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Has anyone with the current T-Mobile Shipped Rom, using the BB client updated to a higher radio/bluetooth version. If so, has it had an effect upon the BB client? If I recall correctly the BB client was shipped with 1.06 in Germany?
I would like to upgrade to 1.12 &3900 but afraid to do so.
Any help appreciated. Thanks
I called T-mobile and they sent me a disk with a ROM update that included Blackberry (Instant e-mail).
I installed the update, which ends with a hard re-set.
then I restored the MDA from a full Active sync backup. this of course overwrote the Blackberry app!
Then I unlocked the extended ROM using tools from this site. Then I ran the auto installer in extended rom and the Blackberry stuff was re-installed.
Then rang t-mobile and added Instant e-mail for £10 a month. Works well.
Got the T-Mobile BB upgrade, and got my account activated 4 weeks ago (radio is version 1.0, BT is 3500).
Got the BB service up and running, but when I tried to upgrade the radio stack to 1.10, everything worked fine on the phone side, but BB stopped working.
Contacted T-Mobile CS who tried to help me get it work, said everything was fine their end and even tried many options to make it work - In this particular instance I can honestly say that I have never had better customer service. At the start of the call, they offered to call me back right away (which they actually did) and the call lasted over an hour. Eventually we concluded that it must be a problem with the radio stack.
I re-installed from the T-Mobile 'upgrade' back down to radio 1.0 and everything worked fine 'straight out of the box'.
All the BB settings and data are stored in the storage area on the MDAIII, so hard resets do not mean loss of data and you don't have to reconfigure the BB client at all.
I haven't had the time to try any other radio stacks yet, but would be interested to hear anyone else's experiences.
Has anyone managed to extract the BB client from the T-Mobile UK ROM yet? If so, would someone be kind enough to point me in the right direction?
Also, has anyone managed to get it working with another operator (specifically Vodafone)
Thanks!!
T - Mobile Blackbery and Radio 1.06
Xda-Rocks
Did you manage to try BB with the 1.06 Rom on the FTP site. I am making an assumption that it should work as Germany released BB client with 1.06, but we all know what assuming does....
I am hoping that someone more expert than me will act as guinea pig :?:
Thanks J
The version I am using is
MDA3_TMUK_v106160_SHIP0307.exe
It works fine for me. I am using the t-mobile instant email account and it is also polling my standard pop3 account. I don't have a BES.
T-Mobile BB with Radio ROM 1.06 and upwards
OOPs apologies I wasn't very clear in my last post. What I was referring to is whether you have upgraded the Radio ROM from version 1.0 which is the one contained within the 1.06 BB Rom.
I am running BB fine on my device as well with the updated ROM. The problem, as ever, is the bluetooth range and quality. I believe that 1.06 is supposed to be a significant improvement over 1.0, even if 1.08/1.10 or 1.12 cannot be used.
Sorry for the misunderstanding and thanks for the tip. I'll upgrade to 106 asap and give it a try.
Jiggy - Sorry I took so long to reply, but I've been busy. Finally got round to installing 1.06 Rom on the FTP site and BB works. Thanks for the suggestion.
BB with Radio 1.06 and BT3900??
XDA Rocks - thanks for the response now I will give it a try
Have you upgraded the stack to 3900 in addition to the 1.06 upgrade?
I just wondered whether this will affect the BB.
Thanks J
T-mobile Blackberry
Gentlemen - many thanks for all the feedback and especially MDAIIIUSER for all the guidance.
Got slightly carried away and went the whole hog!
MDA III on UK T-mobile
Flashed with 1.40 ROM, 1.12 Radio and BA_ERK_13 (from 1.22 kitchen)
+BT 3900
Everything worked well and the bluetooth may have been marginally better.
However could not get the blackberry client to work. Using instant email - the system would log on and then drop out without registering. (Similar probs in other threads). Again Tmobile customer service were exemplary and we tried everything - finally resetting back down to 1.06 ROM, 1.00 Radio and 1.06 Ext ROM. Now it all works again!
Therefore I'm assuming it's the radio that's the problem and that 1.12 does not work with BB. When feelinfg brave again will upgrade the radio to 1.06 and the Ext ROM to BA_ERK_13. Is the consensus opinion that this is sensible and should I be able to get away with the main ROM upgrade to 1.40? Anyone else tried any other combinations that allow BB to work?
regards
sanjay_gasman
sanjay_gasman
Not sure if I read what you wrote correct or if you obmited some info.
Anyway If you used the ERK_122_013, in its full then you also upgraded patches like BT that are part of the 1.40.
You need to only use the customizing files and the ERK_140_Base files
As for the BB, you need to read the thread on that, think it went along the lines that only the 1.06 radio worked.
Re: BB with Radio 1.06 and BT3900??
Jiggy said:
XDA Rocks - thanks for the response now I will give it a try
Have you upgraded the stack to 3900 in addition to the 1.06 upgrade?
I just wondered whether this will affect the BB.
Thanks J
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Yes, upgraded to 3900 and BB works fine - BT still crackles though.
Radio 1.06
xda
Sorry to be a pain but could you PM me with the link or send me the 1.06 radio upgrade file. I couldn't find it on wiki (lowest I could find was 1.08).
Do you think it is worthwhile upgrading in terms of the quality and range of the bt (I note your comment that it is still crackling :evil: ). Hopefully you have noticed some improvement?
Thanks again
Jase
Jiggy,
I found the radio rom on the ftp site in
/BlueAngel/Radio_Roms
I have upgraded to 1.06 and BT3900 and personally haven't noticed any improvement using Jabra 200 and Bluespoon AX headsets
T-mobile Blackberry
MDAIIIUSER
Many thanks again.
Just confirming but if I understand correctly - the best that we can hope for on our UK MDA IIIs at present is: (with Blackberry working)
ROM 1.06
Radio 1.06
Ext ROM 1.40 cooked (customised as required)
Is this correct?
regards
sanjay_gasman
Sorry guys to bug you but i need your help.How can i revert back to
Qtek_9100 old rom 1.6.7.1 after upgrading to 2.8.7.102?I downloaded a new 1.6.7.1 ROM, tried that several times and it kept on telling me that I'm using a newer ROM therefore an upgrade is not possible.Could you outline to me or point me to a detailed info for downgrading cause the new ROM is not stable on my device(Qtek 9100).It keeps on rebooting even during a call and when i'm running other applications.
I'd appreciate your kind help.Thanks a mil.
I have a similar problem. Except I need to go back to my original tmobile MDA ROM. A2DP works fine, but nothing else is working for me. How can I go back?
davidbessler said:
I have a similar problem. Except I need to go back to my original tmobile MDA ROM. A2DP works fine, but nothing else is working for me. How can I go back?
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Did you backup your original rom? Also is aWizard not letting you go back to your previous rom? I have posted the production T-Mobile USA ROM in a different post on the board if you don't have your old ROM.
I am also curious what the issues are you are having as I have been wondering about trying the test ROM on a USA unit for T-Mobile going from 1.x to 2.x as you did.
I could use a link to the TMO USA MDA ROM just in case I need to exchange the machine. That said, I am having absolutely NO problems with the QTEK TEST ROM. However, I did lvlolvlo's trick and after I had flashed the new ROM, when it said that in 3 seconds it would install the extended ROM, I quickly soft-reset, and then installed the extended ROM stuff from TMobile. This automatically set up my internet, and made the email triggers a snap. I can now use my Motorola STEREO bluetooth headset (even has a mic for the phone). As an added bonus, with the TMO ROM, I was unable to have both MortButtons and MS VoiceCommand installed simultaneously (something about the startup folder), but with the QTEK ROM they both work.
You know, I came from the 6315, and this machine is FLAWLESS ... really a top-notch device, with the QTEK ROM, it is even better.
If you would like me to test out any functionality with this configuration, let me know, I'd be happy to test it out.
Can you get me that link to the original TMO ROM just in case?
I posted this not too long ago. It has the main rom and a link to the extended rom.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=42130&start=0&postdays=0&postorder=asc&highlight=
The reason I ask about your functionality is that you said your bluetooth stereo profile was working now but nothing else was? I am tempted to switch to the newer rom but not without some assurance it works semi decently. I am mainly interested in the Radio rom upgrade as mine seems to take a while to re-obtain a signal once it is lost and it ocassionally appears to not accept calls (going to voicemail) even though it has signal strength.
Any of you 8125 owners who installed the imate 2.16.9.101 release have any new feedback on how it's going? Are there still issues with the connection icons or wifi connectivity?
I'm eager to get push mail working and have not been able to get a straight answer from a dozen different folks at Cingular on when their release will come out...so I might give the imate release a shot.
What about going back to the shipping Cingular version after installing the imate update - is it easy/possible? Any problems with extended ROM?
thx
I never even used the phone with the original cingular firmware, I went directly to the Q-tek Test rom. From that rom to this rom, the radios seem a little better (getting better signal, edge seems slightly faster, wifi picks up network much faster) and for some reason the whole feel is "snappier" seems like the menus and such load faster. I haven't had any stability issues, and push is working perfect.
I dont' know about the much faster part, but mine is very stable since i removed battery pack pro. I have SPB's power plus as well as their weather software.
if there are any software you want tested just let me know. Well if I can atleast run it without having to buy it, (i.e. Demos, etc.)
Bluetooth, Wifi, Edge, and signal are all real good. (signal on par with 1.12 radio as well as faster to get a signal than it was)
Battery icon is NOT on the bottom and does NOT show more than 2 bars ( so you have full, somewhere in between, and low).
Battery life seems pretty good, but I can't compare it to any other version as I had the phone 36 hours before I upgraded it to this version.
Great thanks for the feedback yall. So once I do the upgrade, how hard will it be to go back to the shipped version if I ever need to? I have everything backed up using awizard, but I understand there could be problems trying to go to a previous version. I think downgrading via the bootloader mode requires executable rom images, but there isn't one available for the shipping version.
You can still downgrade to an old imate ROM and then use aWizard to restore your cingular ROM.
I have installed it on my Qtek 9100.
I hanged 5 times in 2 days.
What is more annoying is when it hangs and
someone tries to call me at the same time, the
other party hears my phone ringing, but my
Qtek is dead silent.
ethorn said:
I dont' know about the much faster part, but mine is very stable since i removed battery pack pro. I have SPB's power plus as well as their weather software.
if there are any software you want tested just let me know. Well if I can atleast run it without having to buy it, (i.e. Demos, etc.)
Bluetooth, Wifi, Edge, and signal are all real good. (signal on par with 1.12 radio as well as faster to get a signal than it was)
Battery icon is NOT on the bottom and does NOT show more than 2 bars ( so you have full, somewhere in between, and low).
Battery life seems pretty good, but I can't compare it to any other version as I had the phone 36 hours before I upgraded it to this version.
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Is your wifi working OK? If so, did you install any of the cingular exrom customizations?
Just curious, because I installed the released imate rom and everything is working like a champ except wifi. I installed some of the original customizations from the cingular exrom and I wonder if one of those cabs did something to the wifi config...
What kind of porblems are you having with the wifi?
nickcerda said:
What kind of porblems are you having with the wifi?
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It won't turn on.. =)
I thought perhaps it was one of the cingular customization cabs I installed from the original exrom, but now I'm not so sure. I looked at all the cabs and the only one that relates to wifi is the cab that sets the key to enable talking to 802.11g APs.
In comm manager, if I click the wifi icon, it appears to attempt to start wifi, but then goes back to an "x" over the wifi button. The wifi radio doesn't start and the left LED that blinks when wifi is on does not come on.
I wish there were some logs to look at on this thing to see why it's failing to start wifi..
Solved the wifi problem. It appears to be related to something in one of the original 8125 exrom cabs. I reinstalled the new imate rom, skipped the imate exrom install, and only installed a couple cabs from the 8125 exrom. The cabs I installed that did not affect wifi were the mms config, the gprs account config, and the edge icon.
All is now well. If I had the time and patience I'd tear apart the original 8125 cabs to see which one might cause wifi probs, but at this point it's not necessary.
I'll stick with it as-is now until cingular releases their own update...assuming that happens before the hermes is out.. =)
I have a Dopod 838 (identical to 8125, I suppose). The new ROM has worked awesome for me. Better in every way. Even the infamous Activesyn problem went away
I am getting ready to take the plunge...just in case...
does anyone have the original 8125 ROM?
I use SPB backup can restore a backup after I upgrade?
I installed this rom on my 9100, and it is much better than it was with any of the other roms including the original shipped rom!
The radio is much clearer and the wifi hooks up faster and runs better, and I have had absolutely NO lock ups at all.
Later
I am thinking of installing it on an 8125...
Without a backup 'known good' ROM to revert back to I am cautious
summiter said:
Solved the wifi problem. It appears to be related to something in one of the original 8125 exrom cabs. I reinstalled the new imate rom, skipped the imate exrom install, and only installed a couple cabs from the 8125 exrom. The cabs I installed that did not affect wifi were the mms config, the gprs account config, and the edge icon.
All is now well. If I had the time and patience I'd tear apart the original 8125 cabs to see which one might cause wifi probs, but at this point it's not necessary.
I'll stick with it as-is now until cingular releases their own update...assuming that happens before the hermes is out.. =)
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I added the extROM files one by one to see which one caused the wifi issue and it was Signed-gprsstall_128.sa.cab...so far. It was only the third one in a series of 17. I'll see what happens when I add the rest. This cab file moves a radio.dll file around.
I've installed this ROM on 2 8125's. Much better and faster than Cingular's ROM. The only thing I did was to install the Cingulcustomize_No_Emails.cab, Microsoft Voice and TRE Pocket PC registry editor and remove all traces of the Voice Command. WiFi connects to my secured access point flawlessly (though I never use WiFi) and the AKU2 push email typically has my emails coming in in about 8-10 seconds from my Exchange 2003 server. Very infrequent lockups, much less than any other ROM I've installed.
Just my two cents worth ...
Steven
ROM version: 2.16.9.1 WWE
ROM date: 2/6/06
Radio version: 02.07.10
Protocol version: 413.1.03
ExtROM version: 2.16.9.101
Cingulcustomize_No_Emails.cab
What does that cab do?
nickcerda said:
Cingulcustomize_No_Emails.cab
What does that cab do?
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the one thing I see is it sets up the GPRS settings for data connection ... you do not need it to make phone calls or use Wifi
Step by step to 2.16
I have a cingular 8125. I'm no stranger to flashing roms, I had a SX66 that was running WM5 and I reloladed it all the time. I'd like to see a step by step guide for unlocking the ext rom, flashing the radio and system roms for the 8125. Anyone know a post with that info in it?
Thanks!
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dmelton75 said:
I have a cingular 8125. I'm no stranger to flashing roms, I had a SX66 that was running WM5 and I reloladed it all the time. I'd like to see a step by step guide for unlocking the ext rom, flashing the radio and system roms for the 8125. Anyone know a post with that info in it?
Thanks!
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Interesting you say you're no stranger to flashing ROMs but then ask for a step by step.
It's laid out quite well in several topics, but basically:
-Use awizard and enable rapi
-Use awizard and CID unlock
-Use awizard to back up Extrom, radio, splash, os
-Run the executable RUU installer for the imate
-On first boot, as soon as you get prompted to choose a carrier, do a soft reset to prevent the imate ext rom stuff from loading
-Install desired customization items from your backed up cingular ext rom. Any of them can be installed EXCPET the gprsstall cab - it will kill your wifi.
There is currently no way to unlock the ext rom in the lates imate upgrade, so you're stuck with what's in there, but you don't have to let it install.
At the moment I hate my 1 week old QTEK 9090.
To enable GPRS I normally have to reboot.
Sometimes to get Wifi and BT working I have to reboot.
GPRS drops out during a phone call
Sometimes I have to reboot when there is no sound at all on the device. Just no sound at all.
I have had it a week. Probably had to reboot it at least 3 times a day and the reboot is LONG!
Wow such a good concept let down by a HUGE number of bugs
What version rom and radio does your 9090 use? (start menu>settings>device information)
check here
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=BA_Upgrades
for latest official rom release by your phones manufacturer. Possibly an upgrade is beneficial! Either that, or your phone may have hardware issues. Check your service provider for repair/rma services.
Good luck!
Thanks for that.
I will check. One issue I have a work around for....
I only lose sound when I close down Windows Media Player before I stop the music. Stop it first and then close and all is fine. That is a start.
I wish the ROM upgrades were simpler like on my Treo 650.....upgrade does a backup, flashes the new ROM and then brings back the data....
I found my device and rom on that link ta. So does that mean I have the latets for my device....
This is exactly my 9090:
Qtek WWE OP ID 1.40.00 1.40.147 1.12.00
Protocol version 1337.42
So I must have the latest ROM for my device...ripper.
Rom
Yeah you have the latest rom. when i 1st got my qtek i had some strange issues as well. what i ended up doing was to install a different rom (downgrade) and then install back to my rom (latest version). Hey presto my pda was running much smother.
Take your time to read all the info on the forum and most of all read wiki!! It takes some time to get used to wm2003se if your switching from palm. Have fun!!!
Thanks.
I have used many PPC devices as well. Last one was AXIM X50V. Before that was IPAQ 2210, IPAQ 1930.......
From the 2210 onwards everything was nice and stable.
Just this device.....!!
If I could get it to reliably start up GPRS and wireless every time I would be fine. BT is not such an issue.
Now I have solved my sound problem that is excellent.
good bye wm2003se
I will be really honest with you!!! when i was using my pda with wm2003se i had to soft reset my device 5-6 times a day....wifi being the biggest problem. needles to say it was critical to have a good backup software (Sprite). after being really frustrated i found this site....(thanks god)....know i use wm5 and guess what after 8 weeks i have not had to soft reset my device once. wm5 at the moment is not perfect but for me its stable and quick enough.
Cool....so moving my QTEK 9090 to WM5 what should I look out for? What are the issues? Will I get anything else? Lose anything?
Stability is 100% key for, but in terms of features, WM2003SE has everything i need. It just doesn't work all of the time.
What WM5 ROM do you recommend?
Oops I see Ivan....got a link?
So what is the best procedure to do the backup?
Can I easily go back to the original ROM?
Ivan 4.3
it really depends how you use your pda and what kind of functionality you want. for me speed and stability are essential. i dont use blue tooth to much just to transfer data...(no headset). as all users of wm5 will tell you there are pros and cons with each wm5 rom. my advice is to read the forums and pick a version that best suits your needs. in any case you will have to do some hacks to really bring the best out of your device on wm5. see my sig for what i have installed.
forgot to answer your question. to downgrade your device is much easier than to upgrade. before you go down this road please READ wiki carefully!!!
Finally a new rom for us vario owners!
http://t-mobile.iris-global.com/download_manager_mda_vario.html
Does anyone have a changelog?
i am uploading it to the ftp site
has anyone installed it yet?
Guys let us all know your findings with this rom please
I looked at it. Here's the stats:
OS 5.1.195 (Build 14847.2.0.0) (AKU 2.0)
Radio 02.19.11
IPL/SPL 2.21
Ext ROM 2.21.2.109
Protocol 4.1.13.09
ROM build date 3/9/06
yawn.
=)
t-mobile rom
it look like dopod and tmobille are using same rom and radio .
summiter said:
I looked at it. Here's the stats:
OS 5.1.195 (Build 14847.2.0.0) (AKU 2.0)
Radio 02.19.11
IPL/SPL 2.21
Ext ROM 2.21.2.109
Protocol 4.1.13.09
ROM build date 3/9/06
yawn.
=)
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Oh well it shouldn't come as much of a surprise really, but it would of be nice to get something different.
deadmetal said:
Finally a new rom for us vario owners!
http://t-mobile.iris-global.com/download_manager_mda_vario.html
Does anyone have a changelog?
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Looks like the same ROM that was leaked a few days ago. This contains the same Ext ROM that I used to create the Mr. Clean AKU 2.3 T-Mobile UK ROM.
I've not yet tried upgrading the ROM on my UK Vario, but I guess now is the time to think about it. I want to keep my stored SMS and MMS messages, but everything else on the machine I'll probably clean-install and re-tweak as necessary once I get the new ROM flashed. I've got a good idea of what I do and don't want in my Vario after 5 months use, and I guess now would be a great time to get rid of all the junk that's probably clogging up the registry by now.
A couple of questions:
I know I can make a backup copy of the current ROM onto a clean SD card, but can I back it up onto a partially used card (i.e. using the file system, rather than raw data blocks).
I backup my Vario regularly using SPB Backup. Can the SPB Restore utility restore just my SMS/MMS messages (including user-created folders) without reinstalling anything else, so I can keep a nice clean machine?
The UK T-Mobile release is 2.0, whereas "Mr Clean ROM" is 2.3. I'm guessing 2.3 is better, but what am I likely to lose (if anything) that's on the T-Mobile ROM? Is the stereo bluetooth headset facility on both? I've already removed most of the obvious T-Mobile pink stuff, and put in a better dialler skin, etc. In fact, I don't really want T-Mobile's dialler skin at all, as I've been trying to get rid of their modified history & speeddial icons for ages!
Finally, what about reinstalling things like TomTom - will doing so remove my user-defined favourite place settings, etc? (my maps are stored on SD card)
Thanks for any advice, I'm a little nervous here...
Andre
^^^ Same questions and concerns for me.
Also, I flashed my T-Mobile UK MDA from original ROM to Qtek 2.17 ROM a month ago. I SIM & CID unlocked it in the process using Lokiwiz 0.2b - do I need to prep the phone with Lokiwiz 0.3 before flashing the MDA to keep it unlocked?
Cheers in advance.
deadmetal said:
Finally a new rom for us vario owners!
http://t-mobile.iris-global.com/download_manager_mda_vario.html
Does anyone have a changelog?
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Things I've noticed so far:
1)
The Comms screen has been radically changed, adding a "push" button (deactivated on my uk t-mobile vario for some reason) and another button that looks like a ppc to ppc connection.
2)
The battery icon has moved from the bottom right corner to the top right corner, on the top panel, (where the time used to be) and has turned an ugly shade of green. I presume it goes yellow -> red when on low power.
3)
In the programs, something called "SAP Settings" has been added.
It's used for remote sim access apparently.
4)
"Running Programs" is now a program and can be seen on the start menu
6)
"Comm manager is now a program that appears on the "running programs" list.
5)
When starting up, it displays the t-mobile screen followed by the WINDOWS MOBILE screen instead of just the t-mobile screen.
Finally, this could because of a cleaner registry and stuff, but it does feel somewhat more efficient.
So would the early adopters say it is better or worse than the mighty summiter/Mr Clean (Uk) versions
Bhayani
Right now I like the Mr Clean version better, but I only had that on for a weekend and the new one has only been on for an hour or so.
Personally after a day with it I'm tempted to go back to the qtek 2.17 rom
Hi can someone post up the MMS settings as I didn't note them down when I updated the rom - doh! UK of course.
arf said:
Personally after a day with it I'm tempted to go back to the qtek 2.17 rom
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Thats interesting.... Im using a Qtek 2.17 ROM at the moment and am considering upgrading, but Im holding back at the moment. What dont you like?
Bad news here. I've been running the Mr Clean Comes to London ROM for a few days with no problems at all and before that one of the Qtek ones and the unit never reset itself which it had ben doing with the T-Mobile ROM from the start of the year. I am happy with the performance of the new T-Mobile ROM after installing it yesterday but overnight it went back to soft resetting itself as all of my open programs were shut down this morning. Also when I turned it on the screen wasn't responding so I ended up doing another reset.
I'll leave it over the weekend but it looks like the spontaneous reset problem hasn't been resolved. Strange that T-Mobile can't fix that but all the other ROMs seem to have it licked!
leigho said:
Strange that T-Mobile can't fix that but all the other ROMs seem to have it licked!
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Of course it could be something T-Mobile has put in that's causing it. I'm thinking Mr Clean is the way to go...
Andre