I have currently the following:
IPL 2.25
SPL 2.25
GSM 2.25.11
OS 2.25.11.1
I am a self proclaimed newb when it comes to cell phone mods, however i've started to research on this site and read a few of faria's and other people threads. I have come to the conclusion i'd like to test out summiters AKUv2.3 ROM, however from what im reading it seems since my phone is NOT CID locked i can not first downgrade to unlock the CID (needing what i believe is an <v2.21) to then flash the rom to his custome rom. although i also saw where someone said they used a cingular shipped rom to downgrade their phone, i believe my phone originally came with v1.18. my other option is to return this phone to the carrier and get another phone which would ship with the v.1.18 or whatever it was and then i can follow faria's thread..
am i correct? or is there the ability to downgrade with my current setup
Thank you, great site, loads of info
If your phone is CID locked (and it is CID locked by default unless you have unlocked it) upgrading to the 2.25 ROM has prevented you from using the free tools on this site to do the unlock.
If you want to CID unlock you will have to pay for the http://imei-check.co.uk service. It claims to do both a SIM and CID unlock and is currently the only known way to CID unlock ROMs that are version 2.21 and higher. If you wait, a free solution will no doubt come out but if you want it now, it's going to cost you £20/$40.
Once the Wizard is CID unlocked you can flash any Wizard ROM you choose to it.
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aixenv said:
I have currently the following:
IPL 2.25
SPL 2.25
GSM 2.25.11
OS 2.25.11.1
I am a self proclaimed newb when it comes to cell phone mods, however i've started to research on this site and read a few of faria's and other people threads. I have come to the conclusion i'd like to test out summiters AKUv2.3 ROM, however from what im reading it seems since my phone is NOT CID locked i can not first downgrade to unlock the CID (needing what i believe is an <v2.21) to then flash the rom to his custome rom. although i also saw where someone said they used a cingular shipped rom to downgrade their phone, i believe my phone originally came with v1.18. my other option is to return this phone to the carrier and get another phone which would ship with the v.1.18 or whatever it was and then i can follow faria's thread..
am i correct? or is there the ability to downgrade with my current setup
Thank you, great site, loads of info
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You'll want to flash to the original shipping rom which is on the xda-dev ftp at:
ftp://xda:[email protected]/Wizard/Roms/Cingular/Cingular_RUU_1.8.11.1.WWE.ship.exe
Once that's installed, use awizard or lokiwiz to CID unlock. And once that's done, flash to whichever ROM floats your boat.
Post back here if you run into any snags and can't resolve it reading through the existing messages.
Are you an AIX admin?
ahh yes im now finding on the ftp server
Cingular_RUU_1.8.11.1.WWE.ship.exe
yes linux/UNIX guru (AIX, FreeBSD, SUSE, etc) & phone noob, go figure..
im seeing conflicting statements here, 1 saying i can just downgrade to my shipped rom, the other saying i cant.
i received the phone yesterday, read up on some of the apps to try out, saw the new rom out, decided to try that out, did a soft reset on cingular extrom and then well have what i have, now i wanted to play a little more and test other peoples roms out and yet with no CID lock which would be the default i was under the impression i was SoL.. is that not correct? JUST to reverify with conflicting reports
after doing some more research i'm not sure which way is the accurate position, i read on one forum that there is a locking done once you go past the v2.21 rom so you cant downgrade to then Cid unlock, but then i've read other places you can, im downloading the v1.8.11.1 file and i guess ill find out soon enough
aixenv said:
after doing some more research i'm not sure which way is the accurate position, i read on one forum that there is a locking done once you go past the v2.21 rom so you cant downgrade to then Cid unlock, but then i've read other places you can, im downloading the v1.8.11.1 file and i guess ill find out soon enough
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Try it, the worst that will happen is that you get an error saying that you can't flash an older Rom (than what is already installed).
well the update (downgrade to v1.8 shipped rom from 2.25) util is at 75% atm, .. will update accordingly....
ok well it ran the "downgrade" with no problems, i soft reset on the cingular apps, and when the system boots back up i get the following:
IPL = 1.08
SPL = 2.25
GSM = 1.09.11
OS = 1.8.11.1
so from what ive read on the forums i think it's a good thing i asked them to overnight me a new phone due to faulty reception (which is true it doesn't get the reception a buddies gets)..because i would assume with the SPL at > 2.25 i wouldnt be able to unlock the CID, correct?
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Just after I got my 8125 I upgraded the ROM to 2.25. I didn't unlock anything. Its running fine. Now I'm interested to try a different ROM. I understand I will need to CID unlock my device. Here is where I'm confused, if it is possible or not after upgrading to 2.25? Can I follow the steps to downgrade my ROM and unlock the CID?
I have searched and been reading alot but I'm still a bit confused, so please be gentle as I ask for some guidance. I have experience modifying Motorola phones, but am new to PocketPC. Any help is appreciated.
Good if you can provide info on how you upgraded your unit (e.g. with the providers official ROM or with the software and ROMS in this forum, etc)
And how you intended to down grade your ROM? You also mentioned the 'steps' to follow, of which steps are you refering to?
And, why do you want to have your phone CID unlocked? CID lock will not bug most people unless they are going for a ROM flashing. CID lock is different from `phone lock` or `SIM lock`.
Just incase you are wonder, what is CID, ... don't ask me. I have no idea at all Seriously.
I upgraded a stock 8125 (G3) to the Cingular 2.25 official ROM. I would like to install a summiter or mr. clean custom ROM. Searching through the messages here I'm unable to determine for certain if I'm able to CID unlock from 2.25 on my own (for free), but I get the impression I cannot. I just want to know for sure before attempting anything further.
I won't need step-by-step instruction...just need to know what my options are at this point.
Last nite I tried to install the summiter ROM without the bootloader. And the install went fine and completed 100% without error. But after the reboot I found the flash didn't hold, it was basically like a hard reset.
First download and install the Cingular 1.8 Rom
If that works fine then you should be able to CID unlock.
If not then try downloading and installing the "Button 1.05" Rom.
If either of these dowgrades worked for you, searck for LokiWiz (use ver 0.2 for CID unlock) and follwo the instructions.
Next if you want to SIM Unlock find LokWiz MSL 0.3 as it does a better SIM unlock than the older LokiWiz. Again follow the instructions.
Now you should be good..
Sorry if I wasn't clear, but its the downgrading I am concerned about. I'm not certain if it is possible to downgrade (including bootloader) from 2.25 without the device being CID unlocked..?
Stinkfist said:
Sorry if I wasn't clear, but its the downgrading I am concerned about. I'm not certain if it is possible to downgrade (including bootloader) from 2.25 without the device being CID unlocked..?
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Having a G3 device you can downgrade.
You must downgrade to CID unlock unless you want to pay imei-check $40.00
kyphur said:
Having a G3 device you can downgrade.
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Perfect...I will try it.
You must downgrade to CID unlock unless you want to pay imei-check $40.00
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Yeah, that much I do understand. I definately want to avoid paying to unlock.
Thanks for your help! I'll let you know how it goes.
Success! SIM/CID unlocked.
IPL 2.24
SPL 2.24
GSM 02.25.11
OS 2.24.10.1
Thanks kyphur, for taking a moment to point a noob down the right path.
well long story short I used to have a wizard g3 and in a drunken rage I (with the phone) ended up in a lake. I had that phone fully cid unlocked and my ipl/spl was in the 2.xx range and I had an updated rom and what not. anyways I got the wizard replaced with my insurance thank god and i just got the new one today. now I'm going through updating my rom and such. anyways, I ran the lokwiz tool and sim unlocked and superCID unlocked my phone and I was going to go try some new roms, btw this replacement phone is also a G3 version. and so I came across http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=61997 NEW Custom 2.26 ROM with CF2-SP1 Flash7 Java Rings Themes...
but I was reading on there and it said that my IPL/SPL have to be version 2.xx or higher, now on my old phone it was that way, but on this one its like 1.08 and I dunno how I upgraded them before cause I can't remember. anyways, I've been searching on the forums for a few hours... I'll keep looking, I hate posting for help with out doing some thorough research. thanks for your help in advance.
I did some more reading and I guess the ipl/spl are usually included in new roms and it's just not included on this rom. is there any way to just update your ipl/spl, that would be your bootloader version, right?
screw it I cant just find a bootloader upgrade, doing a full rom upgrade just to get the new bootloader... kinda sucks but ohh well.
thats what I had to do I used the official tmob 2.26 rom which did my ipl/spl - bootloader, then I flashed xelencins 2.26 rom which is like a "tmobile light" cooked rom which I'd reccomend for any tmob usa users.
then I did the radio only to get cingulars radio rom
it worked out fine, the less you flash your bootloader the better, if you f-up a bootloader flash your phone is a brick, your bootloader is the failsafe if a rom update goes bad...
bhang
Even though my 8125 was running just fine on a Molski ROM I got months ago, I had to go fiddle with it and see what kind of damage I could do. Now, I have myself stuck at IPL 1.01, SPL 2.26, GSM 01.12.10 and can't seem to find a way to get my IPL back to the 2.xx range. Since there are no longer any ROMs posted here, I am afraid to try some of the ones I am finding elsewhere since I don't know if I will turn my Wizard into a paper weight.
Does anyone know what ROM would be the best to use to give me a newer NBF so I can just put the current factory ROM on? I had read that the MrClean_RUU_WIZARD_224a_AKU23_WWE would be the right one, but I can't find it anywhere now.
Beeker said:
Even though my 8125 was running just fine on a Molski ROM I got months ago, I had to go fiddle with it and see what kind of damage I could do. Now, I have myself stuck at IPL 1.01, SPL 2.26, GSM 01.12.10 and can't seem to find a way to get my IPL back to the 2.xx range. Since there are no longer any ROMs posted here, I am afraid to try some of the ones I am finding elsewhere since I don't know if I will turn my Wizard into a paper weight.
Does anyone know what ROM would be the best to use to give me a newer NBF so I can just put the current factory ROM on?
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Run the T-mobile 2.26 rom which you should be able to get from tmobiles site. that will get you to ipl and spl 2.26
nottoosmart said:
Run the T-mobile 2.26 rom which you should be able to get from tmobiles site. that will get you to ipl and spl 2.26
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Appreciate the thought, but the T-Mobile site requests that I enter my phone number, which is not a T-mobile number, but a Cingular number.
Beeker said:
Appreciate the thought, but the T-Mobile site requests that I enter my phone number, which is not a T-mobile number, but a Cingular number.
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Then grab the rom from Cingular's site. I believe it will get you to IPL/SPL 2.25.
Any AKU2 carrier rom will help you (assuming you are CID unlocked since you previously had Molski's rom installed) In any case if you are a cingular customer and got your phone through them normally even if it is CID locked it is locked to Cingular and you can flash their rom.
That's the whole base of the problem here, as I said in the first post my IPL is only 1.01, so trying to install the Cingular ROM gives me the infamous "Please get a newer NBF file" error. I've tried everything I can to take care of the problem, but the needed ROMs to work back up to where I need to be are all gone.
Wizard Love and the Button ROMs are both available on PirateBay. Use the Button to do a CID Unlock again, or use Wizard Love to try to just recover.
As for the T-Mobile site, if you use the link in the sticky for how to CID Unlock by Dr. P, that one does not ask for a phone number. Takes you directly to the place where you do the download (I just downloaded it again yesterday and can email it to you if you need it (PM me with your email)).
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That's the whole base of the problem here, as I said in the first post my IPL is only 1.01, so trying to install the Cingular ROM gives me the infamous "Please get a newer NBF file" error. I've tried everything I can to take care of the problem, but the needed ROMs to work back up to where I need to be are all gone.
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Sorry, I didn't get out of your first post that you had tried the offical Cingular ROM just that you wanted to end up on it. Read through the G3 unlocking sticky. The button 1.05 rom should do the trick. I think the link in there is working though it may be a slow download. I no longer have any wizard roms on my system or I would host it so you could grab it real quick.
I haven't done this before (so take it for what its worth) but you could pull the Cingular RUU file apart with WinRAR, and get the nk.nbf file out of it and run that with a Rom Update Utility NOID (that comes with most of the custom ROMs) and that should allow you to flash it no matter what the IPL/SPL are at as I understand it. (so you shouldn't get the need newer message).
Okay, download the button ROM and the T-Mobile ROM now as well as printing out the unlocking guide. I know I've done this before, but it was a long time ago.
Thanks for the help guys!!!
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You know what, just reading the ENTIRE FRIGGEN INSTRUCTIONS solved the problem. One little line towards the end of Doc's instructions ... "A last note. If you DO ever go back to the 1.05 ROM for any reason you need to repeat the lokiwiz steps as you won't be able to install a 2.x IPL/SPL bootloader."
That's it, one little line on the last page that I just skimmed over and that's all it was in the end.
Hows it going guys this is my first post....ive had so many problems since switching to cingular with my tmobile MDA its hillarious!...i unlocked the MDA...got it too work with Cingular! I thought everything was perfect untill i realized i couldnt receive any text messages from any other carriers. Meaning if i used my cousins cingular phone to text my phone it would work....if i used my sprint phone...nothing would reach my phone...so i serched n applied all kind of cingular MMS GPRS settings .CAB files still nothing. If i put my SIM into an offical cingular phone the same thing happens...so now im hoping if i put the cingular rom on my phone it will make things better.. I need to downgrade first because every CID tool i use wont work but i found out its because i have 2.25 so basically does anyone have an old 1.XX offical T-Mobile ROM backed up anywhere or know how i can receive all text messages from all carriers?? Thanks
welcome...and in the future if you take a few minutes to read the stickies and wiki, you may very well get your answer.
the following link is to a sticky which links to button's 1.05 rom.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=285435
well thanks for the help but when i try installing that rom it locks up at 98% everytime and gives me an error....is this becaise of that CID thing is still locked????
Did you follow that tutorial step by step??? I had no problems with the button rom so I am not sure. I myself followed that tutorial when I recently unlocked my MDA and it went without a hitch...make sure you run lokiwiz twice and button twice. Not sure what else to tell you...sorry.
MCarter418 said:
well thanks for the help but when i try installing that rom it locks up at 98% everytime and gives me an error....is this becaise of that CID thing is still locked????
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No, the Button rom is for the purpose of unlocking and is a really low IPL/SPL which was before the CID locking stuff was around.
I've read on another post that someone was having problems flashing the button rom like you are, and they were finally able to flash it by changing their radio rom first (I don't know if they had one of the newer radio's or what). Doesn't make sense to me as I've never seen that before, but what they heck, you could try downgrading to like the 2.19 T-Mo UK radio to see if that helps.
Also, have you tried flashing the T-Mobile 2.26 rom to your phone? Since this is an MDA and you are running Cingular 2.25 it sounds to me like you were already CID Unlocked (and you don't have to downgrade again to switch carrier roms, just switch).
It also is best to remove your sd card when doing the downgrading procedure.
Hello all,
I recently inherited an HTC Wizard (Cingular 8125), IPL/SPL 2.25 (So its a G3 right?) running WM5. Ive been doing a lot of reading over the last week or so and have decided that this phone is just too boring as is.
Ive been looking over all of the roms/themes that I can find to spice it up and have narrowed it down to a few. But before I start messing with it, I have decided to run it by all of you and get your opininons.
From what I understand, before I can load any roms, I need to CID unkock the phone, which will require me to first load the Button 1.05 Rom (can I load the Button Rom with the phone locked?). Then I will run Lokiwiz02b to unlock it. Reload Button 1.05 if IPL/SPL are not both 1.05. Then load the T-Mobile 2.26 for a solid foundation. (I will be working step by step off Dr. Puttingham's Definitive Guide to Unlocking and Rom Upgrading G3 Wizards.)
If my process above is incorrect, please let me know. I will hate to brick a phone I just got.
Next I am considering which rom to install. I really like TouchFlo and am strongly considering TNT Pro, SNN Diamond and Black Diamond 3.1. I want this phone to have a sleek interface and lots of functionality (extras) and it needs to be quite bug free; if it crashes everytime I try some routine task it will not be worth doing.
Here are the files that I have and how I will use them.
Wizard_Button_Rom.exe
-I will run this first to downgrade my current rom to 1.05.
-I will likely run it again after the CID unlocking to match IPL/SPL @ 1.05.
lokiwiz02b.zip
-This is run after the Button Rom as per instructions from Dr. Puttingham to CID Unlock the phone.
ruu_prodigy_226102_22610105_022511_tmous_wwe_ship. exe
-This is the T-mobile 2.26 rom which will be installed after the phone is @ IPL/SPL 1.05 and CID Unlocked.
Question: Will this rom install a bunch of T Mobile Crap? I know the Cingular/Att Roms always have a bunch of stuff to get you to sign up for and spend your money on things you dont want. Making your home screen ugly.
IPL_SPL_3.08.rar
-I do have this file, but don't plan on using it. Is there any reason why I should? It was mentioned in Dr. Puttinghams guide as an alternate option to the T-Mobile Rom but the file size is 1:100th the size so I dont understand how it could replace it.
Next is the final Rom.
I have 3 versions of TNT:
TNT.19199_Professional_Wizard.rar
TNT.19209_Professional_Wizard_TouchFlo_FREE[www.ppcplanet.net].rar
TNT.20273_Professional_Wizard_HTC_Home_FREE.rar
Black Diamond:
BlackDiamond_3.1_Touch.rar
SNN Diamond:
SNN_Diamond.rar
Does anyone have any suggestions on which rom to choose? They all seem good to me.
Can anyone verify my steps above? Have I omitted anything or are there any steps that I can omit? (Like the T-Mobile 2.26 Rom.)
I plan on using this phone in the US through ATT. Will there be any conflicts with these roms?
Thank you guys so much. Especially you chefs!
-Steve
Unlock Necessary?
Is it even necessary to unlock the phone? I plan on using it on the same network it was designed for and I believe that these roms do not effect the the IPL/SPL.
There is just so much information and so many possibilities that I am having a hard time figuring out what info is for me and what is not.
Of course I would like to move away from WM5 and on to WM6.1.
Search for the Wizard Service Tool, it will CID unlock your phone, I did mine.
I downloaded the file WST_v4.2.2.zip. I am waiting on the Data Cable so I will be unlocking in a day or so. After unlocking with this program, my phone will be exactly as is, but unlocked correct? There will be no need to go through the downgrade then upgrade steps?
Since you have a G3, you must do the following:
Actual Status: IPL/SPL 2.xx
Download and flash Button 1.05 - to downgrade
IPL/SPL 1.05 will be your status after that
Download to your PC WST -Wizard Service Tool (can be used only with IPL/SPL 1.xx)
Follow the instructions
Unlock CID - you must be Supercid after that
Unlock SIM - If you want
Download and flash carrier rom you must be 2.xx after that
and then, you are able to flash any cooked rom you want
Do the steps...
Yes your steps are great understanded so do it!!!!
Answers to your questions....
1.- YES YOU HAVE A G3
2.- YES YOU CAN LOAD BUTTON ROM WITH A LOCKED CID/SIM
3.- ALL ORIGINAL ROMS HAVE THIS KIND OF STUFF 2.26 LESS THAN 3.08
4.- NO A STRONG REASON TO FLASH WITH 3.08 OR 2.26 IS THE SAME (...Well not the same the 3.08 WM5 original rom has push email and 2.26 dont has it, the diference betwen this is not important to flash a WM6 or 6.1)
5.- TNTs rom... try the TNT .20273 but beta 3 is better just click on the Mr TNT's picture and search it. About all roms the one that has less issues is this WM6.1 new icons and diamond style!!!! personaly I dislike the other but I can tell you and its for sure!!!!! you will reflash your phone to much times searching for the one that match to your convenience... all of we do it so... your PDA will crash so much times untill you get the one that matches to you... Like GIRLS MEN!!!!!!!!
You are ready to reflash your PDA...
I extremely recomend you to unlock your PDA Totally for all the ROMS. the signal will change is normaly... so remember the Radio Version GSM on ipl and spl Screen at boots, wich one you have now, and try search it... or get other that works ... of course if you have troubles.
Please edit your profile to see more info about your device and can help you eficiently.