Sorry for this question.
Where OperatorCode is important?
I can see only difference in BaUpgrade.exe. So we have to use SetOperator or MaUpgrade_noID.
Enywhere else? Roaming? Any ideas. I was using my BA (TuMa 1.3) with fake operator code ERAPL, and there wasn't any difference.
If there is no meaning - could I suggest our great RomMakers to have common OperatorCode in your ROMs? For example: XDADEVEL?
As you perfectly know, but might forget, "Normal users" flash their devices with only shipped upgrades donwloaded from official operator/brander sites.
Also, upgrade utility won't let U flash your device using rom with different opcode, (officialy for safety precautions) becouse the branders (qtek, i-m8) and the operators want to keep their customisations, and all the crap that come with their roms. If there were no opcode, every user would flash rom he likes, but some unexperienced users could flash wrong one and finish with messing the device.
That's why the opcode was invented and appiled.
AFAIK the SIM card doesn't even know which phone model are U using, so the opearator.
I don't know if this answer is what are You expecting.
Last thing is.. Who of our "power users" care about opcodes? That's deeplily in-rom and has nothing to do with it.
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Hi all, im new to android and i recently purchased a samsung galaxy S. i come from htc windows mobile and i need help understanding the different components of ROM in the galaxy S/android.
right now i have
PDA: I9000XXJF3
Phone: I9000XXJF3
CSC: I9000XAJF3
basically, i dont really understand what are those things. Im assuming phone=modem/radio, and pda=ROM revision.
1.what is CSC?
when i downloaded a new ROM from samsung-firmware, there is only one file in it, which is PDA.
2.do i need all 3 components to ensure the phone is usable after flash?
3.can i mix and match any phone and csc file from different ROMs?
4.im trying to get my phone to work in china, is there any region specific PHONE or CSC file that i should use, or can i just use any Europian files and they will work automatically in china?
5.is there some kind of HSPL thing in android phones i need to take care of before flashing so i wont brick my phone?
i find them really complicated, in htc windows mobile phones, there are only 2 things to consider and they are straight forward. Radio ROM is what it is, Radio. and there is the ROM version, which is straight forward as well. and they can be mixed and matched as long as the phone model is the same. no region problems. can someone help me to understand this from a windows mobile user perspective please? thank you.
Hi
I'm newbee too - and it seems that we are on our own, since nobody here answers Q unless the Q is top dollar relevant :-(
I've f/w updated my Galaxy S Gt-i9000 twice.
I did it PRECISELY as described in the "how-to-doc" that U-ll find on Samsung-firmware. And YES; they say use PDA if there's only one file.
What I did, was looking carefully at the printed screens in the how-to-guide.
CSC: Language-something.
PDA: ...?
After fW update I "reset-to-factory". Don't know if thats needed. Maybe it resets original fw? Does it load settings/fw from ROOT.... Don't know; but would like to know if somebody would be so kind.
Kindly (but...)
I think the reason for no answers is that they have already been answered in the forum.
Frezore is right. Questions like that stay unanswered because they have been asked 100 times before. I'll make an faq thread tomorrow morning.
Basically:
CSC is country specific code. It's some app as well as settings for 3G network providers and things like that. However, as of now only russian and region independent CSCs are available with the newer ROMs. In order to get internet on your phone in china you'll have to enter the APN manually. Info like that varies per provider and its easily found using google.
The phone file is what you would call the radio rom.
The PDA is the ROM. The software/firmware. It include android and all the apps that get installed along with it like samsungs touchwiz and swype.
It is preferable to update all three at the same time, however, not always necessary. An outdated modem (phone) firmware might result in compatibility issues (although very unlikely) and old CSCs can cause problems if the apps are outdated or apn settings are wrong.
However, CSCs, phone and pda files ate always distributed in complete packages so there really isn't abig deal.
There is no such thing as HSPL. Firmwares on samsung phones are installed using Odin (samsung-firmwares.com).
If you factory reset (just like on the wimo phones) you'll revert to the original settings of the rom/firmware you currently have installed. To get your phone completely back to factory settings you'll have to flash the factory rom that came with your device.
FAQ thread tomorrow.
Sent from my GT-I9000
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I think the reason for no answers is that they have already been answered in the forum.
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Sorry, but i not see any sticky about that, and yes, Im same like alexnvidia , old WM user, but dont know much, aka nothing, about Android, because it is relative new OS, and total otherwise than Windows Mobile.
Example: No where i cannot read, how i can enter in terminal mode on Galaxy ? No sticky, no wiki, no google, and nowhere...
Thanks any on answer forwarding
Best regards
miro666 said:
Example: No where i cannot read, how i can enter in terminal mode on Galaxy ?
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Terminal mode? It's a kind of Linux. Just download and install terminal software, there are plenty of them on Market.
Hi guys... A friend of mine has a Vodafone branded tab... But he wants to use it with a different operator... The question is... If i root the tab, and install a custom rom, will he be albe to use it with any operator he wants, or will he still be linked to' Vodafone?
Chances are it will work.
Backup as much as you can, then give it a try, I have a ATT branded SGT using TMOUS sim, works for me.
Make sure you have all the backups and the files needed before and after the change.
Best of luck.
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.. But he wants to use it with a different operator... The question is... If i root the tab, and install a custom rom, will he be albe to use it with any operator he wants, or will he still be linked to' Vodafone?
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You can do all those things but you will still be Vodaphone. To use any other carrier you will have to unlock your tab.
To do that you will need to find the thread by Rotohammer about unlocking the at&t or t-mobile or any gsm tab. You will need to have a pc and the android sdk installed, because you need to use the adb.exe application to do the unlock. It's easy to do but it's an intermediate skill level task.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=843323
Should also be asking questions in Q&A not the dev thread.
should work but backup before you do it. i mean using rom manager or any method backup the whole thing.
Why do people say this would work? Loading different ROMs will not unlock the tab. You'll need to get the tab unlocked. Then you can use different SIM.
Hi, i would love to have gingerbread but i bought a 2nd hand gtab 7 and its on region xsg and i live in Australia, it also does not state a pda or csc. When i plug it into kies current firware is blank and there is no option to update. If anyone has any ideas that would be great.
You need to find out, is it a gt-p1000, or a gt-p1010... If it doesn't use a sim card its a cdma tab and there aren't many roms to flash. If its a p1010 then you have a wifi only tab. No real way to play with it as there aren't many, if any, roms...
If you have a g1000.....
You need to go to the developement section and find a rom you like but before you flash, use the bootloader check.apk found in this thread - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=888071 to see if the bootloaders are locked. Then I'd suggest going to the rom upgrade tutorial found here - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1205990 .
You will find in this thread all the things you need to upgrade, ODIN, m rpit file and the safe rom.
From there you should be able to flash any rom you want whether its Overcome Kratos, Boca or any other. Just make sure its not a cdma,p1000l/n rom or for the p1010. These will brick your tab if you try to flash these...
If you have a CDMA tab then you will need to do some research as theres not many roms out there, I can't help as I've never flashed one of these and my knowledge is sketchy at best...
P1010 tab means no roms for you....
Good luck....
Thanks i have the P1000 but must i be wary that i am on region xsg and cannot display a pda or csc code?
Not really sure, if you root your device thn use a root explorer to find and backup your efs folder to your external(removable) memory card. It should have data inside that is your csc, imei and a few other things you might like to keep.
At the end of the day its really up to you if you wanna try to flash or not, I offer no guarantees as neither does the chefs, its flash at your own risk... There's help out there if you need it, however, as I tell everyone else, read up on what you need to do, then when you know, reread it again. Take it slow, do 1 step at a time so you won't miss anything (you'll feel a right **** if you don't untick or tick something in ODIN you were supposed to and it hangs at startup).
Also, if you know what the stock FROYO rom was, grab a copy and keep it on your pc. Its a hell of a lot easier to have everything you need at your beck and call then it is to have to find and download later...
I leave it in your hands...
Your Excellent ROM Flashing Explanation
Thanks for this simple, cogent response on flashing a ROM for the various Tab flavors. My head usually starts swimming when I try to understand how to do the deed, but your brief couple of paragraphs here lay out the process perfectly.
-- A happy P-1010 owner. No whining. It is what it is.
Device Carrier Region Type Kernel Android Size Description
One Optus AU MR 3.4.10 v4.2.2 99.7 MB 2.24.980.2
Hi all. For a while i have been looking for an RUU applicable to my phone in case i want to take it back to stock, or have some stuff up while flashing. Like to have such files on my PC.
Now, i found the above file on:
http://www.htcdev.com/devcenter/downloads
Under "Description" it has the (i think) firmware that is on my phone. Number 2.24.980.2
And the other labels are pretty self explanatory. However, under "Type" the file info is "MR".
Can someone enlighten me on what MR means??
I have downloaded the file (but am not going to do anything with it on my phone till i know what it is!!), and the file name is:
m7-jb-crc-3.4.10-445d072.zip
Opened it up and from the readme it looks like a stock kernel?? I'm not familiar enough with Android building to know.
Any feedback appreciated.
astmacca said:
Device Carrier Region Type Kernel Android Size Description
One Optus AU MR 3.4.10 v4.2.2 99.7 MB 2.24.980.2
Hi all. For a while i have been looking for an RUU applicable to my phone in case i want to take it back to stock, or have some stuff up while flashing. Like to have such files on my PC.
Now, i found the above file on:
http://www.htcdev.com/devcenter/downloads
Under "Description" it has the (i think) firmware that is on my phone. Number 2.24.980.2
And the other labels are pretty self explanatory. However, under "Type" the file info is "MR".
Can someone enlighten me on what MR means??
I have downloaded the file (but am not going to do anything with it on my phone till i know what it is!!), and the file name is:
m7-jb-crc-3.4.10-445d072.zip
Opened it up and from the readme it looks like a stock kernel?? I'm not familiar enough with Android building to know.
Any feedback appreciated.
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MR and CRC refer to ways in which the radio interference is managed.
MR is multi-way (multi-link, two-way) relay channel, essentially the device is assigned a signature which determines frequency modulation so that the tower can distinguish devices on a multi device environment. This allows many devices to communicate with a single node simultaneously.
CRC is cyclic redundancy check, this utilizes checksums to verify data integrity has not been compromised by interference from other devices.
Hope this helps. -Mike
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kibmikey1 said:
MR and CRC refer to ways in which the radio interference is managed.
MR is multi-way (multi-link, two-way) relay channel, essentially the device is assigned a signature which determines frequency modulation so that the tower can distinguish devices on a multi device environment. This allows many devices to communicate with a single node simultaneously.
CRC is cyclic redundancy check, this utilizes checksums to verify data integrity has not been compromised by interference from other devices.
Hope this helps. -Mike
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How to determine which one we should choose ?
Is it regarding our country (carrier) ? or regarding the technology used on our network ?
I ask that because using the filters on the devcenter/downloads website I can't find the good one for my phone.
Is there is a way to determine precisely the one to download given the country where I bought the phone and the country where I'm at the moment.
I work in several country and I'm originally from Europe, and I don't really get what difference there is in between all those file as enduser who travels like me does not have any issues buying a phone in a country and using it somewhere else .. I think a bit more clarity could be warmly welcome.
Regards
M1r077 said:
How to determine which one we should choose ?
Is it regarding our country (carrier) ? or regarding the technology used on our network ?
I ask that because using the filters on the devcenter/downloads website I can't find the good one for my phone.
Is there is a way to determine precisely the one to download given the country where I bought the phone and the country where I'm at the moment.
I work in several country and I'm originally from Europe, and I don't really get what difference there is in between all those file as enduser who travels like me does not have any issues buying a phone in a country and using it somewhere else .. I think a bit more clarity could be warmly welcome.
Regards
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The HTC Dev Center has software that developers use to optimize their phones. Sometimes, they post a ROM Update Utility (RUU) on the site for various phones. If you know your version number, that would be the version you want to use or the newer version for the same phone. First, look for the version number, then find the region to see if there is a version for that region.
If you are constantly moving about from country to country it would be best to have an unbranded HTC One, the Developers Edition or the international WWE. These would give you the most flexibility for updates and would have the latest radios installed.
Hi, I posted about this on another thread, but was then told that there is a forum for the S3. I would like to root my S3 mini GT-18190N, running 4.1.2. Its still under guarantee so it needs to be able to unroot.
Somebody mentioned CydiaImpactor, as it would be the easiest. So I installed to my mac, ticked both usb debugging and accept unknown sources, and ran the program. Within seconds I got an error, 'Error signature bugs unavailable'.......which I posted to the thread, and heard nothing from there and still havent about what that meant. I eventually found out that it means the bug has been fixed. But that is all I got.
I just wondered, what does that mean, does it affect any other ways of rooting? I found another rooting program on here, was given the the stock firmware for my phone but that needs to be unlocked. I did ask about whether the same problem would affect that firmware, but no answer. It seems the advice given on the first thread I started, about taking this to the correct forums needs to be done, which is why I am asking here. Sorry for multiple posting its not spam, its on advice from members on here.
I am a complete novice, never rooted before. So could anybody show me a root system that works for my phone.
Thank you
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Hi, I posted about this on another thread, but was then told that there is a forum for the S3. I would like to root my S3 mini GT-18190N, running 4.1.2. Its still under guarantee so it needs to be able to unroot.
Somebody mentioned CydiaImpactor, as it would be the easiest. So I installed to my mac, ticked both usb debugging and accept unknown sources, and ran the program. Within seconds I got an error, 'Error signature bugs unavailable'.......which I posted to the thread, and heard nothing from there and still havent about what that meant. I eventually found out that it means the bug has been fixed. But that is all I got.
I just wondered, what does that mean, does it affect any other ways of rooting? I found another rooting program on here, was given the the stock firmware for my phone but that needs to be unlocked. I did ask about whether the same problem would affect that firmware, but no answer. It seems the advice given on the first thread I started, about taking this to the correct forums needs to be done, which is why I am asking here. Sorry for multiple posting its not spam, its on advice from members on here.
I am a complete novice, never rooted before. So could anybody show me a root system that works for my phone.
Thank you
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hi bro, maybe i will buy this s3mini because i notice that it cost only 114.50 euro in my country, more than 50% less than the official price
so...
about root:
you can root the s3mini flashing the firmware with odin
else you can use cydia impactor(be sure to download the latest version from official websites)
i notice that samsung patched the masterkey bug exploited by cydiaimpactor in other galaxy phone but i dont know about s3mini 18190
however i rooted an s3mini of one of my friend s1 months ago, he has never made a firmware update and after he enabled debug usb and installed driver it work! and got root access on his phone, after root you CAN'T do ota update! you an use odin however maybe samsung upgrade to kitkat android 4.4
did you do some firmware update?
-Install TWRP (this video might be of help)
-enter recovery mode and reboot. TWRP will ask you whether you want to root or not
Hi, before I did anything I took a copy of the phone which I have stored on the laptop, windows 7. Then with CWM rooted the phone, and installed a ROM I found. The first time it didnt work, so I had to find another ROM, and install that. This ROM works but its not from my Carrier, which is EE/Orange. The Base version ends in AMJ2, which I dont seem to be able to find to get the correct ROM. The Build Number I have which is the ROM is DMod v6. It works, but its causing problems with Samsung. I have given hope of getting back to the original, but if I could get it to work with EE, it would be better. DModv6 is a US based ROM.
I hope I have explained it ok, its the first time I have done this, so not sure. Please ask for more details.
Sorry it took me so long to answer, have not been very well.
Thank you for your help
What do you mean by it not working with EE/Orange? What functionality do you not have?
Sent from my GT-I8190 using xda app-developers app
Mermaid Man said:
What do you mean by it not working with EE/Orange? What functionality do you not have?
Sent from my GT-I8190 using xda app-developers app
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As I have already mentioned, its a US based ROM, which only recognises T-Mobile UK. My phone keeps loosing the connection all the time. and I have to reconnect. T-Mobile UK is the US version of T-Mobile even though we have T-Mobile in the country, but without the UK at the end of it. And believe me it is not working properly. The phone itself does work, its faster, the battery life is much longer than when it was on EE. But I am also now having problems with Samsung, they have stopped me from using their software, because they say my phone is not using the correct software.
My first try, I did get Kit Kat running, but without the CAMERA, it wouldnt work. But there again, it was on a US based ROM, and had problems keeping the connection going. That was awesome but without the Camera, it was a bit useless. If I could get a ROM thet had either EE or Orange,
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As I have already mentioned, its a US based ROM, which only recognises T-Mobile UK. My phone keeps loosing the connection all the time. and I have to reconnect. T-Mobile UK is the US version of T-Mobile even though we have T-Mobile in the country, but without the UK at the end of it. And believe me it is not working properly. The phone itself does work, its faster, the battery life is much longer than when it was on EE. But I am also now having problems with Samsung, they have stopped me from using their software, because they say my phone is not using the correct software.
My first try, I did get Kit Kat running, but without the CAMERA, it wouldnt work. But there again, it was on a US based ROM, and had problems keeping the connection going. That was awesome but without the Camera, it was a bit useless. If I could get a ROM thet had either EE or Orange,
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Hey mate,
Try to use Maclaw's Recovery and KitKat ROM. They work perfectly! Flash Maclaw's recovery first (TWRP) and then wipe cache and dalvik and then flash the kitkat ROM (CM 11).
find them all here: maclaw.pl/downloads/ (stupid 10 post rule for new accounts doesn't let me post the link to HELP the user (johnmwc2)
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Also the reason that your phone has gone all crazy is because of the ROM you flashed (US version) probably only supports the US frequencies which is why you only get t-mobile network (in some places) as the frequencies change in each location as the phone masts give out different frequencies in different locations according to their surroundings (some frequencies penetrate walls much easier but may not go as far and vice versa).
Im 70% sure the ROM is the problem. the other 30% is me thinking maybe the ROM might not have anything to do with allowing the phone to receive phone signal ( in terms of SOFTWARE not hardware - before anyone tries flaming me). My other instinct tells me maybe its the baseband/modem version thats incompatible witht the US ROM?
just use Maclaws KitKat and TWRP!
They work a treat! :laugh: