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Hello guys!
I got my MDA Vario last week, and I am very much impressed with it!
I got the MDA Vario brand new without a contract and my intention is to use it with one of those O2 Genie PAYG SIM cards. So.... after much reading this excellent forum I figured out that I would need to unlock the SIMlock on the Vario. Got hold of the Lokiwiz utility, followed the advice on these forums, and tested it with the Orange SIM in my regular phone, and hey presto.... MY PY PHONE IS UNLOCKED!
Next step - to remove all T-Mobile customisations. Again, I had a simple bit of advice from one of you good folk - hard reset, then soft reset when the phone starts to install customisations and now all the pink girlie stuff has gone! Only reminant of T-Mobile left on the phone is the logo on the phone dial keypad.
My thoughts are now with upgrading the ROM. T-Mobile have been very slow with updating their ROM package -a new one is apparently due very soon. Now.... in preparation of installing a new ROM, Ive CID unlocked my phone. I would really like to know which ROM I should upgrade to - there are so many out there! As the phone has been CID & Sim Unlocked, does the phone remained unlocked irrespective of what ROM I install? Can I install a T-Mobile ROM after changing it to another?
As I intend to mostly use an O2 PAYG SIM in it, would it be better to use a new 02 update? If so, which one? Or do I go for another ROM? All very confusing! Finally, Ive heard that I cannot browse the net via GPRS on an 02 PAYG SIM. Is that true? Do I need to flash an ExtROM too?
I know Im asking a lot here and am being a bit of a pain in the backside, but I would really appreciate any and as much advice as possible as I realy dont want to end up with a dead phone! Many thanks in advance!
Hi, yes you could wait for the new rom and i am a believer in sticking with your manufacturer roms because many of the posts here seem to people experimenting with different roms and it all going wrong - lol.
But if you do upgrade proberly the commonest choice is the aku2 qtek rom that i use
download here ftp://xda:[email protected]/Wi...digy_2170702_21707102_20710_QTEK_WWE_Ship.exe
and the o2 aku2rom not a bad idea too, but without the o2 extras.
Yes you could then upgrade to the t-mobile rom then but often you need to unlock again with lockiwiz 0.3a.
PAYG o2 will browse internet but msn etc.. does not work.
btw yes you are a pain in the arse but then most people here are!! :lol:
Cheers Mark! Nice to have some basic advice - very reassuring for a thicko newbie like me!
Well... I couldnt wait for the new T-Mobile ROM and went ahead with the upgrade with the Qtek upgrade you suggested.
Was a little tricky at first because the upgrade wouldnt happen (port failing to open) but I had a few programs running in the background on my desktop PC and shut them all down so that I had a `Clean` PC. The upgrade process was then as smooth as a babys bottom.
MDA Vario is running really well - well worth the upgrade IMO. Everything seems quicker and generally better. Only problem I have is with wifi - it seems to take ages to make a connection with my PC (ad-hoc peer to peer) whereas on the original T-Mob ROM it was very quick. Any ideas here?
I read that you say I would need Lokiwiz 0.3a to install the AKU2 T-Mob ROM when it is eventually released. I was under the impression that once the PDA was unlocked (lokiwiz 0.2b) I wouldnt need to unlock it again. Is it different with the very latest T-Mob ROM? Can I not revert (downgrade) to the original T-Mob and then upgrade to the new T-Mob ROM? Ive not heard of lokiwiz 0.3a being out yet - would it be as simple as unlocking with lokiwiz 0.2b?
Finally, how on earth do I get the latest 02 ROM? I need to enter my 02 mobile number and IMEI to download it. Do I need lokiwiz 0.3a to install that or any other current ROM?
Cheers for your friendly advice.
Al.
Hi, no problem - glad to help.
Lokiwiz 0.3a is out see here http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=50768
For some reason when upgrading (in think it renews cid/spl) to aku2 rom seems to lock again - i had to unlock my qtek with above tool.
Yes you can go back to original rom - but if does not work use farias method of unlocking and downgrading rom (post is in this forum)
Most of the roms are in the wiki http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Wizard_Upgrades
including the o2 roms, but i would refrain from too much chopping and changing because you can destory the bootloader and then has to go back to the manufacturer.
Many reported problems with the wifi setting up - i would read some of the threads in the wizard forum if i was you. First thing to try is tweak wifi on device to wlan g and it may work better.
see registry tweaks here http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Wizard_Upgrades
btw good to hang out in the wizard forum too - you will learn alot of tips from there.
Want to also say thanks from another newebie with T-Mobile MDA. Have unlocked phone and CID and flashed with 2.17 QTEK ROM and all is good.
Thanks !!!
if you want th get rid of the tmobile crap on the face...use a 2p coin and move it downwards...not accross
it takes the tmobile paint etc off without any marks..
Jesus sbouri that logo was killing me, brilliant tip, nice one mate!!!
hi
i just got my mda vario and manage to unlocked the phone with lokiwiz03. i know my phone is now sim unlocked, but how do i check if it is cid unlock as well?
i am eager to flash the rom with the qtek version but i have no idea how to do it.
i know i must have my phone cid unlock in order to install a different rom, so do i just download the latest qtek rom, connect my device to usb and activesync it, and then just run the RUU?
i am really noob here.
cheers.
Hi mate if i was you i would use MR CLEANS ROM i flashed with that and its excellent, tottaly clean with no tmobile crap and i didnt do anything with the cid so dont worry.
ftp://xda:[email protected]/Uploads/Wizard/ROMS/MrClean_RUU_WIZARD_224_AKU23_WWE.zip
Just download this and run follow instructions, real easy. Good luck mate.
thanks for the advice...i took a bold move and flash it with a qtek rom. works like a charm. before that i did cid unlock using lokiwiz02a, not lokiwiz03.
i will take a look at mr.clean rom at a later stage.
i notice that my imei number is different from the one in my box. does flashing the rom change it?
now my next task would be update to a better radio rom and check out the extension rom.
cheers.
SBouri said:
if you want th get rid of the tmobile crap on the face...use a 2p coin and move it downwards...not accross
it takes the tmobile paint etc off without any marks..
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Great tip, worked like a charm and left no marks.
Thanks.
Hi there, I'm about to flash my UK MDA Vario too.
I'm not sure to use the Mr clean one or the Qtek 2.17 version.
Before I do anything, which is better of the two?
Also, what settings to I need backed up? I have my txt msg service numbers, as well as voicemail. And all of my MMS & GPRS settings.
Am I to assume that all I have to do is input the settings into the device once it's been flashed?
Thanks
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Hi there, I'm about to flash my UK MDA Vario too.
I'm not sure to use the Mr clean one or the Qtek 2.17 version.
Before I do anything, which is better of the two?
Also, what settings to I need backed up? I have my txt msg service numbers, as well as voicemail. And all of my MMS & GPRS settings.
Am I to assume that all I have to do is input the settings into the device once it's been flashed?
Thanks
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The mr clean rom is a more advanced rom and has no extras. The qtek official rom is probably a safer install because its an official rom and many good reports of success and users pleased with the outcome.
Yes when you have flashed just input all those settings again.
Plus you can backup your voice tag database between hard resets by copying the file CommandModel1.bin found under the windows folder to your pc or to the memory card. After rom upgrade copy it back to your windows folder and all your voice tags are back!
Create backup of windows\start menu - most programs that are on the storage card dont need a reinstall.
Create copy of pim.vol in the root directory of the device - contains contact and appt information. After flash change the new pim.vol to pim.vo and copy and paste old pim.vol (use total commander or gsfinder file explorers for this) and soft reset and you will have info back.
Create backup of windows\favorites - for all your internet favorites.
That will make restore a bit quicker than otherwise.
Cheers for the info. I was actually thinking of trying the Mr. Clean one first, is there anything missing from this one, or is it just less stable?
Mr clean is just a clean rom without any of the manufacturers addons. It will probably run very well - its the flashing process with it that may not be as safe as an original rom and may possibly destroy your bootloader etc.. so you have a brick phone. I would always go for the safest option and would not suggest chopping and changing roms. Read the many users stories where everything goes wrong and the forum needs to help them out.
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Mr clean is just a clean rom without any of the manufacturers addons. It will probably run very well - its the flashing process with it that may not be as safe as an original rom and may possibly destroy your bootloader etc.. so you have a brick phone. I would always go for the safest option and would not suggest chopping and changing roms. Read the many users stories where everything goes wrong and the forum needs to help them out.
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True, I didn't think about that. Thanks again.
Ive been using Mr clean rom for 1 week now and its excellent from my experience. Its tottaly clean and runs so fast!
By clean i mean it has no customizations as you will find on official roms. It flashed just like any other rom too. Easy as pie. Just my info as people would like to know.
I've just upped to the QTEK ROM, and I've a couple of problems, nothing too serious though I don't think?
Firstly, when making my GRPS connection - I can't seem to find anywhere to input the WAP Proxy settings?
Edit, sorted this one now
Secondly, when settinp up my MMS - I can't select connect via Picture Message in the settings, it's not there?
I'm guessing this is some other connection I have to make up?
Any idea guys?
Scottland said:
I've just upped to the QTEK ROM, and I've a couple of problems, nothing too serious though I don't think?
Firstly, when making my GRPS connection - I can't seem to find anywhere to input the WAP Proxy settings?
Edit, sorted this one now
Secondly, when settinp up my MMS - I can't select connect via Picture Message in the settings, it's not there?
I'm guessing this is some other connection I have to make up?
Any idea guys?
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I cant find what you say under settings - what does it do?
Never mind ignore me, that'll teach me not to read T-Mobile's site correctly
I have never flashed this phone with any kind of alternate firmware, yet when I go to run the official one from HTC, I get this at 8-% exactly, on 2 diffrent phones:
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ERROR [326]: INVALLID COMMAND
This NBF file cannot be used with for your PDA Phone. Please check you NBF file.
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Then the phone turns into a brick. All it does is show the Tri-Color test looking screen untill try to flash again...
Any suggestions?
What phone do you have?
Whoops....
Sorry... I posted this in the wiz forum and didnt even think to put my phone model....
Cingular 8125
Thank you!
Re: Official Cingular 8125 2.25 Update ---Problem---
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I have never flashed this phone with any kind of alternate firmware, yet when I go to run the official one from HTC, I get this at 8-% exactly, on 2 diffrent phones:
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ERROR [326]: INVALLID COMMAND
This NBF file cannot be used with for your PDA Phone. Please check you NBF file.
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Then the phone turns into a brick. All it does is show the Tri-Color test looking screen untill try to flash again...
Any suggestions?
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If you are attempting to flash the official ROM on an 8125 and getting this error, there's some bad juju goin on.
Just to be sure, you got the following ROM, correct?
http://www.htcamerica.net/support/software_downloads_8125.htm
I’ve downloaded that so many times my browser is upset at me. There must be a lot of bad JuJu... because It has tanked 2 different phones.....
I’ve taken your 2.3 update, and ran it... It went though... got to 98 and turned red on the phone... finally went to 100% and rebooted... but it was still at 1.8... but at least the phone works again... I really need the push e-mail though... and would prefer to use the official update... or a close derivative..
You should CID unlock first before you apply any ROM found in this forum.
If your phone is virgin, i.e. never been updated to a non official ROM, you will be fine going from 1.8 to this ROM and you would not need to CID unlock. I have gotten an nbf error before, but it was from an attempted downgrade to the stock 1.8 ROM from Summiter's 2.17 release.
Check your OS version and report back.
I know it says you have never upgraded before... If you're still having problems, just take it back to the store, we bricked a phone stuck on the 2.17 ROM and returned it with no problems. Apparently the 8125 does not like animated themes (not my idea, but it did have entertainment value).
Could there be something up with my PC if it bricked 2 seperate phones? WOuld it be possible to fix em with a diffrent PC? and do you think a Cingular store would update the firmware on the phone if it wasnt broken already?
pittaman said:
Could there be something up with my PC if it bricked 2 seperate phones? WOuld it be possible to fix em with a diffrent PC? and do you think a Cingular store would update the firmware on the phone if it wasnt broken already?
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There's always the possibility of a virus causing issues, but it's exceedingly remote.
If the phone is working you should be able to bring it into any Cingular store and have them do the update for you.
pittaman said:
Could there be something up with my PC if it bricked 2 seperate phones? WOuld it be possible to fix em with a diffrent PC? and do you think a Cingular store would update the firmware on the phone if it wasnt broken already?
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I concur with gamescan that it might be a virus, or some crappy spyware. I don't think however that you've "bricked" your phones as you WERE able to install sumitter's 2.23 OK. Of course since you didn't SID unlock you didn't get the full upgrade. I disagree with those who insist that you don't need to unlock. Mayhaps you don't need to but I know that sumitter and the other ROM gawds here have always suggested so. If I was you I'd downgrade to the 1.05, unlock, then upgrade. I'd also scan your PC with Spybot, maybe AdAware. Also I'd delete my temp files, in the c:\documents and settings\%username%\local settings\Temp. Also empty your temporary internet files. I've seen large temp folders on PC's create all kinds of grief. Just a suggestion.
Steven
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Well... I appriciate all your help thus far.
I called Cingular Yesterday ant they sent out 2 replacement phones for free, and I got them today... With the update already in place, so I dont think I'll be playing with unlocking again LOL... But this information is very helpful, as my Uncle has the same phone and needs the push email more than I do. If his phone gets toasted, Ill be here with the results...
Thank you all very much... this is my new favorite place!!!
Not A virus .... its the phone
Apparantly the newer phones have a new flash chipset G4 which is not compatable with the current crop of cooked roms on this site. I think summiter has one that will work but it didn't work for me. I returned my phone for a replacement hoping to get the g3 chipset but to no avail all the new ones are G4 and are unable to be flashed to the custom roms. also you should be able to sim unlock with no issues but to cid unlock you may need to look elsewhere
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alynch75 said:
Apparantly the newer phones have a new flash chipset G4 which is not compatable with the current crop of cooked roms on this site. I think summiter has one that will work but it didn't work for me. I returned my phone for a replacement hoping to get the g3 chipset but to no avail all the new ones are G4 and are unable to be flashed to the custom roms. also you should be able to sim unlock with no issues but to cid unlock you may need to look elsewhere
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First, the OP was using the OFFICIAL CINGULAR UPDATE not a custom Rom.
Second, He was upgrading from 1.8 which is a 1.x Rom, this means his phone is indeed a G3 variant as the 1.x Roms only have G3 IPL/SPL.
I had this same experience from a virgin HTC 8125....
I had stop all apps running and recharge my battery. Then disable my sleep and screensaver then it worked.
Sorry, but i am a newbie i just got my MDA, it sometimes freeze up on me, so i talk to a friend he said try upgrading the firmware, so i wanted to upgrade the firmware just dont know which one cause there's so many...i wanted Tmobile USA, with all of the Tmobile programs such as MMS, Tzone, Email basic program from Tmoile...thanks alot- looking for something more stable, maybe faster WIFI, bluetooth those good stuff any recommandation would be great..and another question when i TRY to flash the fireware will i lose all of the data or program like the spb, theme and whether program thanks again sorry for all the question but i know you guys can help
I am using Rom- 1.8.10.2.WWE
ROM DATE-12/10/05
Radio Version-01.09.10
Protocal version-4.0.13.20
Extrom version 1.8.10.104
Not trying to be rude, but you really need to spend a week or two reading the threads in the "Wizard Upgrading" forum before you even thinking of flashing your Rom.
FYI firmware is for cellphones, Roms are for Windows Mobile Devices.
As to which Rom to use, that depends what you're looking for.
You can go for the latest, the most stable, or one that supports a specific feature. Again this is somethign you really need to read-up on. If you are looking for a specific feature use http://forum.xda-developers.com/search.php .
Honestly, you will gain speed and stability with any 2.x Rom.
To use one of the custom Roms you will need to CID unlock your device (search for it) first.
For your first flash you might just want to stick to an official Rom.
First, don't even think of attempting a CID unlock until you figure out if you have a G4 chip or not, unless you want to turn your MDA into a brick. There are other articles on the unlocking forums, as well as the Wizard forums that go into this in detail.
Until this is ironed out, I'd consider paying $40 to the guys at www.imei-check.co.uk. I've not heard any bad press about these guys, so if you want a SIM/CID unlock, go here.
If its freezing up on you, I'd consider backing your stuff on it, doing a hard reset, and restoring it. Make sure you have the data backed up (if ActiveSync doesn't have it, there are other backup utilities which can work well for your MDA you can purchase.) If you are getting freezes with just the factory installed stuff on it, you may have a hardware issue.
Lastly, quite a number of things can be enhanced/fixed without a ROM reflash, so unless T-Mobile USA comes out with new downloadable ROMs, I'd not worry about a reflash just yet.
hieu512 said:
Sorry, but i am a newbie i just got my MDA, it sometimes freeze up on me, so i talk to a friend he said try upgrading the firmware, so i wanted to upgrade the firmware just dont know which one cause there's so many...i wanted Tmobile USA, with all of the Tmobile programs such as MMS, Tzone, Email basic program from Tmoile...thanks alot- looking for something more stable, maybe faster WIFI, bluetooth those good stuff any recommandation would be great..and another question when i TRY to flash the fireware will i lose all of the data or program like the spb, theme and whether program thanks again sorry for all the question but i know you guys can help
I am using Rom- 1.8.10.2.WWE
ROM DATE-12/10/05
Radio Version-01.09.10
Protocal version-4.0.13.20
Extrom version 1.8.10.104
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Sorry for butting in
Well i have this wiza200 tmobile MDA and would also like to Flash it because of speed and performance enhancement my question is when i flash a new rom will it make my phone again sim lock? because right now its already sim unlocked
my wizard came in with the stock rom any enlightenment will be greatly appreciated
Thanks
I recently attempted to update the ROM in my Cingular 8125. The process stopped at 95% and I received an "Internal Error". Now, when I turn on the phone, it gets as far as the color RUU screen, and nothing else.
How can I find out if I can repair this situation myself or if I need to take it back to Cingular.
Hopefully you'll give Cingular a little more info regarding this than you gave us.
My psychic advisor is STILL on vacation so I can be of very little help to you, sorry!
What ROM were you running before and what ROM were you trying to flash it with? Did you CID unlock before you flashed?
Sorry - When I posted the 1st message, I was in a hurry...
I am not sure what ROM version was on the device before I attempted to update (I know, I should have paid attention, but I was not). The phone was new from Cingular and I had not done anything else to it besides load a couple of apps (Skype & Agile).
I attempted to run the file RUU_Wizard_225111_22511102_022511_CWS_WWE_Ship.exe that I downloaded from the HTC site. The update go to 95% and I received the error "ERROR [326]: INVALID COMMAND" - This NBF file cannot be used for your PDA Phone. Please check your NBF file." (I have attached a screenshot of the error to this post).
I am not sure what to do at this point.
Thanks,
Chris
Some folks at the Cingular forum are having the same issue with no solution offered.
I'd suggest putting the device into bootloader mode (Holding Record and Camera buttons while soft reseting) and then reflashing. Make sure not to launch any programs while flashing. I also don't touch the device at all as I've noticed the USB connection might slightly disconnect.
Good luck and let us know what happens.
I just tried reloading from the bootloader screen - no luck. Exact same error at 95%. Would it work to try to reload an original earlier ROM? If so, how would I go about trying that?
Chris
I had this same problem.....I went to the cingular site after having the problem. Before installing I stopped all applications then soft reset.
THen after it boots up install the file from cingular. It worked from their site. Not sure what changed but I am not having any problems now with the new ROM.
I had this same problem.....I went to the cingular site after having the problem. Before installing I stopped all applications then soft reset.
THen after it boots up install the file from cingular. It worked from their site. Not sure what changed but I am not having any problems now with the new ROM.
I have re-downloaded the ROM file from the Cingular site (actually it just redirects to the HTC site). Same problem. I cannot get to the point to even shut down any programs because the phone OS does not even load at this point. When I do a soft reset, I get the following (sorry for the blurry image - as you can see my good phone with the good camera is dead...)
I had a similar problem. I posted the fix on another thread and ppl said i was wrong, this wasnt it...but heres what worked for me.
Are you using a usb port on the front of the computer? if so, try pluggin into the ports on the back of your computer. I tried flashing the official rom from cingular a few times using front port and it stopped at the exact same % each time. got the same thing as you, colored bars.
Someone had mentioned to me that front usb ports don't work as well as back ones. give it a try. good luck
from the picture, it looks you have the G4 chip(u can see 2.25 0001)
Thanks to everyone for their input. From the suggestions above, I have tried various USB ports on my laptop and I always get to the same point. I have also called HTC tech support and they are pretty sure I have bricked my phone. I talked to Cingular and they have agreed to replace it. I have also researched the G4 chip issues (looked at the post: http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=56408).
Now I have the following question - When I get my new phone (which I will assume will have the G4 chip as well), the Cingular rep told me that it will already have the latest 2.25.0001 ROM on it. What are my options at that point to SIM unlock my phone. Will I be able to? From the post I referenced above, it sounds like I may not be able to with the G4 chip.
Chris
xtreme23 said:
from the picture, it looks you have the G4 chip(u can see 2.25 0001)
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I second this observation! :shock:
This makes a major difference on wether or not you can even upgrade.
Search for G4 issues.
The .0001 in the IPS/SPL number will tell you which one you have.
The way I understand it is:
2.25 - G3
2.25.0001 - G4
I think this is the proper way to identify it.
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Now I have the following question - When I get my new phone (which I will assume will have the G4 chip as well), the Cingular rep told me that it will already have the latest 2.25.0001 ROM on it. What are my options at that point to SIM unlock my phone. Will I be able to? From the post I referenced above, it sounds like I may not be able to with the G4 chip.
Chris
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Chris, LokiwizMSL ( http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=50768 ) can SIM Unlock your device. Be sure to read the instructions.
Well - Now I have a new problem. So far, Cingular is refusing to replace my phone - saying that the ROM upgrade voided the warantee. I am still fighting that, but just in case I loose, is there any way to get my phone fixed once it has been "bricked"?
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Well - Now I have a new problem. So far, Cingular is refusing to replace my phone - saying that the ROM upgrade voided the warantee. I am still fighting that, but just in case I loose, is there any way to get my phone fixed once it has been "bricked"?
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If you installed an unofficial ROM then they are correct. You should never admit that you used a ROM that was not provided by HTC.
There are warnings all over this site about VOIDing your warranty.
Since you used the Official Update they are wrong.
Same problem with official Cingular 8125 ROM
I tried to flash the official Cingular ROM from the HTC site here:
http://www.htcamerica.net/docs/RUU_Wizard_225111_22511102_022511_CWS_WWE_Ship.exe
I got the same error at 95%:
"Error [326]: INVALID COMMAND This NBF file cannot be used for your PDA Phone. Please check your NBF file."
When I reset the phone I get the RGB bootloader screen and nothing else.
My phone is a G4 and was running ROM version 2.25.11.1 WWE before. The reason I tried to apply this ROM is because there was apparently no Extended ROM. None of the customization cabs executed on a hard reset. Also, in Device Information, there was no "ExtROM" listed.
This is the second phone that this has happened on. I thought the first time was just a fluke thing and I had a bad phone. But now I think there is an issue with this ROM.
Anyone have any idea what is going on here with this ROM? Does the fact that there was no Extended ROM have anything to do with this ROM not flashing properly?
Is there anything else to try or do I need to try to return the phone (AGAIN)?
how to fix the problem
read this thread carefully. The upgrade problem seems to be occuring on G4 chipped Wizards with the most current IPL/SPL.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=56088
take the official update. run it, when it finishes extracting look for the extracted NBF file in your
C:\Documents and Settings\yourusernamehere\Local Settings\Temp\the newest directory just made
find the NK.NBF file
extract it using the tutorial in the post above you will be flashing with the official cingular components sans IPL/SPL.
flash it and your are back up and running
I would have posted this earlier but i had to make sure it worked and was repeatable.
I think the problem with the new update is the new IPL/SPL version checking. It seems that if the patcher sees the same version already running it will give you that error at 95%. I've seen it on 3 phones already and I have been able to fix them by doing what i've told you above. You are already in bootloader mode and your phone is ready to accept a new rom anyways. My solution may not be the best for your phone and take no responsibilites but you are already desperate and need a fix. Good Luck!
Thanks for the reply, evilito. Since I hadn't gotten any replies for a few days, I decided to go ahead and try to exchange the phone at the Cingular store. They were baffled that this was the second phone I had returned for the exact same problem, but gave me a new phone anyway. I wish now that I had waited so that I could try evilito's solution to see if it works. As it is now, I am too scared to try any flashing on this new phone after my results with the first two. I would really hate to have to try to return a third phone
Can anyone else verify that there is a problem with the latest Cingular ROM when flashing a G4? Or did I really have two bad phones?
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Now I have the following question - When I get my new phone (which I will assume will have the G4 chip as well), the Cingular rep told me that it will already have the latest 2.25.0001 ROM on it. What are my options at that point to SIM unlock my phone. Will I be able to? From the post I referenced above, it sounds like I may not be able to with the G4 chip.
Chris
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Thats good to know, I thought that when we unlocked it and updated the ROM we lost Warentee Support. Where can you get the official Cingular 2.25 ROM. I am still on 2.17.
Aloha everyone,
I have tried to not post for about 3 weeks but I just can't move forward. I have read and tried to follow everything on the site but I am just confused. I know this is a developers site and I am very intimiated to be castigated by you guys but...it's the internet so what the hell.
I have found numberous instruction threads pertaining to updating ROMS on the Wizard. It seems that up until recently there was only one way to do things but now there are many. As I try to answer questions I come into conflict over which way I shoudl be heading.
I currently have a working WIZ100 that boots with IPL 2.21.0001 SPL 2.21.0lip with GSM 2.25.11 and OS 2.25.11.1. I somehow got to this point, I think by following the instructions to get hardSPL on my device and booting on startup. I did not know if I next needed to find a ROM and if so then how to get that ROM activated on my device or what programs to do this with. I know that the threads spell it out but the threads pertain only to direct assumptions; the assumption that my head is not in my ass.
I wanted to attempt to put a new rom on here, for fun and to play around with something new. Perhaps increase reliability or to get WM6 going. I am stuck now though. Part of me wants to turn back and load the original ROM from the HTC site and the other part of me wants to try a new ROM as I already have this thing booting to the 0lip SPL.
Is anyone out there willing to help me either via this thread, personal message or IM?
Since you have already installed Hard SPL you should be safe to go ahead and pick virtually any ROM you choose on there. I don't have a lot of experience with Hard SPL yet, except for installing it on my kaiser, but the one thing I would guess that you should make sure that the ROM you want to flash doesn't have would be an IPL/SPL update included. As far as I know, I don't think any of the public ones that you find on here have them but make sure you read the chef of the ROM's entire post to make sure. And, if you magically happen to find my ROM somewhere, which you shouldn't since I only gave it to 2 people to try, don't flash it because mine does include an IPL/SPL update.
From my best understanding you have already loaded HardSPL and now are CID unlocked. If this is the case then I would recommend going forward and flashing a new rom to your device. Just go to the Wizard Mobile 6 thread and find one you like, and flash it.
Simple as that.
I appreciate your replies.
1) I am clarified like butter! What program do I download and use to flash the ROM to the Wiz, this has been a source of confusion for me.
2) If I download and install the HTC Cingular ROM from HTC, will that overwrite the HardSPL and return my phone to Factory Default, including the radio areas? In other words do I rid myself of 2.21.0lip?
Thanks for not beating my head in...very polite you devs are...
I like beating people's heads in, and you are far too polite, that I am actually having a very slight guilty twinge! Damn you. I have a G3 myself so I cannot help much, however, I found this sticky which may help.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=332320
I do know that once you choose your rom, you open the folder and run the item marked as ruu.
Now if you only had a G3, then I could fry you like the noob you are.
I suppose at some point, I should make a point of reading/learning about G4's. I know they are a far different animal from my G3.
That's the reason I said not to flash a ROM that contained an IPL/SPL upgrade since there is the possibility that it may overwrite Hard SPL, although I'm not positive of that, but better safe than sorry especially if it it's not an official ROM that carries the correct IPL/SPL format for a G4. If it doesn't contain the correct format for a G4 it could ruin your phone. If you flash an official ROM though and it overwrites it you can always just reinstall Hard SPL again and keep flashing. I hope this makes sense.
As for the files you need to flash a new ROM, they're usually included with the ROM. If they're not then just let me know and I'll upload them for you.
Good that you asked before damaging your (expensive) device...
Every Flash version comes with a RUU (Rom Update Utility) you just run that proggy and it does the rest.
To make it easier, look for a rom that states it's G4 safe (no IPL/SPL included), so you don't have to mess around with the inner files. If you want to, begin your tests with the TNT series, the latest build, stated in my sig is G4 safe, after that you'll be able to know the initial procedure.
Good Luck.
Thanks for the info.
Do I execute the ruu from Windows XP or from the SD card ont he device?
Why am I have a hard time searching for and finding TNT 5.2.1921 TouchFlo ROM?
The rom update utlity gives me an error when I try to update. Should I try to do all this from the sd card?
Well, I am plugging along. I rebooted after an error 300 came up on the rom utility. Any suggestions for me?
I found this thread, back in business, thanks for your help guys.
I guess my only unanswered question is...if I use the HTC ATT exe from htc.com will it kill the hardSPL and restore the computer back to normal?
If you have ROM on your desktop, Connect your phone to your computer via USB, open up Activesync, uncheck the check box in settings that allows USB connections. Make sure you have at least 50% battery, then put your phone into bootloader mode. (soft reset while holding down the camera button- keep holding the button for 5 sec.) a tri-color RGB screen should come up. This is boot loader mode. Then run the rom update utility program, and everything is automatic from there on. once it is done flashing the phone will restart itself.
Thresher said:
I found this thread, back in business, thanks for your help guys.
I guess my only unanswered question is...if I use the HTC ATT exe from htc.com will it kill the hardSPL and restore the computer back to normal?
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Try it and find out. I'd kind of like to know the answer to that one too, although my phones a G3 and already CID unlocked anyway. You can always reinstall Hard SPL over again if it does.
So this worked out well for me overall. Installing HardSPL to my G4, and then using a correct bootloader with the right ROM (to review).
I am having one issue.
I have the OEM ROM, however the RUU gives me an error. Is there a documented way to restore the phone to an original status? Is it even necessary?
I ask due to problems since my upgrade to the TNT rom. I am noticing a lot of missed calls and people have complained. Is this an issue with the 8125 and the particular ROM?
I don't know what to ask, or how to search for this. Thanks for any input you can offer.
Otherwise the TNT rom is awesome. I do miss the voice dialing though. Thats another search.
Actually, that's usually an issue with your radio version. Try using either version 2.19 or farias 2.69 and see if that fixes your problem. You should be able to find both of them in the wiki and you may want to try both of them and see which one gives you the better reception because sometime one will work much better than the other for you depending on your location.
By the way, you don't have to be CID unlocked or have hardspl installed to update your radio so you shouldn't have an issue with the RUU giving you an error. If you do, let me know and I'll upload a different RUU for you to try.
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Actually, that's usually an issue with your radio version. Try using either version 2.19 or farias 2.69 and see if that fixes your problem. You should be able to find both of them in the wiki and you may want to try both of them and see which one gives you the better reception because sometime one will work much better than the other for you depending on your location.
By the way, you don't have to be CID unlocked or have hardspl installed to update your radio so you shouldn't have an issue with the RUU giving you an error. If you do, let me know and I'll upload a different RUU for you to try.
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So the Rom is broken up into major parts. Those parts must ineract with one another, so that would be why my radio version may be at cause?
Yep. The ROM can contain the IPL, SPL, OS, Splash Screens, GSM (the radio), and extended ROM, any of which can be changed or upgraded individually without affecting the other parts of the ROM (for all intents and purposes anyway). That means you can change your radio version without it deleting all of your settings or your installed apps in your OS, etc etc.
Since you still upgrade each individual part using a RUU that is able to update any of the parts you still get a warning when you run it that it will delete all of your files, but as long as the update that you're running doesn't include a new OS you can ignore those warnings.
I decided to back out of the entire upgrade and move back to WM5 Official Cingular HTC ROM. I am stoked that I now know the full process of taking a G4 through hardSPL, ROM updates and restoral.
I was too scared to try any radio updates or fixes. Maybe when I upgrade phones I will come back to playing with the 8125 but for now, I just need a good functioning phone for work.
Do these Cingular radio fix cabs apply to a standard phone or only to upgraded ones?