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I upgraded my Cingular 8125 last night with the excellent 2.17 rom provided by summiter. All was looking great until I tried to connect to my wireless network (Linksys WRT54GX4 SRX400 router with WPA-PSK security). I entered the key and it tried to connect, but then my wireless network switched from "Available" to "Unavailable" and dropped to the bottom of the network cards list. I could click on the network and tell it to reconnect, but it would do the same "available...unavailable" sequence every time. Wondering if it was a bad flash, I reapplied the 2.17 ROM and tried again with the same results. Not to give up too easily, I grabbed the 2.16 iMate ROM and applied it to see if the Cingular customizations could be causing the issue. Same problem.
So I disabled all security on my Linksys, cleared the net card settings on the 8125, and tried to reconnect. No luck. My neighbor has a plain Linksys WRT54G, so I tried to connect to hers and it worked just fine. At this point, I had to go back to the stock Cingular ROM because I need access to my wireless lan. All works well with the stock Cingular ROM.
Has anyone else seen this behavior with the 2.x ROMs? I'm wondering if there is a bug in the wireless networking support in the updated version of WM5 or if it is some weird incompatibility with the new Linksys WRT54GX4.
-BK
edit: corrected the router model number
At this point, I had to go back to the stock Cingular ROM because I need access to my wireless lan. All works well with the stock Cingular ROM.
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Hey, does this ROM upgrade allow you downgrade. i have read stuff on this forum with people saying that they get an error "upgrade only" if they try to downgrade.
Way to keep the same topic going...start your own thread. :roll:
Unfortunately I don't have any feedback or value to add. I've connected successfully to a WRT54G, a Belkin Pre-N, and a Belkin Pre-N running Linksys WRT54GX firmware. No problems, but then again I use only WEP (I'm not overly concerned about the security of the traffic on this particular network, hence I use WEP instead of better encryption).
It's odd that with all encryption turned off you still can't connect. You don't by chance use MAC address inclusion/exclusion do you?
Yes, I normally use MAC filtering along with WPA to only allow certain devices onto the wireless network, but I disabled the MAC filtering for the same test where I disabled the security. The stock ROM works with both WPA and MAC filtering enabled. It's quite a strange problem. I must say that I find myself wanting the features of the newer firmware so much that I'm considering just not using the wifi connection anymore...
Thanks for putting the work into packaging the new ROMs for us. Cingular sure does drag their feet releasing their own updates.
-BK
my Cingular works good with Netgear WGR614 v5 & Linksys WTR54G
I've had the same problem with the updated roms. I'm running a D-Link 614+ rev b router using MAC filtering and no encrypton. My 8125 sees the router but it can't connect. I adjusted mty power settings but still no luck. I think everyone who has this problem should list their gear here so we can figure out a way to get around this problem.
I had WPA issues connecting my 8125 with my linksys WRT54G.
I'm in the same position as summiter, I'm really not concerned about the security of my home network, so I went back to WEP - which works fine. A combination of not broadcasting the SSID, MAC filtering, and WEP seems secure enough for my purposes.
I had the same problem after I updated my 8125's ROM. After many minutes of frustration playing with settings, I unplugged the router for a couple of minutes, and then plugged it back in and my phone began to work just fine. You may want to give this a try.
CameronJ said:
I had WPA issues connecting my 8125 with my linksys WRT54G.
I'm in the same position as summiter, I'm really not concerned about the security of my home network, so I went back to WEP - which works fine. A combination of not broadcasting the SSID, MAC filtering, and WEP seems secure enough for my purposes.
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It's more a matter of security through obscurity, since there are tools to both find devices not broadcasting ssid, and for cracking the wep key in a matter of seconds or minutes. On the particular WiFi net I use I assume everyone can see it and don't use it for sensitive stuff. MAC filtering can be overcome, but it takes someone determined and knowledeable, and I don't think my neighbors or the casual wardriver fit that bill. =)
Hello All,
This sounds like their is some settongs on the phone are set wrong, try changing the select network setting on the top bar select the second set of settings witch are I belive my work network, then soft reset the phone it should work it did for me but not until the soft reset. you my want to setup the connection again and reset again after putting in the key. I do use the newest 2.17 rom as well seems to be good so far.
I also used this to trouble shoot it. http://www.htcamerica.net/support/cingular_8125.htm
great source of help.
I think it is definitely something with the 2.X ROM’s and this router. I have the same setup and can’t get anything but the original Cingular ROM to connect.
Using Summiters excellent 2.17 with WRT54G with no problems on QTEK 9100.
porky145 said:
I've had the same problem with the updated roms. I'm running a D-Link 614+ rev b router using MAC filtering and no encrypton. My 8125 sees the router but it can't connect. I adjusted mty power settings but still no luck. I think everyone who has this problem should list their gear here so we can figure out a way to get around this problem.
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summiter
I'm having the same issue, i'm acutally using the same router as the person above, it will see the router but wont connect unless i reset the router. Plus it wont connect to any hot spots that it used to when it was on the old OEM cingular rom, so it must be something with the new 2.17 Rom. Did you make any changes in the WiFi settings?
please help us, i would love to keep the new rom on my wizard, it's so much quicker and it has all the extra bells an whistles.
thanks
Chiming in...
I actually found that the WIFI works better with the latest ROM (2.17/CF2, etc.) from summiter. There were networks that I couldn't connect to to save my life... now I can get in no problem.
Sorry you guys are having problems though.
marcini said:
porky145 said:
I've had the same problem with the updated roms. I'm running a D-Link 614+ rev b router using MAC filtering and no encrypton. My 8125 sees the router but it can't connect. I adjusted mty power settings but still no luck. I think everyone who has this problem should list their gear here so we can figure out a way to get around this problem.
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summiter
I'm having the same issue, i'm acutally using the same router as the person above, it will see the router but wont connect unless i reset the router. Plus it wont connect to any hot spots that it used to when it was on the old OEM cingular rom, so it must be something with the new 2.17 Rom. Did you make any changes in the WiFi settings?
please help us, i would love to keep the new rom on my wizard, it's so much quicker and it has all the extra bells an whistles.
thanks
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I can third this comment about he DLink 614+ and the DLink 524. My 8125 connects to the routers but then immediately locks up and I have to take the battery out to get it working again. I have not upgraded the firmware on either router so I might try doing that this weekend before doing anything. I know that DLink has upgraded some of ther routers due to some issue they had with NTP.
So far, I tested two routers with WPA: Linksys WTR54GS travel router and DLink DI-634M. And my workplace's wireless network using Cisco Access Points (54G) with no security (we use additional Cisco VPN in order to access network). All worked fine without issues. There are definitely changes in new wireless drivers. For one, it has a lot more parameters in registry. For two, it now supports LEAP. Thirdly, in the wireless networks window, it now shows signal strengths for each network. These are all positive improvements.
I haven't try to connect to a 11b router because I can't find one. Sounds like the issues are specific to DLink DI-614+ and the similar. If that's the case, time to get a new router. It's only $40 and you get much faster speed.
The router giving several of us problems is the Linksys WRT54GX4 SRX400, which is the latest MIMO router from Linksys...
-BK
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If that's the case, time to get a new router. It's only $40 and you get much faster speed.
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I understand what you are saying but I don't think thats the point. Replacing the router is easy, but what was changed in the rom to cause this problem. And if anyone wants to know Circuit City has G routers on sale, I got a WRT54G for about $65 out the door. But i would still like to know what caused this problem
I believe there is a difference between the network adapter driver from ROM2.17 and Cingular ROM. Anyone with network connection problem after upgrade to ROM 2.17 may want to try this:
Download and install WiFiFoFum2 from Aspecto Software, then run this program everytime you turn on wifi, it will help detect and connect to your network. I can't explain why but it works for me so I hope it would work for you too. My network is Dlink-524 with WPA enabled and MAC filtering.
I am running 217 ROM w/CF2,ringers,themes and A2DP on a O2 branded Mini and since loading the Cingular package above the WiFi does not connect.
Is there some patch? Machine works much better on Cingular network using the above package but I'd like WiFi back.
there is few of us with that problem, and noone knows the problem, but i think it's only in regards to some spcific routers like dlink 614+
Routers/AP
I got connected today to a Linksys running WEP but the same Linksys running WPA would not connect me. very strange. Numerous laptops have no issue in either configuration. Every AP I have tried works if security is disabled.
Hey everyone!
I've just bought a new at&t tilt and determined a problem. I couldn't connect to the internet through neither my home wireless router (netgear), nor any free wireless routers in the apartment building were I live. I connected the tilt to my router, but I wasn't able to acess the internet. I tryed to change different setting but everything was unsuccessful. After I called to at&t( probably 10 times or more) I was told that I can use the wifi connection only within certain special at&t "hotspots". Is it true? Can I somehow remove this restriction?
Thanks,
Mike
frosted tourist said:
Hey everyone!
I've just bought a new at&t tilt and determined a problem. I couldn't connect to the internet through neither my home wireless router (netgear), nor any free wireless routers in the apartment building were I live. I connected the tilt to my router, but I wasn't able to acess the internet. I tryed to change different setting but everything was unsuccessful. After I called to at&t( probably 10 times or more) I was told that I can use the wifi connection only within certain special at&t "hotspots". Is it true? Can I somehow remove this restriction?
Thanks,
Mike
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Not true. You can use any wi-fi - just like your laptop (assuming it's unsecure or you have the security code). Is your wi-fi turned on via Comm Manager? Are you using the stock ROM or have you flashed a new one? Is your wi-fi set up correctly via Comm Manager (search for Comm Manager and WLAN setting on the forum).
frosted tourist said:
Hey everyone!
I've just bought a new at&t tilt and determined a problem. I couldn't connect to the internet through neither my home wireless router (netgear), nor any free wireless routers in the apartment building were I live. I connected the tilt to my router, but I wasn't able to acess the internet. I tryed to change different setting but everything was unsuccessful. After I called to at&t( probably 10 times or more) I was told that I can use the wifi connection only within certain special at&t "hotspots". Is it true? Can I somehow remove this restriction?
Thanks,
Mike
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I had the same problem when I got my tilt. After just fiddling around it started to work and I really didn't do much that would make a change.
Use the connection manager and try the wireless settings to make sure it sees your wireless networks.
Power it down and turn off the cell portion and just have wifi running.
I too am having problems with WIFI on my new Tilt at my home location. I have flashed the stock HTC rom (WWE rom: 1.56.405.5 / radio: 1.27.12.11) and everything on the device works perfectly. Even before that I had tried to connect using the AT&T rom, still no luck. I can get the WIFI to connect and stay active, but when I open up internet explorer or opera mini I cannot get any pages to download. I can get a connection from other places that have wifi, both secured and usecured networks and the Tilt's wifi works fine. I have other WIFI devices connected to my home wireless router and they work perfectly. I have tried playing with all the settings on the phone and even on the wireless router, still no luck.
Any help greatly appreciated.
Thanks
I just tried your suggestion about turning off the phone side of the Tilt, and having wifi running, still no luck.
You are not alone
I had the same problem as you. I tried different configs on my router. I could not even connect to other open wifi spots. I was finally able to connect after flashing to another rom with a different radio. I have tested about five roms so far. Wifi worked most of the time. I am using Dutty's 6.1 and it is working like a champ now. It seems as though many stock Tilts have that problem.
I may be wrong, but I think I remember reading somewhere that the rom and radio version do not really effect WIFI?
I got my WIFi working! First I updated the router through Netgear. Then I went to a friends house that uses a secured router as well. Then I slid the WIFI to 'best performance'. Then I successfully connected to internet at my friends house. Then I came back home, signed in to my secured router, and voila! It works like a charm now. Pretty fast too.
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I had the same problem as you. I tried different configs on my router. I could not even connect to other open wifi spots. I was finally able to connect after flashing to another rom with a different radio. I have tested about five roms so far. Wifi worked most of the time. I am using Dutty's 6.1 and it is working like a champ now. It seems as though many stock Tilts have that problem.
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what radio version do you have? i have unbranded version but i still having the same problem... br
My Fix
So I had the same problem. Could not connect to home network after ROM. Go to "wireless manager" at first the icon for wifi would not allow selection. I selected bluetooth, closed it, then wifi could be selected. then select settings in wireless manager, if your network is unsecure, just next, next, finish. I was then connected. hope this helps someone out.
I've had a few problems with wi-fi. I've seemed to narrow them down to using unsecure/secure networks. I've found that my Tilt doesn't like to play well with "B" unsecure. Tested this with an older D-link, and Linksys "B" router. Haven't really had any problems with "G" networks.
frosted tourist said:
Hey everyone!
I've just bought a new at&t tilt and determined a problem. I couldn't connect to the internet through neither my home wireless router (netgear), nor any free wireless routers in the apartment building were I live. I connected the tilt to my router, but I wasn't able to acess the internet. I tryed to change different setting but everything was unsuccessful. After I called to at&t( probably 10 times or more) I was told that I can use the wifi connection only within certain special at&t "hotspots". Is it true? Can I somehow remove this restriction?
Thanks,
Mike
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Hi, I've had my Tilt for a while now, and I just updated to the new WM6.1 ROM this morning. However, after the upgrade, I could no longer get the wifi to work. I can connect to the wireless networks (tried different networks both open and secure), but when I try go to a website or use the internet, it just sits there and then says cannot connect. I have tried everything I can think of to fix the problem. I tell it to connect through work and through the internet, and messed with some other setting but that wouldn't do it. I plugged the tilt into activesync and it used the computer's connect just fine. Anyone having or had this issue, or have any suggestions?
Chris
Did you install the remove hidden proxy CAB?
If not, go here and get it:
http://www.4shared.com/dir/6996097/3f1f5d36/cabs.html
It's the removeHiddenProxy4CWS_0522 file
There may be others that do the same thing.
I installed the hidden proxy cab on my tilt, and the wi-fi still isn't working. Any other suggestions on fixing this problem. It's killing me. I though I'd be able to upgrade and reinstall all my files in just over an hour before I ran into this issue.
Update: Okay, I reverted back to the previous WM6 ROM and the wifi worked with absolutely no problem right off the bat. I don't understand what the issue could be and whether anyone else is having the problem. I'm going to try the WM6.1 ROM one more time, and then give up. I have to have wifi because I'm not willing to fork out money for a data plan. Any solutions or suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
change the power mode for the wireless mode to 'Best Performance'. This worked for me. Start -> Settings -> Connections -> wireless lan -> Power mode -> Best Performance.
Work Around For Wi-Fi Problem
I have found a work around for this and have tested on my "Tilt" which works 100% for the windows mobile 6.1 rom. On your device go to start, settings, connections then click on the connection icon then manage existing connections. Create on new setting on top of Media Net settings which you will have two connections. Name it Cingular GPRS, Enter Cingular GPRS, then Cellular Line (GPRS, 3G) for your modem, click next access point name wap.cingular, click next then User name [email protected], Password encrypted. The only thing you need to do is when using the internet & text messaging to have settings set on bullet mark Cingular GPRS. When using MMS only check check bullet mark for Medit Net and have proxy settings enabled at all times which will not affect your Wi-Fi connection to browser the internet once you switch back to Cingular GPRS in your settings. https://www.wireless.att.com/suppor...tutorialsCategory=MEdia+Net&tutorialId=614410
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I have found a work around for this and have tested on my "Tilt" which works 100% for the windows mobile 6.1 rom. On your device go to start, settings, connections then click on the connection icon then manage existing connections. Create on new setting on top of Media Net settings which you will have two connections. Name it Cingular GPRS, Enter Cingular GPRS, then Cellular Line (GPRS, 3G) for your modem, click next access point name wap.cingular, click next then User name [email protected], Password encrypted. The only thing you need to do is when using the internet & text messaging to have settings set on bullet mark Cingular GPRS. When using MMS only check check bullet mark for Medit Net and have proxy settings enabled at all times which will not affect your Wi-Fi connection to browser the internet once you switch back to Cingular GPRS in your settings. https://www.wireless.att.com/suppor...tutorialsCategory=MEdia+Net&tutorialId=614410
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Hi, I tried you solution several times, but still could not get the problem fixed. I guess I am just resolved to going back to the WM6 ROM. Thanks for the info though.
@abhijitray: I already tried changing the power settings when I first began having problems, so that's not it.
i have the same problem with my Tilt. But i found that when i connect to my PC with the USB cable, ActiveSync is on, my IE works fine. With Wifi connection, IE is still dead.
maybe an off topic question, but what does the new rom have that the original rom that came with the tilt doesn't? anyone have a link or something, or is it something like better batter performance? thx
i have tilt with the latest official WM6.1 ROM, and have no issues with Wifi.
Ok - here's my story.
I had a default WM 6.0 Official ROM Tilt and upgraded to ATT's 6.1. Immediately my WiFi stopped working. I waited for updates on this thread, and with my temper rising at such a poor release, I decided to go to Dutty's 6.1 Hybrid. Same thing - Wi-Fi didn't work. (To qualify, it would connect and get an IP address, but any attempt to access the net - ping, ftp, Gmaps, Activesync - would fail) I upgraded to the latest eMo radio and still didn't work. I scratched my head and decided to check my router. It's an older D-Link 802.11b and sadly the last firmware was released in 2005. I changed the settings on it to not use Turbo mode and voila, it connected. All happy and such.
But now the problem is slightly different. It will connect once, but after it disconnects (either because I manually turned off WiFi on the phone or the phone entered Standby mode) I cannot connect again. I literally have to reboot my router. This is great a home, but I worry when I have to use a public wifi hotspot. Any thoughts on that?
And yes, I have played around with the power settings.
Kojak
another thing I have noticed on my router is that my Tilt is not sending a hostname along with the DHCP request. Could that be the issue on the WiFi connection? I am wondering if that confuses the router.
Tom
I have the same problem too. tytn II with latest rom. At home with my old linksys which is a 802.11b device. If i disconnect wifi and then try to connect - the phone say - Unavailable. I notice that if i change the channel the phone connect just fine.... very strange
ps. sorry for my bad eng.
pasole said:
I have the same problem too. tytn II with latest rom. At home with my old linksys which is a 802.11b device. If i disconnect wifi and then try to connect - the phone say - Unavailable. I notice that if i change the channel the phone connect just fine.... very strange
ps. sorry for my bad eng.
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I see the same here - I think that by changing the channel it reboots/resets the router and allows you to try again.
ps. don't worry about your english. If this board was in a different language, I am sure that most people here would not even be able to post a thing.
kojak_nyc said:
Ok - here's my story.
I had a default WM 6.0 Official ROM Tilt and upgraded to ATT's 6.1. Immediately my WiFi stopped working. I waited for updates on this thread, and with my temper rising at such a poor release, I decided to go to Dutty's 6.1 Hybrid. Same thing - Wi-Fi didn't work. (To qualify, it would connect and get an IP address, but any attempt to access the net - ping, ftp, Gmaps, Activesync - would fail) I upgraded to the latest eMo radio and still didn't work. I scratched my head and decided to check my router. It's an older D-Link 802.11b and sadly the last firmware was released in 2005. I changed the settings on it to not use Turbo mode and voila, it connected. All happy and such.
But now the problem is slightly different. It will connect once, but after it disconnects (either because I manually turned off WiFi on the phone or the phone entered Standby mode) I cannot connect again. I literally have to reboot my router. This is great a home, but I worry when I have to use a public wifi hotspot. Any thoughts on that?
And yes, I have played around with the power settings.
Kojak
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Well, your problem sounds exactly the same as mine (WM6.1 official). Maybe I should have tried a public hotspot, but it just wouldn't work on my home network (I even cut off the encryption and made it open). I downgraded back to WM6 ROM and everything working fine, so I guess no WM6.1 for me.
It is definite a router by router problem. Had problems with the D-Link but I tried it on a Buffalo 802.11g router running Tomato firmware, and I had absolutely no problems. That being said, this could be either a:
802.11b problem?
D-Link problem?
Something must have changed in the WM 6.1 code from WM6.0 as it pertains to WiFi. If only it was as easy as a toggle setting to fix.
For me, it was the opposite. I could get WiFi to work at my office on Mobile 6.0, but I couldn't get my network at home to work. I have a Wireless-N network at home, and even though I set it to B-G only mode, it still wouldn't connect. As soon as I hit WM6.1, everything was fine.
Unfortunately, this happens more than one would think with Wireless network equipment.
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It is definite a router by router problem. Had problems with the D-Link but I tried it on a Buffalo 802.11g router running Tomato firmware, and I had absolutely no problems. That being said, this could be either a:
802.11b problem?
D-Link problem?
Something must have changed in the WM 6.1 code from WM6.0 as it pertains to WiFi. If only it was as easy as a toggle setting to fix.
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Kojak_nyc,
You hit it on the head. It is a router issue, although its not limited to the D-Link router because I have a 2wire HomePortal 1000HW and it also doesn't work. It is also on 802.11b, so that could also be the issue. Something must have changed between in the settings the WM6 and the WM6.1 upgrade. I'll go ahead an inform HTC of the issue (not that they'll do anything).
I believe that the once the tilt is updated to WM6.1, it no longer works on IEEE 802.11b.
I think this is a Dlink issue. I've got a linksys router at home and it connects to that fairly quickly. ssid on that isn't hidden cuz i've got vista machines that have a hard time connecting.
anyway, at work i've got a dlink di624, 802.11g, router and i've not been able to connect the kaiser to it. i think tomorrow i'll do what was suggested and just play around with the channels and find which works. the dlink's set to automatically choose the channel it uses so i'll hard code it for a channel i know the kaiser'll scan for and then see what happens.
if it doesn't work i'll juts keep using the 3g connection... i do have 6GB/mo and haven't come anywhere near using it up.
Experienced similar problem just now. I just upgraded to WM 6.1 and my WiFi connection's been unstable since last night. I have a wireless router with excellent signal on my room and enjoys streaming video before I upgraded to WM 6.1. When I reset the phone it restored WiFi connection again.
Hope you could share some tweaks to resolve this problem.
Thanks.
Hi
I just received a new note from rma, everything looked to be working fine, except wifi internet.
With my previous note i had no problems, connected to my router and had internet through it.
With this new note it connects to the router without any hiccups, i can even use the phone to move my computer's mouse over wifi, but i don't have internet access on the phone.
I installed Gerret's miui rom as soon as i took the phone out of the box so i'm not even sure if it also had the problem with the original rom but i did turn it on with the original rom and i think it did not have.
Anyway, i tried to give a static ip to the phone on the router settings (a TP Link TL-WR1043ND), i tried changing the wifi channel, tried it with wpa and open. It always connects to the router, but i never have internet...
I have another android phone and i put a mobile card in it and turned on the hotspot on that phone, connected the note to that phone through wifi and i do get internet on the note that way ... so it looks it is a problem with my router and this newer note version. :/
Any ideas to fix it?
Thanks
Ok, got it working after updating the router's firmware. xD