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well long story short I used to have a wizard g3 and in a drunken rage I (with the phone) ended up in a lake. I had that phone fully cid unlocked and my ipl/spl was in the 2.xx range and I had an updated rom and what not. anyways I got the wizard replaced with my insurance thank god and i just got the new one today. now I'm going through updating my rom and such. anyways, I ran the lokwiz tool and sim unlocked and superCID unlocked my phone and I was going to go try some new roms, btw this replacement phone is also a G3 version. and so I came across http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=61997 NEW Custom 2.26 ROM with CF2-SP1 Flash7 Java Rings Themes...
but I was reading on there and it said that my IPL/SPL have to be version 2.xx or higher, now on my old phone it was that way, but on this one its like 1.08 and I dunno how I upgraded them before cause I can't remember. anyways, I've been searching on the forums for a few hours... I'll keep looking, I hate posting for help with out doing some thorough research. thanks for your help in advance.
I did some more reading and I guess the ipl/spl are usually included in new roms and it's just not included on this rom. is there any way to just update your ipl/spl, that would be your bootloader version, right?
screw it I cant just find a bootloader upgrade, doing a full rom upgrade just to get the new bootloader... kinda sucks but ohh well.
thats what I had to do I used the official tmob 2.26 rom which did my ipl/spl - bootloader, then I flashed xelencins 2.26 rom which is like a "tmobile light" cooked rom which I'd reccomend for any tmob usa users.
then I did the radio only to get cingulars radio rom
it worked out fine, the less you flash your bootloader the better, if you f-up a bootloader flash your phone is a brick, your bootloader is the failsafe if a rom update goes bad...
bhang
all famous coockers just jumping around abt this issue, but no one tells an exact answer, is there any posibility to unlock G4 2.xx.0001. But main thing that pisses me off that if any of them will lose thier phones, they never will get a G3 device, cuz there's no vendor who manufacturing this version phones anymore. and after that they will focus on coocking ROMs so they can be puted to G4 wizards. this address : http://www.imei-check.co.uk/ only do sim unloking for G4. but some ppl claim that there is a way to unlock but no1 start a thread abt it.
and the question: were's a truth ? were's a information for ppl to whom u do this work that brings no money?
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all famous coockers just jumping around abt this issue, but no one tells an exact answer, is there any posibility to unlock G4 2.xx.0001. But main thing that pisses me off that if any of them will lose thier phones, they never will get a G3 device, cuz there's no vendor who manufacturing this version phones anymore. and after that they will focus on coocking ROMs so they can be puted to G4 wizards. this address : http://www.imei-check.co.uk/ only do sim unloking for G4. but some ppl claim that there is a way to unlock but no1 start a thread abt it.
and the question: were's a truth ? were's a information for ppl to whom u do this work that brings no money?
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If it is really possible, we won't have so many people complaining about their G4 being bricked... so no, we haven't found a way to CID unlock G4s as of now...
G4 Unlock sucessfully
I unlock my Wizard (G4) using this procedure, Yesterday. Now I'm able to install any ROM including the greatest Faria(3.0.0.0) ROM.
I like to thanks the support and effort of our cookers.
Millions Thkx
i found about 4 ppl here who break G4 device, including me . i think this is a big number. but anyway all we have to do is wait , maybe some1 will turn his knowledge into this problem. and we'll unleash the power of this masterpiece device
let me be clear once for all
the only place that you g4 can be CID UNLOCKED IS HERE
http://www.imei-check.co.uk/
its been tried and tested hence why g4 can install my rom.this does not mean that you can install other rom cookers rom.i have a way of cooking roms that are compatible with g4.
but you will atleast be able to to flash any provider rom.make sure it is above aku2.never try to install a rom with ipl/spl 1xxxx in a g4.you will brick it,even if it has been unlocked.
__s said:
i found about 4 ppl here who break G4 device, including me . i think this is a big number. but anyway all we have to do is wait , maybe some1 will turn his knowledge into this problem. and we'll unleash the power of this masterpiece device
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pearhaps i'm the 5th person who break his G4 they change it to me and they gave me one with SPL/IPL 2.21 no 000 neither 0001 i think it's G3 i'm i wrong ?
hica said:
pearhaps i'm the 5th person who break his G4 they change it to me and they gave me one with SPL/IPL 2.21 no 000 neither 0001 i think it's G3 i'm i wrong ?
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IT's G3 all right...
ok now i'm sure i have a G3 with Molski2.26 SPL/IPL 2.26
can i downgrade it and CID unlock it without probleme ? because i remember SPL / IPL = or >2.21 can not be CID unlocked using Lockwiz2b !!
if no can i install Faria 3.00 ROM and return back to any rom 2.xx ?
2.17.0001 (G4) unlocked
I unlocked mine at imei-check yesterday and upgraded to the latest Faria ROM no problem.
40$ for unlocking at http://www.imei-check.co.uk/ is not much but still the money
I'm surprised no-one has found a free way of doing it yet, clearly it's possible, hopefully someone in the know will get lumped with a G4 and be forced to find a way
I have no programing knowledge, but it seems like someone who does and has a G4 should be able to reverse engineer that utility that imei-check uses to figure out what they are doing?
You guys that have unlocked your G4, are you able to do a ROM backup to the SD card?
Me too yesterday did CID unlock my G4 in imei-check.co.uk and flashed Faria's ROM. Now I can install any AKU 2.X / 3.X rom (shipped/custom) without IPL/SPL.
Nishad
Once a G4 has been CID unlocked, can you flash a ROM with an IPL/SPL in it, as long as its not a 1.xx?
Basically can a G3 IPL/SPL be put onto a G4 device after the G4 has been CID unlocked, or will G4 users always have to use ROMs with the IPL/SPL removed from them?
d0ug said:
Basically can a G3 IPL/SPL be put onto a G4 device after the G4 has been CID unlocked, or will G4 users always have to use ROMs with the IPL/SPL removed from them?
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THAT's what you CAN'T do. Don't use a G3 ROM on a G4 device. It's not the IPL/SPL that's the problem. It's the bootloader. If you flash with a rom that's not compatible with a G4 device, and your G4 is unlocked, it will flash. But the next time you try to boot it it will not boot. That's because the bootloader for a G4 is different than a G3.
I paid imei-check to unlock my G4. I thought like you did, that I could now flash any rom. So I did. Then I bricked it because I flashed a G3 rom with a G3 bootloader. Silly me.
don't mix g3 & g4
I understand from reading this forum that G3 devices can have their IPL/SPL changed whereas the G4 devices cannot. I am a bit unclear if G4 devices can upgrade updwards (someone please confirm) but I know they cannot go down to IPL 1.xx
So the difference between G3 & G4 updates is that G4 updates do not have IPL/SPL components. I have taken a G3 Mr Clean update, unpacked it and repacked it without the IPL/SPL and it worked without any problems on my G4. Details on how to do this are in this forum.
Ok I am stuck for sure. I have Cingular 8125 with stock ipl/spl 2.25. I wanted to install faria Aku 3.2 rom and followed the instructions to a T. I downgraded to "CUSTOM__RUU_Wizard_1050412_WWE_101_11210_WWE," Then CID unlocked my phone with Lockwiz 0.2 by placing enablerapi.cab in phone and executing it. All went well. Then I upgraded to Moleski's "RUU_Molski.Biz_AKU2.3-226102_22610105_024711_WWE-30MB-CF2," and then tried to upgrade to Faria's "FARIA-HTC-WIZARD -3.2-RC1-8MB Rom." (Even removed sim, and hardreset as per instructions) Everything seem like it was going smooth. After installation, the only thing that changed was the flash screen nothing else. So I tried to flash back to the stock ipl/spl 2.25 and I get an error message regarding the nk.nbf file. Now, no matter what rom I try to install it stays at ipl: 1.01, spl: 2.26, GSM: 1.12.10, OS:1.5.4.2. Where did i go wrong.
d0ug said:
I have no programing knowledge, but it seems like someone who does and has a G4 should be able to reverse engineer that utility that imei-check uses to figure out what they are doing?
You guys that have unlocked your G4, are you able to do a ROM backup to the SD card?
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Trust me, there are people working on this ;-)
joshnat said:
THAT's what you CAN'T do. Don't use a G3 ROM on a G4 device. It's not the IPL/SPL that's the problem. It's the bootloader. If you flash with a rom that's not compatible with a G4 device, and your G4 is unlocked, it will flash. But the next time you try to boot it it will not boot. That's because the bootloader for a G4 is different than a G3.
I paid imei-check to unlock my G4. I thought like you did, that I could now flash any rom. So I did. Then I bricked it because I flashed a G3 rom with a G3 bootloader. Silly me.
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IPL/SPL is the bootloader and bootloader is the IPL/SPL.
THIS IS NOT A THREAD ON HOW TO UNLOCK YOUR DEVICE
Ok, rather than crapping on Faria's thread, I am going to start a discussion. I am curious about the G4. Yes, I know curiousity killed the cat. So far, reading the forums we have some people with G4's that can upgrade no problem, some that had to CID unlock to get certain roms to load (Faria's), and some that even after CID unlocking the ROMs will not load the extended rom. Personally, I fall in the last category.
Now, here is what had made me curious: So far, most IPL/SPL I have seen posted about is 2.21.0001 for the G4. Mine, on the other hand is 2.25.0001. So, for thos that have G4s, make a post about your IPL/SPL, if you had to CID unlock, HOW you unlocked, and your measure of success. Faria and I were discussing the possiblity that more is tied to the IPL/SPL than on the G3s. Or they are using tighter security. So if we have people with IPLs of 2.21.0001 that can load the full ROM after CID unlocking, and those that have 2.25.0001 that get the OS, but not the extended rom..it gives us a clue.
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THIS IS NOT A THREAD ON HOW TO UNLOCK YOUR DEVICE
Ok, rather than crapping on Faria's thread, I am going to start a discussion. I am curious about the G4. Yes, I know curiousity killed the cat. So far, reading the forums we have some people with G4's that can upgrade no problem, some that had to CID unlock to get certain roms to load (Faria's), and some that even after CID unlocking the ROMs will not load the extended rom. Personally, I fall in the last category.
Now, here is what had made me curious: So far, most IPL/SPL I have seen posted about is 2.21.0001 for the G4. Mine, on the other hand is 2.25.0001. So, for thos that have G4s, make a post about your IPL/SPL, if you had to CID unlock, HOW you unlocked, and your measure of success. Faria and I were discussing the possiblity that more is tied to the IPL/SPL than on the G3s. Or they are using tighter security. So if we have people with IPLs of 2.21.0001 that can load the full ROM after CID unlocking, and those that have 2.25.0001 that get the OS, but not the extended rom..it gives us a clue.
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I have a G4
I am
IPL 2.17.0001
SPL 2.17.0001
GSM 02.07.10
OS 2.17.7.2
I am still CID locked, and have not attempted to perform any ROM upgrades yet
I want to CID unlock my device so that i can do a rom backup to the SD card before attempting any kind of ROM upgrades.
How did you unlock your G4 device?
d0ug said:
I have a G4
I am
IPL 2.17.0001
SPL 2.17.0001
GSM 02.07.10
OS 2.17.7.2
How did you unlock your G4 device?
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Imei website. search for it
imei did it for me
IPL/SPL = 2.17.0001 which means I have a G4.
I ended up paying for unlocking at the imei website but it did the trick and solved my issues where previously i could only get the Mr Clean ROM upgrade to work. Other ROMs would only update the splash screen and the Extension ROM.
Yesterday I successfully updated to Faria's latest RC1 ROM with no issues.
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Imei website. search for it
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Thanks, I knew of the site, I just wasnt sure if it was a CID unlock or only SIM unlock. There was a post this morning about it only being a SIM unlock.
I got a CID-LOCKED G4:
IPL 2.21.0001
SPL 2.21.0001
OS 2.26.10.2
GSM 02.25.11
I succesfully installed:
RUU_Molski.Biz_226102_22610105_022511_G4_WWE-30MB
RUU_Molski.Biz_226102_22610105_022511_G4_WWE
Couldn't install:
RUU_Molski.Biz_AKU2.3-226102_22610105_024711_WWE-G4-30MB-CF2
Installer said something about compatibility issues
Didn't dare trying to install Faria new rom yet.
IPL/SPL 2.25.0001
CID locked G4
Extension ROM locked and empty after a failed flash with the official 2.25 ROM on HTC site, can't get anything to install into it. I've since learned to live with it and hope Cingular/HTC will release a newer ROM update that will fix this issue. I'm actually looking into upgrading to a 8525 but those suckers are a bit pricey at the moment so staying with my 8125 for now.
My G4 with bootloader 2.16.0001 had unlock with imei-check.co.uk. You can do it at the same site for 20GBP and U can successfully install any ROM (shipped or custom) without bootloader (I mean IPL/SPL). I recommended to stay in your current latest version of official ROM's bootloader and you will not have any issue.
Nishad
evilito said:
IPL/SPL 2.25.0001
CID locked G4
Extension ROM locked and empty after a failed flash with the official 2.25 ROM on HTC site, can't get anything to install into it. I've since learned to live with it and hope Cingular/HTC will release a newer ROM update that will fix this issue. I'm actually looking into upgrading to a 8525 but those suckers are a bit pricey at the moment so staying with my 8125 for now.
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That is exactly what happened to me!! Tried the HTC rom, and it killed my extended rom. crap. ok so HTC did this to us. I wonder how many other members tried the "official" rom and it crashed, therefore have not been able to get any extended rom loaded.
Same issue here with the extended ROM and 2.25.0001
The shipped ROM for cingular 8125 would fail.
Had to cook my own ROM and manually put the Extended_ROM folder in root and run the AutoRun.exe from phone to load it.
I was trying to find the way, how to cook a ROM, whitch will work on CID-locked Wizards and I thing: On CID locked phones we can flash only ROMs with nono edited os.nb without IPL/SPL
Example:
I have had a 2.21 ROM a I was able to flash 2.26.10.2 ROM without any changes.
If a decrasing the Pagepool, the the ROM was not working on CID locked
cptcafne,
I am sure you have seen my posts in faria's thread, but I will add my woes to this thread as well.
I have a 2.25.0001 G4 Wizard.
After doing the CID Unlocking through IMEI, I attempted to load faria's beta 4 rom. The ext rom has never installed for me. I think I might have tried installing the rom image from the htc website over the rom that shipped since I thought the HTC rom was newer (I was wrong). I belive this locked my ext rom from the get go. After testing it, I wanted to go back to the cingular 2.25 offcial rom to have a stable base to install the RC1. However, I got when re flashing the 2.25 rom I receive the invalid nb.nkf error message.
If Broken has cooked is own extended rom which has worked on his G4, perhaps a seperate G4 ext rom file is the resolution that faria should seek if there is no success in automating the process in the flash.
I wonder if the locking of the ext rom is an HTC or Cingular thing. Either way I wonder if they have the ability to tell us how to unlock the ext rom?
G4 unlocked by IMEI
IPL/SPL 2.16.0001
Radio 2.47.11
ROM 3.0.0.0 WWE
Faria's 8mb ROM installed without any problems (including the ExtROM) been running OK for about a week and only the occasional soft reset.
Installed over wizard Love 2.26 ROM
hello,
G4 Not unlocked :
IPL/SPL 2.17.0001
No rom upgrade possible
G4 2.17.0001
Qtek 9100
IPL/SPL 2.17.0001
CID unlocked by the IMEI UK site.
Running the latest 3.0.0 RC1 Faria ROM - no issues with the upgrade.
Prior to CID unlock I could only upgrade the splash screen and the ExtROM.
I haven't had the nerve to attempt an IPL/SPL upgrade - not even sure what benefits it would bring.
In this thread (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=249359&highlight=unlock+extended+rom) there is a way to unlock the extended Rom. However when I do this, all I see is the cingular ext rom files that are installed during the "customization" process. I am wondering if Cingular is in fact locking the ext rom so that no matter what ROM is flashed the ext rom will always contain the Cingular programs and files that were shipped with the phone.
I have yet to see a user with an IPL/SPL of 2.25.0001 be able to install any ext roms.
Jason
fla242 said:
hello,
G4 Not unlocked :
IPL/SPL 2.17.001
No rom upgrade possible
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are you sure your device is G4????? cuz ipl spl are ends with .001 not .0001
Awais said:
are you sure your device is G4????? cuz ipl spl are ends with .001 not .0001
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Just to clarify, G4 devices have an IPL/SPL of 2.xx.0001. If the IPL/SPL do not appear in that format when you reset your device than you have a G3 device.
jpryor said:
cptcafne,
I am sure you have seen my posts in faria's thread, but I will add my woes to this thread as well.
I have a 2.25.0001 G4 Wizard.
After doing the CID Unlocking through IMEI, I attempted to load faria's beta 4 rom. The ext rom has never installed for me. I think I might have tried installing the rom image from the htc website over the rom that shipped since I thought the HTC rom was newer (I was wrong). I belive this locked my ext rom from the get go. After testing it, I wanted to go back to the cingular 2.25 offcial rom to have a stable base to install the RC1. However, I got when re flashing the 2.25 rom I receive the invalid nb.nkf error message.
If Broken has cooked is own extended rom which has worked on his G4, perhaps a seperate G4 ext rom file is the resolution that faria should seek if there is no success in automating the process in the flash.
I wonder if the locking of the ext rom is an HTC or Cingular thing. Either way I wonder if they have the ability to tell us how to unlock the ext rom?
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Yeah, that is what looks like happened. so far from what I seen on the boards, if someone tried to install the HTC Update and it failed, then the ext rom was locked. or even removed, I am not sure.
Jpryor said:
In this thread (http://forum.xda-developers.com/show...extended+ rom) there is a way to unlock the extended Rom. However when I do this, all I see is the cingular ext rom files that are installed during the "customization" process. I am wondering if Cingular is in fact locking the ext rom so that no matter what ROM is flashed the ext rom will always contain the Cingular programs and files that were shipped with the phone.
I have yet to see a user with an IPL/SPL of 2.25.0001 be able to install any ext roms.
Jason
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Are you sure ? I could have sworn that some members with 2.25.0001 were able to install custom roms completely. Can anyone confirm this for us ?
I have a G4, and the original IPL/SPL was 2.25.0001. I tried all the free options to CID unlock (they worked for SIM unlock), but not worked. So I paid the £20 to IMEI-Check for the unlock key. With that I fully CID unlocked my device.
I installed the stock T-Mobile USA 2.26 ROM, and now my IPL/SPL is 2.26.0001. (I switched carriers from Cingular to T-Mobile, but prefer the 8125's keyboard to the MDA's, so I wanted to keep my existing device.)
Even though my 8125 was running just fine on a Molski ROM I got months ago, I had to go fiddle with it and see what kind of damage I could do. Now, I have myself stuck at IPL 1.01, SPL 2.26, GSM 01.12.10 and can't seem to find a way to get my IPL back to the 2.xx range. Since there are no longer any ROMs posted here, I am afraid to try some of the ones I am finding elsewhere since I don't know if I will turn my Wizard into a paper weight.
Does anyone know what ROM would be the best to use to give me a newer NBF so I can just put the current factory ROM on? I had read that the MrClean_RUU_WIZARD_224a_AKU23_WWE would be the right one, but I can't find it anywhere now.
Beeker said:
Even though my 8125 was running just fine on a Molski ROM I got months ago, I had to go fiddle with it and see what kind of damage I could do. Now, I have myself stuck at IPL 1.01, SPL 2.26, GSM 01.12.10 and can't seem to find a way to get my IPL back to the 2.xx range. Since there are no longer any ROMs posted here, I am afraid to try some of the ones I am finding elsewhere since I don't know if I will turn my Wizard into a paper weight.
Does anyone know what ROM would be the best to use to give me a newer NBF so I can just put the current factory ROM on?
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Run the T-mobile 2.26 rom which you should be able to get from tmobiles site. that will get you to ipl and spl 2.26
nottoosmart said:
Run the T-mobile 2.26 rom which you should be able to get from tmobiles site. that will get you to ipl and spl 2.26
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Appreciate the thought, but the T-Mobile site requests that I enter my phone number, which is not a T-mobile number, but a Cingular number.
Beeker said:
Appreciate the thought, but the T-Mobile site requests that I enter my phone number, which is not a T-mobile number, but a Cingular number.
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Then grab the rom from Cingular's site. I believe it will get you to IPL/SPL 2.25.
Any AKU2 carrier rom will help you (assuming you are CID unlocked since you previously had Molski's rom installed) In any case if you are a cingular customer and got your phone through them normally even if it is CID locked it is locked to Cingular and you can flash their rom.
That's the whole base of the problem here, as I said in the first post my IPL is only 1.01, so trying to install the Cingular ROM gives me the infamous "Please get a newer NBF file" error. I've tried everything I can to take care of the problem, but the needed ROMs to work back up to where I need to be are all gone.
Wizard Love and the Button ROMs are both available on PirateBay. Use the Button to do a CID Unlock again, or use Wizard Love to try to just recover.
As for the T-Mobile site, if you use the link in the sticky for how to CID Unlock by Dr. P, that one does not ask for a phone number. Takes you directly to the place where you do the download (I just downloaded it again yesterday and can email it to you if you need it (PM me with your email)).
Beeker said:
That's the whole base of the problem here, as I said in the first post my IPL is only 1.01, so trying to install the Cingular ROM gives me the infamous "Please get a newer NBF file" error. I've tried everything I can to take care of the problem, but the needed ROMs to work back up to where I need to be are all gone.
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Sorry, I didn't get out of your first post that you had tried the offical Cingular ROM just that you wanted to end up on it. Read through the G3 unlocking sticky. The button 1.05 rom should do the trick. I think the link in there is working though it may be a slow download. I no longer have any wizard roms on my system or I would host it so you could grab it real quick.
I haven't done this before (so take it for what its worth) but you could pull the Cingular RUU file apart with WinRAR, and get the nk.nbf file out of it and run that with a Rom Update Utility NOID (that comes with most of the custom ROMs) and that should allow you to flash it no matter what the IPL/SPL are at as I understand it. (so you shouldn't get the need newer message).
Okay, download the button ROM and the T-Mobile ROM now as well as printing out the unlocking guide. I know I've done this before, but it was a long time ago.
Thanks for the help guys!!!
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You know what, just reading the ENTIRE FRIGGEN INSTRUCTIONS solved the problem. One little line towards the end of Doc's instructions ... "A last note. If you DO ever go back to the 1.05 ROM for any reason you need to repeat the lokiwiz steps as you won't be able to install a 2.x IPL/SPL bootloader."
That's it, one little line on the last page that I just skimmed over and that's all it was in the end.
Hello Forum
Hoping people can assit me with a issue i am having with upgrading my G4 Wizard to WM6
My G4 was on a T-Mobile ROM, which i then upgraded to the latest T-Mobile ROM which changed my IPL/SPL to 3.08 when before it was on a 2.XX.
I tried to upload a WM6 ROM when the flush just stalls on the boatloader and onscreen its shows that the ROM images is not compatiable etc...
i then flushed the ROM to a WM5 custom ROM which i found on the formum but searching for 3.08 ROM and tested and worked.
I then tried a WM6 ROM and still having issues, hoping someon can shed some light on this issue i have. I have checked the forums for this issue, but seem to be hitting a brick wall, and hoping someone may be help me kick the wall down.
PS this is my first thread, as i am a newbie,I have read about the different ROMs and how to flush a ROM, and how to check if the wizard is CID/SIM unlocked
Unlocked CID and SIM
IPL:> 3.08.001
SPL:> 3.08.001
GSM:> 02.69.11
OS:> 2.26.10.2
much appricated...
First, check again if your IPL/SPL version ends with 001 not 0001. If it is .001, then it is a G3, not G4.
If it is a G3, flash Button's ROM and use Wizard Service Tool to CID unlock it.
Or if it is a G4, flash with your original stock ROM and install HardSPL.