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G4 Curiosity

THIS IS NOT A THREAD ON HOW TO UNLOCK YOUR DEVICE
Ok, rather than crapping on Faria's thread, I am going to start a discussion. I am curious about the G4. Yes, I know curiousity killed the cat. So far, reading the forums we have some people with G4's that can upgrade no problem, some that had to CID unlock to get certain roms to load (Faria's), and some that even after CID unlocking the ROMs will not load the extended rom. Personally, I fall in the last category.
Now, here is what had made me curious: So far, most IPL/SPL I have seen posted about is 2.21.0001 for the G4. Mine, on the other hand is 2.25.0001. So, for thos that have G4s, make a post about your IPL/SPL, if you had to CID unlock, HOW you unlocked, and your measure of success. Faria and I were discussing the possiblity that more is tied to the IPL/SPL than on the G3s. Or they are using tighter security. So if we have people with IPLs of 2.21.0001 that can load the full ROM after CID unlocking, and those that have 2.25.0001 that get the OS, but not the extended rom..it gives us a clue.

cptcafne said:
THIS IS NOT A THREAD ON HOW TO UNLOCK YOUR DEVICE
Ok, rather than crapping on Faria's thread, I am going to start a discussion. I am curious about the G4. Yes, I know curiousity killed the cat. So far, reading the forums we have some people with G4's that can upgrade no problem, some that had to CID unlock to get certain roms to load (Faria's), and some that even after CID unlocking the ROMs will not load the extended rom. Personally, I fall in the last category.
Now, here is what had made me curious: So far, most IPL/SPL I have seen posted about is 2.21.0001 for the G4. Mine, on the other hand is 2.25.0001. So, for thos that have G4s, make a post about your IPL/SPL, if you had to CID unlock, HOW you unlocked, and your measure of success. Faria and I were discussing the possiblity that more is tied to the IPL/SPL than on the G3s. Or they are using tighter security. So if we have people with IPLs of 2.21.0001 that can load the full ROM after CID unlocking, and those that have 2.25.0001 that get the OS, but not the extended rom..it gives us a clue.
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I have a G4
I am
IPL 2.17.0001
SPL 2.17.0001
GSM 02.07.10
OS 2.17.7.2
I am still CID locked, and have not attempted to perform any ROM upgrades yet
I want to CID unlock my device so that i can do a rom backup to the SD card before attempting any kind of ROM upgrades.
How did you unlock your G4 device?

d0ug said:
I have a G4
I am
IPL 2.17.0001
SPL 2.17.0001
GSM 02.07.10
OS 2.17.7.2
How did you unlock your G4 device?
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Imei website. search for it

imei did it for me
IPL/SPL = 2.17.0001 which means I have a G4.
I ended up paying for unlocking at the imei website but it did the trick and solved my issues where previously i could only get the Mr Clean ROM upgrade to work. Other ROMs would only update the splash screen and the Extension ROM.
Yesterday I successfully updated to Faria's latest RC1 ROM with no issues.

cptcafne said:
Imei website. search for it
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Thanks, I knew of the site, I just wasnt sure if it was a CID unlock or only SIM unlock. There was a post this morning about it only being a SIM unlock.

I got a CID-LOCKED G4:
IPL 2.21.0001
SPL 2.21.0001
OS 2.26.10.2
GSM 02.25.11
I succesfully installed:
RUU_Molski.Biz_226102_22610105_022511_G4_WWE-30MB
RUU_Molski.Biz_226102_22610105_022511_G4_WWE
Couldn't install:
RUU_Molski.Biz_AKU2.3-226102_22610105_024711_WWE-G4-30MB-CF2
Installer said something about compatibility issues
Didn't dare trying to install Faria new rom yet.

IPL/SPL 2.25.0001
CID locked G4
Extension ROM locked and empty after a failed flash with the official 2.25 ROM on HTC site, can't get anything to install into it. I've since learned to live with it and hope Cingular/HTC will release a newer ROM update that will fix this issue. I'm actually looking into upgrading to a 8525 but those suckers are a bit pricey at the moment so staying with my 8125 for now.

My G4 with bootloader 2.16.0001 had unlock with imei-check.co.uk. You can do it at the same site for 20GBP and U can successfully install any ROM (shipped or custom) without bootloader (I mean IPL/SPL). I recommended to stay in your current latest version of official ROM's bootloader and you will not have any issue.
Nishad

evilito said:
IPL/SPL 2.25.0001
CID locked G4
Extension ROM locked and empty after a failed flash with the official 2.25 ROM on HTC site, can't get anything to install into it. I've since learned to live with it and hope Cingular/HTC will release a newer ROM update that will fix this issue. I'm actually looking into upgrading to a 8525 but those suckers are a bit pricey at the moment so staying with my 8125 for now.
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That is exactly what happened to me!! Tried the HTC rom, and it killed my extended rom. crap. ok so HTC did this to us. I wonder how many other members tried the "official" rom and it crashed, therefore have not been able to get any extended rom loaded.

Same issue here with the extended ROM and 2.25.0001
The shipped ROM for cingular 8125 would fail.
Had to cook my own ROM and manually put the Extended_ROM folder in root and run the AutoRun.exe from phone to load it.

I was trying to find the way, how to cook a ROM, whitch will work on CID-locked Wizards and I thing: On CID locked phones we can flash only ROMs with nono edited os.nb without IPL/SPL
Example:
I have had a 2.21 ROM a I was able to flash 2.26.10.2 ROM without any changes.
If a decrasing the Pagepool, the the ROM was not working on CID locked

cptcafne,
I am sure you have seen my posts in faria's thread, but I will add my woes to this thread as well.
I have a 2.25.0001 G4 Wizard.
After doing the CID Unlocking through IMEI, I attempted to load faria's beta 4 rom. The ext rom has never installed for me. I think I might have tried installing the rom image from the htc website over the rom that shipped since I thought the HTC rom was newer (I was wrong). I belive this locked my ext rom from the get go. After testing it, I wanted to go back to the cingular 2.25 offcial rom to have a stable base to install the RC1. However, I got when re flashing the 2.25 rom I receive the invalid nb.nkf error message.
If Broken has cooked is own extended rom which has worked on his G4, perhaps a seperate G4 ext rom file is the resolution that faria should seek if there is no success in automating the process in the flash.
I wonder if the locking of the ext rom is an HTC or Cingular thing. Either way I wonder if they have the ability to tell us how to unlock the ext rom?

G4 unlocked by IMEI
IPL/SPL 2.16.0001
Radio 2.47.11
ROM 3.0.0.0 WWE
Faria's 8mb ROM installed without any problems (including the ExtROM) been running OK for about a week and only the occasional soft reset.
Installed over wizard Love 2.26 ROM

hello,
G4 Not unlocked :
IPL/SPL 2.17.0001
No rom upgrade possible

G4 2.17.0001
Qtek 9100
IPL/SPL 2.17.0001
CID unlocked by the IMEI UK site.
Running the latest 3.0.0 RC1 Faria ROM - no issues with the upgrade.
Prior to CID unlock I could only upgrade the splash screen and the ExtROM.
I haven't had the nerve to attempt an IPL/SPL upgrade - not even sure what benefits it would bring.

In this thread (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=249359&highlight=unlock+extended+rom) there is a way to unlock the extended Rom. However when I do this, all I see is the cingular ext rom files that are installed during the "customization" process. I am wondering if Cingular is in fact locking the ext rom so that no matter what ROM is flashed the ext rom will always contain the Cingular programs and files that were shipped with the phone.
I have yet to see a user with an IPL/SPL of 2.25.0001 be able to install any ext roms.
Jason

fla242 said:
hello,
G4 Not unlocked :
IPL/SPL 2.17.001
No rom upgrade possible
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are you sure your device is G4????? cuz ipl spl are ends with .001 not .0001

Awais said:
are you sure your device is G4????? cuz ipl spl are ends with .001 not .0001
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Just to clarify, G4 devices have an IPL/SPL of 2.xx.0001. If the IPL/SPL do not appear in that format when you reset your device than you have a G3 device.

jpryor said:
cptcafne,
I am sure you have seen my posts in faria's thread, but I will add my woes to this thread as well.
I have a 2.25.0001 G4 Wizard.
After doing the CID Unlocking through IMEI, I attempted to load faria's beta 4 rom. The ext rom has never installed for me. I think I might have tried installing the rom image from the htc website over the rom that shipped since I thought the HTC rom was newer (I was wrong). I belive this locked my ext rom from the get go. After testing it, I wanted to go back to the cingular 2.25 offcial rom to have a stable base to install the RC1. However, I got when re flashing the 2.25 rom I receive the invalid nb.nkf error message.
If Broken has cooked is own extended rom which has worked on his G4, perhaps a seperate G4 ext rom file is the resolution that faria should seek if there is no success in automating the process in the flash.
I wonder if the locking of the ext rom is an HTC or Cingular thing. Either way I wonder if they have the ability to tell us how to unlock the ext rom?
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Yeah, that is what looks like happened. so far from what I seen on the boards, if someone tried to install the HTC Update and it failed, then the ext rom was locked. or even removed, I am not sure.
Jpryor said:
In this thread (http://forum.xda-developers.com/show...extended+ rom) there is a way to unlock the extended Rom. However when I do this, all I see is the cingular ext rom files that are installed during the "customization" process. I am wondering if Cingular is in fact locking the ext rom so that no matter what ROM is flashed the ext rom will always contain the Cingular programs and files that were shipped with the phone.
I have yet to see a user with an IPL/SPL of 2.25.0001 be able to install any ext roms.
Jason
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Are you sure ? I could have sworn that some members with 2.25.0001 were able to install custom roms completely. Can anyone confirm this for us ?

I have a G4, and the original IPL/SPL was 2.25.0001. I tried all the free options to CID unlock (they worked for SIM unlock), but not worked. So I paid the £20 to IMEI-Check for the unlock key. With that I fully CID unlocked my device.
I installed the stock T-Mobile USA 2.26 ROM, and now my IPL/SPL is 2.26.0001. (I switched carriers from Cingular to T-Mobile, but prefer the 8125's keyboard to the MDA's, so I wanted to keep my existing device.)

Qtek 9100 and upgrade to WM6

I downloaded Viet4 and run upgrade, on welcome screen on PC during upgrade it does not correctly detect my Wizard and shows as ROM 1.0.0 and for new version it says only blanks.
After upgrade device just boots to previous version of the ROM (2.26). What am I doing wrong?

Let me be the first one to say it before someone else does... Read the Wiki
Joking aside, you need to give more info such as do you have a G3 or G4? Did you CID unlocked your device? The error you have given usually meant that your device is CID locked.

artisticcheese said:
I downloaded Viet4 and run upgrade, on welcome screen on PC during upgrade it does not correctly detect my Wizard and shows as ROM 1.0.0 and for new version it says only blanks.
After upgrade device just boots to previous version of the ROM (2.26). What am I doing wrong?
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sounds like you didn't CID unlock before trying to flash a rom that didn't come from your carrier.
and the upgrade tool will not have the right info in those fields. If your phone is unlocked the upgrade will work properly. Make sure you use the correct procedure based on whether you have a G3 or G4 phone.

I have G3 device
I have Qtek 9100 which was never locked of course. Then I installed ROM and radio upgrade with versions below
ROM version: 2.26.10.2 WWE
ROM date: 6/7/06
Radio version: 02.25.11
Protocol version: 4.1.13.12
Hardware:
CPU:OMAP850
Flash chip type:M-Systems
What do I do now?

artisticcheese said:
I have Qtek 9100 which was never locked of course. Then I installed ROM and radio upgrade with versions below
ROM version: 2.26.10.2 WWE
ROM date: 6/7/06
Radio version: 02.25.11
Protocol version: 4.1.13.12
Hardware:
CPU:OMAP850
Flash chip type:M-Systems
What do I do now?
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What is your IPL/SPL. And how do you know it was never locked? Have you personally unlocked it? Have you ever flashed any rom that was not from your carrier successfully?
If you have a G3 (ipl/spl 2.26/2.26) then I suggest following the full unlocking tutorial thread that is stickied. Trust me your phone is acting like a locked phone. If you haven't personally unlocked it then just humor us and do this. You will be amazed at the results.
If you have a G4 (ipl/spl 2.26.0001/2.26.0001) then you will have to use the pay website to unlock your phone. There is no other known way to unlock G4 devices at this time.

I assume since it was bought in Russia and branded as Qtek 9100 then it was not locked. Is it possible that ROM upgrade to Cingular ROM actually locked my phone?
SPL 2.26/2.26
I going through downgrade right now and then do CID unlock. Do I have to do SIM unlock as well? How do I know if device is unlocked?

artisticcheese said:
I assume since it was bought in Russia and branded as Qtek 9100 then it was not locked. Is it possible that ROM upgrade to Cingular ROM actually locked my phone?
SPL 2.26/2.26
I going through downgrade right now and then do CID unlock. Do I have to do SIM unlock as well? How do I know if device is unlocked?
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SIM unlock will allow you to use any sim from any carrier without getting an invalid sim error. If you aren't getting this error already you should be ok not doing it but it doesn't hurt to do it since you are in there with Lokiwiz already.
The tutorial tells you to do the SIM unlock first then do the CID unlock.
once you are completely done don't forget to flash up to a 2.x rom (2.26 T-Mobile rom suggested) before flashing a custom rom.
At this point when you flash the custom rom your OS and possibly GSM will change (IPL/SPL may change if you use a rom that includes them)
You should be good to go once the CID unlock process is done completely.

I used Unlock and CID Unlock, both went fine. Now IPL 1.01 SPL 2.26 OS 1.5.4.2.
Do I need to upgrade to 2.X before upgrading to WM6 or I can run upgrade the way it is now? Do I need to upgrade IPL (whatever it is to 2.26 as it was before?)
THanks,

artisticcheese said:
I used Unlock and CID Unlock, both went fine. Now IPL 1.01 SPL 2.26 OS 1.5.4.2.
Do I need to upgrade to 2.X before upgrading to WM6 or I can run upgrade the way it is now? Do I need to upgrade IPL (whatever it is to 2.26 as it was before?)
THanks,
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Right now you need to install the button rom again to get both IPL and SPL to 1.05. At that point you can flash back up to 2.26 and then to a custom rom of your choice.
The reflash of the button 1.05 rom is to ensure that you are truly unlocked. you will see that both IPL and SPL go to 1.05 -- this is good
The flash to a carrier 2.x rom is so that you have a good 2.x bootloader and don't inadvertantly flash a 2.x rom without bootloaders into 1.x bootloaders which will cause all kinds of issues.
Yes, you must flash a full 2.x rom before flashing the wm6 rom. The T-Mobile 2.26 is the recommended rom as it has the latest bootloaders available.
Then you go to the rom of your choice and enjoy
I know it's a pain in the behind but it is tried and true

Thanks,
This worked. The only issue now after I installed WM6 it starts installing some T-Mobile crap which appears belongs to 2.26 ROM I installed before. How can I clean install of WM6 without any T-Mobile stuff?
Thanks,

artisticcheese said:
Thanks,
This worked. The only issue now after I installed WM6 it starts installing some T-Mobile crap which appears belongs to 2.26 ROM I installed before. How can I clean install of WM6 without any T-Mobile stuff?
Thanks,
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Might have to flash a rom that has an empty extended rom before going to the one you went to. My guess is that the rom you flashed did not include an extended rom and when you flashed it the customizations ran from the previous roms extended rom since it was still there.
Faria's 3.3 v2 has a settings chooser menu so you can select settings for whichever network you are on but that only sets up MMS/GPRS stuff, and doesn't install any carrier specific apps.

Never mind, I recovered using some old iMate ROM. The problem now is that iMate ROM updated SPL/IPL to 2.16 while I had 2.26 for both before. Is it ok to run with 2.16 or there might be some issues? What is SPL/SPL are used for?

artisticcheese said:
Never mind, I recovered using some old iMate ROM. The problem now is that iMate ROM updated SPL/IPL to 2.16 while I had 2.26 for both before. Is it ok to run with 2.16 or there might be some issues? What is SPL/SPL are used for?
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2.16 should be fine. It is 2.xx and that is what really matters.
The issue that some people encounter is flashing an AKU2 or higher ROM into 1.xx bootloaders and have all sorts of issues, phone won't charge, radio doesn't show up, pda works but phone doesn't, battery drains quickly and no way to recharge, etc.

One question before flash

Hello, Few months ago I have flashed my G3 wizard from stock orange 1.XX to
ROM called Cingular_RUU_wizard_217_AKU2_WWE_CF2_A2DP-FIXED
(I have unlocked CID before doing that - I am not sure about what unlocker I've used - lokiwiz or awizard)
Now, after reset I have
cingular splash screen and:
ipl 2.17
spl 2.17
gsm 02.07.10
os 2.17.7.2
I would like to flash to one of Faria ROM, what should I do?
- directly go to Faria ROM?
- Use awizard (or lokiwiz?) and unlock it again and then go to Faria ROM?
- Downgrade to 1.XX (posted somewhere here on xda), unlock with awizard(or lokiwiz?), go T-Mobile 2.26 ROM, and then go to Faria (after flashing to T-mobile there is no need to unlock again?)
Thanks for any answers.

You don't have to CID-unlock again, but I would flash T-Mobile 2.26 first to get your IPL/SPL to 2.26. After that flash a WM6 rom.

Thanks for your replay.
Please tell me one more thing, can I go now directly to this t-mobile 2,26 or should I downgrade first to 1.XX?

you should be OK to go straight to any ROM you want, but it is better to flash the t-mob first, you only need to flash the button ROM (1.5 i think) if you have problems. any problems follow the lokiwiz sticky

Big thanks guys, everythig went fine.
No I am playing with Faria WM6
Thanks again.

How to unlock CID?

Hi all. Tried and tried in vain, to replace the T-mobile splash screen, only to find out that the phone is CID locked.
Managed to upgrade to WM6 though, thanks to vlodeck and nocturne.op.15
Here's the phone details:
IPL: 2.06
SPL: 2.06.0000
GSM: 02.19.21
OS: 10.2.0.8 (WM6 by vlodeck & nocturne)
Oh, and also worth mentioning, my PC is running on Vista Ultimate, on which RUU's don't work. But some people said that if I install VMWare Virtual PC and install XP on that, RUU works through it.
So, how to unlock CID of this phone?

Wish I knew!
I'm in the same boat, so please can someone advise, thanks.

to cid unlock to need a ver. 1.xx of ipl/spl. And seeing you have 2.xx you cant really downgrade to ver.1.x

but can you told me whats rom have ispl ipl 1.x??

ok so saying you have ipl 1. what ever how do you cid unlock?

ftp://[email protected]/Up...er_1120223_11202110_11220_T-MobileUK_Ship.rar
will have ipl and spl ver 1. wherever you can get to install or not, might work with a noID ruu. then you can use lokiwiz2 to unlock the CID

There are rom versions that have 1.xx IPL and SPL but from my own experience I know, that once you upgraded to 2.xx or more, you cant get back to 1.xx. The most you can get is 1.xx IPL and 2.xx SPL.
Cheers,
vlodeck.

So, What ROM we must flash? To have 1.xx IPL and 2.xx SPL?
Maybe offtopic, but I have another question: If I have ROM from ERA GSM POLAND can I flash AKU3.3 TMobileUK ROM?
Charmer community is so small.... ;(

adexxx, you misunderstood me. You can't get 1.xx IPL and 1.xx SPL once you've already upgraded to 2.xx.
If it's an official ROM then you can flash it no problem. If its a custom ROM, use the tool I described in WM6 charmer thread.

When I tried to update with RUU: RUU_Charmer_38221_382127_026921_TMO_HR_WWE_Ship it showed error: INVALID VENDOR
What I'm doing wrong?

use wizard noID upgrade utility. it's some around here, maybe even in charmer forum.

OK, I flashed and it works fine.
Now I have 3.0 IPL&SPL, my 1st splash was changed.
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MDA Vario Cid Unlocking / Rom flashing

Hi,
I have a sim unlocked MDA Vario (T-Mobile), but i want install any custom rom to it. I have followed this guide http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=298613 but instead lokiwiz i used the aWizard-V1_3beta2.zip. At the first step i downgraded my phone with Xda_MiniS_LaunchROM_v154102. I used the u function for the cid unlock after my device is restarted. But i cannot flash any rom into the device. I still get the 302 error. My device is still Cid locked? After the cid unlocking i got IPL 1.xx and SPL 2.xx after i reflashed with the buttopn 1.05 and the t-mobile 2.26 after i get the 302 message when i tried to flash a different brand rom. My original is IPL 2.26 / SPL 2.26 ROM is 2.26
Strange.... I compared the two dumps from two programs aWizard-V1_3beta2 / Lokiwizardb2 /lock_backup.bin before unlocking and cidunlocked.bin after unlocking/ is the same in the two programs. The question is? How possible the patched dump which is the lock_backup.bin is the same as the secondly patched lock_backup? The soft is not really pathcing?
What is wrong?
Thank You,

You're not CID unlocked yet. You need to flash and reflash the XDA_MiniS rom or the button ROM until both your IPL and SPL are 1.xx and then CID unlock your phone. Sometime it takes a few time (up to 7 times or more) to get both your IPL and SPL to 1.xx so be patient and keep reflashing until you are successful. Once you're successful, or think you are, download and run Wizard Service tools (google for it) and click on CID actions to verify that you are actually CID unlocked and then flash back to the t-mobile ROM. After that you should be able to flash any ROM you want.

Thanks... Your method is working great....

Can't Downgrad SPL 3.08
Tried 9 times now to flash the Button Rom to downgrade and I get the IPI to 1.05 (or 1.01) but the SPL is still stuck on 3.08. Any suggestions to download so I can unlock the CID?
thanks
Marcio
IPI 1.01
SPL 3.08
GSM 1.12.10
OS 1.5.4.2