do keep a copy of my RAMdisk on my PC and advice all to follow that advice. MOBsync makes this even easier than ActiveSync.

Hi,
i cant seem to be able uncheck the box (its not available- blanked out) ..
Most of my softwares is installed in RAMDISK and storage card except for must be in storage utilies. Yet my storage space is almost full ... i cant account for it.
I am using activesync 4.5 build 5096

Where did you install the programs/applications from? Did you put .cab files in your /temp folder? If this is the case, with most if not all .cab files you can delete them after installing the program. They can take up a fair bit of room. Cheers.

mantd said:
i cant seem to be able uncheck the box (its not available- blanked out) ..
Most of my softwares is installed in RAMDISK and storage card except for must be in storage utilies. Yet my storage space is almost full ... i cant account for it.
I am using activesync 4.5 build 5096
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Did you expand your RAMdisk size? see http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=332215
Your activesync version should have no effect on the available storage.

Hi Maggy,
Yeah, i did.. I managed to recover 3mb + by deleting and reinstalling back some of my apps. Thanks for the tips.
I am using c_shekar WM6 AKU7.
This is my current memory config:-
Storage
Total 30.53 Mb,
In Use 26.08 Mb,
Free 4.45Mb
Programs
Total 61.28Mb,
In use 28.18,
Free 33.10
Is it normal for the storage to grow even when programs are installed in SD or Ramdisk ? Anyway to know which files were installed and where ? Then it would be easier to move it somewhere else
-mantd

All installed programs put some lines in registry, so that grows. Lots of programs create garbage in registry and often do not clean up after uninstall.
Programs that need dll's will place them in \windows, all installed programs create shortcuts (.lnk) in \windows\start menu\programs. All of this adds up to Storage In Use.
Most programs install either in \Program Files or \RAMdisk\Program Files or \Storage Card\Program Files. Often in their own subfolder. If not, then read their shortcuts to find them.
At initial installation most programs, especially those with PC exe install, will install in Storage even if you click RAMdisk or Storage Card. Today plugins have more or less valid reasons to do so, otherwise it's just plain stupid and annoying. Lots of cab installers have the same behaviour but cab's can be edited to change this behaviour (not all). By running PC exe installers without your device connected it will create a folder C:\Windows\Program Files\[app-to-install] which will most likely contain a cab...
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"There are two utilities that I know of that are able to transfer some of the files in your storage to RAMdisk or Storage Card, both commercial:
Wizcode Pocket Mechanic
SKTools"
Found that tiny tool:
MobileAppMover
It´s freeware.
First search - than search and overwrite.

The site from the developper of MobileAppMover
http://www.iaccarino.de/silvio/ppcstuff.htm
His description:
MobileAppMover is a tool for moving all references from a specific directory to another directory. It will search and replace a given path in the whole registry and in every shortcut. You can use this to move complete program installations from memory to storage card and vice versa. The files itself won't be moved by this tool.
For use at own risk only!
So it's not a tool for noobs who do not know the difference between a program and a Today plugin or who do not know how to move the appropriate files manually. Neither of the two commercial tools are able to move every today plugin, strange things will happen if you try to move them anyway with mobileappmover. Please be sure to have a Safe Mode boot utility installed before you try this at home.
In the worst case scenario you'll need to reflash your ROM.

IE Cache size ?
Hi,
When I changed the registry key to limit cache size avoiding low memory error in Pocket IE first it's ok but after I resetting the device all device settings and registry back to old settings , how can I solve this problem ?

You were modifying this key?:
HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Internet Settings\5.0\Cache\Content - CacheLimit?

yes it says 43018

each time I edited this when I reset the device this setting turns back

use schaps Advanced Config 3.0, its the best tweaking app htere is

schaps Advanced Config
ather90 said:
use schaps Advanced Config 3.0, its the best tweaking app htere is
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Yeah i used it too. Thats powerfull tool. See here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=317070

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Programs in ROM - vs. installing CAB's

I hope this is not too noob'ish a question:
What is the advantage of
1. installing (most of) your programs in a ROM,
vs.
2 having a rather clean/small ROM, and installing (a lot of) CABS afterwards?
I know 1. is a bit easier.
But is there any difference in performance?

I would say that you can't install anything into the ROM
That's why they use the ROM to fill it with the "cookers" special needs

The Advantage of Rom Installed Software:
You don't have to manually install it after a Hard Reset of Flash. Enough said on that, it saves you some time.
The Disadvantages of Rom Installed Software:
Uses Rom Memory for the original copy of files and Storage memory for anything that must be moved as part of initial setup. So anything that can't simply stay in Windows folder is duplicated elsewhere. For example if you prefer to have your programs in folders under the Program Files Folder then a program that uses 1mb will use 1mb of Rom memory and then when it is copied (remember you can't really delete Rom Files) it will use 1mb of Storage Memory also for a total of 2mb of used memory.
Can't uninstall original version when an upgraded version is avaliable. Sure the Rom file can be marked as deleted so they aren't listed in File Explorer anymore but they are rom files so you don't free-up any space.
More files in your Windows Folder. While the affect this has on our devices isn't 100% clear we do know that it slows opening the windows folder and I believe that it does cause a general slowdown in the device's overall functioning. This is why I prefer to have programs installed to their own folders.
The Advantages of Manually Installed Software:
Saves Rom Memory which increases Storage Memory. Basically since you have everything in Storage Memory you aren't paying extra for anything as nothing took any Rom Memory.
Can uninstall original version when an upgraded version is avaliable. Yes, since everything was installed into Storage Memory you can actually deleted the files to upgrade thus saving Memory.
Fewer files in your Windows Folder. While the affect this has on our devices isn't 100% clear we do know that it speeds-up opening the windows folder and I believe that it does affect the device's overall functioning. This is why I prefer to have programs installed to their own folders.
The Disadvantage of Manually Installed Software:
You have to manually install it after a Hard Reset of Flash. Enough said on that, it costs you some time. UC Compliant Roms can overcome this.

Well, as some cooks report: there seems to be an extra advantage of installing into ROM: everything seems to work a little smoother and faster. Don't know how or why exactly but has to do something with the after-installing process which makes the device less stabile.
Experiments have shown that of you take a full ROM vs. a lite ROM with the extra's from the full ROM installed afterwards, the full ROM is faster and more stabile.
Kyphur: I believe the second red and green titles are wrong? (I believe yoe mean Cab Installed Software?)

One of the reason that loading windows up with files slows everything down is because the are all paged & cached, depending on the settings. Once the device catches up, it's not as noticable.
Storage card Files cannot be paged like the cooked in files. That's why some programs will add .exe & .dll resources to \windows even though themajority of the files are indeed installed to the SD card.

GSLEON3 said:
Storage card Files cannot be paged like the cooked in files. That's why some programs will add .exe & .dll resources to \windows even though themajority of the files are indeed installed to the SD card.
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I don't install to my storage card anymore. Why would I do that when I start out with over 160mb of free Storage memory?

kyphur said:
I don't install to my storage card anymore. Why would I do that when I start out with over 160mb of free Storage memory?
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No, I don't either. But also with installing on the device there seems to be some (speed)difference in ROM installing and CAB-installing.

I'm with Kyphur on this one. The less I have in the ROM, the better because software is constantly changing, being upgraded, etc. Also, I find a lot of times my needs vary and I don't require so much "stuff" on my ROMs, so w/ the XDA-Live approach, I have the freedom to only install what I need. I guess it's a matter of preference really. Sure there are technical differences, both they are overcome either way, so it just comes down to what you like better.

pietrucci said:
Experiments have shown that of you take a full ROM vs. a lite ROM with the extra's from the full ROM installed afterwards, the full ROM is faster and more stabile.
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Ok ... thanks!
- Do you by any chance have a link to such a benchmark?
- Does that also go for ROMs you cook yourself (with Alex' Kitchen)?

How to actually mark as deleted files in ROM?
Hello, this is an interesting thread, and I also hope you guys know more on this, since you're explaining the concept (and I also searched for a solution, but sorry, didn't find, I might have not used the proper keywords for searching):
kyphur said:
Sure the Rom file can be marked as deleted so they aren't listed in File Explorer anymore but they are rom files so you don't free-up any space.
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So I flashed Dutty's Official WM6.1 5.2.19716 UC RTM (but which ROM it is, doesn't really matter) as my question is related to "deleting" (or at least marking as deleted) ROM files. My problem is, I want to delete \Windows\Long Send.lnk because I don't like the Comm Manager show up when holding the green Send key during a call, while I'm expecting the phone to go into speakerphone mode like used from many other phones (even my Sagem cordless at home behaves this way). The folks in this ROM's thread suggested to delete that shortcut file (which is what I think they know right if they hadn't omitted the fact that the file is in ROM), but none of the in ROM or read-only attributes can be changed with Total Commander, so I can't "delete" it. Now I understand it's supposed to be just marked as deleted as it is "in ROM", so it is supposed to survive a hard reset, but how can I mark it deleted for the time being (next ROM upgrade for example, or hard-reset)?.

pedefede said:
Ok ... thanks!
- Do you by any chance have a link to such a benchmark?
- Does that also go for ROMs you cook yourself (with Alex' Kitchen)?
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No I don't have a benchmark of this. But then again: the current benchmarks (SPB and VS Benchmark) aren't that reliable.
I remember one cook from the Hermes device (maybe it was Pandora) made a ultra-lite version with an option to autorun everything afterwards with cabs.
This ROM wasn't as fast and snappy as the original full ROM. I think he quitted developing the ROM further.
Don't know if it's always true that everything's worse installing with cabs, it was just something a remembered from the past.
(by the way: I also install a lot from cabs...)

ChaOConnor said:
I'm with Kyphur on this one. The less I have in the ROM, the better because software is constantly changing, being upgraded, etc. Also, I find a lot of times my needs vary and I don't require so much "stuff" on my ROMs, so w/ the XDA-Live approach, I have the freedom to only install what I need. I guess it's a matter of preference really. Sure there are technical differences, both they are overcome either way, so it just comes down to what you like better.
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the ROMs change too, and not slower than the softwares

calvinzhang said:
the ROMs change too, and not slower than the softwares
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But flashing every week a new ROM is not for everyone. The possibility to flash once in a while is cool and good enough for lots of people, but doesn't have to become the main occupation

Zoolooc said:
But flashing every week a new ROM is not for everyone. The possibility to flash once in a while is cool and good enough for lots of people, but doesn't have to become the main occupation
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That's what "UC" is for! Auto Install all of your apps. Just remember to keep the cab files updated.

For me, one of the biggest advantage of full rom is I save a lot of time in doing backup since the files in the rom already.
Another advantage of full rom is they don't need to store any files under \Windows\AppMgr since they can't be uninstall anyway.
To overcome the bad effects of full rom. I tend to consider the following when putting programs in my full rom.
1. File can be run under \Windows
2. Programs that don't change that often, or doesn't need the latest version.

Lite rom question / help

I am very fussy with my toys, and like to have what i need / use and not everything else that others have loaded, this is nice, but i dont end up using the programmes, so they annoy me as take up space
If i install a lite rom, with no prgrammes but a recent version, i take it i can then load the programmes i use / want and basically build my own device?
or is it easier to downloaded a kitchen and the programmes and make my own rom? i have currently got duttys 1.7, seemed to get high reviews, and looks good, but for me it doesnt feel right, some icons are not crisp, and i wont use, so thats annoying me.
then i have folders for apps and media etc, i loaded my programmes onto the mem card and after installing the new rom the proggies were still on the mem card (didnt know if would get wiped) so i copied the shortcuts to the programmes folder, but i cant copy to the indivual folders that they belong in.
where do i get the official programmes from if i want to build my own rom? like or the important / required stuff? or is that all included and the kitchen helps with adding extras?

its far easier to install a lite rom and then start adding your own applications. which, by the way, cannot be done by simply adding the shortcuts from the microSD to the Program Files directory. you need to have the .cab file for every program you want to install.
if you want to cook your own rom, you need to read about cooking and kitchen essentials. basically, you may find in there most programs you may want to include in your rom. also, there is a description on how to add other programs of your liking to the kitchen. there used to be a kitchen guide very good detailed around here, but cant seem to find it anymore.

i only added the shortcuts as i had originally installed my applications on to the storage card, so i guess all the nessassary files were there, and i was able to add a shortcut to the programmes folder for access from the start menu.
i think i`ll go with a light rom, and install programmes i want / need.
if that doesnt work, then i can try making one myself.
i am worried i will forget to install something important, will a lite rom include everything needed for the phone to work as it should? (all the touch functions, and camera, album, texts, signal, be able to play media files when install programmes for it etc)?

Noobie needs help! (energy rom tweaks)

Hello, i'm a complete noob who received the phone 2 days ago. On the day that I picked up the phone, I immediately installed the energy rom 3.0 by following the simple instructions. Almost everything on the energy rom (updated 6/12) was perfect except...
I have a few inquiries before I mess with my fuze (or possibly brick it):
1) How do I add newly downloaded applications (games) from my computer to my phone?
-Do I just drag it and place it anywhere on my HTC drive? (btw, I don't have a storage card yet, should i drag future applications in there?)
ex. I downloaded a game application off some mobility site which had like 12 files... Idk if I am supposed to drag them and drop it off in my HTC flash drive or in a folder.
2) When I add the application/games, how do I access them?
-Are they automatically placed into the game folder in the start menu?
3) How do I add new tweaks to my phone? Specific tweaking applications like some landscape adjustment, or keyboard or theme.
-How do I use those tweaks? If I d/led the landscape tweak, what is the first step that I do?
-Do I also just drag into my HTC flash drive?
4) How can I make JUST the energy rom clock transparent, it covers my today screen picture and it's very annoying.
5) Is there an application to adjust the start menu items with the 4 columns on the energy rom.
6) The phone seems a bit sluggish when I try to unlock it or slide across, is there a way that I can increase the speed?
-installing a micro sd card? somehow fix the internal applications and stuff?
Thank you, and sorry for posting this uber noob thread, I just don't know where to start to look for specific threads to answer these questions.

Welcome to XDA!
The easiest way to install any type of application or software is to find it in .cab format, a cab will install and put all the files where they need to go on its own. All you have to do is sync your phone and drag the cab into your phones memory or better yet an SD card once you get one, then go into file explorer and click the cab, it will ask you where to install it (phone or SD) and presto you are good to go! Some cabs may prompt you to reset phone after install, its best to do so! If you installed Energy 3.0 then I assume you also Hard Spl'ed your phone. Once your phone is Hard Spl'ed you would be hard pressed to "Brick" it with an application and if you mess it up in some way or it stops working right check the Wiki on how to Hard reset and that will wipe it back to the way it was right after a fresh flash! If you have any other questions feel free to PM me and I will help you in any way I can!

thank you very much kind sir, i will figure out which cabs i need to download and then proceed until i have further trouble. thanks a lot for the cab info !