Got myself in a bind - 8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading

Even though my 8125 was running just fine on a Molski ROM I got months ago, I had to go fiddle with it and see what kind of damage I could do. Now, I have myself stuck at IPL 1.01, SPL 2.26, GSM 01.12.10 and can't seem to find a way to get my IPL back to the 2.xx range. Since there are no longer any ROMs posted here, I am afraid to try some of the ones I am finding elsewhere since I don't know if I will turn my Wizard into a paper weight.
Does anyone know what ROM would be the best to use to give me a newer NBF so I can just put the current factory ROM on? I had read that the MrClean_RUU_WIZARD_224a_AKU23_WWE would be the right one, but I can't find it anywhere now.

Beeker said:
Even though my 8125 was running just fine on a Molski ROM I got months ago, I had to go fiddle with it and see what kind of damage I could do. Now, I have myself stuck at IPL 1.01, SPL 2.26, GSM 01.12.10 and can't seem to find a way to get my IPL back to the 2.xx range. Since there are no longer any ROMs posted here, I am afraid to try some of the ones I am finding elsewhere since I don't know if I will turn my Wizard into a paper weight.
Does anyone know what ROM would be the best to use to give me a newer NBF so I can just put the current factory ROM on?
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Run the T-mobile 2.26 rom which you should be able to get from tmobiles site. that will get you to ipl and spl 2.26

nottoosmart said:
Run the T-mobile 2.26 rom which you should be able to get from tmobiles site. that will get you to ipl and spl 2.26
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Appreciate the thought, but the T-Mobile site requests that I enter my phone number, which is not a T-mobile number, but a Cingular number.

Beeker said:
Appreciate the thought, but the T-Mobile site requests that I enter my phone number, which is not a T-mobile number, but a Cingular number.
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Then grab the rom from Cingular's site. I believe it will get you to IPL/SPL 2.25.
Any AKU2 carrier rom will help you (assuming you are CID unlocked since you previously had Molski's rom installed) In any case if you are a cingular customer and got your phone through them normally even if it is CID locked it is locked to Cingular and you can flash their rom.

That's the whole base of the problem here, as I said in the first post my IPL is only 1.01, so trying to install the Cingular ROM gives me the infamous "Please get a newer NBF file" error. I've tried everything I can to take care of the problem, but the needed ROMs to work back up to where I need to be are all gone.

Wizard Love and the Button ROMs are both available on PirateBay. Use the Button to do a CID Unlock again, or use Wizard Love to try to just recover.
As for the T-Mobile site, if you use the link in the sticky for how to CID Unlock by Dr. P, that one does not ask for a phone number. Takes you directly to the place where you do the download (I just downloaded it again yesterday and can email it to you if you need it (PM me with your email)).

Beeker said:
That's the whole base of the problem here, as I said in the first post my IPL is only 1.01, so trying to install the Cingular ROM gives me the infamous "Please get a newer NBF file" error. I've tried everything I can to take care of the problem, but the needed ROMs to work back up to where I need to be are all gone.
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Sorry, I didn't get out of your first post that you had tried the offical Cingular ROM just that you wanted to end up on it. Read through the G3 unlocking sticky. The button 1.05 rom should do the trick. I think the link in there is working though it may be a slow download. I no longer have any wizard roms on my system or I would host it so you could grab it real quick.

I haven't done this before (so take it for what its worth) but you could pull the Cingular RUU file apart with WinRAR, and get the nk.nbf file out of it and run that with a Rom Update Utility NOID (that comes with most of the custom ROMs) and that should allow you to flash it no matter what the IPL/SPL are at as I understand it. (so you shouldn't get the need newer message).

Okay, download the button ROM and the T-Mobile ROM now as well as printing out the unlocking guide. I know I've done this before, but it was a long time ago.
Thanks for the help guys!!!
---EDIT---
You know what, just reading the ENTIRE FRIGGEN INSTRUCTIONS solved the problem. One little line towards the end of Doc's instructions ... "A last note. If you DO ever go back to the 1.05 ROM for any reason you need to repeat the lokiwiz steps as you won't be able to install a 2.x IPL/SPL bootloader."
That's it, one little line on the last page that I just skimmed over and that's all it was in the end.

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Please Assist- Cingular 8125 and downgrade options(if any)

I have currently the following:
IPL 2.25
SPL 2.25
GSM 2.25.11
OS 2.25.11.1
I am a self proclaimed newb when it comes to cell phone mods, however i've started to research on this site and read a few of faria's and other people threads. I have come to the conclusion i'd like to test out summiters AKUv2.3 ROM, however from what im reading it seems since my phone is NOT CID locked i can not first downgrade to unlock the CID (needing what i believe is an <v2.21) to then flash the rom to his custome rom. although i also saw where someone said they used a cingular shipped rom to downgrade their phone, i believe my phone originally came with v1.18. my other option is to return this phone to the carrier and get another phone which would ship with the v.1.18 or whatever it was and then i can follow faria's thread..
am i correct? or is there the ability to downgrade with my current setup
Thank you, great site, loads of info
If your phone is CID locked (and it is CID locked by default unless you have unlocked it) upgrading to the 2.25 ROM has prevented you from using the free tools on this site to do the unlock.
If you want to CID unlock you will have to pay for the http://imei-check.co.uk service. It claims to do both a SIM and CID unlock and is currently the only known way to CID unlock ROMs that are version 2.21 and higher. If you wait, a free solution will no doubt come out but if you want it now, it's going to cost you £20/$40.
Once the Wizard is CID unlocked you can flash any Wizard ROM you choose to it.
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aixenv said:
I have currently the following:
IPL 2.25
SPL 2.25
GSM 2.25.11
OS 2.25.11.1
I am a self proclaimed newb when it comes to cell phone mods, however i've started to research on this site and read a few of faria's and other people threads. I have come to the conclusion i'd like to test out summiters AKUv2.3 ROM, however from what im reading it seems since my phone is NOT CID locked i can not first downgrade to unlock the CID (needing what i believe is an <v2.21) to then flash the rom to his custome rom. although i also saw where someone said they used a cingular shipped rom to downgrade their phone, i believe my phone originally came with v1.18. my other option is to return this phone to the carrier and get another phone which would ship with the v.1.18 or whatever it was and then i can follow faria's thread..
am i correct? or is there the ability to downgrade with my current setup
Thank you, great site, loads of info
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You'll want to flash to the original shipping rom which is on the xda-dev ftp at:
ftp://xda:[email protected]/Wizard/Roms/Cingular/Cingular_RUU_1.8.11.1.WWE.ship.exe
Once that's installed, use awizard or lokiwiz to CID unlock. And once that's done, flash to whichever ROM floats your boat.
Post back here if you run into any snags and can't resolve it reading through the existing messages.
Are you an AIX admin?
ahh yes im now finding on the ftp server
Cingular_RUU_1.8.11.1.WWE.ship.exe
yes linux/UNIX guru (AIX, FreeBSD, SUSE, etc) & phone noob, go figure..
im seeing conflicting statements here, 1 saying i can just downgrade to my shipped rom, the other saying i cant.
i received the phone yesterday, read up on some of the apps to try out, saw the new rom out, decided to try that out, did a soft reset on cingular extrom and then well have what i have, now i wanted to play a little more and test other peoples roms out and yet with no CID lock which would be the default i was under the impression i was SoL.. is that not correct? JUST to reverify with conflicting reports
after doing some more research i'm not sure which way is the accurate position, i read on one forum that there is a locking done once you go past the v2.21 rom so you cant downgrade to then Cid unlock, but then i've read other places you can, im downloading the v1.8.11.1 file and i guess ill find out soon enough
aixenv said:
after doing some more research i'm not sure which way is the accurate position, i read on one forum that there is a locking done once you go past the v2.21 rom so you cant downgrade to then Cid unlock, but then i've read other places you can, im downloading the v1.8.11.1 file and i guess ill find out soon enough
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Try it, the worst that will happen is that you get an error saying that you can't flash an older Rom (than what is already installed).
well the update (downgrade to v1.8 shipped rom from 2.25) util is at 75% atm, .. will update accordingly....
ok well it ran the "downgrade" with no problems, i soft reset on the cingular apps, and when the system boots back up i get the following:
IPL = 1.08
SPL = 2.25
GSM = 1.09.11
OS = 1.8.11.1
so from what ive read on the forums i think it's a good thing i asked them to overnight me a new phone due to faulty reception (which is true it doesn't get the reception a buddies gets)..because i would assume with the SPL at > 2.25 i wouldnt be able to unlock the CID, correct?

Downgradeing HTC Wizard

Hi,
I've installed the latest AKU 3.2 Version on my Wizard.
Now i've wanted to downgrade to AKU 2.0 (with the original Loader Provided from "Vario_AKU2.0_05-2006.exe") and the tool tells me it is not possible. Is there a way to make it run?
Thanks a lot
It looks like nobody has an idea how to downgrade from SPL2.xx en that sucks! noboby warns about it when supplying new ROMS..
I have the same problem with a TMobile Vario that needs to be flashed to stock ROM\IPL\SPL..
I've found a way to do it but its for the HTC Thyfoon and might not work with the Wizard..
Nobody warns ??????????????????????????
Gramma told me that if I don't have something nice to say to keep quiet...
Maybe if you downgrade to a 1.xx ROM first you can then go back to your AKU 2.
ftp://xda:[email protected]__RUU_Wizard_1050412_WWE_101_11210_WWE.exe
Good luck.
mforce said:
It looks like nobody has an idea how to downgrade from SPL2.xx en that sucks! noboby warns about it when supplying new ROMS..
I have the same problem with a TMobile Vario that needs to be flashed to stock ROM\IPL\SPL..
I've found a way to do it but its for the HTC Thyfoon and might not work with the Wizard..
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There are tons of threads on this issue already... maybe if you are hardworking enough to search for it yourself, you won't even have that problem at all... warnings are placed everywhere... please read before you even proceed to upgrade your rom...
Dr Puttingham said:
Gramma told me that if I don't have something nice to say to keep quiet...
Maybe if you downgrade to a 1.xx ROM first you can then go back to your AKU 2.
ftp://xda:[email protected]__RUU_Wizard_1050412_WWE_101_11210_WWE.exe
Good luck.
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Already tried that, not working.. btw wise gramma
vseehua said:
There are tons of threads on this issue already... maybe if you are hardworking enough to search for it yourself, you won't even have that problem at all... warnings are placed everywhere... please read before you even proceed to upgrade your rom...
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I've searched for hours the two solutions Boots 1.05 end Cingular 1.8 do not work but if you are so sure their is an solution ill keep searching
Ofcource I know about warnings but ive NEVER seen an warning about SPL not being able to downgrade..
Possible solution
A German mate told me that there is a solution
Try to load the Qtec Custom Rom from ...
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Wizard_Upgrades
.. and Flash it to your Wizard. After that is should be possible to load older Roms without any problems.
I did not have tested it... (Please tell me if its works or not).
mforce said:
Already tried that, not working.. btw wise gramma
I've searched for hours the two solutions Boots 1.05 end Cingular 1.8 do not work but if you are so sure their is an solution ill keep searching
Ofcource I know about warnings but ive NEVER seen an warning about SPL not being able to downgrade..
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If you have a G3 device you can downgrade your IPL/SPL. I've done it my Cingular 8125 and it's 3 replacement PDA's numerous times. In addition I've downgraded at least 20 phones to 1.05 so's I could unlock and then upgrade. And then done it again. If you follow faria's instructions that is.... Now I HAVE had to flash the 1.05 twice to get the SPL down to 1.05. Humor us huh?
Note: I realize that Faria says that it doesn't work above 2.21 but I have performed this procedure on at least a dozen "out of the box" Cingular 2.25's. Downgrade to 1.05. Extract lokiwiz to the root of your C drive. Copy enablerapi.cab to your device (I know that you've unlocked your device, just indulge me please ) Execute enablerapi.cab from your PDA. get to a Dos prompt and run lokiwiz from the C prompt. Unlock CID and SIM. It WILL reboot each time. If your IPL / SPL still show a 2.x reflash again with the 1.05.
If you do this I'll just about guarantee that it'll work
Good Luck!
Dr Puttingham said:
If you have a G3 device you can downgrade your IPL/SPL. Unlock CID and SIM. It WILL reboot each time. If your IPL / SPL still show a 2.x reflash again with the 1.05.
If you do this I'll just about guarantee that it'll work
Good Luck!
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Your garantee worked great fabulous work ! I downgraded my Dutch MDA Vario from official Tmobile Rom RUU_Prodigy_2210205_22102108_021911_TMO_NL_DUT_Ship.exe with 2.21 IPL.SPL to 1.05. Indeed needed to run WWE flashrom - did the Lockwiz2b CID unlock and ran the Flashrom WWE again and voila IPL/SPL 1.01 - OS 1.5.4.2 -GSM 1.12.10.0 - Thanks a lot!!
I owe you one ..
Hi,
i want to downgrade my 2.21 G3 Vario as well which is NLD and locked. I believe that I know all the steps neccesary and already downed the QTEK custom ROM. Can I just execute this ROM and have it install the older version on my Vario, run lokiwiz02b and upgrade again?
One part I didn't find on the forum was the need to run "WWE flashrom" again to downgrade to 1.05
What is this WWE flashrom, is it a seperate tool besides the Custom rom and if yes where do I get it?
thanks,
stefan
A2Z said:
Your garantee worked great fabulous work ! I downgraded my Dutch MDA Vario from official Tmobile Rom RUU_Prodigy_2210205_22102108_021911_TMO_NL_DUT_Ship.exe with 2.21 IPL.SPL to 1.05. Indeed needed to run WWE flashrom - did the Lockwiz2b CID unlock and ran the Flashrom WWE again and voila IPL/SPL 1.01 - OS 1.5.4.2 -GSM 1.12.10.0 - Thanks a lot!!
I owe you one ..
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Great! it works
stefan1975 said:
Hi,
i want to downgrade my 2.21 G3 Vario as well which is NLD and locked. I believe that I know all the steps neccesary and already downed the QTEK custom ROM. Can I just execute this ROM and have it install the older version on my Vario, run lokiwiz02b and upgrade again?
One part I didn't find on the forum was the need to run "WWE flashrom" again to downgrade to 1.05
What is this WWE flashrom, is it a seperate tool besides the Custom rom and if yes where do I get it?
thanks,
stefan
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This one.. (flash it 2 times!)
ftp://xda:[email protected]__RUU_Wizard_1050412_WWE_101_11210_WWE.exe
Seppl82 said:
A German mate told me that there is a solution
Try to load the Qtec Custom Rom from ...
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Wizard_Upgrades
.. and Flash it to your Wizard. After that is should be possible to load older Roms without any problems.
I did not have tested it... (Please tell me if its works or not).
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Does NOT work, thnx anyway
I have the same problem.
But i allready downgaded with the Custom version.
When i restart i can see. it is IPL 1.01 and SPL 2.26
Is it possilble olso downgrade the SPL (i do not exactrly know what it is)
Downgrading/Upgrading
Dr P. or anyone else,
I've seen "somewhere on this board" a description of how to flash "any rom" without having to downgrade to 1.05, it stated to change the .exe file to a .rar and then change the ruu file to one that is not looking for the current phone status. I've tried that and have not had success in doing so. IF there is infact a way to do this, could someone please provide a blow by blow scenario to accomplish it?
Thanks,
vpu2
HighVoltage said:
I have the same problem.
But i allready downgaded with the Custom version.
When i restart i can see. it is IPL 1.01 and SPL 2.26
Is it possilble olso downgrade the SPL (i do not exactrly know what it is)
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Bet you didn't run the 1.05 a second time as I stated before. I'm actually doing a brand new Cingular G3 2.25 as we speak. I downgraded to 1.05, SPL still says 2.25. Copied enablerapi to the device and executed it from the device. Extracted lokiwiz to the root of my E drive (on my new thinkpad that I'm setting up at the same time...) It rebooted twice as it's susposed to when you unlock the CID and the SIM. Ran the downgrade a second time and both IPL and SPL are 1.01, the GSM is 1.12.10.0 and the OS is 1.5.4.2.... every freak'n time I do this, probably close to two dozen Cingular 8125's. If it don't work for you I just don't know what more to tell ya....
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Bet you didn't run the 1.05 a second time as I stated before. I'm actually doing a brand new Cingular G3 2.25 as we speak. I downgraded to 1.05, SPL still says 2.25. Copied enablerapi to the device and executed it from the device. Extracted lokiwiz to the root of my E drive (on my new thinkpad that I'm setting up at the same time...) It rebooted twice as it's susposed to when you unlock the CID and the SIM. Ran the downgrade a second time and both IPL and SPL are 1.01, the GSM is 1.12.10.0 and the OS is 1.5.4.2.... every freak'n time I do this, probably close to two dozen Cingular 8125's. If it don't work for you I just don't know what more to tell ya....
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Hi Guys,
I tried everything but it doesn't help das anyone had another option?
Thanks
could you be any vaguer? "tried everything" is so informative. report exactly the steps you've tried please.
Dr Puttingham said:
could you be any vaguer? "tried everything" is so informative. report exactly the steps you've tried please.
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I tried everything what everybody said in this post.
Mr hokkie, please humble me and document exactly what device you own and your exact IPL/SPL/OS/GSM versions. Beacuase I just don't think that you've got in in ya to be my first failure. Show me what you got
I own a Dutch MDA Vario from T-mobile, which has a T-mobile SIM-lock. I want to remove the SIM-lock, so I tried http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=249474&page=1. Unfortunately it returned an error, it appears I have a 2.21 ROM, so I want to downgrade the rom, which brought me to this thread.
I've downloaded the CUSTOM_RUU_Wizard_1050412_WWE_101_11210_WWE.exe, and ran it. I get the first few screens (the caution-screen, the prepare-screen, the Update screen, the verify screen and the last screen). After that I get the screen where a percentage bar should start moving. My phone-screen is now divided in about four horizontal parts.
The first one is red-fading to black, and it reads RUU on the top-right, and the line below it reads IPL 2.21.0001. The last line in this part reads SPL 2.21.0001.
The second part is similar to the first, but it is green, without any text. The third part is similar to the green one, except it's blue.
The last part is smaller than the previous parts, it's plain white (about two lines high) and reads USB.
On my PC I get a screen telling me:
ERROR[300]: INVALID UPDATE TOOL
This Udate Uility cannot be used for your PDA Phone. Please get newer Update Utillity.
What am I doing wrong here? (BTW: I'm a computer-expert and a phone-noob)
By the way, the verify screen reads:
From:
Model ID: WIZARD
Image Version: 1.2.0.0
Language: ENGLISH
To:
Model ID: Prodigy
Image version:
Language: WWE

Some help please

I am pulling my hair out here...
I have an 8125, with the following
Sim Carrier and Rom = T-Mobile
IPL/SPL=3.08
GSM=01.12.10
OS=1.5.4.2
Rom Version=1.5.4.2 WWE
Radio Version 01.12.10
I followed the two main tutorials on how to SIM and CID unlock, got both my IPL and SPL to match, flashed in the TMo Rom and thought all was good.
Now I was poking around and see that it is not a 2.26 rom that is on there but it is a 1.5.4.2. So what do I do, I go to
http://www.t-mobile.com/wmupgrade/
to get the Mobile MDA Software Version (2.26.10.2)
and when I run the file that gets downloaded, it gives me a
ERROR [296] : UPGRADE ONLY
Now, does it see that the phone is infact not an MDA and is a 8125 and does not like it?
So now from this point, (I have done my research and forum search, and RTFM many times so pleae dont blast me) what do I need to do to get the updated 2.26 rom, and eventually get up to the WM6.
I appreciate all the help, as I am seriously ready to have phone meet wall.
177media said:
I am pulling my hair out here...
I have an 8125, with the following
Sim Carrier and Rom = T-Mobile
IPL/SPL=3.08
GSM=01.12.10
OS=1.5.4.2
Rom Version=1.5.4.2 WWE
Radio Version 01.12.10
I followed the two main tutorials on how to SIM and CID unlock, got both my IPL and SPL to match, flashed in the TMo Rom and thought all was good.
Now I was poking around and see that it is not a 2.26 rom that is on there but it is a 1.5.4.2. So what do I do, I go to
http://www.t-mobile.com/wmupgrade/
to get the Mobile MDA Software Version (2.26.10.2)
and when I run the file that gets downloaded, it gives me a
ERROR [296] : UPGRADE ONLY
Now, does it see that the phone is infact not an MDA and is a 8125 and does not like it?
So now from this point, (I have done my research and forum search, and RTFM many times so pleae dont blast me) what do I need to do to get the updated 2.26 rom, and eventually get up to the WM6.
I appreciate all the help, as I am seriously ready to have phone meet wall.
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You have already flashed newer bootloaders that 2.26. You have 3.08. Why do you need to go back to 2.26? IF you are CID unlocked (did you take your bootloaders down to 1.xx then run lokiwiz, and then bring them up to 3.08?) you should be able to flash your WM6 rom now. Have you tried?
Zzan said:
You have already flashed newer bootloaders that 2.26. You have 3.08. Why do you need to go back to 2.26? IF you are CID unlocked (did you take your bootloaders down to 1.xx then run lokiwiz, and then bring them up to 3.08?) you should be able to flash your WM6 rom now. Have you tried?
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I think he upgraded the IPL/SPL alone from button's 1.01 and now can't flash any ROM since 3.08 can't handle 1.5 OS.
My advise is to flash IPL/SPL 1.01 and from there flash a 2.26 but... there are a lot of people mentioning IPL 3.08 and SPL 1.xx meaning that IPL won't allow to downgrade. I think it's up to him...
my understanding is that you shouldn't be going to an ipl/spl of 3.xx unless you are flashing from an ipl/spl of 2.xx. (based on thread information from old roms of molski and faria, last days of wm5 roms).
if possible, you should try to reflash back to 1.05 (i think they were customized so you shouldn't have problems).
official t-mobile roms won't let you downgrade to my understanding...at least not from one official t-mobile to another official (3.08 --> 2.26 or 2.26 -->1.80).
so...retry to flash buttons 1.05, then move up to 2.26...and then if you really want to flash again to 3.08.
That is exactly what I figured out last night.
When I RTFM where it says EDIT STEP 17: Flash to 3.08 .......
I took that as a instad of thinking that it contained the 2.16 rom as well as the IPL/SPL upgrades.
So I went through reflashed both back down to buttons 1.05 and then reflashed back up to 2.26 and then to WM6, everything is dandy and it is all becuase of the wonderful people here. I can not say it enough. This place is the greatest! And thank you all yet again.
I'm glad you managed to save your phone. Not many these days by counting the number of "Help" threads
Can i ask you to please give something back to the forum? please check my signature and visit the "Data crashes" solution thread. Tx
Definitly will.

Wizard_love

Can someone point me to an English version of this? The only one I can find linked on this site is http://rs25.rapidshare.com/files/17792050/Wizard_Love_2.26.10.2_WWE_Novii_CF2.rar. This is in another language (Italian maybe) and I keep getting a "300" error. Thanks.
sdl said:
Can someone point me to an English version of this? The only one I can find linked on this site is http://rs25.rapidshare.com/files/17792050/Wizard_Love_2.26.10.2_WWE_Novii_CF2.rar. This is in another language (Italian maybe) and I keep getting a "300" error. Thanks.
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Are you sure you have a G4 ?
No, I have a G3. But according to "How to flash a new ROM to your Wizard... a little tutorial!" http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=298613, if I have an IPL/SPL of 2.xx, I need the wizard_love rom. Read last sentence of G.2.
I used the button ROM. It brought my IPL down to 1.01, but my SPL is still 2.25. Is that OK to proceed?
Keep reflashing the button ROM until both your IPL and SPL are 1.xx. It may take a few times. I think I've read where it's taken some people as many as 7 or 8 times to get them both down. Be patient and make sure your battery is good and charged and when you get them both down, then run lokiwiz to unlock your phone.
xeno1 said:
Keep reflashing the button ROM until both your IPL and SPL are 1.xx. It may take a few times. I think I've read where it's taken some people as many as 7 or 8 times to get them both down. Be patient and make sure your battery is good and charged and when you get them both down, then run lokiwiz to unlock your phone.
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After at least 15 flashes with button, still no luck. I started with Cingular 2.25.
The button I am using is CUSTOM__RUU_Wizard_1050412_WWE_101_11210_WWE.exe.
My IPL is down to 1.01, but my SPL is still 2.25. How in the world do I get passed this?
It really sucks when you can't get past the first step .
P.S. Should the SIM be in the unit during the flash? I've tried it both ways.
Not sure if it matters if the sim in is in it or not, but make sure your SD card is out because that causes problems a lot of times. Here, download and try this, it is an IPL/SPL updater only. It has version 1.05 of both which might be able to bring your SPL down so you can unlock your phone.
xeno1 said:
Not sure if it matters if the sim in is in it or not, but make sure your SD card is out because that causes problems a lot of times. Here, download and try this, it is an IPL/SPL updater only. It has version 1.05 of both which might be able to bring your SPL down so you can unlock your phone.
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Tried it several times. No luck, SPL still stuck at 2.25, but thanks for the help. Anyone else out there with this problem?
That's weird, usually it happens the other way around and people get their IPL stuck at 1.xx when they try to upgrade back to a 2.xx but the SPL upgrades without a problem. Since you already have the button ROM on there, go ahead and try and see if it will CID unlock for you. Run lokiwiz and see if it gives you any errors and if not, download and install Wizard Service Tools on to your computer and then run it and click the CID actions button to see if it tells you that your CID is unlocked. If it does then your safe to start upgrading. For some reason I have a feeling it might just work for you.
same here, got the cingular 8125 and flashed the rom. I can not get the spl down. I have 2.25 as well. ahhh what other rom should be good for a cid unlock
also i am on activesync as "guest" dont know if this matters
ctheodores said:
also i am on activesync as "guest" dont know if this matters
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That doesn't matter.
Try flashing Tmobile 2.26 then again the 1.05 Button ROM
From what i know the Wizard Love is only for G4 Users. G3 users should flash Tmobile stoc 2.26
not all g3 are the same!!
i have experienced the same with my g3 (IPL/SPL 2.18) when i tryed to downgrade the spl... ipl 1.05 and spl 2.18 still remain... just try to unlock spl with lokiwiz02b and relax... i tried to install tnt 5.0 23 times before i unlocked the spl... just read and apply this : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=285435
i downgraded and reupgraded my spl locked g3 (qtek 9100) in 45 minutes at the state of art...
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tnx to all people that try and try and try and teach us with his experience...
I have found that the SPL doesn't matter. Go ahead and run lokiwiz and you will be ok.
yeah i got throught just run lokiwiz02b cid unlock and then update to tmo rom

Help on Cingular 8125

I have bought this old phone coz it costs less than other cellphones with Wi-fi. What I really need is to install or have Voip/sip in it. But browsing and searching for answers on how to put voip in it made me stumble on this forum
i've been reading these past few days and as I read on, I am learning something and also being more confused for all the terms and other stuffs.
I would appreciate if somebody could help me.
What I have is unlocked Cingular 8125 (using my own sim via a local network here in Saipan, USA) with the following:
WM5.0 OS 5.1.195 (Build 14928.2.2.0)
IPL 2.25
SPL 2.25
GSM 02.25.11
OS 2.25.11.1
I checked other posts and this page and found below which are not compatible with my device:
If your IPL/SPL numbers are in the form X.xx (i.e 2.26, 1.08, etc.) you have a G3
If your IPL/SPL numbers are in the form X.xx.xxx1 (i.e. 2.26.0001), you have a G4
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and also below:
Download the appropriate IPL/SPL based on your device and carrier.
T-Mobile MDA G4 IPL&SPL.zip
AT&T 8125 G4 IPL&SPL.zip
Vodafone Qtek 9100 G4 IPl&SPL.zip
Orange SPV M3000 G4 IPL&SPL.zip
O2 XDA Mini S G4 IPL&SPL.zip
Depending on your device and Carrier, download the appropriate Rom for your device:
T-Mobile MDA Official WM5 Rom
AT&T 8125 Official WM5 Rom
Vodafone Qtek 9100 Official WM5 Rom
Orange SPV M3000 Official WM5 Rom
O2 XDA Mini S Official WM5 Rom
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Again, I only need to have voip/sip working so I can call my family in the PHilippines and Canada for free. But I think the ways to have it are so far from now so I would appreciate a lot of help you can give me.
By the way, I am a contract worker and dont have much money so I need to make this thing work and can't afford to pay for somebody who could do this for me.
Thank you so much.
ok,
IPL 2.25
SPL 2.25
"If your IPL/SPL numbers are in the form X.xx (i.e 2.26, 1.08, etc.) you have a G3",as your's is 2.25 it means X.xx,its a G3 device,so don't bother to read or be concerned about G4 devices,only read and follow the threads and procedures concerning G3 devices,it'll lessen the burden on your mind and make things more clear.
T-Mobile MDA G4 IPL&SPL.zip
AT&T 8125 G4 IPL&SPL.zip
Vodafone Qtek 9100 G4 IPl&SPL.zip
Orange SPV M3000 G4 IPL&SPL.zip
O2 XDA Mini S G4 IPL&SPL.zip
These are IPL/SPL (Bootloaders) for G4 phones,none of your concern.
Depending on your device and Carrier, download the appropriate Rom for your device:
T-Mobile MDA Official WM5 Rom
AT&T 8125 Official WM5 Rom
Vodafone Qtek 9100 Official WM5 Rom
Orange SPV M3000 Official WM5 Rom
O2 XDA Mini S Official WM5 Rom
All these are Official stock carrier Roms of different networks,they are all good for both G3 And G4 phones.they include IPL/SPL for both the devices.when flashed, will only flash those IPL/SPL (Bootloaders) concerning the specific device.These roms can safely be flashed equally both to G3 & G4 devices.
Ok,for setting up 'VOIP/SIP' check out this link below for instructions and appropriate setting :-
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=299950
Cheers!
Thanks for your reply zabardast_1.
Noted and I will follow you in concentrating only G3 threads and procedures.
For now, my follow up question would be:
T-Mobile MDA Official WM5 Rom
AT&T 8125 Official WM5 Rom
Vodafone Qtek 9100 Official WM5 Rom
Orange SPV M3000 Official WM5 Rom
O2 XDA Mini S Official WM5 Rom
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- if these are the official Roms, and I am using my 8125 thru a local carrier here (which is not included in the above list, although the phone is Cingular branded but unlocked), then which one should I use? The AT&T?
and....
what are the chances that my phone will be bricked if I wont be successful on doing this myself?
Karen29 said:
Thanks for your reply zabardast_1.
Noted and I will follow you in concentrating only G3 threads and procedures.
For now, my follow up question would be:
- if these are the official Roms, and I am using my 8125 thru a local carrier here (which is not included in the above list, although the phone is Cingular branded but unlocked), then which one should I use? The AT&T?
and....
what are the chances that my phone will be bricked if I wont be successful on doing this myself?
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G3's are not that easy to get 'Bricked',its only if you flash G4 ipl/spl to a G3 phone,then there are bright chances of getting it bricked.
Secondly,all wizard phones are build by HTC with same hareware and features,regardless of vendors and cellular networks,it maybe cingular 8125,T-mobile MDA,Qtek 9100 or O2 Mini S,they all are of same build,hardware and features manufactured by HTC.You can flash any of the Roms mentioned but I wud prefer the AT&T 8125 Official WM5 Rom.The rom is the OS of the phone,it doesn't matter which local carrier you are using,its the sim of the carrier which is in use.You can easily flash a T-mobile rom on a At&TT phone or vice versa.Only the GPRS and other network settings differ from carrier to carrier.
Cheers!
I have a few more questions pls see ****
Wizard Windows Mobile 6 for newbies (I've found this here at http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Wizard Windows Mobile 6 for newbies)
Intro
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Audience
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Requirements
Computer with Windows XP ***Im running in Windows Vista so I will take a look at the other post. But Iknow that basically this procedure is almost the same, right?
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Definitions
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Procedure
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However, before you start flashing, consider the following:
1. Is your device a G3 or G4 Wizard? If it's G4, Follow the G4 portion of the tutorial. If you follow the G3 tutorial you will effectively BRICK your phone. I'll tell you how to tell the difference between G3 and G4 below. ****my phone is G3 (as per your previous message)
2. Did you get your phone through a carrier (or is it carrier branded)? i.e. does your phone say T-Mobile or Cingular, or O2, or anything that identifies it as having come from a cell phone company? If yes, it's probably locked. As you now know, a SIM lock is different from a CID lock. We'll need to CID unlock your phone in order to flash WM6. ***** i bought it from ebay and right now, I am using SIM from a local network here so I guess it is SIM unlocked. So that means I only need to CID unlock?
3. Get the right IPL/SPL version. Most ROMs require BOTH IPL and SPL to be 2.xx. If you're at 1.xx, you need to take an additional step of flashing an official ROM. v(G3 Only step) ****my IPL/SPL is 2.25 and I need to use AT&T G3...zip, right?
4. Pick a ROM and flash it! **** AT&T or is this the WM6?
5. Enjoy your new functionality! **** I hope so.
6. Do additional stuff (install applications, change splash screens, and anything else you ask me to write about) *** I need the SIP/VOIP so my VOipcheap would work
1. Phone version (aka "Which guide do I follow if I don't want to have a brick?").....
If your IPL/SPL numbers are in the form X.xx (i.e 2.26, 1.08, etc.) you have a G3
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2. Unlocking (CID and SIM) G3 and G4 Tutorials.
G3 ONLY!
(Credit to Dr. Puttingham for the walkthough which I used as a basis for this portion of the tutorial.)
..... Also, make sure that your phone is nearly fully charged(at least 75%), otherwise things may go loopy.***I will.
1. Download the Button ROM to your computer **** ok
2. Attach your Wizard to your computer using the USB cable. For the love of G-d, do NOT do this over bluetooth or IR. It will most likely not work, but if it does, all hell will break loose.
3. If you have ActiveSync, (****I dont. So if I download this ActiceSync, by default, there is no parnertship, right?) make sure there are no active partnerships with your device. With your device NOT plugged in, go into ActiveSync file->delete mobile device. Once you plug the device back in, cancel synchronization. Your wizard should be showing up in ActiveSync as Guest.
4. With your device connected to your computer as Guest, run the file that your downloaded. (****The Button ROM???) It's pretty much self-explanatory. Agree to everything, and let it do it's thing. It is downgrading your IPL to 1.05. You can only unlock your phone if the IPL is 1.xx, you can't do it if your IPL is 2.xx. (<- ****what do you mean by this? coz i have 2.25) Always have lots of patience. The 10 minutes to complete statement is a guide, if your computer is running at a 90% CPU load with 99% of your RAM full (which it shouldn't), expect this to take a lot longer. If it so happens that you get an error at 99%, try The Xda_MiniS_LaunchROM_v154102.exe.
5. Once the flash is done and your Wizard is rebooted, it will display an IPL of 1.xx and an SPL of 2.xx.
6. Download Lokiwiz 0.2b.
7. Use Winzip or Winrar to extract the files to any folder on your computer(it is recommended you create a folder specifically for lokiwiz), DO NOT JUST COPY THEM! There is a directory structure inside the zip file, and this will not work if that directory structure is not maintained. This had driven me nuts the first time I did it, it was giving me all kinds of "file not found" errors. ***ok?
8. Copy enablerapi.cab from your PC to anywhere on your Wizard using ActiveSync. Remember not to create a partnership (make sure you're still connected as a Guest).
9. Go to your Wizard (***while it is connected to my computer???) and use the File Explorer to find the file you just copied. Click on it and install it to the main memory ("Device", not extended memory).
10. Back on your PC, open the folder you just created when you extracted Lokiwiz and click lokiwiz.bat. Another option if you feel comfortable is to extract lokiwiz 0.2b to your C Drive and then open up command prompt type in "cd C:" without the quotes. This should take you to your C:\ drive. Type lokiwiz.bat.
11. You will see the following:
U. Unlock
L. Lock
C. CID Unlock (SuperCID)
Q. Quit
Unlock refers to SIM Unlock and CID unlock refers to...well. If you still don't know the difference, go back and read from the beginning.
1. Press U on your computer keyboard. lokiwiz will SIM unlock your phone and REBOOT. If it doesn't reboot, you did something wrong. Try again. The procedure may take a few minutes to complete, so if your Wizard doesn't reboot right away, don't freak out. ***do i have to do this?
2. Rerun the lokiwiz.bat file, this time pressing C. Wait for the Wizard to reboot.
3. While rebooting, keep an eye on the IPL/SPL numbers. If the IPL is 1.05, good. If they are both still 2.xx, rerun the button ROM (or the other ROM that worked for you). You won't need to re-unlock the device.It is recommended that you make sure you sucessfully flashed the button rom(or whatever rom worked for you) and your IPL is 1.05 before you SIM and CID unlock your device.
4. You have 2 options now. Once you have successfully CID unlocked your phone, you can either re-flash the Button ROM or whichever ROM you used to obtain matching 1.05 IPL/SPL(NOT REQUIRED) or continue to the next step which is to continue with the upgrade and upgrade back to IPL/SPL version 2.xx (yes, you need to downgrade then upgrade back...it's just what you have to do however time-wasteful it may seem). Everyone seems to like the T-mobile Official WM5 ROM (****I need to use the AT&T Official, right?) , so what the heck, I think you'll like it too. Flash it the same way you flashed the Button ROM (double click and go through the installation). Remember to have patience! Also, You should save the T-Mobile .exe file since you will need to flash back to that first every time you want to switch ROMs (again, no matter how time wasteful it seems, trust me, do it).
5. OPTIONAL STEP:: Once you have successfully CID unlocked your G3 device and have the T-Mobile Official WM5 ROM back on your device, you now have the option to upgrade to IPL/SPL 3.08. Upgrading to IPL/SPL 3.08 is just like flashing a tiny little ROM It will not change the functionality of the device whatsoever but will speed up the boot sequence a little. Any little bit helps right? You can Find the download link for IPL/SPL 3.08 HERE Just download the .rar file EXTRACT it to its own folder. <!-- DO NOT COPY AND PASTE THESE FILES TO ANOTHER FOLDER. There is a definite file structure that will be ruined if you copy and paste and it will not work. --> Run the Rom Update Utility (****how?) and again, follow the simple self explanatory steps to complete the upgrade and then your device will reboot itself. Keep an eye on the IPL/SPL when the device is rebooting. It should now be 3.08 for both and your device should now boot more quickly.
WM6 ROMs
Pick a WM6 ROM and flash it. Now that you have a good T-Mobile WM5 ROM with IPL/SPL at 2.26 (if one of them is not at 2.26, RE-FLASH IT!) or IPL/SPL 3.08, you're ready to install a WM6 ROM. This is where I have to step back. Due to forum politics, I cannot go ahead and suggest a ROM (neither can anyone else, and if you ask this on the forums, you will get flamed and your topic will be locked). Besides, the minute I suggest a ROM on this page, a better one will come out. All I can tell you is if you're after all the nice touch stuff (of course you are!), look at the ROMs that boast TouchFlo (TNT and ?BlackDiamond are just two examples). Go to the forum, under Wizard Mobile 6 (***I have to make sure that its AT&T, right?) and take your pick. It is like being a little kid in a candy store, the variety is so immense. The only advice I could give you from personal experience, is that ROMs with newer builds(higher build numbers) tend to have more bugs than the older builds(obviously, the builds that have lower numbers) tend to be more stable with less bugs. THIS IS NOT TRUE FOR ALL ROMS!! Some ROMs with newer builds are VERY stable with only minor bugs if any but I am not going to get into that. I would also suggest reading some of the discussion regarding the author's ROM to see what bugs there are (hint: all ROMs have bugs, the question is how many and what can you live with. A relatively minor bug for me may be a show-stopper for you). You flash this ROM the exact same way you flashed the button ROM and the T-Mobile ROM. Configure it to your liking and enjoy!
**** If this is successful, then I would go on and install voip/sip, right?
HOWA !!!
Long questionair,
Anyway ! just to a cut short,
1. WinXP is highly recommended for flashing and upgrading,with winvista,there are many problems.so I advise you to consider winXP.
2. ActiveSync 4.5 will not work on winVista,it only works on winXP,for Vista you'll have to download Windows Mobile Device (WMD).
3. YES ! its a G3 device(IPL/SPL 2.25),If its SIM unlocked,it might be CID unlocked too,its not essential,but maybe,as you bought a used phone from ebay.To verify if its CID unlocked,download the WST tool and run the "CID Action' button,it'll verify the CID locked/unlocked status of the phone.
4.If its CID unlocked,there's no need to downgrade by flashing 'Button's Rom 1.05 to 1.xx to unlock with lokiwiz02b,but if isn't cid unlocked,you'll have to downgrade it to ipl/spl 1.xx.
5. YES ! if its cid unlocked,you need ipl/spl 2.xx to upgrade to any wm6 rom,yes,you can use the official stock rom of at&tt,but T-mobile 2.26 has proved to be the most stable 2.xx rom and is highly recommended to upgrade to 2.xx for upgrade to wm6 as a good base.
6. NO ! there's no wm6 upgrade available for official stock AT&TT,you'll have to depend on latest custom build wm6 roms,which are avaiable in this forum.
Well,if you have to downgrade and CID unlock through lokiwiz02b,read and follow the guide by Dr.Putts.
Cheers!
follow-up questions ****
1. i will look for winxp
2. if i didnt find winxp pc here, i would have to do it thru vista
3. WST Tool? download it to my PC (with winxp) and connect my wizard?
4. ok. then i will follow the steps.
5. YES ! if its cid unlocked,you need ipl/spl 2.xx to upgrade to any wm6 rom,yes,you can use the official stock rom of at&tt,but T-mobile 2.26 has proved to be the most stable 2.xx rom and is highly recommended to upgrade to 2.xx for upgrade to wm6 as a good base.
(****so i dont need to upgrade coz i have 2.25??? or i still need a new official ROM like T-mobilie 2.26 so I can upgrade to wm6???)
6. NO ! there's no wm6 upgrade available for official stock AT&TT,you'll have to depend on latest custom build wm6 roms,which are avaiable in this forum.
***any wm6 will do, right?
thanks so much.
Hi there!
Im lost! I cant find a PC with WinXP that I can use
I think I will have to do it with Vista. And of course, I need to start all over again from the start on reading and learning.
Is this the right post for me? including the links to the stuffs I need to download? (coz I notice there's not much to download and not much stuffs like the button rom and the At&T rom and others).
I mean, considering that I have a G4 with IPL/SPL 2.25.
Please help.
Karen29 said:
Hi there!
Im lost! I cant find a PC with WinXP that I can use
I think I will have to do it with Vista. And of course, I need to start all over again from the start on reading and learning.
Is this the right post for me? including the links to the stuffs I need to download? (coz I notice there's not much to download and not much stuffs like the button rom and the At&T rom and others).
I mean, considering that I have a G4 with IPL/SPL 2.25.
Please help.
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YUP ! follow the above thread and download the drivers for winvista or you can check out this below link also :-
http://www.anichillus.net/index.php?topic=21.0
well,as you say it has 2.25 then its a G3,but if its got ipl/spl 2.25.0001 thenits a G4,why don't you download and WST tool and get the device info,it'll certify which is your phone a G3 or G4,ok
Cheers!
After I go through the ROM update
The ROM update seems to work fine installs 100% the 8125 then reboots the Splash screen comes up with the beer bottle, but it HANGS on this Screen and Does not do anything should i leave it longer.
ive been working with other ROMS and now this one for the last week, and It seems like its just hanging at this Screen.
also my active sync isnt really regonizing the 8125, under explorer it shows mobile device, and the computer beeps when i plug it in but sync doesnt seem to regonize it...
it has in the past but not while loading this button rom coul that have somethign to do with it?
natdizzle said:
The ROM update seems to work fine installs 100% the 8125 then reboots the Splash screen comes up with the beer bottle, but it HANGS on this Screen and Does not do anything should i leave it longer.
ive been working with other ROMS and now this one for the last week, and It seems like its just hanging at this Screen.
also my active sync isnt really regonizing the 8125, under explorer it shows mobile device, and the computer beeps when i plug it in but sync doesnt seem to regonize it...
it has in the past but not while loading this button rom coul that have somethign to do with it?
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Do a Soft Reset or Hard reset,it'll load up fine,if not,then reflash the button's Rom again.
Cheers!
OKay
Soft you mean the litte reset button hard you mean battery ive tried all of that...
I guess ill keep trying to reload thebutton rom you seem confident itll be lright
I HOPE I MISS MY PHONE!!
zabardast_1 said:
YUP ! follow the above thread and download the drivers for winvista or you can check out this below link also :-
http://www.anichillus.net/index.php?topic=21.0
well,as you say it has 2.25 then its a G3,but if its got ipl/spl 2.25.0001 thenits a G4,why don't you download and WST tool and get the device info,it'll certify which is your phone a G3 or G4,ok
Cheers!
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hi there! I am trying to follow the steps (vista) but cant get to bootloader mode.
which is the side ok button? and which hole should i put my stylus (coz the holes at the bottom are only the earphone, usb and the one that you can put dangle or something)?
also, what does it really look like when its in the bootloader mode?
thanks.
pls note that there is a hole on the right side that when i press it with stylus...the device will reset.
Hi there!
Got the bootloader! I pressed the hole on the right side with the stylus and when the screen is blank, I pressed and hold camera button and there you go....the bootloader with that colorful screen.
I followed the steps and now the WMDC can see my phone.
Now what?
- need to upgrade to wm6, right? (although, i thought that the steps i followed would make my phone wm6 already)
- then, need to get the voip/sip
Now i need to know how. LOL!
Pls tell me something more about this....thanks
it works YUPEEEEEEEEE
u are not going to belive but my phone is working now........... i fix the from cingular to tmobile in the minute............ IT WORKSSSSSSSSSSSS i started with the beer bottle. then i press soft reset button on the boot screen i press camera button and then i got three color screen .after that i plug my USB cord and computer did a beep so my usb was conected..
i went and download the tmobile flash and then unziped on my desktop in the new folder.
did restart on my computer and then run the lockwiz ....... i did update my sistem.. when is booting it say cingular but im using my tmobile sim card..........
HTC 8125
OMAP850
195 mhz
ram sz 64 mb
flash size 128
flashchip m-SYSTEMS
i got version
2.25.11.1wwe
rom date 5/11/06/
something must me wrong with mine..im doing everything have the beer loading screen IPL 1.05 SPL 2.25 Nothing...freezes on splash....
trying the unlocking tools, but i cant get past splash, or RGB screen soo i dont know if it will work from there...
natdizzle said:
something must me wrong with mine..im doing everything have the beer loading screen IPL 1.05 SPL 2.25 Nothing...freezes on splash....
trying the unlocking tools, but i cant get past splash, or RGB screen soo i dont know if it will work from there...
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Relax,try a Soft Reset or Hard reset,if it works,fine,if not get into bootloaders and flash the Button's Rom again.
Cheers!
me, i dont really know what to do next.
Zabardast, pls guide me. After wat i did above, what will i do now?
Thanks.
zabardast_1 said:
YUP ! follow the above thread and download the drivers for winvista or you can check out this below link also :-
http://www.anichillus.net/index.php?topic=21.0
well,as you say it has 2.25 then its a G3,but if its got ipl/spl 2.25.0001 thenits a G4,why don't you download and WST tool and get the device info,it'll certify which is your phone a G3 or G4,ok
Cheers!
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I followed that but I get lost. I thought everythng would be ok. but my phone is still wm5.
pls help. thanks.
by the way, what is that latest RUU.zip?

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