Hi all
I have a BA upgraded with WM5 (Helmi 1.3 with 16mb page pool & 32mb ramdisk)
now after much reading i have started to install apps onto the ramdisk but for some reason the ramdisk is full with just 0.11mb free.
all of the files on there including cache dirs only amount to 2.53mb
so i have a couple of questions
does anyone know where the rest of the space has gone ?
is there a tool or program to help clean or wipe the drive so i can just copy the apps back onto it again ?
thanks
You might check to see if you set your Inbox settings to save attachments to the Storage Card.
Without using some 3rd party software such as Tweaks2k2 or a registry edit, checking the box to save attachments to the Storage Card actually creates a folder in the Ramdisk area.
I'm not sure if this is accurate or not, but I wonder if the OS looks for a storage area alphabetically. Since Ramdisk precedes Storage Card alphabetically, the saved attachments folder is created in the Ramdisk space.
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Big thanx,,,, I'm an admirer of Indian Profissonal Works. Someone Cooked the rom and the other fixed my Mobile's board geniusly.
but still I have a problem/s.
1- Some programmes like MMS composer is only installing on the device ,, there is'nt any options to install it in any other disks
2- If I installed any programme in my SD card something weired happened !!
the SD card volume decreased,, the Storage of my device decreased and the programme volume decreased... !!!! why and how !!!
3- How can I merge the Storage and Programmes memories of the device ( not of the storage card ) togther to get only one with a big size..!!
4- what is the benefit of the ram disk can I do some manipulations with it to make my device faster !!!!!
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I have to install many medical books as well as some programmes such as Wisbar's, Resco Pack ( Explorer, Veiwer, Recorder ) , Real & Core Players , MMS Composer and some dictionaries .... etc.
Really 30 mb is not enough...
Another issue,,, I've been searching and exploring everything I can possibly explore to find where the 4 mb of the MMS composer is ?? but I unfortunately found nothing... where a hell it goes !!!
lastly, As I mentioned in the thread above,, I do not need the Ram disk and I need something / ideas to make it useful ?!!
First of all, "Program Memory" is not a place where you can put files. It's required by programs to run, just like RAM is required by your desktop computer. The RAMdisk is RAM used as a virtual storage card. What is called "Storage Memory" is flash memory. This is the root file system, and it's persistent. That means that if you hardreset your device you'll lost everything that's on your RAM (RAMdisk) but not what's on your storage memory. Unfortunately, it is small (32 MByte) and slow, whereas the RAMdisk is very fast. You should install all your programs on RAMdisk, otherwise you will not have enough space and your device will slow down. There's one other thing called "Pagepool". It's a part of RAM used for caching, so that program run faster, but you do not need to worry about it.
So, you can't merge Program Memory and Storage Memory. Both are required by your device to run.
What happened to your SD card is quite strange. Try to format it with a sd card reader on your desktop, and check if there are errors on it.
As far as I know, you won't be able to install the MMS software on RAMdisk or SD card because it needs to be in the \Windows directory to run.
Thanx Brother
Everything is clear now ... but Still there is questions to be asked later hahahah
Oweida said:
I have to install many medical books as well as some programmes such as Wisbar's, Resco Pack ( Explorer, Veiwer, Recorder ) , Real & Core Players , MMS Composer and some dictionaries .... etc.
Really 30 mb is not enough...
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I do not need the Ram disk and I need something / ideas to make it useful ?!!
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1. you do need RAMdisk:
-it's faster than SD card or Storage
-it keeps Storage clean
-in any decent ROM it IS both hard and soft reset persistent, unless you format it at hard reset.
2. 30 MB is more than enough for almost anyone. See http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=338270
I currently have 18 MB free storage with lots of installed programs, plugins, navigators, dictionaries and so on. If I'd really cared, I could probably clean up more.
Hello there,
I have quite an amount of strange folders in \windows - these can't be opened or deleted.
On open TotalCommander says 'either not signed or component missing'.
I have always installed software to internal storage and my system storage is down to 14MB left...
Any idea what these are? Will I have to hard reset?
It's a German T-Mob CompactIV / original T-Mob ROM.
Thx
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Hello there,
I have quite an amount of strange folders in \windows - these can't be opened or deleted.
On open TotalCommander says 'either not signed or component missing'.
I have always installed software to internal storage and my system storage is down to 14MB left...
Any idea what these are? Will I have to hard reset?
It's a German T-Mob CompactIV / original T-Mob ROM.
Thx
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looks like a corrupted filesystem to me. I had this a few times with my SD card on my HTC trinity. Usually it happened when I played around with some of the speed optimizations that changed the blocksize etc. of the SD card.
ok - but if these were corrupted files, shouldn't this have at least some impact on the system itself? It's running great - no errors...
So what did you do with your sd - reformat I assume?
Only to have tried it I installed and ran f-secure -> no virus found (but also no access to these folders)
ok - as somehow my phone started to go totally gaga -> hard reset
- strange folders gone
- went from 14 to 65MB
Hey guys,
some time ago I've tried to free some space from my internal memory, so I've chosen several files to remove in my \windows directory, like ringtones, 007 trailer and some .cabs of default installed programs. Overall size was about 90MB, what is pretty nice while I had like 100MB free space on internal. I know these files can't be just deleted, so I've prepared fake files with the same name, but zero size and I did these steps:
1. backup of chosen files
2. rewrite old files with new files of zero size using Total Commander
!! BUT !! when I did so, free space of internal memory was always the same (even after restart)
3. so, when I saw it had no effect, I restored original files from backup back to the \windows folder and I was shoked when I saw 10MB of free memory
4. as a last step, I've changed these files again with those zero sized and I had the free space back
Now I have the same amount of free space as I had at the beginning, but with zero sized fake files instead of original files.
I want to ask:
a) why my method did not work??
b) how can I really free up some space?? (by removing those useless files)
c) where is the "ROM image" located?? I mean .. if I'll change those original files with fake files and I'll do hard reset, what will happen? Will be those original files restored from some hidden ROM image or are they necessary to keep (for any reason) in \windows folder?
Thank you for any ideas.
FYI I am using stock R3A ROM.
C'mon ... I am sure somebody knows the answers. I've already read several threads about deleting files in windows folder, but all of them were about overwriting files with new, fake files. There were nothing about free memory. And also I can't find the answer on my third, probably most important question
c) where is the "ROM image" located?? I mean .. if I'll change those original files with fake files and I'll do hard reset, what will happen? Will be those original files restored from some hidden ROM image or are they necessary to keep (for any reason) in \windows folder?
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Any help is appreciated.
on wm there is a flash area
devided into 2 places 1 is storage
1 is rom
rom is read only after one flash the firmware
you can overshadow files in the rom flash with empty files
but they don't mean they are not still there
but it's don't matter because files on rom don't take up storage space at all
they take up rom space it's 2 seperate "partitions" if that makes something you can understand better
only way to truely remove files from the rom flash is to cook a rom without them
and even if you do that that will not give you more storage space as it's 2 seperate spaces
so basicly you're barking up the wrong tree for more storage
Thanks man. This answer is absolutely enough for me, now I understand it much better.
I'm a bit out of space on my Diamond with only 14. Mb of memory on the Main memory so i got tired of receiving Low memory notifications every 30 seconds whenever i browsed the internet ,so i went and looked what can be deleted and found under :My Device/Windows- a Tom Tom navigation install file 11.mb in size which must have been there since i got the phone .........which obviously i can't delete .
So my Question to you is what program should i use to delete that file and others (like PvP Player.exe which is useless....).
Move Tomtom.
You should be able to run tomtom from storage. I copied to storage and run from there.
Shouldn't need to use the main memory storage for tomtom..
Can't do that ,either the file is only copy/beam /send and it's stored as i said above . I can't cut it .
I WANT TO DELETE IT. please tell me a way/ or a program that can delete files from the Windows directory.
most files in windows dir are not located in storage but in the rom itself and can only be removed by cooking a custom rom but mind you storage space and rom space don't share MB's so freeing rom MBs don't add MBs to storage
I'm very confused about the storage on my Moto G 2nd Gen 2014, running stock KitKat.
If I look at System Settings - Storage, for the Internal Storage it shows Total 5.51GB, Available 1.08GB, Apps 6.06GB (what!), Pictures 7.09MB, Audio 220KB, Downloads 24.49MB, Cached data 389MB, Misc 316MB.
Link2SD - Storage Info shows the same 5.51GB Total, 1.08GB Available for Internal /data and SD Card /storage/emulated/legacy.
When I look with ES File Explorer, it shows 5.51GB Total and 4.43GB Used for my internal SD (/storage/sdcard0 or storage/emulated/0). However, checking the properties of the folders, they don't add up to anything like that and if I run SD Card Analyst with Root Explorer and Show Hidden Files enabled and tap Directory Analyse it finds a total of 735.78MB, with Apps being only 42.30MB, Others 460.79MB, Audio 194.90MB, Picture 15.19MB, Document 17.79MB and Video 4.82MB. In the folder view sorted by size it shows Android 402.12MB, Recordings 109.34MB, voix 82.82MB, TunnyBrowser 50.58MB, com.alk.copilot.mapviewer 27.20MB, Download 24.41MB, six more folders under 10MB and 40 more under 1MB, with about half of those showing 0.00B.
So can anyone explain what's going on here, as I'm completely baffled?
Just bumping in the hope someone will see this who can help me.
Depending on how an app works when it stores it's data on the microSD it can still show in the Settings>Storage as on the internal memory (WoT Blitz did this when I had that installed) so that can make your apps look like you have 6.6GB on the internal memory, also in a file explorer the directory in which Android, DCIM, Music, Ringtones ect. is not the 'top most' directory, in ES File Explorer you can hit the '/' (also called Device) in the top bar and there are a load more files there. If you do a 'Select all'>Properties does that come close to the 4.4GB space used?
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Depending on how an app works when it stores it's data on the microSD it can still show in the Settings>Storage as on the internal memory (WoT Blitz did this when I had that installed) so that can make your apps look like you have 6.6GB on the internal memory, also in a file explorer the directory in which Android, DCIM, Music, Ringtones ect. is not the 'top most' directory, in ES File Explorer you can hit the '/' (also called Device) in the top bar and there are a load more files there. If you do a 'Select all'>Properties does that come close to the 4.4GB space used?
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Hmm, I am using Obb2SD to move all my game data from Android/Obb to the external SD card, so maybe that's confusing it but that seems like it could be a problem as if it think the internal storage is full even when there's really plenty of space free, I imagine it will start throwing up errors and won't allow me to store anything else on it, which rather defeats the point of moving the games in the first place.
If I do select all->properties from / that includes my external SD as well and totals 46.42GB. Even if I unselect /mnt and /storage it still comes to 8.03GB which can't be just the internal storage as that's only 8GB in total and I supposedly have 1.43GB free on that. Just /data is 6.21GB.
You do know that your internal storage is a combination of your phone storage and internal storage right?
In case you didn't know just open root explorer and go to data folder (long press and select properties) and calculate how much storage it use...then do the same things with systems folder...then combined data storage + system storage + internal storage used and you will get almost the same amount like in settings/storages show you...
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When I say Internal storage I simply mean that which is not the external SD card. I don't know what the difference between phone storage and internal storage is though, as far as I'm aware there's just 8GB internal storage.
Checking the properties for /data shows it as 6.21GB (6.31GB Used), so I suppose with 1.08GB available that totals 7.39GB which could be close enough to 8GB to be correct. /system is 1.17GB. Still doesn't make any sense that Settings - Storage and Link2SD shows Total 5.51GB, 1.01GB Available but Apps as 6.06GB. Nor does it make any sense that the Homepage in ES File Explorer shows 4.28GB used on 0 but tapping that, which takes me to emulated/0 and selecting everything, Properties only shows 700MB used.
Doing directory analyse on /data shows the majority in Others 3.70GB, then Apps 1.95GB. It's a pain there's no way to see how much storage is used by each folder without checking Properties for each one individually but if I untick all the folders starting with a then the total is 4.06GB (4.15GB used), so there's about 2.15GB in those folders. Unticking all the folders starting with b through d drops it down to 2.07GB (2.12GB Used) so they account for another 2GB. Digging deeper I can see that /data/app uses 1.73GB, /data/app-lib uses 432.15MB, /data/data uses 1.25GB, data/dalvik-cache uses 717.77MB, /data/media/ uses 554.41MB, /data/sdext2 uses 272.20MB, /data/user uses 1.25GB and everything else is inconsequential. Adding those up comes to roughly 6.2GB, which exceeds the Total 5.51GB that Settings - Storage shows, even without adding the 1.17GB from /system.
None of this helps me understand what in those folders is using up all the space though, so does anyone know of an app that will show the space used by folder, like Treesize for Windows?
Can no-one help me make sense of this? The weirdest thing is that 0 (Internal storage) in ES File Explorer's Home screen shows 4.28GB but opening that folder and selecting all the folders gives a total of only 700MB, which doesn't make any sense.
I see that Titanium Backup can produce a list of apps sorted by space used, so I'll try adding those up manually and see what they total. I have linked a few large apps to the external SD with Link2SD though, so they shouldn't be using any internal storage and I'll have to subtract their amounts from the total.
Well I decided to wipe data and dalvik-cache (i.e. factory reset) from TWRP and start again, to try and get to the bottom of this.
TWRP showed about 370MB out of 5.51GB used after wiping. After booting, this was about 560MB (I guess due to the dalvik cache repopulating, currently 258.98MB) and by the time Google Play had finished updating the pre-installed apps, this had risen to 1.27GB.
The majority of this, 1.17GB, is in /Data. Settings - Storage shows 4.24GB out of 5.51GB available. ES File Explorer is a bit stupid, as it shows the same in the Homepage the same for 0 (i.e. 1.27GB used out of 5.51GB) but tapping that links to emulated/0 (which is just an alternative path to /storage/sdcard0), which only has a total of 4.32MB in it. What the Homepage shows is actually the used space from root (i.e. /) so it should show and link to that, not /storage/ emulated/0.
Another anomaly is that /data/data and /data/user are alternative paths to the same place, containing 230.99MB, which results in it getting counted twice, so really there's only a total of 965.51MB of files in /data, not 1.17GB. Obviously as /data/data grows, that's going to result in even more space being doubly allocated and thus unavailable, i.e. if I have 1GB in /data/data, it's going to reduce my free space by 2GB.
I also notice that /data/app contains all the apks for the apps that are installed. I thought apks were just install packages, like Windows msi or exe installs and that when installed they unpacked to somewhere, so isn't it just wasting space keeping all of the apks here? It's only 357.19MB at the moment but when I checked it before I factory reset it was 1+, maybe 2+ GB, so that's obviously a lot of space to waste out of 5.51GB.
Hopefully someone can help me clear up these questions, as I don't want to start reinstalling all my apps yet if I might need to wipe it all again to reset it. I've backed up everything with Titanium but it's still quite a hassle, as there doesn't seem to be a way to make a list of installed (as opposed to backed up but not installed, or frozen) apps before wiping and then restore just those afterwards, so I'll have to go through the list and try and remember what I didn't have installed before and de-select those.