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Delayed answering

Hi all,
Running my Orange UK (unlocked and on T-mobile) with Duttys 6.1 ROM and radio 1.64.08.21 and seem to have an issue when answering incoming calls.
I'm sure I've seen this reported elsewhere but can't find it for the life of me now!
When I recieve an incoming call and press the green answer button, there is about a 2 second delay before the call is connected. If you're not quick, TM voicemail takes the call. Seems to be a second of ringing on the calling handset before it starts ringing on the TYTN 2 as well.
Can someone confirm that I have seen this reported elsewhere and post a link or suggest if this is a ROM issue, radio issue or general Kaiser issue?
Only kept the orange rom for about 48 hours and went straight to Duttys so cant really recall if it happened on the orange rom.
Many thanks guys!

Not exactly the same problem, but I have a similar issue on my Tilt with my bluetooth headset. I press the headset button to answer and don't hear anything for about 1.5 seconds. Usually, the person calling is saying "hello? hello?" by the time I actually get connected.
The headset (Plantronics 510) works great for everything else.

Have you tried the following. I've seen this help some people including myself.
Start > Settings > Phone > Services Tab .. Highlight Call Forwarding and hit Get Settings ..
Forward phone calls only if: Forward After: there is a drop down box that some providers allow you to set the time before the call goes to viocemail. (5, 10, 15, 20, 25 and 30 seconds) .. I think default was 20 on my phone/provider.
If your network provider doesn't allow changes from your phone you might have to call their customer service and request they manually change the network settings for you.

Same problem here as well! Same Rom (Dutty's), same network (Orange).
And I've only flashed last week and was on the standard Orange Rom before and there wasn't a delay. Any help is appreciated as this is a right pain.
I've changed to 30 seconds before diverting to the answerphone - so thanks for that response at least.

PsyOpWarlord said:
Have you tried the following. I've seen this help some people including myself.
Start > Settings > Phone > Services Tab .. Highlight Call Forwarding and hit Get Settings ..
Forward phone calls only if: Forward After: there is a drop down box that some providers allow you to set the time before the call goes to viocemail. (5, 10, 15, 20, 25 and 30 seconds) .. I think default was 20 on my phone/provider.
If your network provider doesn't allow changes from your phone you might have to call their customer service and request they manually change the network settings for you.
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Had no idea that screen was there... Thanks! I've changed my call forward to 25 seconds, 'cause I had always felt it was going to vms too quickly.
Gavin

I had this issue myself with Dutty's V4 RTM (WM 6.0) rom. Pressing the Green button would result in a 2 second delay in being able to answer the phone, but if I used the left soft key to answer, there was no delay.

Same problem here. T-Mobile vanilla ROM. Can take up to 5 seconds for the call to reach my earpiece.

Solved it!
I had seen elsewhere that turning off the kepad sounds and turning off smart dialing could help, but I can't find a smart dialing option in the phone options.
Just tried switching the the Windows dialler rather than HTC and turning off auto Audio record on the Resco recorder which I had forgotten about.
After bit of playing, it appears (quite obviously now) to be the Audio recorder!
Used to use this on my wizard without any notable problems, but seems to be an issue on the Kaiser. It answers and hangs up in an instant now
A bit specific, but if any of you guys have this kind of thing installled and configured, try turning it off?!
Thanks for the replies and suggestions and hope you get it sorted too!

I don't have Resco audio installed and it only happens occasionally but when it does it usually happens a few times in a row.
Sometimes I also get the ringtone coming through the BT headset while the kaiser sputters into life. Then a 2 second delay
before the BT headset beeps and the caller can hear me.
Occasionally, I can hear the caller at the same time as I can hear the ringtone. Just another 'feature' I guess.
"If you're not quick, TM voicemail takes the call"
There's usually a few seconds delay between 'hearing' the other phone ring and it actually ringing. Can be up to 5 seconds.
some default ring tones are timed 3+ seconds apart. Choose the wrong ring tone and ring tone type (increasing volume) and
it's possible to miss the first 2 rings which, if the answer after x seconds delay is set to 20 seconds gives someone about
5 seconds to answer the phone or miss the call. My GF suffered 'missed call syndrome' after fiddling with her Hermes.
You can adjust the voice mail answer after x seconds time in start/settings/phone/services/call forwarding/get settings
Forward calls only if [no answer should be ticked]
Drop down menu Forward after ..
Mine is set to 30 seconds.

Incoming Call notifications (call waiting) when on a call

Hey all...I probalby should know this as I have uses a PPC device for 2 years...but I don't remember having this issue on my last phone.
When I am on a call and get another coming in it consistently beeps/rings for the call waiting.
I have set my phone up to wait 30 seconds before going to voicemail (as I am not always around the phone). Because of this if I am in the middle of a conversation and get another call, I can't hear the other party (and am distracted myself) because my phone keeps ringing the other line for 30 seconds until the call is rejected.
When using MS Voice Command, I get the same thing with incoming announcements. If I am on the phone with Caller A and then Caller B calls, MSVC keeps saying "Incoming Call from Caller B."
I don't want to turn off Call Waiting, but I would like to change the notification so it is only a beep or something simple every 5-10 seconds and not a continuous ringing or talking.
Is the caller ID ring/tone able to be managed differently from the ring tone/announcement? What is the best way to manage this?
thanks

bumping to see if anyone has advice?

I have Same Problem With BlackStone and this annoying me so much
Any advice ?

PhoneAlarm has a setting to Vibrate for alerts while in a call.

extending the length of the ringtone

First, off i did a search and all i could find is extending ringtone by looping, which apparently removes the 3 second lag, but I haven't really noticed anything.
Anyhow, I am on At&t service and it appears that my phone only rings three times with the tilt. I switch my sim card out and put it into my older motorolas and each time I call those phones I get 5 or 6 rings.
I noticed this because when my tilt rings it only lasts about 10 seconds before it connects to my voicemail.
In the past, I may have noticed an option on my device but at this time I couldn't find it. However, I may just be imagining things. I am tired of missing calls because i can't get my phone out of my pocket in time. If anyone has any suggestions about extending the length of the ring it would be greatly appreciated.

Ring scripts
redbandana said:
First, off i did a search and all i could find is extending ringtone by looping, which apparently removes the 3 second lag, but I haven't really noticed anything.
Anyhow, I am on At&t service and it appears that my phone only rings three times with the tilt. I switch my sim card out and put it into my older motorolas and each time I call those phones I get 5 or 6 rings.
I noticed this because when my tilt rings it only lasts about 10 seconds before it connects to my voicemail.
In the past, I may have noticed an option on my device but at this time I couldn't find it. However, I may just be imagining things. I am tired of missing calls because i can't get my phone out of my pocket in time. If anyone has any suggestions about extending the length of the ring it would be greatly appreciated.
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Have you tried playing with the registry value for ring script?
I've seen this several places, but here's one forum discussion's tutorial:
Change ringtone/vibrate/LED flash characteristics
If you would like more control over how your device rings/vibrates/flashes its LEDs on events, you can can change the Script values of these events. For example, for an incoming call performing 'activate device, play ringtone, wait 3 seconds, repeat':
HKCU\ControlPanel\Sounds\RingTone0\Script = "apw3r" (REG_SZ string, no quotes)
For performing 'active device, set volume to 33%, play ringtone, set volume to 67%, play ringtone, set volume to 100%, play ringtone (no repeat)':
HKCU\ControlPanel\Sounds\RingTone0\Script = "ac33pc67pc100p" (REG_SZ string, no quotes)
The following are the full codes available to you. Please note that all the codes are executed simultaneously except after a ringtone play / wait code. E.g. 'v1p' will vibrate and play at the same time, while vibrating for 1 second. But 'pv1' will play the ringtone through all the way first, then start vibrating for 1 second.
a = activate device
cN = set volume to N in percentage max volume
fN = flash notification LED for N seconds
p = play ringtone. Note that this will play the ringtone all the way through before continuing with the next code.
r = repeat. Note that this should be the last code in your Script string, if used at all.
vN = vibrate for N seconds
wN = wait for N seconds. Note that the device will wait this long before continuing with the next code.

cushcalc said:
Have you tried playing with the registry value for ring script?
I've seen this several places, but here's one forum discussion's tutorial:
Change ringtone/vibrate/LED flash characteristics
If you would like more control over how your device rings/vibrates/flashes its LEDs on events, you can can change the Script values of these events. For example, for an incoming call performing 'activate device, play ringtone, wait 3 seconds, repeat':
HKCU\ControlPanel\Sounds\RingTone0\Script = "apw3r" (REG_SZ string, no quotes)
For performing 'active device, set volume to 33%, play ringtone, set volume to 67%, play ringtone, set volume to 100%, play ringtone (no repeat)':
HKCU\ControlPanel\Sounds\RingTone0\Script = "ac33pc67pc100p" (REG_SZ string, no quotes)
The following are the full codes available to you. Please note that all the codes are executed simultaneously except after a ringtone play / wait code. E.g. 'v1p' will vibrate and play at the same time, while vibrating for 1 second. But 'pv1' will play the ringtone through all the way first, then start vibrating for 1 second.
a = activate device
cN = set volume to N in percentage max volume
fN = flash notification LED for N seconds
p = play ringtone. Note that this will play the ringtone all the way through before continuing with the next code.
r = repeat. Note that this should be the last code in your Script string, if used at all.
vN = vibrate for N seconds
wN = wait for N seconds. Note that the device will wait this long before continuing with the next code.
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ya i saw a similar post i think i need to call at&t because it appears it is on the dialers end.

redbandana said:
First, off i did a search and all i could find is extending ringtone by looping, which apparently removes the 3 second lag, but I haven't really noticed anything.
Anyhow, I am on At&t service and it appears that my phone only rings three times with the tilt. I switch my sim card out and put it into my older motorolas and each time I call those phones I get 5 or 6 rings.
I noticed this because when my tilt rings it only lasts about 10 seconds before it connects to my voicemail.
In the past, I may have noticed an option on my device but at this time I couldn't find it. However, I may just be imagining things. I am tired of missing calls because i can't get my phone out of my pocket in time. If anyone has any suggestions about extending the length of the ring it would be greatly appreciated.
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I can confirm that what you need to do is call AT&T. The default is for the phone to ring 3 times and go to voicemail. If you would like it to ring more time, you must call customer service and request it. I personally don't care, but had to do that for my father who can't always hear his phone very well. We had them change it to 6 rings for him.

i use full song mp3's as ringtones and it plays for as long as it dials you

Extending ring duration before call goes to voice mail
Here's how it's done: Start > Settings > Phone > Services tab. Tap 'Call Forwarding' then 'Get Settings'. Notice section 'Forward phone calls only if:'. 'No answer' should be checked. Change 'Forward after' to a longer value. (I use the maximum, which is 30 seconds.) NOTE: This works on an 8525/Hermes on AT&T. YMMV.

^ winnar. ThanQ, had been wondering about this for a while.

Donny Bahama said:
Here's how it's done: Start > Settings > Phone > Services tab. Tap 'Call Forwarding' then 'Get Settings'. Notice section 'Forward phone calls only if:'. 'No answer' should be checked. Change 'Forward after' to a longer value. (I use the maximum, which is 30 seconds.) NOTE: This works on an 8525/Hermes on AT&T. YMMV.
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I believe that worked on my tilt also...thanks....

Ringing problem!

I have one problem with my Diamond, I'm living in sweden and our oparator is tele2 which let the phone ringing just 4 times at the incomming call then going to answer machine, the problem is the HTC touch Diamond start to ring at the 3rd one, means just have two incomming ring , I have lots of missed call per a day, How can I solve this problem plz.

In the option menu, when your are one the page with number to call, there is a few of possibility:
vibrate in first, then ring (your case)
vibrate AND ring
...
Select vibrate and ring, your diamond will ring immediatelly at the first ring...
Excuse my english, i'm french...

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In the option menu, when your are one the page with number to call, there is a few of possibility:
vibrate in first, then ring (your case)
vibrate AND ring
...
Select vibrate and ring, your diamond will ring immediatelly at the first ring...
Excuse my english, i'm french...
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Not on my XDA Ignito; Even if vibrate and ring is set the lights flash for at least 2 incoming rings before the phone rings and vibrates
Ringing problem!
I have one problem with my Diamond, I'm living in sweden and our oparator is tele2 which let the phone ringing just 4 times at the incomming call then going to answer machine
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If that is an operator setting maybe it's possible to change it in your operators' voice mailbox settings?

Thank you for your reply, I ve gott another mobile phone SE and it getting the incoming call with the first ringing, but with the diamond it is ringing after 2 incoming signal? I think there is a problem with the setting or some thing else but cann't get it back...any one can help its appreciated.
Its not from the operator and neither from signal setting.

Many have had same problem, i think there is a thread about this some where. I solved it by increasing the amount of time before my voicemail picked up (need to talk with your phone company about that) and using a .wav ringtone format. Sorry no "easy" fix

Thanks Hippo-DK , how can I find that thread? I'm in need to get this broblem solved, how can I do mailbox? or what?

He's right in the fact that you have to contact your cellular provider to increase the rings before going to voicemail, but you can't keep it from waiting 2 rings before actually ringing. It's a problem that no one has found a direct solution for.

[Q] Soft then Loud volume juimp in ringtones

I have a problem with my ringtone that is driving me nuts. When the ringer starts, it is very quiet for maybe a second or two and then suddenly goes to the full ringer volume. I would like it to start at the preset volume level and continie; i.e. get rid of the soft-then-loud and just keep the loud.
For additional background I used ringdroid to make a few ringtones from .mp3s. The original .mp3 and created ringtones created sound perfect played through a media player so it is not the files themselves rather something weird on the phone.
This is one of the last items for me in setting up my new system so please help!

You can't fix that. Its a standard Samsung thing that they do with all devices.. No way as of yet to get around it.

This is terrible! Isn't there a way to remove this setting? This is an Android device after all!

Fret not, my friend.
As there's no solution to the native ringing behavior, here's a workaround to help offset the first low ring by extending the time your phone rings before rolling over into voicemail.
1. On your phone, dial *#61# and click Send.
2. Some information should be displayed: number that the calls are being forwarded to and the delay before the forwarding engages.
3. Write down the number (including +1)
4. Dial **61*+1xxxyyyzzzz*11*30# and hit Send. +1xxxyyyzzzz is the number you wrote down previously, 30 is the delay in seconds. The delay can be set in 5 second increments, 30 is maximum
5. Dial *#61# to verify that the new settings are active.
Dialing *#61# as instruction 5 suggests told me that my phone forwards to voicemail after 30 seconds.

I will give this a try. Any explanation for why this works?

Adaptive13 said:
I will give this a try. Any explanation for why this works?
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Its not that it changes the tone like he said. All this does is make your phone ring for a longer period of time. I think the default is 20 secs.. using the settings above you extend that time by 10 more secs of ringing which helps so you can catch the phone. You still aren't stopping the actual soft first ring.

Exactly. This used to be changeable only via AT&T until I discovered the procedure elsewhere. Helps alot.

Hmm. This is not quite what I was looking for; I want to hear the beginings of my ringtones! Does anyone know the exact time the ringtone is softened? I guess I could use an .mp3 editor and bad nothingness to the beginning...

I downloaded audacity and put some blank space in the front of each one of my ringtones. 2 seconds seems to be the perfect amount of dead time for the ring to come up at full volume. This is actually kind of nice now vecause it gives me two seconds to reject the call before it starts making noise, so if I am in a meeting or something and forget to turn the ringer off (never happens I can dump the call.

Thanks Jack45, worked perfectly!