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Urgent advice on what to do

Hi,
I've flashed my Vario with the Qtek update that has Exchange push. The thing is have I done the right thing, I just unlocked it and CID and then flashed it.
Having read the forums a bit it seems i should have preserved the T-Mobile radio update somehow and whatever else? How can I do this and also can someone direct me to the last release of the T-Mobile update as they have withdrawn it from the Website but if I just need the radio out of the ROM then it should not be a problem.
Please advise!!!

i dont understand why you need radio from t-bomile :roll:

I read that it has a newer radio version. From reading what other people have done it seems they've used the Qtek ROM but kept other aspects using a thing called aWizard which i havent.

You can run just about any ROM/Radio ROM mixture you want. I’m not sure what you’re worried about? Are you actually experiencing a problem? You didn’t mention that the device was running abnormally. If you have read of others using a diff Radio ROM it’s not because that’s what you’re “supposed” to do but rather others feeling that they get better results by using diff versions.
For instance, I have the latest test ROM on my 9100 and the radio signal was crap with the 1.13.x radio ROM so I downgraded to the previous qtek version. Then just for ****s & giggles I loaded the latest Cingular radio ROM and have found that this combination works best for me. My service is through Tmobile and I have not had a problem running any ROM or radio ROM just some work better than others FOR ME. It’s up to you to decide which combination you like best.
Hope that helps.

I like that... I need to remember this one "for ****s and giggles".

Wizard Radio Rom Only Updaters (Updated Topic)

Running this RUU will only update your Radio Rom. You will not lose any settings.
These are all in English.
2.x Radio Roms are for use with 2.x Bootloaders only.
They don't work with 1.x Bootloaders (IPL/SPL Versions 1.x). The good news is that since it doesn't dork your BootLoader if you goof you can still reflash with your original Rom and recover your device or use the Cingular 1.09.10 Radio Only Rom included here.
How To Use This RUU Package
1. Select the Radio Rom you want:v1.09.10 from Cingular 1.08 Rom.
v2.25.11 from the leaked Cingular 2.25 AKU 2.2 Rom. Several users have reported that this improves their reception.​v2.25.11 from the leaked Test T-Mobile (US) 2.24 AKU 2.3 Rom. It is also listed as version 2.25.11 but the file is not an exact match to the Cingular Radio Rom.
v2.07 from Summiter's Cingular 2.17 AKU 2 Rom, which was made using components extracted from a device with what is believed to be the mysterious Cingular 2.23 AKU 2.2 Rom.
v2.19.11 from the T-Mobile UK 2.21.0.206 Rom Release, for our European Brothers (and Sisters).
v2.19.11 from the T-Mobile Dutch Website, for our European Brothers (and Sisters).
v2.21.4 from the Xda Minis 2.24.4.101 Rom, for our European Brothers (and Sisters).
v2.27.11 Prodigy Radio Rom. As provided by ShogunMark.
​2. Download the Zip file.
3. Extract the contents into an empty folder on your PC.
4. Make sure you have established a usb connection with your device (Activesync as guest is okay)
5. Execute the RomUpdateUtility_Wizard_NoID.exe
6. Follow the prompts.
Don't worry it won't overwrite your existing Extended Rom, Storage Area or OS so the PDA side of your device will remain untouched.

Just wondering, isnt this the same radio rom thats in the new beta T-Mobile rom?
nickcerda said:
Just wondering, isnt this the same radio rom thats in the new beta T-Mobile rom?
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Reply by Kyphur
The version number is the same but there have been numerous reports of better performance with the Radio Rom from the leaked Cingular Rom.
So the answer is Yes and No apparently.
If you're not experiencing noticable issues then why bother flashing it. On the other hand it certianly won't hurt to flash it.
Reply by Gamescan
Before I build the "Mr. Clean" AKU 2.3 ROM I did both a binary compare of the T-Mobile 2.25.11 Radio ROM and the Cingular 2.25.11 Radio ROM.
They are *different* files and do seemingly get different reception. In testing on a WIZA100 device, the Cingular version was noticeably better. I haven't gotten around to testing on the WIZA200 yet, but I'm expecting to see the same performance.
As a result of the tests, I included the Cingular version in "Mr. Clean" and kyphur was kind enough to package it separately after people asked for just the Radio ROM.

I downloaded and used the radio update from this thread with no problems it only updated the radio and left my settings intact.
Thanks for the file I need the improved reception
R

Thanks for the Rom, 4 bars at my desk where I used to have 1.... T-Mo Vario

Well, I just ran the ROMUpdateUtility_Wizard_NoID.exe and it completed the installation with my settings intact (in fact, the install only too a minute, whereas the full T-Mobile ROM took well over 5 minutes to complete).
My 8125 is running the AKU2.3 custom Cingular ROM that already had the T-Mo 02.25.11 Radio version. So, I don't have any absolute way to say that the Cingular 02.25.11 installed successfully, guess I'll have to test the signal now
Thanks for the updated Radio ROM

tokuro said:
i just updated my MDA (1.x ROM). it's no good and i had no radio working. I could not even connect via AS.
I booted my phone to bootloader and downgraded to 1.13 and all is ok.
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Thanks for the report, I'll edit the Original Messege to reflect this.

Works OK on KJAM 2.16.9.1 stock
Hi there,
I installed Cingular radio 2.15.11 on K-JAM running stock latest image:
2.16.19.1.
It installed OK, works OK and so far reception seems better.
Thanks for all the effort providing that,
Hal.

gamescan said:
I know this goes against conventional thinking, but has anyone tried to flash this to a CID LOCKED device? I'm curious if it will work as it doesn't touch the OS or the bootloader. If it does work it'd be a must have upgrade for pretty much *everyone* out there.
My devices have long since been unlocked so I've got no way of testing it.
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Yep it will work. It's really just the initial and secondary program loaders that are affected by the CID.

Thanks, Kyphur, for posting the Radio ROM
Installed w/o any problem, runs also very well
Cheers
hrb

cingular radio > tmobile radio
I've tried both and I noticed that the cingular is better. Why? Because with the tmobile one my push email would never sync properly on the mda. The cingular is fast and perfect. How fast you might ask? Well my mda receives the notice of new email faster than my Outlook client. But the original tmobile rom, my signal never dropped below 2 bars. The cingular drops 2 bars but that's 60% signal from the reading I get from Voice command. But I've talked for longer than 10 minutes on my phone and it's worked just fine. Kudos to Kyphur for sharing this with us.

gamescan said:
mengesb said:
Hey kyphur,
Well, Summiter put in the radio rom from Cingular's 2.25.11, and I tell yah, I'm still suffering from the same problems. the only choice I have left is the original 2.17 radio code, which I guess I'll have to try once I get around to seeing my home computer - been mobile for 3 days, haven't even seen my own grass... sigh ...
AKU2.3 Radio rom based on t-mo ... failed wifi on pre-n
AKU2.3 Radio w/Cingular 2.25.11 ... failed wifi on pre-n
MengesB w/no Wifi on pre-n ... pre-n failed MengesB!
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Have you tried a different router? The one thought that pops to mind is that perhaps something in the firmware of the pre-n router isn't completely 802.11b compliant? After all, no 802.11n routers are final yet. It's quite possible there are still bugs on that end.
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I know officially the stack on Q.11n isn't official, but the router is set to be compatiable with both G and B flavors of Q.11 sequences. What's more disturbing is that it was working with 1.8.11 WWE (stock). I know the firmware in the router is good, works with a Dell TruMobile Wifi, Moto G Wifi, Centrino internal Wifi, and Broadcom Wifi cards... so we've been around the block with Pre-n connecting on a G and B platform systems - it simply does not like my phone. I do have the G hack enabled through Sum Sum, and tried removing it - no difference.
I haven't tried other G routers, besides my SRX100 router, and even with this one its spotty at best - requies disable/enable occassionally when it 'loses touch' with the AP.
I'm wondering if 2 hours of ethereal logs might be required to find out where in the Q.11 stack stuff is messing up. Networking is my ball of wax, and it doesn't make sense to me if a device ARPs for an address, and the device REPLIES saying, "Yeah sure buddy, here you go: x.x.x.x" and the device simply IGNORES it ... kinda confuses me - like a Cisco 2600 that just came back from repair and the stupid idiot soldered a jumper cause 'it was loose'... ugh... numbskull

has anyone in california had good signal with the 2.21.4 radio rom??

ERROR 300 INVALID UPDATE TOOL
Hi,
I've a i-mate k-jam with English rom 2.16.9.1 and radio 02.07.10
When I try to upgrade the radio with the: Cingular_2.25.11_Radinly I received the following erro:
ERROR 300 INVALID UPDATE TOOL
Many thanks

Re: ERROR 300 INVALID UPDATE TOOL
gerard001 said:
Hi,
I've a i-mate k-jam with English rom 2.16.9.1 and radio 02.07.10
When I try to upgrade the radio with the: Cingular_2.25.11_Radinly I received the following erro:
ERROR 300 INVALID UPDATE TOOL
Many thanks
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Is your phone CID Unlocked?

yes it is unlocked

similar problem....
I am on the imate rom: 2.16.9.1 WWE, radio 02.07.10
I have tried updating to the XDA MINI S Radio rom, and it seems to be succesful, however it still shows as radio rom 02.07.10
any ideas??

gerard001 said:
yes it is unlocked
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Next question, are you extracting the contents of the zip file into an empty folder? might you have extracted into a folder containing an unhacked version of the updater program and by mistake running it instead of the NoID version?

I unpacked to a new folder.
I think the problem is with the rom that we already have installed that "maybe" is bloking the update ?

kyphur said:
This is the Radio Rom version 2.25.11 From the leaked Cingular 2.25 AKU 2.2 Rom. Several users have reported that this improves their reception.
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Ok, well my problem has been fixed by using the cingular radio rom.
Successfully showing Radio Version: 02.25.11
maybe try that one gerard?

I will try it, but I think it's the same that I already used...
Thanks

Problems with WiFi (QTEK 9100)

Hi,
Ever since upgrading to 2.17 (official QTEK version) I can no longer get a stable WiFi connection - I get poor signal displayed even though I am next to the AP and it can take anything from 5 to 20 attempts to get connected.
The 9100 came with 1.6.7 installed which not perfect more or less connected first time, but I hoped the later ROMs would fix some other stability problems.
I have tried AKU 2.3 and I still get the same issues (plus I miss the battery indicator in the top bar).
Also, I cannot get back to 1.6.7 (I managed to get the OS back to it but the other 2 were stuck at 2.4) as every time I try I get vendor ID is wrong.
Any ideas?
Cheers,
Taomyn

I have the same problem, but even worse. I see the network after connecting it says it is connected but I cannot browse or do anything on the "socalled Internet" DHCP says that it found an adress in my case at home 192.168.1.33.
I am not sure if an upgrade would help.
My wifi version is 01.04.10
I am looking for any idea too.

Just an update, though the problem remains.
I have downgraded the OS to 2.17 as it seems better than the later ones posted and is at least a QTEK one.
Still hit and miss with the WiFi
Does anyone know if there are any later QTEK ROMS available?

search this forum to find a solution to downgrade the rom version to 1.x then do CID unlock using aWizard.
or you should try upgrade to cingular 2.25WWE rom to see if there is any improvement.

huangyz said:
search this forum to find a solution to downgrade the rom version to 1.x then do CID unlock using aWizard.
or you should try upgrade to cingular 2.25WWE rom to see if there is any improvement.
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I did try various of the downgrade tips but none seemed to work even though I've got a G3, so hopefully the LokiWiz will be updated soon to work on v2 ROMS.
The Cingular 2.25 ROM didn't work very well either and I hated the extra rubbish it comes with. The radio ROM I happen to be using was from that same one.
I suppose I could go for the 2.25 OS but not the Extension - would that leave behind the Cingular crap?

Taomyn said:
I did try various of the downgrade tips but none seemed to work even though I've got a G3, so hopefully the LokiWiz will be updated soon to work on v2 ROMS.
The Cingular 2.25 ROM didn't work very well either and I hated the extra rubbish it comes with. The radio ROM I happen to be using was from that same one.
I suppose I could go for the 2.25 OS but not the Extension - would that leave behind the Cingular crap?
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I now run 2.25rom without its original Extrom. It works perfect for me.

huangyz said:
I now run 2.25rom without its original Extrom. It works perfect for me.
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Thanks. I have now loaded the following but with the QTEK 2.17 Extension ROM:
IPL: 2.24
SPL: 2.24
GSM: 02.25.11
OS: 2.25.11.1
I will have to wait until tonight to try the wireless at home.
One thing I've noticed is that I don't have a battery indicator at all now, neither in the Today window or the bar at the top. I'll dig around more to see why this has happened.

Taomyn said:
huangyz said:
I now run 2.25rom without its original Extrom. It works perfect for me.
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Thanks. I have now loaded the following but with the QTEK 2.17 Extension ROM:
IPL: 2.24
SPL: 2.24
GSM: 02.25.11
OS: 2.25.11.1
I will have to wait until tonight to try the wireless at home.
One thing I've noticed is that I don't have a battery indicator at all now, neither in the Today window or the bar at the top. I'll dig around more to see why this has happened.
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it looks a little strange that you have a 2.25OS with 2.24IPL/SPL. :?
you could put a bat. icon on task bar by running Windows\Init_Tray.exe

Ok so I still can't get WiFi working :-( but at least I've sorted the the battery indicator out (thanks to a reg tweak for AKU2.2)
Which leads me to this AKU stuff. I keep reading about 2.3 but I'm not sure if this is an official release or something that someone has put together. I'm willing to give it a try but not if it's just 2.2 with some tweaks or something like that.
Can anyone shed some light on the AKU releases? Mine definitely says 2.2 at the moment.
Oh and can I simply create an upgrade file with just the 2.3 OS file in it?
TIA

Ok, my WiFi is still borked, it sees AP's all over the place but the ones I know it should connect to the phone just will not lock on to - it tries for a few seconds then simply says "Unavailable".
Currently I have on the phone a combination of:
IPL: 2.24
SPL: 2.24
GSM: 02.25.11
OS:2.24.10.1 WWE
Protocol: 4.1.13.12
ExtROM: 2.17.7.102
WM5 5.1.95 (14955.2.3.0)
I've actually tried what should have been a later OS, 2.25, but the AKU was 2.2 and the copyright message shows 2005 where as this one is AKU 2.3 with 2006 displayed.
I'm thinking now that perhaps the Extended ROM which is from the latest QTEK build I could find. Can anyone suggest a good replacement for it that doesn't have a load of baggage and only useful customisations?
As a last resort I'd like to try downgrading back to full 1.x ROM (QTEK 1.6.7 I think) but as I understand it this may not be possible. If it can be done, can anyone point me in the right direction i.e. which downgrade ROM to try? Yes, I have gone through this forum but it's almost "information overload" and very confusing,
TIA

if you update to shipped Cingular 2.25WWE rom, you can bypass all the extrom and see if wifi works normal (before you install other apps.)
Mine is ok.
the AKU2.3 one is a custom test rom which may cause slightly unstable.
while this still doesn't work, i think there's no means except sending your device back for checkup and repair.

Thanks, but how do I "bypass all the extrom"? Is there a clean extrom I can use with it?

Ok, I'm making progress.
I followed the instructions for downgrading, which although says it won't work for 2.21 or above, sort of does.
I downgraded to the custom 1.5.4 which succeeded but left SPL still at 2.24 but everything else had changed. I then ran the LokiWiz v0.2b and that seemed to succeed too at least there were no errors.
I then tested WiFi and it locked and connected first time - yay!!
Next I have taken the 1.6.7 QTEK ROM (which the phone originally had) and when that finished both IPL/SPL were downgraded to v1.x - WiFi still working.
At least now I know that WiFi is not borked but it's some strange ROM issue.
I'm going to try QTEK's 2.17 ROM and see what happens - at least I know I can get back to 1.x if it still doesn't work.
This is fun - not!!

Taomyn said:
Thanks, but how do I "bypass all the extrom"? Is there a clean extrom I can use with it?
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after the RUU completed and restart automatically, after those init setting you must follow(eg. align screen, select time zone, etc.), at the moment when u see "customize within 3 seconds", poke the reset hole as quick as you can. Then you Bypass the extrom installation.

Thanks - you are being a great help, it's much appreciated.
I went back to 1.6.7 then added the Cingular 2.25 OS ROM but with the QTEK 2.17 extended ROM. What a mixture that is! WiFi would not work. I then hard reset and used your bypass technique - WiFi now works.
It seems that an extended ROM application is screwing up WiFi so I need to get everything up to the latest and greatest, bypass the extended ROM then one by one run them to see which is the culprit.
The plot thickens......

Well it looks like *any* v2 ROM screws up the WiFi on my phone and I have no idea why :x I have tried various combinations of ROM parts (proving the phone is most definitely CID unlocked :wink: ) and I either have no WiFi or some which progressively gets worse as time goes on to the point it stops connecting again.
I'm back to the original 1.6.7 QTEK WWE shipped ROM and WiFi works flawlessly but I'm now missing all the nice tweaks of v2 and I'm sure my BT headset doesn't work as well as before.
Maybe the next release will be better :?

Just to conclude this thread. The 2.26 ROM recently released seems to have cured my WiFi woes and it has made my phone run so much better than before.
I recommend it to anyone

Taomyn said:
Just to conclude this thread. The 2.26 ROM recently released seems to have cured my WiFi woes and it has made my phone run so much better than before.
I recommend it to anyone
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Cheers!

wifi probs with 2.26
i just upgraded my MDA USA to this ROM. My wifi now doesnt connect. It was working fine with ROM 1.08. Any suggestions? I havent tried bypassing the ext ROM, will this work? thanks

Same problem here as above
I got same wifi problem when upgrading from 2.25 to 2.26 .
i am going to revert back to 2.25 which is from the imate website. and hope it sorts it.
will get back to you when done.

8125 Dropping Calls -- Radio ROM Upgrade?

Hello all,
I've upgraded my Cingular 8125 device to the latest official ROM from Cingular/HTC. These are my current versions:
ROM Version: 2.25.11.1 WWE
ROM Date: 5/11/06
Radio version: 02.25.11
Protocol version: 4.1.13.12
ExtROM Version: 2.25.11.102
However, I've noticed that at least once or twice a day when I'm on a phone call, my call is suddenly dropped! I have to wait a few seconds before I'm able to make calls again. My guess is that there is something funky going on with the radio version that I'm using. Is there a later (more stable) radio ROM that I could upgrade to? Notice that I have my device configured quite well and I wouldn't want to wipe it out entirely again (as I already did to upgrade to the latest 2.25.11.1 Cingular-approved ROM). Is it possible to just upgrade the radio ROM without having to wipe my device again? If so, which radio ROM should I upgrade to, and where is it available?
Thanks!
Ryan

Ignore all I wrote, was a bit uninformed
sorry

Look for the 2.47.11 Radio Rom in the Wizad FTP section.
Molski

For the life of me, I can't find that ROM on the Wizard FTP site. Could you please post the path? Thanks!

_Nomad_ said:
I'm afraid that there isn't any way to upgrade to a later radio ROM for the wizard, there are a few later versions embedded in various ROMs available at the forum though there's always a minority of ppl that do experience call dropouts now and again with all of these, so upgrading doesn'y guaranty a solution . Best bet would in my opinion still be to hard reset your device and start from scratch... Best of luck
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Excuse me but WTF are you talking about?
btw, the 2.47.11 is here

way to go Dr Puttingham
I sure do love it when people provide real links instead of "go check this/that".
I have a question also. I am getting my new TMobile MDA from a this seller on eBay
I want to know what I should do first? Do I need to CID unlock, Registry unlock. If so, how and in what order. I plan to use a T-Mobile SIM card so I probably don't need SIM unlock at least for now unless it is required to do some of the apparently needed OS and radio ROM modifications. I got the radio ROM you provided, so I assume I will need that.

trpenner said:
I sure do love it when people provide real links instead of "go check this/that".
I have a question also. I am getting my new TMobile MDA from a this seller on eBay
I want to know what I should do first? Do I need to CID unlock, Registry unlock. If so, how and in what order. I plan to use a T-Mobile SIM card so I probably don't need SIM unlock at least for now unless it is required to do some of the apparently needed OS and radio ROM modifications. I got the radio ROM you provided, so I assume I will need that.
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From what I gather on here, you'll need to use a CID unlock, but only if you plan on putting an unbranded or custom ROM on your MDA...otherwise it will work find out of the box. Keep in mind that not having any restrictions (CID / Registry) is always preferred

rmlecompte said:
Hello all,
I've upgraded my Cingular 8125 device to the latest official ROM from Cingular/HTC. These are my current versions:
ROM Version: 2.25.11.1 WWE
ROM Date: 5/11/06
Radio version: 02.25.11
Protocol version: 4.1.13.12
ExtROM Version: 2.25.11.102
However, I've noticed that at least once or twice a day when I'm on a phone call, my call is suddenly dropped! I have to wait a few seconds before I'm able to make calls again. My guess is that there is something funky going on with the radio version that I'm using. Is there a later (more stable) radio ROM that I could upgrade to? Notice that I have my device configured quite well and I wouldn't want to wipe it out entirely again (as I already did to upgrade to the latest 2.25.11.1 Cingular-approved ROM). Is it possible to just upgrade the radio ROM without having to wipe my device again? If so, which radio ROM should I upgrade to, and where is it available?
Thanks!
Ryan
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I have the exact same setup, with no customizations on my 8125 and am having a terrible time with calls dropping. Did you find the radio ROM upgrade and did it work?
Thanks.

its already been solved in another thread. apparently its the data connection trying to activate 4 min into a call and dropping the call. the fix is a reg change so that data knows to remain suspended.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=995659&postcount=272

How to?
Well I downloaded the radio ROM but I have no idea what to do next. I searched the site for how to install the update but came up empty.
Any information on how to install the new radio ROM would be appreciated.
As for the registry edit for data connection I am not sure that this is the solution as the calls drop at random intervals, not 4 minutes. I don't have anything (that I know of) which would be trying to create a data connection anyway.
For the registry edit I would need Total Commander correct? Is it really safe for a Noob like myself to make these changes? I can program a vcr but I once deleted part of my operating system in an attempt to get more disk space on my computer. Now I know better but not a lot better.
Thanks

Read this thread for info about Radio Rom Only Updaters...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=268031

Thank you. Looks like exactly what I need. There wasn't the 2.47.11 radio rom in the list there but I will go through those steps to reinstall the ROM that I have and see what I can learn.

I installed the 2.47.11 radio ROM and calls kept dropping. I called Cingular and they assured me it must be the device so they are sending out my 4th 8125. I complained and made a nuisance of myself so they are sending me a free 8525 in addition to the 8125 I have. in the meantime I went to the Cingular store for a loaner so I wouldn't be dropping calls all the time. Even the nokia loaner was dropping all the calls, switched to my unlocked nokia 6820, still drops. Must be the network and not the device.

help quick! thinking of upgrading my radio rom!!

can anyone explain which one is the best one for 8125 g4 locked
and how im am to go about it thanks alot sorry for the noob question

Just depends on your operator, so you need to try yourself and find out which is the best one.

i have at&t and running on wm 5

Basically, like starkwong said, it's pretty much trial and error. You have to try out all of the different Radio ROMs to find out which one works best for you in your area. Nobody here can really tell you for sure which one will work the best for you, unless maybe they live just down the street from you or something.

i know that im just asking is it safe and not brick my phone because its not unlocked in anyway

Normally Radio ROM can be updated directly with the Update Software (RUU) regardless unlock state of CID.

OH NO!
I have a Cingular 8125 G3 unlocked and have TNT's Touchflo rom on it. I tried updating my radio using Faria's 2.69.11 updater, but now my phone won't work, usb won't work, and when I reboot, it reads the IPL/SPL is still 1.xx and the OS is 6.00.0.0 but there is NO GSM line at all! Seeing how I can't the usb to work, I can't flash it with the T-Mobile rom or anything, however I can transfer things onto the phone via IR. So is there something out there I can use to fix at least the usb so I can reflash my phone. Thanks in advance!

Got it!
Nevermind, I got it working. I was able to transfer the bootloader.exe file over to my phone, ran it, and then was able to reflash my phone. Whew, I was so scared. Anyhow, thanks for all the info on this page, I love this site!