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Question on using the extended ROM properly

I'm just starting to get into the depths of my PDA2K and this site is GREAT!!!!!!! Since I'm just one step up from "The Village Idiot", I have a couple questions for all you pros.
After reading about using the extended ROM, and unlocking it and seeing what's in there, I think I've figured it out. Whatever CABs are listed in the config file will be installed upon a hard reset....correct? If true, and since I have only 3.5MB left in Ex ROM, can I put the other CABs I wanted installed in say /storage/CABs, list them in the config file and upon a hard reset they will be installed? Is there any reason to put them into Extended ROM rather than Storage? Is it alright to put CABs in from like games, Resco Explorer, WebIS Mail, etc.? Lastly is there a way to set the programs up where I don't have to go back and enter all the registration numbers again?
Thanks a ton for your help!!!
Tom

In extended rom they are not taking up your precious storage space on the device.

cruisin-thru said:
In extended rom they are not taking up your precious storage space on the device.
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is it possible then to keep the installation cabs on storage card,
and also, can that path be set in the config file in ext rom?
what happens if a particular cab is not found after hard reset?
is the installation stuck or it just gives a warning and keeps on going to the next cab listed in the list.

Have a read of this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?p=83119#83119
It might be a bit to deep but should help you along the way.
1) You can keep a cab anywere you want
2) make sure your cab is read only as it can delete itsself after install.
3) to run a auto install from a differnet storage place you need to hack the reg (see thread).
In all if you have a sd card you could leave your EXt rom empty.
Hack the reg to the new postion and run the Autorun from there.
Have fun

Thanks for all the infor everyone! From what I've read in other threads I need to make sure that TPdisabled is set to off so that when programs like WebIS Mail and SplashID get installed I can touch the screen to make sure they install into the right place and other things. Correct? If this is correct, should I just remove TPdisabled all together?
Thanks again,
Tom

TPdisabled can't be set off, its either run or not run. So dump it and you wont have a problem

MDAIIIUser - Thanks for the link! I looked at it and you're right, it's pretty indepth and I'll have to read it more closely at a later time....like at work.
Question1: leochan2005 had a follow-up saying "why not use backup"? While I agree this would be easier, I'm assuming that by using your method one would get a much "cleaner" install than backing up all the crap that was on the system prior to the hard reset...correct?
Question2: It took me a long time to get my TMo settings setup on my PDA2K and I don't want to go thru that again. Is there a way to backup those settings so that they can be auto-configured at a later time? I read about making a personalsettings.CAB but haven't done it yet.
Thanks,
Tom

MDAIIIUser said:
TPdisabled can't be set off, its either run or not run. So dump it and you wont have a problem
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Thanks! I take it it should be at the beginning of the config file so that I can access it. Correct?

q1)
Well the short of "why not use backup" is you can if you feel that:
1) Restoring Regedit values from a lower rom version
2) Restoring system applications form a lower rom version such as BT
are called for, wanted or even needed.
I fail to see that point as a upgrade is an upgrade and a backup is a backup. Now you could do a restore of your system data also (which you could also sync and that would be clean
Q2)
Most fo those settings are part of T-mobile.cabs found in Extrom, the rest would have been reg entries that you are going to have to hunt for and copy.
So sorry no way around reading the other thread (personalsettings.CAB)

MDAIIIUser - Maybe I should state what I'm trying to accomplish and you could give me a clue as to how to do it. A couple days ago I upgraded by BT on my PDA2K (generic from Expansys) to 1.0.0.3900 (or what ever the latest is) and I'm currently looking at upgrading my radio to 1.12, but that would require a hard reset. I'm not in the mood to go thru all the program installs and SMS/MMS tweaking again, so I'm trying to figure out the best way to get all my programs and configurations back after the hard reset. I thought by incorporating the personalsettings.cab (for my Tmo settings) and your method I would be up and running pretty quickly. Yes? I have Sprite Backup, but I'm not sure if that's going to overwrite anything after the radio upgrade????
Thoughts?
Thanks!

Well my logic (that could be wrong) would say that a restore of your backup would get you to were you are now.
That you would need a restore as you have to do a hard reset after the 1.12 radion install.
But I can't answer the question will the radio be restored as well,
I don't know, I don't know the settings in the backup application, so am sorry I will have to let somebody else answer this one.

how to build custom extended ROM?

I've been debating trying my hand at cooking up my own ROM sometime here soon since I've not been entirely happy with the precooked ones. You know what they say, if you want something done right you just gotta do it yourself. ;-)
Anyways, I was thinking that I would probably like to install more software than I can put in just the ROM itself. I know I can do this through the extended ROM but I don't have the first clue where to begin and there doesn't seem to be any sort of tutorials floating around on the subject (or, indeed, of cooking in general). So how DO you create an extended ROM and add programs through it?

Avatar28 said:
I've been debating trying my hand at cooking up my own ROM sometime here soon since I've not been entirely happy with the precooked ones. You know what they say, if you want something done right you just gotta do it yourself. ;-)
Anyways, I was thinking that I would probably like to install more software than I can put in just the ROM itself. I know I can do this through the extended ROM but I don't have the first clue where to begin and there doesn't seem to be any sort of tutorials floating around on the subject (or, indeed, of cooking in general). So how DO you create an extended ROM and add programs through it?
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There's a great kitchen that i got from the forum. I can't upload it right now, but hopefully someone has some bandwidth to get a link. Search for Wizard extended rom kitchen. I believe Faria put it together. Check out the .pdf it contains for instructions.
Basically, you'll use a tool called Winimage to "inject" files into a file called ext-rom-base.nb. In the image is a text file that tells the installer what to run.
Each file must be selected as "read only" after injecting, or it won't work.
Injecting is basically dragging and dropping cabs or exe's into the file, nothing fancy. Note that each file type is called differently, so watch out for that one.
Also - the cabs cannot require operator intervention - or the installer will hang. Make sure they run and tell you that they're done.
Then when you run nb2nbf_wizard, you can check Ext_rom, browse to the file ext-rom-base.nb, image name is Extension_ROM, and address is 9B000000.
You can create the nb.nbk to include just the extended rom, just the OS, just the Splash screens, or any combination you want.
A bit intimidating at first - but actually very easy. I never messed up my phone once working with the extended rom on the Wizard. I broke my Hermes twice already, and still can't figure it out

ftp://xda:[email protected]/Wizard/Extended_Roms/Extended_ROM_Kitchen/
Enjoy.
Post also moved to wizard upgrading.

hi guys,
I had problem when cooking ext rom. I got ''htc-wizard-ext-rom-maker-kit" by faria from ftp. I did exactly all the steps in faria pdf guide, but after hard reset it didn't work. I don't know why? Anyone help me pls.
My device:
IPL/ISL: 3.08
Radio: 2.19.11
ROM: TNT 3 Pro

Noobie needs help! (energy rom tweaks)

Hello, i'm a complete noob who received the phone 2 days ago. On the day that I picked up the phone, I immediately installed the energy rom 3.0 by following the simple instructions. Almost everything on the energy rom (updated 6/12) was perfect except...
I have a few inquiries before I mess with my fuze (or possibly brick it):
1) How do I add newly downloaded applications (games) from my computer to my phone?
-Do I just drag it and place it anywhere on my HTC drive? (btw, I don't have a storage card yet, should i drag future applications in there?)
ex. I downloaded a game application off some mobility site which had like 12 files... Idk if I am supposed to drag them and drop it off in my HTC flash drive or in a folder.
2) When I add the application/games, how do I access them?
-Are they automatically placed into the game folder in the start menu?
3) How do I add new tweaks to my phone? Specific tweaking applications like some landscape adjustment, or keyboard or theme.
-How do I use those tweaks? If I d/led the landscape tweak, what is the first step that I do?
-Do I also just drag into my HTC flash drive?
4) How can I make JUST the energy rom clock transparent, it covers my today screen picture and it's very annoying.
5) Is there an application to adjust the start menu items with the 4 columns on the energy rom.
6) The phone seems a bit sluggish when I try to unlock it or slide across, is there a way that I can increase the speed?
-installing a micro sd card? somehow fix the internal applications and stuff?
Thank you, and sorry for posting this uber noob thread, I just don't know where to start to look for specific threads to answer these questions.

Welcome to XDA!
The easiest way to install any type of application or software is to find it in .cab format, a cab will install and put all the files where they need to go on its own. All you have to do is sync your phone and drag the cab into your phones memory or better yet an SD card once you get one, then go into file explorer and click the cab, it will ask you where to install it (phone or SD) and presto you are good to go! Some cabs may prompt you to reset phone after install, its best to do so! If you installed Energy 3.0 then I assume you also Hard Spl'ed your phone. Once your phone is Hard Spl'ed you would be hard pressed to "Brick" it with an application and if you mess it up in some way or it stops working right check the Wiki on how to Hard reset and that will wipe it back to the way it was right after a fresh flash! If you have any other questions feel free to PM me and I will help you in any way I can!

thank you very much kind sir, i will figure out which cabs i need to download and then proceed until i have further trouble. thanks a lot for the cab info !

Custom ROM from existing ROM

Hi,
I would like to customize a ROM for myself but i would need your advice...
Is it possible to use a ROM (Lets say NRG ROM 2.5), and to customize it (reg tweaks, MMS config, Exchange Server config with password set by default, install some cab and put the registration keys by default....) ?
If this is possible, is it hard to update it ? for exemple if NRG updates his ROM, i also want to be up to date with mine, is it easy to "synchronize", or reapply all previous actions without too much hassle ?
Do you have any links i should read to start a Kitchen ?
Thanks in advance

It might be worth having a search around for SASHIMI. It'll let you collect .cabs and .reg files etc and automate running then after youve flashed a new ROM.
if you figure out how your reg details are kept for each piece of software (in the registry or a file etc.), you can get it to reinstate them after flashing too.
You could DL the latest verion of a ROM, pull it apart and change whatever you like and then flash it to your phone but it'd be a pain for pain version.
Using sashimi, its also easy to update your setup when indiviudual apps and settings change, without needing to reflash your phone and then re-sync etc.
The way I see it, sashimi only really needs setting up the once and then given a tweak when something changes rather than needing to be re-done as with a ROM...the only down-side I can really find is it needs running after a hard-reset, whereas if you cook the changes in they wouldnt (so its no good for 'find or nuke my stolen phone' type apps).
I believe a lot of cooked ROMs include 'User Customization' (UC) which does a similar thing, but i havent used it myself.
Also, I may be wrong, but i think you could need certain details from the original chef before you can pull apart a cooked ROM too (i remember reading about file somewhere in your kitchen, memory fails me though)-and, of course, the chefs permission
Let us know what you try out.
'tunes

[question] Cooking installed app into rom

Hello folks,
what I want to accomplish is to create perfect image of all apps and settings I have already in phone and create a rom from it, so I can distribute all the actual settings to more phones and the settings will also survive hard reset.
I read some tutorials on cooking roms and it seemed too difficult, so I just wondered if there is a utility, that could create a rom from what is installed at the moment. Or if there is some utility, that allows me to just extract settings from applications, put it together with cab files from that apps, also some rom and cook it all together.
I dont need to make any changes to the rom, just preinstall and preconfigure some apps.
Thanks for your replies. If you know about somethink that could be helpful, please add link and maybe some quick steps.

lpgsk said:
Hello folks,
what I want to accomplish is to create perfect image of all apps and settings I have already in phone and create a rom from it, so I can distribute all the actual settings to more phones and the settings will also survive hard reset.
I read some tutorials on cooking roms and it seemed too difficult, so I just wondered if there is a utility, that could create a rom from what is installed at the moment. Or if there is some utility, that allows me to just extract settings from applications, put it together with cab files from that apps, also some rom and cook it all together.
I dont need to make any changes to the rom, just preinstall and preconfigure some apps.
Thanks for your replies. If you know about somethink that could be helpful, please add link and maybe some quick steps.
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did you see the tutorial for complete rom backups? sticky section
sounds most reasonable for what you intend
cheers

I just read it yesterday. Wanted to ask if it would do the trick, but as new member I couldnt post links so I dropped. I think this would do the trick

lpgsk said:
I just read it yesterday. Wanted to ask if it would do the trick, but as new member I couldnt post links so I dropped. I think this would do the trick
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as your motivation is to preserve (and pass to other phones) a fixed set of installed apps and customized settings on a static rom, that should exactly do the trick for you, yes