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Question on using the extended ROM properly

I'm just starting to get into the depths of my PDA2K and this site is GREAT!!!!!!! Since I'm just one step up from "The Village Idiot", I have a couple questions for all you pros.
After reading about using the extended ROM, and unlocking it and seeing what's in there, I think I've figured it out. Whatever CABs are listed in the config file will be installed upon a hard reset....correct? If true, and since I have only 3.5MB left in Ex ROM, can I put the other CABs I wanted installed in say /storage/CABs, list them in the config file and upon a hard reset they will be installed? Is there any reason to put them into Extended ROM rather than Storage? Is it alright to put CABs in from like games, Resco Explorer, WebIS Mail, etc.? Lastly is there a way to set the programs up where I don't have to go back and enter all the registration numbers again?
Thanks a ton for your help!!!
Tom

In extended rom they are not taking up your precious storage space on the device.

cruisin-thru said:
In extended rom they are not taking up your precious storage space on the device.
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is it possible then to keep the installation cabs on storage card,
and also, can that path be set in the config file in ext rom?
what happens if a particular cab is not found after hard reset?
is the installation stuck or it just gives a warning and keeps on going to the next cab listed in the list.

Have a read of this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?p=83119#83119
It might be a bit to deep but should help you along the way.
1) You can keep a cab anywere you want
2) make sure your cab is read only as it can delete itsself after install.
3) to run a auto install from a differnet storage place you need to hack the reg (see thread).
In all if you have a sd card you could leave your EXt rom empty.
Hack the reg to the new postion and run the Autorun from there.
Have fun

Thanks for all the infor everyone! From what I've read in other threads I need to make sure that TPdisabled is set to off so that when programs like WebIS Mail and SplashID get installed I can touch the screen to make sure they install into the right place and other things. Correct? If this is correct, should I just remove TPdisabled all together?
Thanks again,
Tom

TPdisabled can't be set off, its either run or not run. So dump it and you wont have a problem

MDAIIIUser - Thanks for the link! I looked at it and you're right, it's pretty indepth and I'll have to read it more closely at a later time....like at work.
Question1: leochan2005 had a follow-up saying "why not use backup"? While I agree this would be easier, I'm assuming that by using your method one would get a much "cleaner" install than backing up all the crap that was on the system prior to the hard reset...correct?
Question2: It took me a long time to get my TMo settings setup on my PDA2K and I don't want to go thru that again. Is there a way to backup those settings so that they can be auto-configured at a later time? I read about making a personalsettings.CAB but haven't done it yet.
Thanks,
Tom

MDAIIIUser said:
TPdisabled can't be set off, its either run or not run. So dump it and you wont have a problem
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Thanks! I take it it should be at the beginning of the config file so that I can access it. Correct?

q1)
Well the short of "why not use backup" is you can if you feel that:
1) Restoring Regedit values from a lower rom version
2) Restoring system applications form a lower rom version such as BT
are called for, wanted or even needed.
I fail to see that point as a upgrade is an upgrade and a backup is a backup. Now you could do a restore of your system data also (which you could also sync and that would be clean
Q2)
Most fo those settings are part of T-mobile.cabs found in Extrom, the rest would have been reg entries that you are going to have to hunt for and copy.
So sorry no way around reading the other thread (personalsettings.CAB)

MDAIIIUser - Maybe I should state what I'm trying to accomplish and you could give me a clue as to how to do it. A couple days ago I upgraded by BT on my PDA2K (generic from Expansys) to 1.0.0.3900 (or what ever the latest is) and I'm currently looking at upgrading my radio to 1.12, but that would require a hard reset. I'm not in the mood to go thru all the program installs and SMS/MMS tweaking again, so I'm trying to figure out the best way to get all my programs and configurations back after the hard reset. I thought by incorporating the personalsettings.cab (for my Tmo settings) and your method I would be up and running pretty quickly. Yes? I have Sprite Backup, but I'm not sure if that's going to overwrite anything after the radio upgrade????
Thoughts?
Thanks!

Well my logic (that could be wrong) would say that a restore of your backup would get you to were you are now.
That you would need a restore as you have to do a hard reset after the 1.12 radion install.
But I can't answer the question will the radio be restored as well,
I don't know, I don't know the settings in the backup application, so am sorry I will have to let somebody else answer this one.

Question about mod the rom ,language etc

After reading almost all the posts here and I decide to create my own WM5 rom based on the latest Helmi release. several thing that I want to do
1. Increase the pagefile to 8mb with the instruction in the post here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=61926
2. Install language pack "french" , however, I do not know how to do this, I unzipped the "Helmi_WM2k5_AKU3.2_32mb_v1.3.1", however I cannot find where I can put the language related stuff. Anyone knows how to do this?
3. This maybe a silly question. Most of my games and programs in 2003se are green(meaning do not need installation), do you think it makes any sense to put into the rom? or if I change the question a little bit, can the rom copy the files automatically to the SD card and create shortcut to it?

In the case of 3), do what I do...on my SD card I have a directory called "programs". Within here I keep a "cabs" directory for installers and a "manual" directory for apps that don't need installed. All you need to do is make the shortcuts to your storage card inside the Start Menu.
Also, a useful tweak I've heard of but don't do myself is to keep a folder with these shortcuts on the sdcard in /Storage Card/Shortcuts. Then create a shortcut to this folder in the Start Menu. You now have a customisable shortcut list representing what is currently in the SD card slot. Handy if you have several cards and switch between them.

I think you misunderstood me.
I know how to do that when I installed the WM5, I was talking about bundle all that to the Rom before upgrade to WM5

I think understand what you mean. I'm just saying that it's not really worth it for the really simple apps. You'd spend more time cooking roms than you would making shortcuts in Total Commander. Plus, I think you'd need to take some of the existing stuff out as Helmi undoubtably stuffs the rom full with all that he can fit in.
But if you have the time it's probably worth it just to have a play around & learn some new tricks in the process.

In need of help

I have just got a 8925 but i want to add some roms to it: ultimate launch, pocket cm, ifonz, & iphone interface. I am not sure of the best way to do this. Should they be added all at the same time, or do i have to add them one by one? Also i am not sure how to unlock the phone so that I can add these apps to the device. I have searched the forums and I haven't found a tutorial for this.
Any ideas?

If you want to be really sure you won't get any problems, soft reset after every installation. This IS overkill, since apps that need a soft reset will ask for one, but it won't hurt you.
Install Kaisertweak first:
http://www.jongma.org/KaiserTweak/KaiserTweak.zip
Extract the zip to your phone and run the extracted .exe from your phone. One of the options found under "Security": "Not-certified Warning". Disable the warning and exit the program (hope you meant this by 'unlocking'). The nag you used to get will be gone.
Good luck!

I think you may mean you want to add some applications and not ROMs? You don't need to unlock your phoine to install applications on them. If you want to flash a different ROM, then you will have to use HardSPL and flash the ROM
Here's pocket CM:
http://www.pocketcm.com/contact.php
Ultimate Launcher:
http://www.ultimatelaunch.de/
As for the Iphone interface, there are plenty of icons floating around, and on the the 'post your today screen' thread on the Kaiser general section, there are massess of info from users on how to achieve an Iphone look to their Kaiser and has links to Iphone Icons
HTC Home customiser is the simplest programme I know where you can input iphone icons and themes to your phone
http://www.pocketemu.com/download4.html

Do i need to hardspl my device to add rom's or can i just softspl?

I suspect you haven't quite understood some basics.
ROM = like Windows. There are 'shipped' ROMs (factory/default/shipped ROMs) and custom ROMs (Dutty/Alex/.../homemade ROMs). You always have 1 ROM 'installed' on your device; otherwise your device wouldn't function (just like a PC without Windows)
CAB = applications. Ultimate Launch, PocketCM, iFonz, & iPhone interface are apps. On PC you need to execute an .exe file (mostly setup.exe) to install an applications. PocketPC's don't work with .exe installers, they work with .cab installers.
Given your posts, I think you only want to install some applications. That means installing .cab files. No need for any ****SPL here.
If you really are already thinking of replacing your shipped ROM, than you WILL NEED HardSPL. But given your explanation I don't think you were planning on doing that.
Hope this clears some things up.
Good luck and welcome...

Can you have more than one rom on a device and just switch back and forth whenever you want to use one or the other?

student174 said:
Can you have more than one rom on a device and just switch back and forth whenever you want to use one or the other?
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Nope and why do you want to switch ROMs?

Dr. Strangelove said:
I suspect you haven't quite understood some basics.
ROM = like Windows. There are 'shipped' ROMs (factory/default/shipped ROMs) and custom ROMs (Dutty/Alex/.../homemade ROMs). You always have 1 ROM 'installed' on your device; otherwise your device wouldn't function (just like a PC without Windows)
CAB = applications. Ultimate Launch, PocketCM, iFonz, & iPhone interface are apps. On PC you need to execute an .exe file (mostly setup.exe) to install an applications. PocketPC's don't work with .exe installers, they work with .cab installers.
Given your posts, I think you only want to install some applications. That means installing .cab files. No need for any ****SPL here.
If you really are already thinking of replacing your shipped ROM, than you WILL NEED HardSPL. But given your explanation I don't think you were planning on doing that.
Hope this clears some things up.
Good luck and welcome...
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Thats a good straight to the point summary

Lite rom question / help

I am very fussy with my toys, and like to have what i need / use and not everything else that others have loaded, this is nice, but i dont end up using the programmes, so they annoy me as take up space
If i install a lite rom, with no prgrammes but a recent version, i take it i can then load the programmes i use / want and basically build my own device?
or is it easier to downloaded a kitchen and the programmes and make my own rom? i have currently got duttys 1.7, seemed to get high reviews, and looks good, but for me it doesnt feel right, some icons are not crisp, and i wont use, so thats annoying me.
then i have folders for apps and media etc, i loaded my programmes onto the mem card and after installing the new rom the proggies were still on the mem card (didnt know if would get wiped) so i copied the shortcuts to the programmes folder, but i cant copy to the indivual folders that they belong in.
where do i get the official programmes from if i want to build my own rom? like or the important / required stuff? or is that all included and the kitchen helps with adding extras?

its far easier to install a lite rom and then start adding your own applications. which, by the way, cannot be done by simply adding the shortcuts from the microSD to the Program Files directory. you need to have the .cab file for every program you want to install.
if you want to cook your own rom, you need to read about cooking and kitchen essentials. basically, you may find in there most programs you may want to include in your rom. also, there is a description on how to add other programs of your liking to the kitchen. there used to be a kitchen guide very good detailed around here, but cant seem to find it anymore.

i only added the shortcuts as i had originally installed my applications on to the storage card, so i guess all the nessassary files were there, and i was able to add a shortcut to the programmes folder for access from the start menu.
i think i`ll go with a light rom, and install programmes i want / need.
if that doesnt work, then i can try making one myself.
i am worried i will forget to install something important, will a lite rom include everything needed for the phone to work as it should? (all the touch functions, and camera, album, texts, signal, be able to play media files when install programmes for it etc)?

Significantly increases the performance of your X2

Are you having problem with your CAB files or you need more speed and stability, then use Extendir to prepare your cab files.
Extendir is a file system filter driver that significantly increases the performance of your phone, in specific situations even up to 12 times as fast and faster…
With the help of Extendir 98% of my old and new files now work perfectly on my X2 without any heavy battery usage.
the link here :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=530710
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See my screen shots for Ram and memory information on my X2
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*wonders how he installed this*

which file did you download and install?

Where do you need help?
indycar said:
*wonders how he installed this*
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GottaStayFly said:
which file did you download and install?
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Which application? Please let me know what you really need to know. I have three difference threads in the post.

extendir what else we talkin bout here

indycar said:
extendir what else we talkin bout here
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The post is for three different threads as stated before, I used all the three threads together to product the result you see in my first post.
Answer to your question, check my attached file.
The software is really simple to use, download the file, unzip it and run Extendir Cabs.

and whats with extendir.dll which is actually doin the changes not the
extendir cabs which only makes cab files

indycar said:
and whats with extendir.dll which is actually doin the changes not the
extendir cabs which only makes cab files
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Yes that is what I'm asking you to do just re-cab your Cab files with Extendir Cabs, Install your files as usual and just relax and see how your phone will perform. But if you want to go all the way, you can read the post about Extendir all cache and Preset Installer
And you still have questions just post in the thread and ShaDrac can personally help you.http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=530710
But from your questions, is like you are doubting the software???

kaybest said:
But from your questions, is like you are doubting the software???
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not doubting i just did hard reset two weeks ago and my x2 aint that bad atm i just dont want to screw it so id have to reinstall all the trash i need

Okay, so if i use Extendir on my Manila cabs, it should make sense work faster on the x2?

OK ... I used the Extender ... and here is what I did (and is it simple):
1. moved all of the cabs that I wanted to "extend" into a directory -- on my PC
2. ran "extendir cabs" and pointed it to the directory mentioned in #1
3. It generated a single cab with all of the cabs that I had moved into a single cab called the "directory name.cab" that was in #1
4. I copied the cab to my phone and installed it ...
That was it ... and it seems to work ... but I don't have any results that I can report ... only did it to day, and it is too early to say what it is doing -- but it seems to have better battery response ... note that one of the cabs that I "extended" was SPB 8 Mobile Shell. After the install, all of the programs worked and the install did not take very long ... shorter then installing the programs the first time ...
Now the questions ...
1. When the extender cab installs, it asks where to install the extender cab ... and I selected the storage card -- which I found strange since SPB 8 is normally installed in the device and not on the card ... It seems to work -- but should that have been installed on the device?
2. there only seems to be a single choice for the location of the install -- when I did it the first time, I installed in on the device, and it took up memory in the device when I hade "extended" cabs that were both formally in the device and on the storage card. I then addnd more programs into the directory for the cabs, and rans extendir cabs again and it created another file (called the directory name -- note that this cab is located in the same directory that the extendir cabs.exe file is located). When I copied it to my phone and installed it, it said that I had to uninstall the previous version of the extended cab -- which I did. (Note that I also tried to rename the cab to another name before installing it, and it still asked about uninstalling the previous version.) I am not sure if it is possible to use it for device located cabs and storage located cabs -- is that possible?
Well that is my experience with extender and how it is used ...

GottaStayFly said:
Okay, so if i use Extendir on my Manila cabs, it should make sense work faster on the x2?
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Yes It will help, please let us know your outcome. Maybe some people that don't use Manila because of battery and Memory issues, can try Manila too.
RJH57108 said:
OK ... I used the Extender ... and here is what I did (and is it simple)
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A thousand thanks for trying this tool, this tool is basically for Rom developer to use and cook applications into their Rom, back then people discovered using it to re-cabs our Cab files make them faster and less battery consuming.
Answer to your Questions : You just have to group your Cab files into two groups. First group for cabs that will be install into Phone memory, Second group for cabs in memory card.
Or you can re-cab your files separately.
Tips for better battery and more speed : You may know this, but for those that don't know.
* Install applications that runs regularly, runs in background or programs you use frequently into phone memory.
eg : Manila
* Install applications that don't runs in background, you don't use regularly or very large applications in Memory card.
eg : games

Hmm.. im not sure if im doing it wrong but what i did was use the program on the manila cabs and the other stuff, but when i restarted my x2 manila didn't bother to start up unless i install the non-extendir cab im not sure what im doing.

Here is what I noticed over the last few days ...
There is a significant speed increase in browsing (I use Iris -- gave up on the IE since I was getting warnings about using IE6 based browser and Microsoft does not appear -- at least i could not find one -- to have an upgrade) speed and also Bing is faster ...
SPB 8 is also faster ...
There might be an increase in battery life, but I am still evaluating that part of it ...

I will have to give this a try. Thanks for the heads up

will the droid pro+3.0 really work in xperia x2? haha..=)
i m newbie...