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radio upgrade now no phone

tried upgrading just the radio to 2.25. rebooted. now get no radio information on device information. tried hard resetting and rebooting PC. still no radio/phone. can't get the device to be recognized again so i can reload a different os. working with qtek test OS. always had problem with poor phone reception/quality so i tried this upgrade. i've upgraded numerous times w/o a problem. any suggestions.

no radio/phone anymore
also, battery meter reads as unknown.
3 hard resets later: no luck!
Device information: rom version 2.8.7.1 WWE, rom date 12/5/05, ext rom 2.8.7.101
no radio information!!!!!!!!!!!! help

Try this:
With the phone off, press the camera button and hold it in
Now press the power button for 5-10 seconds
Let go the power button
If the screen comes up with 3 color bars, connect the phone to your computer and run your favorite firmware.
Let us know the results...
Good luck!

thanks yellow dragon
unluckily, i drained the battery last night trying to figure this out. usb port seems broken (dropped?) so i can't recharge it. i wish i had this info earlier. will be smarter next time. appreciate the advice. sending to imate under warranty? crossing my fingers. marc

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Hello Marc,
These devices don't seem to like to have their batteries drained flat.
Here's one trick I've used with my boss PDA which did the same thing, the battery drained and it would not recharge with the stock charger.
You'll need to take out the Wizard's battery.
1. Take a DC adapter that puts out 5-6 VDC.
2. Make a note where the positive and negative terminals are. Usually the center/tip is positive and the barrel/ring is negative but this is not a defacto standard. Check the adapter casing to be sure. DO NOT USE AC OR MORE THAN 6 VOLTS! THE BATTERY PACK COULD BE DAMAGED!
3. Attach a wire to the adapter's positive and another wire to the negative. How you hook it up is left to your imagination
4. Now, with the negative wire coming from the adapter touch the negative terminal on the battery. Touch the positive battery terminal with the positive wire. The battery polarity is printed on the label.
5. Charge the battery like this for 15-30 seconds but no more.
6. Now plug the battery back into the phone and attach the charger.
The battery should start charging now. If it doesn't, it means it is deeply discharged and you'll have to repeat the procedure, this time for 30 seconds tops. Again, remember by doing this procedure you're bypassing the charging/conditioning circuits and the battery could be damaged!
Good luck!

Problem flashing Wizard

I was attempting to do a new upgrade to WM6 after running the stock WM5 for about a day, and during the flash process the RUU utility crashed on my business laptop (The memory location could not be "written"). Ever since then, my phone boots up in the three colored bar RUU mode.
After reading http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=294107, I felt that all was not lost and it looked like I could just simply reflash while it was in RUU mode. The problem now is that whenever I try to flash it, no matter what rom (stock Cingular rom, T-Mo 2.26, different WM6 roms, etc.) the phone reboots anywhere between 1 & 4% through during the flashing process.
I don't know what the battery % is anymore (since I can't boot directly), but I know it was around 80% when I originally started. I tried plugging the phone into the charger (not USB to PC) and the phone went into RUU mode on there as well. Is there a way to charge the battery while in RUU mode?
Are there any other ideas? I don't really know anyone with a Wizard so I don't know if I can swap a battery with someone else to give that a shot. Thanks in advance for any help,
Jason

You could cut open a usb cable and manually charge your battery. I have done that before by taping the wire leads to the battery and letting it charge for an hour or so.

Which wires would go to which leads on the battery?

Try to shut down and plug your wiza into the USB. Take out your battery and plug it in prior doing this...It happened to me once..sorry I don't remember exactly how I fixed it...but I remember trying more ways.

Do you mean shutting down the phone or the computer?
I have tried pretty much any combination that I can think of. I finally hit 50% without the "communication failure" from occurring. When it happens, the USB "Ding-Ding" noise happens indicating that it has been unplugged, and when the phone boots up again the noise happens again showing reconnection.
Jason

Ugghhhh I'm so pissed at the phone I just want to smash it lol I would never do that. I was even ready to try to exchange it under warrantee but I was trying some different flashes to make sure my battery troubles were h/w and not s/w first :-/ It is in the fridge now cooling off while I pretend that it is going to help...
Jason

myrandex said:
Ugghhhh I'm so pissed at the phone I just want to smash it lol I would never do that. I was even ready to try to exchange it under warrantee but I was trying some different flashes to make sure my battery troubles were h/w and not s/w first :-/ It is in the fridge now cooling off while I pretend that it is going to help...
Jason
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WHAT ? You put your Wizard in the fridge ? Man, that's insane !
I hope you're joking if not, get it out of there.
First make sure that you have the battery charged, and only then move to the next phase (flashing)
After it's charged, use a ROM that you know for sure it works !
This is easy, you're making it hard.
P.S. I meant take the battery out of the Wizard, then put it back and only then connect to PC through USB to charge it.

lol I was teasing but in computers I have used the freezer trick on hard drives that didn't like behaving
Yea I have tried like a 100 times tonight with no luck though. I have to resist physically damaging it to try to do the battery theory tomorrow when hopefully I can convince some stranger @ work to let me swap batteries with him for an "experiment"
Jason

I would suggest maybe trying a different computer to flash from or at least a different USB port, but since you said that you're using a laptop that may not be an option. If you do have a second USB port though try connecting the sync cable to it. From what you've described so far, you should be up and going again already by now.

Sounds like your battery level is low. Plug your phone into a wall charger, don't worry whats on the screen and let it charge for a while.

Cing 8125 said:
Sounds like your battery level is low. Plug your phone into a wall charger, don't worry whats on the screen and let it charge for a while.
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I hear that sheet! been there done that. 2yrs ago with my blue angel, and just a few months ago with the wizard. it works (if the battery% being to low is the problem)

Good so it still sounds like it will chare in RUU mode? I am leaving it in that state right now for a couple of hours to see if it helps.
Jason

It is rebooting like once per second now pretty continuously. I don't think it is getting much of a charge :-/

I still think it is your battery. I had the same problem, I let the battery charge overnight. I don't know how long it takes to charge when the phone is in that state but it might not charge as fast when it is.
You have to use a wall charger and some people suggest a cradle charger but I used my wall charger.
Also if the battery gets to low it won't charge. I don't think that is your problem but if it is you would need to jump start or get a bit of charge on it so it will charge. There is a thread about doing this using a 9V battery.
Good luck.

Well I tracked down someone with a 8125 today and convinced him to let me borrow his battery for a bit, and the flash took just fine. Now I'm back to running stock Cingular WM5 :-/ I think I will let it run like this for a couple of days before I get adventurous again, and if the battery flakes up at all, warranty exchange since the s/w is stock now

Glad to hear you got it going.

Not to highjack the thread but i seem to have a similar problem.
I can sync my 8525 with the computer, but when i start the ruuwrapper and it starts to sync, it shows i have a connection problem.
Like regularly, i can like remove and add files and what not, but just when trying to flash it with a new rom, it disconnects on its own.
Error (260)
Can someone shed some light.

Tilt wont turn on or charge. Shows red light when plugged

Noobie addicted to flashing. The headline says it all. After about 5 -6 different flashes (mostly different ROMs), it wont turn on. And instead of the yellow light that shows when charging, it's a red one, and pushing the power button does nothing. PLEASE HELP!!

Ditto.... And I haven't had time to do any flashing (plenty of time for streaking, tho). lol. When did yours have this problem? Mine just happened last night. I have babied this one like there is no tomorrow, so there's no reason for it to just quit.

FWIW, mine happened the first night I owned it when it was completely standard (ie no flashing at all). All I did was plug it in to the charger. When I woke up the next morning it was as you described. The store reps tried every combination of new charger, new battery and new SIM card with my phone but in the end they gave me a new phone.

This is bizarre - the same thing happening to all of us on the same night?!?
I woke up late this morning because my phone alarm didn't go off. Upon inspection, I realized that it hadn't charged and was completely dead even though it was plugged in all night.
Now plugging it into the wall or into a USB port results in a red light, no charging. I can't even turn it on although it's directly connected to power.
I've flashed several ROMs, but I've been running Dutty's 7B since it was released two weeks ago or so - I doubt that's a factor.
Help? Anyone?

Ummm, ok this is really fawkin freaky...add me to the list. Running dualtouch 1.1. Hung up the phone, went back to it an hour later...dead as a doornail. Wouldnt charge, got the red LED. Luckily I'd only owned it for 27 days, so I returned it to my local AT&T store and got a new one....too many people on the same night for this to be an isolated incident...same as other users, babied it like, well, an overpriced cellphone . Methinks there is something afoot!!!

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Add me to the list.
Ok, this just happened to me just now...
MY 400$ PHONE JUST QUIT!!!!!
Not even 4 days old and it just gave out...
My standpoint (im a techie nerd) is this:
I charged my phone on my moms blackberry charger (~500mA)
The kaiser needs 1A to charge, so i only had half the power i was told...
When I had 89% I really had 44% and it drained really fast. So when I got home it was around 53% meaning I only had about 2% battery left (understand?) and when i pulled it out of my pocket...nothing, it wouldnt turn on SO I FREAKED OUT!!!!!!
I called HTC and they said to try a new battery, so I am going to go to the ATT store tomorrow and try another battery.
O and the reason is,
when Li-ion batterys get really low, they cease to produce the charge needed to keep the miniport active, thus resulting in any attempt to charge as futile.
Thats why you need to take out the battery and 'jump start' it by stripping a usb cable and putting the corresponding wires on their terminals (red + back -)
which will forcefully charge the battery and allow the miniport to become operable again. At which point you can resume using the HTC OEM charger (1A output at 5v) to resume the full charge. No other charger will suffice.
Im am going to try this now, you guys too and report back!
Dismissed!!!!

But my battery is fully charged...

tyeo098 said:
Add me to the list.
Ok, this just happened to me just now...
MY 400$ PHONE JUST QUIT!!!!!
Not even 4 days old and it just gave out...
My standpoint (im a techie nerd) is this:
I charged my phone on my moms blackberry charger (~500mA)
The kaiser needs 1A to charge, so i only had half the power i was told...
When I had 89% I really had 44% and it drained really fast. So when I got home it was around 53% meaning I only had about 2% battery left (understand?) and when i pulled it out of my pocket...nothing, it wouldnt turn on SO I FREAKED OUT!!!!!!
I called HTC and they said to try a new battery, so I am going to go to the ATT store tomorrow and try another battery.
O and the reason is,
when Li-ion batterys get really low, they cease to produce the charge needed to keep the miniport active, thus resulting in any attempt to charge as futile.
Thats why you need to take out the battery and 'jump start' it by stripping a usb cable and putting the corresponding wires on their terminals (red + back -)
which will forcefully charge the battery and allow the miniport to become operable again. At which point you can resume using the HTC OEM charger (1A output at 5v) to resume the full charge. No other charger will suffice.
Im am going to try this now, you guys too and report back!
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Sorry to tell... but when this happening you need a repair. I got this problem 2 times with my Wizard. It's a hardware problem.
I did all the tricks you can mention but at the end it needed a repair.
I had some luck after the second time i got a compleet new MOB from T-Mobile SHOP Sales-Manager (Utrecht).
It sounds like the problem is with the Kaizer... so far everything overhere is OK.
I use only the org. loader and USB-port on my computer. Don't use a other loader than that !!!!

Just wanted to add my name to this list...
I've had my Tilt about 2 days. I haven't flashed it, but I have run several cabs on it...I didn't have it on charger when I went to bed, when I woke up, it was off. The only thing I did different than the rest of you was I tried to turn it on before I put it on the charger and it came back on saying that the battery was critically low or whatever, so then I stuck it on the charger and it seems to be ok now.
I could see it being a hardware issue, just seems weird that so many people had it on the same night, and under such different circumstances.
Also, first post...this site is great and you are all smarter than I ever hope to be

okay lets try this...remove batt....let phone sit for a few minutes. plug into power source without batt. unplg again....then plug again. while plugged into power source...put batt in...then remove...then in again. then hit the reset button. ofcorse this has nothing to do with anything. but if it was me i would try anything lol....lets see what happens.

rzanology said:
okay lets try this...remove batt....let phone sit for a few minutes. plug into power source without batt. unplg again....then plug again. while plugged into power source...put batt in...then remove...then in again. then hit the reset button. ofcorse this has nothing to do with anything. but if it was me i would try anything lol....lets see what happens.
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lol....good one.
No wait....I must hold back the epicaricacy, don't want this happening to me as well
A moral dilemma you have caused here with your post...
(Good luck to everyone who's experiencing those problems )
H.

lesevich said:
lol....good one.
No wait....I must hold back the epicaricacy, don't want this happening to me as well
A moral dilemma you have caused here with your post...
(Good luck to everyone who's experiencing those problems )
H.
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lol also...does the phone come on with just the power cable plugged in and no batt? im curious to know about that. the latest version of kaiser tweak has a bunch of power settings. if the phone does come one...load up kaiser tweak and get in there to see if you can mess with the settings to fix this issue.

rzanology said:
lol also...does the phone come on with just the power cable plugged in and no batt? im curious to know about that. the latest version of kaiser tweak has a bunch of power settings. if the phone does come one...load up kaiser tweak and get in there to see if you can mess with the settings to fix this issue.
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Well, speaking for those of us with the problem, the phone won't come on WITH the battery installed and the cable plugged in... I GUESS I could try it w/o the battery... would that even work normally?
I'm desperate.

drokkon said:
Well, speaking for those of us with the problem, the phone won't come on WITH the battery installed and the cable plugged in... I GUESS I could try it w/o the battery... would that even work normally?
I'm desperate.
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key word desperate!! lol anything works when you're desperate...give it a try. if not then we'll move on to hard resetting and see where that leaves us.

This same thing happened to me a week ago. I hope you guys have your phones on contract from AT&T, because I took mine back to the store after 2 months of use (took great care of it, no drops etc.) and they put me in contact with customer support.
Great experience with support - they will ask you to take battery out, examine the battery contacts, ask if it was dropped or put in water, ask if you tried another battery and finally ask about hard reseting. Since the device doesn't even power on in this case, hard reset isn't an option.
The tech rep imediately told me it sounded like a hardware problem and shipped me a new phone overnight. They send you a reconditioned phone (it looks brand new) without a battery or stylus or back cover. You use your old battery, cover and stylus and send back your brick with the enclosed shipping label. As long as it gets back to them in 14 days and is deemed by them not to have been dropped or damaged, you don't get charged for the replacement device. Worked like a charm for me...but we'll see in a few months time if this same problem crops up again. Fingers crossed...
P.S. They will initially quote you $12 to upgrade to overnight shipping, but make sure to tell them that the phone is for business use and you need it quickly and they should upgrade the shipping for free. Worked for me!
By the way - I never flashed a different ROM on the original phone. (Stock AT&T ROM but soft reset before bloatware intallation) So don't think it has anything to do with flashing too many or the wrong ROM!

Red light.......
I called HTC and they said something got smoked inside.......I called warrenty dept. and they shipped me a replacement.......I think this is weird too.....oh well such as life.......

Did you have to ship the smoked one back?
Kind of a dumb question yes, but if no, poke around inside to see if you cant get it working again.

happened to me too. i'm pretty sure its a hardware issue.

This happened to me as well. I'm glad there is a thread to address the problem!
The one thing I noticed that is different about this new kaiser I have is that the battery is made by DynaPack, the battery in the kaiser that has this issues was a Samsung battery.
May this be the culprit?

Red light of death fixed!!! (sticky???)

I think I just figured out how to fix it!!!!!!! I was tinkering around and got my red light brick to turn on!!!! I'm not sure exactly what fixed it so here's everything I did-
1. Removed the storage & sim cards.
2. Took off the backplate.
3. Removed the battery.
4. Bent these 2 pins up a little bit:
5. Put the battery in at an angle, so that the power leads were connected, but the metal shielding plate on the back of the battery was not touching:
6. Hit the power button (with the battery still "halfway" installed) Bam, green light of life.
Somebody please confirm this. Meanwhile I'll be copywriting this process so anyone who performs it owes me 10 bucks

So my replacement Tilt isn't working either, so they're overnighting me a third one. In the meantime, I haven't sent back my original (RLoDed) Tilt, so I thought I'd play around with some of your theories.
skuzz said:
Another thought I had. After the tilt goes into red brick death mode, has anyone tried plugging it into power, battery installed, and then holding down power+camera(all the way) and then pushing in the reset button on the bottom? This may trigger it to go into flash mode - although I kinda doubt it'll work. Worth a shot! Might be able to reflash it back to life! Holding down power and camera while it boots is how you manually force it to get in the Red/Green/Blue firmware flash mode. If it let us do that much when the device bricked we might have a snowball's chance in hell of getting them working. I didn't think of trying it before I returned mine tho. D'oh!
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I didn't know what to try besides installing the battery and SIM card and trying to push down the power, camera, and stylus buttons (I knew I was doing it correctly, because I had to use this to return my second Tilt to factory specs). No response whatsoever! This thing is deader than a doornail. Except for the red LED, of course... that works REALLY well whenever it's plugged in.
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I think I just figured out how to fix it!!!!!!! I was tinkering around and got my red light brick to turn on!!!! I'm not sure exactly what fixed it so here's everything I did-
1. Removed the storage & sim cards.
2. Took off the backplate.
3. Removed the battery.
4. Bent these 2 pins up a little bit:
5. Put the battery in at an angle, so that the power leads were connected, but the metal shielding plate on the back of the battery was not touching:
6. Hit the power button (with the battery still "halfway" installed) Bam, green light of life.
Somebody please confirm this. Meanwhile I'll be copywriting this process so anyone who performs it owes me 10 bucks
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I appreciate your enthusiasm, but the only thing I can confirm is that this did NOT work on my RLoDed Tilt. Tried it several times in various ways. I think you just seriously lucked out!
As such, I'd also have to vote against stickying this... for now.
Best of luck, all... if not actually in fixing your RLoDed Tilts, then definitely in avoiding the $500 service fee if AT&T discovers we voided our warranties.

alright i will confirm this too....my phone was truely RLOD..... i did the same thing that these guys did just jammin the battery in and out and it "jump started the phone"
exact process used
Moto Razr charger
hold down power button
"bounce" battery on and off the contacts for the battery a good 100 times or so
green light apeared after the red light started to flicker a little bit..... tis as if you were giving the phone CPR or something
im not going to call this a fix all i know is that the phone was RLOD and now it is working....battery is at 54% right now and i will post back in a bit to see if it has risen at all....
no smell arising from device
running origional rom but have had other roms on there (alex's)
hard SPL still installed on device
SPB phone suite is the last software that was installed on the device
reg tweaks installed as well, the usual ones no sms, hsdpa enabled blah blah blah
that is about all i can provide....the unit was on the computer overnight charging....when i woke up it was RLOD....and i was sad....i did have the ATT store replace the battery for me as well dunno if that had anything to do with the issue...
in the time that it has taken me to write this the battery is now at 55% so it is charging.....on wall charger with MOTO razr charger
ok lets take a little closer look at what happened within the past little bit....
after gettin the device all up and running it was behaving very oddly.... it would go through multiple attempts to connect to the data network for various reasons....after showing that it was at 55% on the charger it went back down to 54%... i pulled it off the charger and took it into the other room to do something......within 10 min it was down to 46%....now having a data connection my blackberry connect should have a valid network connection....but it did not... not sure why...
the best that i can conclude is that it was trying to connect to so many things all at the same time that it exhausted its self that fast....
so the question is how many people out there that have RLOD are running the BB connect software on there devices and have made REG edits to the data connection time outs and the HSDPA mod availability
editing those settings together may confuse the device and make it think that it has to connect to too many things at one time....
just another thought process that i thought that i would throw out there...
here are some things on the my device that would use the DATA connection and automatically initiate the connection on the device rather than you opening a program forcing it to connect such as Internet explorer
GPS update
HTC home weather tab
SPB weather tab
Blackberry connect
SPB insight....RSS Reader
text messages going in and out....my phone sees quite a few of those
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There have been a few other people who have now fixed their RLOD's. Confirmed it was done by messing about with the battery. If you have revived yours, please post your method in here so we can compare them and eventually pinpoint the fix. Thanks.

i had the same prob..took out the batterly wiped the four contact points on the phone (might of pushed them down or up) and put battery back in and worked..

I believe sWuRv was onto something. My Tilt had the RLOD today. I tried everything, even what he suggested above to no avail. So I called warranty and got my replacement on it's way, express shipping waved and all. So I decided to everything I could think of to try and get the thing back on so I might be able to back up my data again.
I started fooling with the battery, like sWuRv suggested but I moved it all around at 45 degrees or so pushing the power on button. I noticed while it was plugged to the USB with red light on that every now and then the red light would flash when I moved the battery so the contacts moved (while holding the battery at that 45 degrees). I started getting the light to go yellow but it would not stay. So I unplugged from the USB and kept trying it while pushing the power button. It eventually started and I was able to back up to my SD card. One thing I can tell you is that this process caused the phone to get hot and smell like electronics burning a little. There is definitely a power problem inside.
I have no idea how or why this worked but it did. I think I will still take the replacement even though I have to figure out how to swap my fancy invisible armor clear protector skin.
I'll try and update on whether this phone dies again or what until I get the new one.

rlod
I tried messing with the battery in a variety of ways for 30 minutes with no sucess. RLOD stayed solid.

RLOD
Holy shoot............After bouncing my battery up and down about 40 times my phone came to life!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Reseating the battery and/or sim/storage cards is hardly a revolutionary procedure. Its Cellphone 101.

you guys are LIFE SAVERS. I have been on this forum for about a month now and I finally found a reason to post. I haven't posted because I always find my answers. I just wanted to thank everyone, as I have been on the phone with Amazon.com (where i got my tilt), went into an AT&T store and was on the phone with HTC tech support ALL day trying to resolve my red light issue. Unbelievable that all I needed to do was give it some "battery CPR":

UGHHHH. Well i found reason to make post #2. The fix lasted less than 5 minutes.

this did not work for me

These stories remind me off all the bad batteries/no powerup of my Motorola Q and those of others. My mother is on her 4th Q and I know its the battery, but the store just swaps out the whole phone. I've seen batteries last as little at 2 weeks, especially if let run down to empty at any point.
My questions are, is this just a bad battery problem? Does anyone with RLoD have a spare battery to try? If these batteries fail in the shorted condition, will they over draw power from the phone and mess up the charging circuit?
Roto

"Not the Mama", OR, NOT THE BATTERY
rotohammer said:
These stories remind me off all the bad batteries/no powerup of my Motorola Q and those of others. My mother is on her 4th Q and I know its the battery, but the store just swaps out the whole phone. I've seen batteries last as little at 2 weeks, especially if let run down to empty at any point.
My questions are, is this just a bad battery problem? Does anyone with RLoD have a spare battery to try? If these batteries fail in the shorted condition, will they over draw power from the phone and mess up the charging circuit?
Roto
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I certainly don't believe it's a bad battery problem. I had 2 spare batteries, fully charged with separate docking charger - none of the 3 batteries made any difference once I got the RLOD.

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I certainly don't believe it's a bad battery problem. I had 2 spare batteries, fully charged with separate docking charger - none of the 3 batteries made any difference once I got the RLOD.
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Very good, thanks for the insight!

I finished a call yesterday and then dropped my phone on to the pavement cos I was a bit drunk... Anyway this caused my phone to go from working fine (all be it with pants battery life) to just flashing the red light. Fixed it today. I tried the methods prescribed in this thread without success although I did not persevere for very long. I then put a spare battery in to the phonea and bingo the orange light comes on, phone boots up and it's now happilly charging. Note that I charged the old battery for several hours before trying the fix. Pity nobody seems to know what the problem actually is. I wish HTC would let us know....

sWuRv said:
There have been a few other people who have now fixed their RLOD's. Confirmed it was done by messing about with the battery. If you have revived yours, please post your method in here so we can compare them and eventually pinpoint the fix. Thanks.
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I had a similar problem with my old iPAQ hw6515, and a Motorola V3. The contacts on the battery don't spring forward as well on an older phone as they do when it was new. I shimmed the battery. I did this by taking a business card and holding it against the opposite side of the battery from the contacts I traced the battery's profile and cut it out. I scotch taped my new shim to that side of the battery, then re-inserted it. This forces the battery up against the contacts better and in many times resolves inoperable phones, failure to charge, and spontaneous rebooting issues.
-Jay

My replacement tilt (first one had a bad USB connector) died Sunday.
Had it on the charger, looked down, red LED. Back of phone was pretty
warm. Pulled the battery, SIM, memory card, slammed the battery onto the
battery contacts rapidly 5-6 times, put the SIM, memory, battery back into
it, and it charged up. Did a hard reset. Battery was 100% charged, I turned
it completely OFF when I went to bed. Got up, battery was 0% drained!
Red LED again. Did the rapid thingy with the battery again, orange charge
light came on.
Called at&t warranty replacement. When I told her I had a red LED, she didn't
even ask me to do anything else. She just asked for the IMIE number and shipped me another one.
Maybe the 3rd one will be the charm LOL.......
I'm beginning to think that HTC doesn't stand for "high tech computes" but
"high tech CRAP"....

Maybe you guys got the margin of error productions? I know its really unlikely that you could get them again after a replacement but it is possible, and it maybe your computer. What do you think could be making this things go crazy? Overly protective anti-virus, I know, I know but it could do things secretly and screw around like mine does and wont let me into sites I have been on before on the same app no changes . . . Well I hope you luck.

ok I just tried everything you guys said, but it didn't work for me
so as some of you have stated it must be the battery, so what I did is put it between my hands for about 1 minute and put it in and it worked again!
really weird... must be the heat?
well hope that helps the research
Cheers
Jay

No Battery, stuck at tri-color screen

I was flashing my phone repeatedly last night. I've read the forums and have done about 4 successful flashes already. The problem is, I've found a WM6 rom for the Wizard that I wanted better than the ROM already inside my phone, and I proceeded to flash it. But I left the computer and phone by itself so that I could rest a bit (I've spent hours in front of the computer flashing my phone), and fell asleep. When I woke up, I noticed that the flashing failed, and it was at the tri-color screen. Then, it died on me. No battery, obviously, being stuck at the tri-color screen the whole night. Now, it doesn't charge or turn on. I know I just need a battery to run the phone. But where I'm from, batteries for the Cingular 8125 are rare, and I'm one of the few that has an 8125.
I don't know anyone who has a battery for the 8125, and there's nowhere to buy from here. Any recommendations?

First of all be sure that you haven't flashed a G4 ROM in a G3 device (or vice-versa) which would have made it a brick.
In case you haven't screwed up the bootloaders then look for the battery jump start thread that teaches how to revive a dead battery
good luck

ianestradalives said:
I was flashing my phone repeatedly last night. I've read the forums and have done about 4 successful flashes already. The problem is, I've found a WM6 rom for the Wizard that I wanted better than the ROM already inside my phone, and I proceeded to flash it. But I left the computer and phone by itself so that I could rest a bit (I've spent hours in front of the computer flashing my phone), and fell asleep. When I woke up, I noticed that the flashing failed, and it was at the tri-color screen. Then, it died on me. No battery, obviously, being stuck at the tri-color screen the whole night. Now, it doesn't charge or turn on. I know I just need a battery to run the phone. But where I'm from, batteries for the Cingular 8125 are rare, and I'm one of the few that has an 8125.
I don't know anyone who has a battery for the 8125, and there's nowhere to buy from here. Any recommendations?
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First os all your Wizard is not a brick. To revive your battery try using a wall charger to charge you battery, or you can leave it attahed to a wall charger for some time and it should start charging after 10-15 mins (becoz one i got a dead battery and did the same) Once the battery is revived then flash it to a Official ROM, afterwards any custom ROMs or what so ever. I hope i helped. TC

i've the same problem!!! i leave the phone attached the whole night to the charger...but it was in bootmode, so it doesn't charge!!! it hasn't the power to flash my phone...when it arrives to the 85% (when the phone write into the flash memory) it reboots.....what must i do? i tried to jump start...with a 12v adapter...but nothing....

It won't charge in Bootloaders,as it doesn't provide any charging circuit .The phone must have and boot up to a working OS (Windows) to start charging,only then it has a charging circuit.
Try to get a fully charged batter ,may be borrow it from a friend or try to charge your battery with friends phone,flash a rom and only it'll start to charge.

i know....but...i have not a friend with a ppc like mine!!!! and even if i'll buy a new battery....how can i charge it????? a friend of mine has a qtek 9000....but the battery is different from mine.......

F0ll3 said:
i know....but...i have not a friend with a ppc like mine!!!! and even if i'll buy a new battery....how can i charge it????? a friend of mine has a qtek 9000....but the battery is different from mine.......
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No need to buy a battery i say you use a External Battery Charger. Because even buying it would be cheaper then the battery itself and would help you in future too. I hope i helped. TC

Thanks
xda2_haseeb said:
First os all your Wizard is not a brick. To revive your battery try using a wall charger to charge you battery, or you can leave it attahed to a wall charger for some time and it should start charging after 10-15 mins (becoz one i got a dead battery and did the same) Once the battery is revived then flash it to a Official ROM, afterwards any custom ROMs or what so ever. I hope i helped. TC
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Thanks, dude. I never even tried charging it with the wall charger. There seems to be other people that have the same problem as I do. Now my phone is up at the tri-color screen, and I'm charging it, then Ill start flashing again. Thanks again!

No Problem but now remember if you find ppl with same problem (on the forum) dont forget to guide them to this Thread. And no need for the thanks. TC

zabardast_1 said:
It won't charge in Bootloaders,as it doesn't provide any charging circuit .The phone must have and boot up to a working OS (Windows) to start charging,only then it has a charging circuit.
Try to get a fully charged batter ,may be borrow it from a friend or try to charge your battery with friends phone,flash a rom and only it'll start to charge.
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Thanks, dude. I never even tried charging it with the wall charger. There seems to be other people that have the same problem as I do. Now my phone is up at the tri-color screen, and I'm charging it, then Ill start flashing again. Thanks again!
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@ianestradalives's as zabardast_1's has said, your phone WILL NOT CHARGE unless windows Boots. Either buy a new battery or find someone with the same phone or an Orbit(as they use the same battery) also if you buy a new battery it generally arrives with enough charge to use for flashing(It did for me anyway). The only other way to do it would be to buy a dock with a second battery charging slot. Using the wall charger wont do anything except stop it from restarting ,while its plugged in.
@XDA2_haseeb why point people who have the same problem to this thread, if the answer you have given is incorrect?

scousemartin said:
@ianestradalives's as zabardast_1's has said, your phone WILL NOT CHARGE unless windows Boots. Either buy a new battery or find someone with the same phone or an Orbit(as they use the same battery) also if you buy a new battery it generally arrives with enough charge to use for flashing(It did for me anyway). The only other way to do it would be to buy a dock with a second battery charging slot. Using the wall charger wont do anything except stop it from restarting ,while its plugged in.
@XDA2_haseeb why point people who have the same problem to this thread, if the answer you have given is incorrect?
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Dude, sorry to disappoint you, but his advice was correct. My phone is now up and running, and it has NBD 9.2. The advice he has given is correct. It works.

Ok,was your phone in Bootloaders (muliticolor screen) or with a working OS installed on it when you charged with a wall charger ?

That's exactly what was i was about to ask Zabardast_1
As there is no way he could charge his phone while it is in bootloader mode. He either had battery power already in it and messed up the flash or you have just been lucky when you took the battery out of the unit and reinserted it and there was enough power left to flash

zabardast_1 said:
Ok,was your phone in Bootloaders (muliticolor screen) or with a working OS installed on it when you charged with a wall charger ?
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In bootloader screen. If you were flashing a rom and it failed, you usually end up in the tri-color (aka "Bootloader") screen. Do what haseeb said (like I did) and plug your wizard to a wall charger and wait for a few minutes. When I plugged mine, it immediately lit up. Good hunting!

scousemartin said:
That's exactly what was i was about to ask Zabardast_1
As there is no way he could charge his phone while it is in bootloader mode. He either had battery power already in it and messed up the flash or you have just been lucky when you took the battery out of the unit and reinserted it and there was enough power left to flash
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Nope. I'm sure the battery was drained. The other night, my phone was in the bootloader screen THE WHOLE NIGHT. And yesterday, I tried reflashing, but it won't start anymore because of - obviously - no battery power.
IF you don't believe me, fail a flash and drain the battery. Then plug it into the wall. It really works.

scousemartin
YUP! thats very true.
The question here is 'How did he charge in Bootloaders with a wall charger',it has to have a working OS on it to start the charging circuit,which isn't present while in Bootloaders.
Flashing is a separate issue.

it will light up as it has power but it WONT CHARGE IT. You were LUCKY that's all and you had power in your battery. You just never realised it. If you want to prove us wrong let the battery go low and then try your revival attempt again. I guarantee you will be buying another battery or charging it somewhere else

also i have been through this personally with my xda mini-s and the only remedy was to buy another battery (or recharge it). You could leave your phone connected to the wall charger for a week and it wont make a blind bit of difference to the battery level. I know because i tried.
Anyway glad you got it sorted ,but the solution to your problem was not charging the phone. Thats all i have to say on this matter now

scousemartin said:
also i have been through this personally with my xda mini-s and the only remedy was to buy another battery (or recharge it). You could leave your phone connected to the wall charger for a week and it wont make a blind bit of difference to the battery level. I know because i tried.
Anyway glad you got it sorted ,but the solution to your problem was not charging the phone. Thats all i have to say on this matter now
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It did get sorted. But I am really sure about the battery thing. I guess this is an anomaly. Besides, the XDA is different from a Wizard.

lol the xda mini-s is exactly the same device a 8125 is, they re both wizards