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after doing the 2.24 upgrade I have not been able to get my emails ... i get a text messages with a 701 .... please advise asap Andy
A 701 text message is a trigger message for your phone to download email. You have at least one email account setup through T-Mobile. If you still want to use the triggered email download simply run the T-Mobile setup application in Programs and tell it to download your existing accounts and you are done. If you don’t want to use that anymore like myself, log in to you’re my T-Mobile account and Go to Email and delete out your configured mailboxes and then manually configure them on the MDA. That’s all it takes.
-Troy :lol:
I may be late to the game on this issue, but I can't believe what I'm hearing from another source. Hope I put this in the right forum.
Is it true that when we send or receive a POP message on our PDA that there's no way we can synchronize that message back to Outlook on the desktop?
What I need to do is to have any message received or sent using Pocket Outlook with WiFi or 3G/GPRS while away from my desktop syncrhonized back to Outlook via ActiveSync. I've been told this can't be done.
In other words, what we have here is the electronic Roach Motel for email?
Someone please tell me it's not true.
I don't think that's true. I haven't used Outlook/Pop Mail since my Dell Axim Days, but to worked then.
What's true is POP is a one shot deal. If you download the message from your email server using POP to your Mobile, you can't download it from your email server to your Desktop Outlook.
Yes, I understand that with POP, you have the option of either keeping the messages on the server, or having them deleted after download.
Here's a scenario. This is what I'd like to happen. Please let me know if it's possible with a standard POP/SMTP server (NOT an Exchange server, and IMAP isn't an option for me at this time).
1) I synchronize my device with my pc and emails are updated to their respective folders on the PDA while physically connected to my desktop. I then disconnect and leave my office.
2) While on the road, I download an email to the device using one of my POP accounts via either 3G or WiFi. I respond to that message and send it back. Now, I have one new message in the In Box on the PDA, and a response in my Sent Items folder on the PDA.
3) When I return home, I want both those new messages - one in the In Box and on in the Sent Items folder to be synchronized back from the PDA to the desktop.
I've been told it's not possible. Can someone confirm, and if it's true, please explain to me (in layman's terms) how messages manage to go into the machine, but messages downloaded using the PDA just don't want to come out?
BillTheCat said:
I've been told it's not possible.
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AFAIK, it is not possible in the way you want to do it. Out the box WM will only do this with Exchange Server email. You have to go with a third party service like Xpress Fail that pushes email off your desktop Outlook to your phone.
Maybe someone could suggest a service that actually works, because Xpress Fail sucked for me.
You have probably been told this, but I set up Outlook on the desktop to leave an email on the server for 10 days. This way the phone and desktop get the same email. But thats as good as it gets with a POP account.
One more thing, the "Outlook" account you see on the phone is used for Exchange Server email. You can select it to sync with your desktop, but all it does is load up the email from your desktop.
GWelker62 said:
AFAIK, it is not possible in the way you want to do it. Out the box WM will only do this with Exchange Server email. You have to go with a third party service like Xpress Fail that pushes email off your desktop Outlook to your phone.
Maybe someone could suggest a service that actually works, because Xpress Fail sucked for me.
You have probably been told this, but I set up Outlook on the desktop to leave an email on the server for 10 days. This way the phone and desktop get the same email. But thats as good as it gets with a POP account.
One more thing, the "Outlook" account you see on the phone is used for Exchange Server email. You can select it to sync with your desktop, but all it does is load up the email from your desktop.
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Incredible. I'm speechless. So, the phone really is like the D-Con roach motel.
I'm incredulous that we have a system that gets Email from the desktop to the machine, and a machine that can send and receive emails while away from the desktop, but can't manage to get the messages back to the desktop when you return.
I just fail to understand how something seemingly so simple can be so complex. After all, POP email is just more or less a text file.
Ok, I've been thinking about this.
Of all the Email addresses I have, the majority of them are in my control. There is only one email address (att.net) that I have no control over and offers only POP.
If I migrate my domains from GoDaddy (which does NOT offer IMAP) to another IHV, can I have my att.net POP email automatically forwarded to a 'ghost' IMAP account at a new host, and accomplish what I want?
I still get back to being amazed that Microsoft hasn't had the forethought to supporting synchronization of POP messages from the phone back to desktop Outook. How F'n stupid is that???
Thanks in advance for any thoughts y'all have on this matter.
I think in Windows Pocket PC 2003 it did sync with POP. But the Windows Mobile Line assumes everyone is using exchange servers. Microsoft makes a lot of assumptions like that.
To answer your question, You will get two benefits out of your solution.
1: You will be able to use IMAP.
2: You won't be using GoDaddy anymore.
WIN FEAKIN' WIN Man!
I'm currently in quite a similar situation - I use Outlook 2007 on my desktop to download ALL my email, 95% of which comes from my Yahoo account. As it stands right now, I POP download my emails to my Outlook (Yahoo doesnt support desktop IMAP unless you pay), and I IMAP it to my Tilt (Yahoo does, however, support IMAP to mobiles, i guess? ). Currently I'll BCC a copy of any email I send to myself, and then once it's POPed back to Outlook, I just move it to the Sent Mail. It's a hassle but it's the best I can do.
The one annoyance is that if you don't close Outlook before leaving home, the POP automatically marks the messages as "read" once downloaded, and so when the Tilt IMAPs them in, they're already marked as read and so I don't get notified.
If you figure anything out (that doesn't require access to my own server!) please let us know lol
JimmyMcGee said:
To answer your question, You will get two benefits out of your solution.
1: You will be able to use IMAP.
2: You won't be using GoDaddy anymore.
WIN FEAKIN' WIN Man!
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LOL! Yeah, I'm thinkin' yer on to somethin' there. Looking at Dreamhost as an IHV. At least they support full shell access for more than one administrator so I can separate my domains that are serviced by another party.
Ok, but here's a problem. With IMAP, do I have a local copy on my machine, or must everything be stored on the server?
BillTheCat said:
LOL! Yeah, I'm thinkin' yer on to somethin' there. Looking at Dreamhost as an IHV. At least they support full shell access for more than one administrator so I can separate my domains that are serviced by another party.
Ok, but here's a problem. With IMAP, do I have a local copy on my machine, or must everything be stored on the server?
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I prefer DreamHost myself.
In IMAP they are stored on the server, but most desktop email client give you the option to save a local copy. As to how, it depends on the client though.
JimmyMcGee said:
In IMAP they are stored on the server, but most desktop email client give you the option to save a local copy. As to how, it depends on the client though.
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Ok, so bear with me, because I'm still getting my head around how this all works.
Let's say I migrate my hosting and set up IMAP accounts for my various email addresses. Then I set both the PDA and my Desktop respectively to download and delete messages from the server. Will messages sent and received on the PDA (therefore stored on the phone) be replicated to the desktop using ActiveSync when I reconnect for a synchronization? Or will I find myself back with the same situation I have with POP where ActiveSynch won't 'see' the PDA's IMAP folders and refuse to copy messages to my Desktop Outlook?
Basically an IMAP server the Email stays on the server. Then with your desktop of PDA downloads the message it is a "Shadow copy." IMAP allows multiple client to access the same Mailbox and the same time if needed. POP hates that.
Active Sync won't have any role in this.
If you download on your PDA, you will get a "shadow" on your PDA and the original message will be on the server. You can then go to your Desktop machine it will look what's on the server that it doesn't have as a shadow copy and then download a shoadw copy of that. Meaning at that point, both Devices will have the message in it possesion.
JimmyMcGee said:
Basically an IMAP server the Email stays on the server. Then with your desktop of PDA downloads the message it is a "Shadow copy." IMAP allows multiple client to access the same Mailbox and the same time if needed. POP hates that.
Active Sync won't have any role in this.
If you download on your PDA, you will get a "shadow" on your PDA and the original message will be on the server. You can then go to your Desktop machine it will look what's on the server that it doesn't have as a shadow copy and then download a shoadw copy of that. Meaning at that point, both Devices will have the message in it possesion.
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Wow. "Shadow". Now there's a term I haven't heard since my OS/2 days. Man, do I feel really old.
What you're saying is that essentially we then have three sets of copies of both sent and received mail in three different locations, the servers and local devices just setting their 'flags' as needed, correct?
Ok, I guess at this point I guess I really just need to set up an IMAP account somewhere and see how it works in practice so I can get my head around it.
Thanks for all your help!
BillTheCat said:
Wow. "Shadow". Now there's a term I haven't heard since my OS/2 days. Man, do I feel really old.
What you're saying is that essentially we then have three sets of copies of both sent and received mail in three different locations, the servers and local devices just setting their 'flags' as needed, correct?
Ok, I guess at this point I guess I really just need to set up an IMAP account somewhere and see how it works in practice so I can get my head around it.
Thanks for all your help!
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Basically, yeah.
Maybe use a GMAIL account via Imap and seee what happens when you check it from two locations.
Feel free to shoot me any questions you have.
OK... before someone berates me for "not searching"... let me say off the bat that I've searched both these forums and the Internet in general for the answer to the following, but haven't quite found the answer... so here goes.
I am a happy owner of a Kaiser (is there such a thing as a "happy" owner of a Kaiser? ), but I have one question that's been bugging me regarding the number of Pocket Outlook email accounts that I'm able to pull.
Currently I'm using the SEVEN software for direct-push of a couple of my MSN accounts and my hospital email account. I also have my ActiveSync-sync'ed Outlook main folder, and three other accounts, all of them external POP accounts.
Counting? That's seven accounts. Now, when I try to add another account to the SEVEN software's lineup, I get an error message saying I've reached the max number of accounts. BUT... when I to into PO directly, and try to add another account directly, the menu option for adding another account is NOT there...
Either way, it appears (correct me if I'm wrong) that Pocket Outlook (PO) is capped at 7 accounts total, and won't let you add any more.
Now, someone will undoubtedly say, "just use QMAIL" or something like that. But I tried QMAIL and I don't like how it operates. I've tried the FEW other external-to-Microsoft 3rd-party software out there and don't like any of them because of 1) they don't allow pushed mail properly, 2) they're too hard to set up, or 3) the GI sucks.
Since the registry is the golden-boy for practically everything, I was thinking that somewhere in the registry there has to be a "number of accounts" key... but I've searched as much as I can, and haven't found it.
What I'd like to know from anyone out there, is there a way to increase the maximum number of PO accounts, and what is the method for doing so (if it exists)?
Thanks for keeping awake for my tome...
~ BereanPK
Just as a quick update to my own question, I did knock out the email sync in ActiveSync, and the "New Account" option in the Tools menu came back -- but when clicked on, it gives me the following error:
"You have reached the maximum number of accounts. One account is reserved for Outlook. If you want to set up outlook to synchronize with an Exchange Server, click OK"
BTW, I'm using the stock ROM 1.62.502.0, de-ATT'd (you know, the hard-reset, then tap soft-reset button).
~ BereanPK
I don't believe there is a way to overcome this limit.
bengalih said:
I don't believe there is a way to overcome this limit.
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rch
ill tend to agree to that...researched the MSDN resources on this and no bite
I did everything you did too and same result!!!!!
can anyone help us?
I have several email accounts configured and want to check them manually. But instead of doing a send/receive for each account I would like to have this done for all accounts by pressing just one button.
Any ideas how to obtain this?
(Running the original HTC ROM 1.93.407.1, no modifications/config tools installed)
This is a nice idea but I think you need a other emailclient for it, I have been using flexmail in the past if I am right that client will do the job.
Willem
Thanks for your reply Wilsas.
Beeing very satisfied with outlook as itself I do not want to change the included email client due this issue. But thanks for the tip.
My hope was that it is possible an easy way by maybe with Mortscript (no idea, never used) or to configure the TF3d email menue to do so.
Maybe a simple program that does nothing else than performing the send/receive action for all accounts found when startet and then quit itself.
I don't now or you found already a solution for your mail problem, I found Momail http://www.momail.com/ this is a free mailservice which support Push and forward so you can receive all your emails in just 1 accunt and even reply whit the original account.
Willem
Hi,
Same here. I'm using mail2web for this. All my mail is forwarded to this account so I only have to sync with this one.
Bad thing about this is that when you reply, it's not using the correct account...
Thanks!
With the mailproviders that I use, I have also the possibility to "catch all" and was thinking about that too.
Due time issues I paused my researches.
I am pretty sure there is an easy solution by coding/configuring just a few lines.
With MortScript there should be something like Run( "tmail.exe", '-service "GMX"' ). But autoreceiving seems not to work.
Here is someone that comes a bit closer to a solution:
http://www.modaco.com/content/wizar...button-push-to-open-email-then-send-receive/#
An other way could be following:
A linkklick starts a script that sets the config to autoupdate for all accounts to (lets say) 20 sceonds and after some time change it back to "off".
I've been trying to find a way to fix this...
Is there a way or a setting somewhere that stops the Tilt from downloading messages I send/reply or is that a setting a gmail. It is annoying when I reply to an email using the gmail web interface or with outlook on my PC, then my phone will download my mail as a new message. I don't really want to set up some sort of filter, since some times when I send an email, I will CC myself, but I am just annoyed by it downloading every single reply.
Uuuuuhhhhhhh o.k.
stop CC'ing yourself, just check your sent box... too simple or not complex enough a solution?
jiannichan said:
I've been trying to find a way to fix this...
Is there a way or a setting somewhere that stops the Tilt from downloading messages I send/reply or is that a setting a gmail. It is annoying when I reply to an email using the gmail web interface or with outlook on my PC, then my phone will download my mail as a new message. I don't really want to set up some sort of filter, since some times when I send an email, I will CC myself, but I am just annoyed by it downloading every single reply.
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Did you read the problem or not understand it? The problem is when I reply to emails, the Tilt will download it as a new message. Where did I state that I CC myself all the time? What does checking my sent messages have anything to do with what the Tilt is downloading?
little snippy...
Pretty sure you not only said it, but now you've highlighted the fact that you sometimes CC yourself on emails sent, so yes, you would receive a copy. You would check your sent box to view messages that you have sent rather than CC'ing yourself. Mighty snippy for someone asking for help. Are you using a threaded version of Gmail? that's the only reason I could think you would receive a copy of the conversation, aside from CC'ing yourself.
If you read it, it says SOMETIMES. My problem is EVERY email reply gets downloaded. The CCs aren't a problem and not something I am complaining about. I am complaining about all replies done by me being downloaded as a new email. My response to you would have been different if you actually replied like you read it what the problem was.
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Trying again, are you using a threaded style of Gmail or the true Gmail website?
Not really sure. I rarely ever use the gmail website unless I am at a different computer. Most of my email comes to my phone and PC, which I remote into during work and just use Outlook to respond if I can. I'll try to explain the problem better. I apologize, just having a hectic day at work.
When someone emails me, the Tilt will download the email.
I will reply back using the tilt, or Outlook on my PC, and every once in a while, the gmail web interface. NOT CCing myself.
Tilt then downloads again, my reply and puts it in my inbox.
The only time I CC myself, is when I send out a new email that I feel is important. I do this because I like to have a copy for myself, and I empty my sent box on a weekly basis.
Also, I just did a web search on this threaded gmail thing you were talking about. It appears that is a 'feature' in gmail and it can't be disabled. It puts my replys in a 'conversation' style so it thinks that my replies are new messages and just downloads them. I guess I just have to deal with it.
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Does ONLY the tilt capture all replies or do they also show up on your box at home and is this independant of from where you reply (home box or tilt)? Gmail uses a conversation view that shows reply messages as a long conversation would appear in MMS/SMS. I can't imagine that this would cause the problem but may be another piece to this puzzle.
Don't worry about my comments, I'm a smart-ass. Pretty much everyone is here to help and there are many more smart-assier (and just plain smarter) than me. Just roll with the punches and enjoy the website.
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I use Gmail and reply from my tilt as well, but have not had a problem. But i don't use a web app, I have gmail as a separate account that I access just like standard push-mail. What way do you use gmail?
Same problem
When I used my tilt I was having the same problem. I would send an email from my tilt (from a push account I had set up on the phone) and would receive a copy of the sent mail as a new message. I had that phone for 2 years and used various roms and could never stop it from doing so. It was very annoying to say the least. Some light on this matter would be awesome.
If I can, I just use email from the phone, or outlook on my PC if there is a large attachment. It only does it on the Tilt. My outlook on the PC is only showing up the emails from other people, and not myself. I can see on the web interface my replies though if I log on.
I have it set up on the Tilt as an account as well, so I am not using the gmail interface thru the phone. Not sure how I have it setup or if it is a seperate email software. I just click on messages and added the email account. It doesn't matter where I reply from. I also have a Yahoo account set up and it doesn't do this.
Also, the phone info:
Duttys WM6.1 build 19700
radio 1.65.14.06
I had this problem once and I was because I forget to change the "[email protected]" that I used during the initial setup back to my actual e-mail address.
I just fixed the issue. I deleted the account from the phone and recreated a new one and set it up as IMAP. I think the issue at first was because I had it set up and let the phone download the settings for me and it configured it as POP. This time, I set up everything manually and tested it out and it appears to be fine now.