Suggestions Please - 8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading

Hello all,
I recently inherited an HTC Wizard (Cingular 8125), IPL/SPL 2.25 (So its a G3 right?) running WM5. Ive been doing a lot of reading over the last week or so and have decided that this phone is just too boring as is.
Ive been looking over all of the roms/themes that I can find to spice it up and have narrowed it down to a few. But before I start messing with it, I have decided to run it by all of you and get your opininons.
From what I understand, before I can load any roms, I need to CID unkock the phone, which will require me to first load the Button 1.05 Rom (can I load the Button Rom with the phone locked?). Then I will run Lokiwiz02b to unlock it. Reload Button 1.05 if IPL/SPL are not both 1.05. Then load the T-Mobile 2.26 for a solid foundation. (I will be working step by step off Dr. Puttingham's Definitive Guide to Unlocking and Rom Upgrading G3 Wizards.)
If my process above is incorrect, please let me know. I will hate to brick a phone I just got.
Next I am considering which rom to install. I really like TouchFlo and am strongly considering TNT Pro, SNN Diamond and Black Diamond 3.1. I want this phone to have a sleek interface and lots of functionality (extras) and it needs to be quite bug free; if it crashes everytime I try some routine task it will not be worth doing.
Here are the files that I have and how I will use them.
Wizard_Button_Rom.exe
-I will run this first to downgrade my current rom to 1.05.
-I will likely run it again after the CID unlocking to match IPL/SPL @ 1.05.
lokiwiz02b.zip
-This is run after the Button Rom as per instructions from Dr. Puttingham to CID Unlock the phone.
ruu_prodigy_226102_22610105_022511_tmous_wwe_ship. exe
-This is the T-mobile 2.26 rom which will be installed after the phone is @ IPL/SPL 1.05 and CID Unlocked.
Question: Will this rom install a bunch of T Mobile Crap? I know the Cingular/Att Roms always have a bunch of stuff to get you to sign up for and spend your money on things you dont want. Making your home screen ugly.
IPL_SPL_3.08.rar
-I do have this file, but don't plan on using it. Is there any reason why I should? It was mentioned in Dr. Puttinghams guide as an alternate option to the T-Mobile Rom but the file size is 1:100th the size so I dont understand how it could replace it.
Next is the final Rom.
I have 3 versions of TNT:
TNT.19199_Professional_Wizard.rar
TNT.19209_Professional_Wizard_TouchFlo_FREE[www.ppcplanet.net].rar
TNT.20273_Professional_Wizard_HTC_Home_FREE.rar
Black Diamond:
BlackDiamond_3.1_Touch.rar
SNN Diamond:
SNN_Diamond.rar
Does anyone have any suggestions on which rom to choose? They all seem good to me.
Can anyone verify my steps above? Have I omitted anything or are there any steps that I can omit? (Like the T-Mobile 2.26 Rom.)
I plan on using this phone in the US through ATT. Will there be any conflicts with these roms?
Thank you guys so much. Especially you chefs!
-Steve

Unlock Necessary?
Is it even necessary to unlock the phone? I plan on using it on the same network it was designed for and I believe that these roms do not effect the the IPL/SPL.
There is just so much information and so many possibilities that I am having a hard time figuring out what info is for me and what is not.
Of course I would like to move away from WM5 and on to WM6.1.

Search for the Wizard Service Tool, it will CID unlock your phone, I did mine.

I downloaded the file WST_v4.2.2.zip. I am waiting on the Data Cable so I will be unlocking in a day or so. After unlocking with this program, my phone will be exactly as is, but unlocked correct? There will be no need to go through the downgrade then upgrade steps?

Since you have a G3, you must do the following:
Actual Status: IPL/SPL 2.xx
Download and flash Button 1.05 - to downgrade
IPL/SPL 1.05 will be your status after that
Download to your PC WST -Wizard Service Tool (can be used only with IPL/SPL 1.xx)
Follow the instructions
Unlock CID - you must be Supercid after that
Unlock SIM - If you want
Download and flash carrier rom you must be 2.xx after that
and then, you are able to flash any cooked rom you want

Do the steps...
Yes your steps are great understanded so do it!!!!
Answers to your questions....
1.- YES YOU HAVE A G3
2.- YES YOU CAN LOAD BUTTON ROM WITH A LOCKED CID/SIM
3.- ALL ORIGINAL ROMS HAVE THIS KIND OF STUFF 2.26 LESS THAN 3.08
4.- NO A STRONG REASON TO FLASH WITH 3.08 OR 2.26 IS THE SAME (...Well not the same the 3.08 WM5 original rom has push email and 2.26 dont has it, the diference betwen this is not important to flash a WM6 or 6.1)
5.- TNTs rom... try the TNT .20273 but beta 3 is better just click on the Mr TNT's picture and search it. About all roms the one that has less issues is this WM6.1 new icons and diamond style!!!! personaly I dislike the other but I can tell you and its for sure!!!!! you will reflash your phone to much times searching for the one that match to your convenience... all of we do it so... your PDA will crash so much times untill you get the one that matches to you... Like GIRLS MEN!!!!!!!!
You are ready to reflash your PDA...
I extremely recomend you to unlock your PDA Totally for all the ROMS. the signal will change is normaly... so remember the Radio Version GSM on ipl and spl Screen at boots, wich one you have now, and try search it... or get other that works ... of course if you have troubles.
Please edit your profile to see more info about your device and can help you eficiently.

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Please Assist- Cingular 8125 and downgrade options(if any)

I have currently the following:
IPL 2.25
SPL 2.25
GSM 2.25.11
OS 2.25.11.1
I am a self proclaimed newb when it comes to cell phone mods, however i've started to research on this site and read a few of faria's and other people threads. I have come to the conclusion i'd like to test out summiters AKUv2.3 ROM, however from what im reading it seems since my phone is NOT CID locked i can not first downgrade to unlock the CID (needing what i believe is an <v2.21) to then flash the rom to his custome rom. although i also saw where someone said they used a cingular shipped rom to downgrade their phone, i believe my phone originally came with v1.18. my other option is to return this phone to the carrier and get another phone which would ship with the v.1.18 or whatever it was and then i can follow faria's thread..
am i correct? or is there the ability to downgrade with my current setup
Thank you, great site, loads of info
If your phone is CID locked (and it is CID locked by default unless you have unlocked it) upgrading to the 2.25 ROM has prevented you from using the free tools on this site to do the unlock.
If you want to CID unlock you will have to pay for the http://imei-check.co.uk service. It claims to do both a SIM and CID unlock and is currently the only known way to CID unlock ROMs that are version 2.21 and higher. If you wait, a free solution will no doubt come out but if you want it now, it's going to cost you £20/$40.
Once the Wizard is CID unlocked you can flash any Wizard ROM you choose to it.
Re: Please Assist- Cingular 8125 and downgrade options(if an
aixenv said:
I have currently the following:
IPL 2.25
SPL 2.25
GSM 2.25.11
OS 2.25.11.1
I am a self proclaimed newb when it comes to cell phone mods, however i've started to research on this site and read a few of faria's and other people threads. I have come to the conclusion i'd like to test out summiters AKUv2.3 ROM, however from what im reading it seems since my phone is NOT CID locked i can not first downgrade to unlock the CID (needing what i believe is an <v2.21) to then flash the rom to his custome rom. although i also saw where someone said they used a cingular shipped rom to downgrade their phone, i believe my phone originally came with v1.18. my other option is to return this phone to the carrier and get another phone which would ship with the v.1.18 or whatever it was and then i can follow faria's thread..
am i correct? or is there the ability to downgrade with my current setup
Thank you, great site, loads of info
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You'll want to flash to the original shipping rom which is on the xda-dev ftp at:
ftp://xda:[email protected]/Wizard/Roms/Cingular/Cingular_RUU_1.8.11.1.WWE.ship.exe
Once that's installed, use awizard or lokiwiz to CID unlock. And once that's done, flash to whichever ROM floats your boat.
Post back here if you run into any snags and can't resolve it reading through the existing messages.
Are you an AIX admin?
ahh yes im now finding on the ftp server
Cingular_RUU_1.8.11.1.WWE.ship.exe
yes linux/UNIX guru (AIX, FreeBSD, SUSE, etc) & phone noob, go figure..
im seeing conflicting statements here, 1 saying i can just downgrade to my shipped rom, the other saying i cant.
i received the phone yesterday, read up on some of the apps to try out, saw the new rom out, decided to try that out, did a soft reset on cingular extrom and then well have what i have, now i wanted to play a little more and test other peoples roms out and yet with no CID lock which would be the default i was under the impression i was SoL.. is that not correct? JUST to reverify with conflicting reports
after doing some more research i'm not sure which way is the accurate position, i read on one forum that there is a locking done once you go past the v2.21 rom so you cant downgrade to then Cid unlock, but then i've read other places you can, im downloading the v1.8.11.1 file and i guess ill find out soon enough
aixenv said:
after doing some more research i'm not sure which way is the accurate position, i read on one forum that there is a locking done once you go past the v2.21 rom so you cant downgrade to then Cid unlock, but then i've read other places you can, im downloading the v1.8.11.1 file and i guess ill find out soon enough
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Try it, the worst that will happen is that you get an error saying that you can't flash an older Rom (than what is already installed).
well the update (downgrade to v1.8 shipped rom from 2.25) util is at 75% atm, .. will update accordingly....
ok well it ran the "downgrade" with no problems, i soft reset on the cingular apps, and when the system boots back up i get the following:
IPL = 1.08
SPL = 2.25
GSM = 1.09.11
OS = 1.8.11.1
so from what ive read on the forums i think it's a good thing i asked them to overnight me a new phone due to faulty reception (which is true it doesn't get the reception a buddies gets)..because i would assume with the SPL at > 2.25 i wouldnt be able to unlock the CID, correct?

Got myself in a bind

Even though my 8125 was running just fine on a Molski ROM I got months ago, I had to go fiddle with it and see what kind of damage I could do. Now, I have myself stuck at IPL 1.01, SPL 2.26, GSM 01.12.10 and can't seem to find a way to get my IPL back to the 2.xx range. Since there are no longer any ROMs posted here, I am afraid to try some of the ones I am finding elsewhere since I don't know if I will turn my Wizard into a paper weight.
Does anyone know what ROM would be the best to use to give me a newer NBF so I can just put the current factory ROM on? I had read that the MrClean_RUU_WIZARD_224a_AKU23_WWE would be the right one, but I can't find it anywhere now.
Beeker said:
Even though my 8125 was running just fine on a Molski ROM I got months ago, I had to go fiddle with it and see what kind of damage I could do. Now, I have myself stuck at IPL 1.01, SPL 2.26, GSM 01.12.10 and can't seem to find a way to get my IPL back to the 2.xx range. Since there are no longer any ROMs posted here, I am afraid to try some of the ones I am finding elsewhere since I don't know if I will turn my Wizard into a paper weight.
Does anyone know what ROM would be the best to use to give me a newer NBF so I can just put the current factory ROM on?
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Run the T-mobile 2.26 rom which you should be able to get from tmobiles site. that will get you to ipl and spl 2.26
nottoosmart said:
Run the T-mobile 2.26 rom which you should be able to get from tmobiles site. that will get you to ipl and spl 2.26
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Appreciate the thought, but the T-Mobile site requests that I enter my phone number, which is not a T-mobile number, but a Cingular number.
Beeker said:
Appreciate the thought, but the T-Mobile site requests that I enter my phone number, which is not a T-mobile number, but a Cingular number.
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Then grab the rom from Cingular's site. I believe it will get you to IPL/SPL 2.25.
Any AKU2 carrier rom will help you (assuming you are CID unlocked since you previously had Molski's rom installed) In any case if you are a cingular customer and got your phone through them normally even if it is CID locked it is locked to Cingular and you can flash their rom.
That's the whole base of the problem here, as I said in the first post my IPL is only 1.01, so trying to install the Cingular ROM gives me the infamous "Please get a newer NBF file" error. I've tried everything I can to take care of the problem, but the needed ROMs to work back up to where I need to be are all gone.
Wizard Love and the Button ROMs are both available on PirateBay. Use the Button to do a CID Unlock again, or use Wizard Love to try to just recover.
As for the T-Mobile site, if you use the link in the sticky for how to CID Unlock by Dr. P, that one does not ask for a phone number. Takes you directly to the place where you do the download (I just downloaded it again yesterday and can email it to you if you need it (PM me with your email)).
Beeker said:
That's the whole base of the problem here, as I said in the first post my IPL is only 1.01, so trying to install the Cingular ROM gives me the infamous "Please get a newer NBF file" error. I've tried everything I can to take care of the problem, but the needed ROMs to work back up to where I need to be are all gone.
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Sorry, I didn't get out of your first post that you had tried the offical Cingular ROM just that you wanted to end up on it. Read through the G3 unlocking sticky. The button 1.05 rom should do the trick. I think the link in there is working though it may be a slow download. I no longer have any wizard roms on my system or I would host it so you could grab it real quick.
I haven't done this before (so take it for what its worth) but you could pull the Cingular RUU file apart with WinRAR, and get the nk.nbf file out of it and run that with a Rom Update Utility NOID (that comes with most of the custom ROMs) and that should allow you to flash it no matter what the IPL/SPL are at as I understand it. (so you shouldn't get the need newer message).
Okay, download the button ROM and the T-Mobile ROM now as well as printing out the unlocking guide. I know I've done this before, but it was a long time ago.
Thanks for the help guys!!!
---EDIT---
You know what, just reading the ENTIRE FRIGGEN INSTRUCTIONS solved the problem. One little line towards the end of Doc's instructions ... "A last note. If you DO ever go back to the 1.05 ROM for any reason you need to repeat the lokiwiz steps as you won't be able to install a 2.x IPL/SPL bootloader."
That's it, one little line on the last page that I just skimmed over and that's all it was in the end.

radio rom problem

hi...
i am a little noob when it comes to rom upgrading. so, i apologise if this is a stupid question. i flashed my wizard with wizard love rom. the ipl and spl both show 1.01 and os 2.26.10.2..but, no gsm.also, my phone doesn't catch signals.now, if i need to flash a radio rom, which radio rom should i flash, and is there any risk of bricking my device ??
thanks..
puja
There's very little risk (I'm definitely not going to say there's none because you always take some risk when flashing) with flashing a radio ROM. I kind of curious though, most people only flash the wizard love ROM so they can CID unlock before going on to flashing other ROM's such as a WM6 version. Are you planning on keeping the wizard love ROM as your OS? Which radio ROM you decide to flash kind of depends on where are and what ROM you're using. 2.19.11 seems to be the most popular one to flash though. Check the wizard wiki if you need to download it.
Basically flasing Radio ROM will not brick the device, and it also does not require CID unlocking.
Beside 2.19.11, 2.47.11 and 2.69.11 Radio ROM are also popular.
If you have unlocked your device after downgrading IPL and SPL, just get a 3.08 IPL/SPL upgrade package and you will get all IPL/SPL/Radio ROM upgraded to the most current version.
p.s. You now have IPL/SPL 1.01 that is too old and should be upgraded (Instead you MUST upgrade to at least 2.xx if you plan to use WM6)
i was earlier having ipl n spl 2.xx..but i wanted to unlock my device.so, i downgraded to button's 1.05 rom..but i couldn't unlock it (See my post in the topic 'The Definitive Guide to Unlocking & Rom Upgrading G3 Wizards'), after which i decided to simply flash the love rom...
What by mean of "couldn't unlock"?
What error is shown from lokiwiz/aWizard?
p.s. Unlocking require ActiveSync connection
edit. sorry
starkwong said:
What by mean of "couldn't unlock"?
What error is shown from lokiwiz/aWizard?
p.s. Unlocking require ActiveSync connection
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when i run 'lokiwiz.bat' as instructed, it says 'your phone is now unlocked', but my device doesn't reboot..u may read my post in ''The Definitive Guide to Unlocking & Rom Upgrading G3 Wizards"..is there any way to check if my phone is unlocked or not ???
Search for and download wizard service tool. It has a button on it that you can press and it will tell you if you're unlocked or not.
I'll save you the searching since about 10 seconds after I wrote that last post I saw the wizard service tool thread. It's here - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=295038

Wizard stuck at splash screen!!! DEAD!

Hi,
I accidentally flashed a not CID unlocked wizard with Black Diamond rom using a ShellTool - now it loads only till windows splash screen!
It is G3 device - it allows to flash Buton rom, also MiniSrom and others - process bar goes to 100% but windows doesn't boot anyway!
What options do I have?
PS. I guess I'm one of the guy who have bricked the most devices ever - this one, 3x HTC Tytn, S200, etc.
Need QTEK 9100 German Rom - the wiki links are dead!
Can anybody please advise where to look for Qtek 9100 german rom?!!!
It is G3 device - it allows to flash Buton rom, also MiniSrom and others - process bar goes to 100% but windows doesn't boot anyway!
What options do I have?
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Suche hilft wie immer weiter
Es gibt bereits einige Threads zum Thema!
Have a look for the SD Card Backup method - see also in the wiki for reference/link.
hi, thanks for the replay!
How does the SD card method is supposed to work? Do I need a backup of the old rom? I don't have one!
The phone is NOT cid unlcoked!
After a while playing with the Wizards I have found some things - I got 4 wizards by now - and I have managed to brick 2 of them.
First thing to recommend to all - if your Wizard is running and everything is fine - then don't upgrade - you don't need that brick. Trough if you try to upgrade and you can't get from wm5 to wm6 - then probably you should stop trying unless you want to brick your device totally!!!!
Now I have one Wizard G3 probaby not CID unlocked with IPL 1.01 / SPL 1.03 and different OS versions - I can flash button Rom, Wizard Love etc. but nothing changes, just the version of the OS. I have no GSM and the IPL stays 0.01.
The second one - seems to be CID unlocked - allows to flash any rom, IPL changes, SPL stays at 3.08 - can't downgrade, OS changes - can't boot!
I can flash these units forever, I can change bootscreens - but I can't get back to windows!
This happened when I tried to use ShellTool to flash WM6 on my Wizards - don't do that!!!!
Can anybody tell me why I'm not able to boot OS if I have the Wizard Love rom, button rom and other full working roms on my wizards?
Thanks!
PS. I'm starting to consider to donate a few devices to someone who could try to solve this - I could donate: 3 HTC Tytn, 2 Wizards, 2 Prophets, 2 Alpine etc. - is anybody interested?
karlux - I'd be willing to take a crack at the devices you have and get some good documentation going for everyone. I have successfully revived Wizards, Apache, Wallaby, and the Hurricane so far.
PM/Email me if you want my address to send the victims ...er ... I mean "patients".
donate? how about sending one my way?
karlux said:
After a while playing with the Wizards I have found some things - I got 4 wizards by now - and I have managed to brick 2 of them.
First thing to recommend to all - if your Wizard is running and everything is fine - then don't upgrade - you don't need that brick. Trough if you try to upgrade and you can't get from wm5 to wm6 - then probably you should stop trying unless you want to brick your device totally!!!!
Now I have one Wizard G3 probaby not CID unlocked with IPL 1.01 / SPL 1.03 and different OS versions - I can flash button Rom, Wizard Love etc. but nothing changes, just the version of the OS. I have no GSM and the IPL stays 0.01.
The second one - seems to be CID unlocked - allows to flash any rom, IPL changes, SPL stays at 3.08 - can't downgrade, OS changes - can't boot!
I can flash these units forever, I can change bootscreens - but I can't get back to windows!
This happened when I tried to use ShellTool to flash WM6 on my Wizards - don't do that!!!!
Can anybody tell me why I'm not able to boot OS if I have the Wizard Love rom, button rom and other full working roms on my wizards?
Thanks!
PS. I'm starting to consider to donate a few devices to someone who could try to solve this - I could donate: 3 HTC Tytn, 2 Wizards, 2 Prophets, 2 Alpine etc. - is anybody interested?
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How come you have that many devices ? What's your job ?
Your "dead" wizard is not dead. Only stuck. Get it into bootloader and re-flash .
karlux said:
After a while playing with the Wizards I have found some things - I got 4 wizards by now - and I have managed to brick 2 of them.
First thing to recommend to all - if your Wizard is running and everything is fine - then don't upgrade - you don't need that brick. Trough if you try to upgrade and you can't get from wm5 to wm6 - then probably you should stop trying unless you want to brick your device totally!!!!
Now I have one Wizard G3 probaby not CID unlocked with IPL 1.01 / SPL 1.03 and different OS versions - I can flash button Rom, Wizard Love etc. but nothing changes, just the version of the OS. I have no GSM and the IPL stays 0.01.
The second one - seems to be CID unlocked - allows to flash any rom, IPL changes, SPL stays at 3.08 - can't downgrade, OS changes - can't boot!
I can flash these units forever, I can change bootscreens - but I can't get back to windows!
This happened when I tried to use ShellTool to flash WM6 on my Wizards - don't do that!!!!
Can anybody tell me why I'm not able to boot OS if I have the Wizard Love rom, button rom and other full working roms on my wizards?
Thanks!
PS. I'm starting to consider to donate a few devices to someone who could try to solve this - I could donate: 3 HTC Tytn, 2 Wizards, 2 Prophets, 2 Alpine etc. - is anybody interested?
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Shelltool isn't dangerous if you use it properly, meaning you can't flash WM6 if the IPL/SPl are still in 1.xx
To use the SD card method and the phone is CID locked then i recommend using imeicheck's tool to CID unlock (must pay) and then try that method.
As for the donation, i wouldn't mind geeting a Prophet as they are related to the Wizard and in case it could be recovered i could try to make a similar tool to WST: the Prophet Service Tool
let me know if you'd like PM or other means of contact...
cheers
sorry-thread hijacking-
I have a similar problem, i (thought) i had CID unlocked my wizard, followed all the instructions, about reflashing the rom's went to 1.05 the to 2.26 & then IPL & SPL to 3.08 in an attempt to flash WM6..
all went well until the last step & it got to 99% of flashing WM6 & came up with a communication error (battery is fully charged!)
Now im stuck in bootloader, & can't re flash any other roms, tried the wizard with love & 1.05 again ...noting doing... have i made a complete brick ??
HELP!!!!!!!
edit, just tried with the O2 offical upgrade...it started to load on but came up with Error 296 Upgrade Only, the NBF file could not be used...
TRY THIS .... I just recovered from a similar stuck in BootLoader issue.
Steps to recovery:
1. Fully charge your phone (VIA Power Cord ... NOT USB)
2. Get the phone to bootloader (three color mode) - by soft resetting and holding the camera button at the same time
2. Connect it to the computer (Windows XP) with a USB cable
3. You will notice "USB" written in a lower corner of the phone (this means it is connected)
4. Download your providers ROM (The "real" rom provided by Cingular/ATT). You can get the one for the 8125 from HTCAmerica here: http://www.htcamerica.net/support/8125/software-downloads.html
5. Stop ActiveSync (from Task Manager)
6. Run the program downloaded in step 4. This will reflash your phone with the ROM. This seems to be the ONLY WAY possible to reload a ROM from BootLoader.
Enjoy!
Thanks, i;ve tried that with this software & the o2 software....i get the same error message both times...
Error296 UPGRADE ONLY,
This NBF File cannot be used on you PDA Phone,
Please get a newer NBF file.
WTF is a NBF file, where do i get a newer one from & how do i get it on the device!!!
thanks
Zpyro said:
TRY THIS .... I just recovered from a similar stuck in BootLoader issue.
Steps to recovery:
1. Fully charge your phone (VIA Power Cord ... NOT USB)
2. Get the phone to bootloader (three color mode) - by soft resetting and holding the camera button at the same time
2. Connect it to the computer (Windows XP) with a USB cable
3. You will notice "USB" written in a lower corner of the phone (this means it is connected)
4. Download your providers ROM (The "real" rom provided by Cingular/ATT). You can get the one for the 8125 from HTCAmerica here: http://www.htcamerica.net/support/8125/software-downloads.html
5. Stop ActiveSync (from Task Manager)
6. Run the program downloaded in step 4. This will reflash your phone with the ROM. This seems to be the ONLY WAY possible to reload a ROM from BootLoader.
Enjoy!
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What is the make/model of your phone?
A nbf file is the file that gets flashed onto the phone (nk.nbf)
it was an xda mini s....i tried loading WM6 & came unstuck.....
huhu
karlux said:
Hi,
I accidentally flashed a not CID unlocked wizard with Black Diamond rom using a ShellTool - now it loads only till windows splash screen!
It is G3 device - it allows to flash Buton rom, also MiniSrom and others - process bar goes to 100% but windows doesn't boot anyway!
What options do I have?
PS. I guess I'm one of the guy who have bricked the most devices ever - this one, 3x HTC Tytn, S200, etc.
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me too....!
markm2 said:
Thanks, i;ve tried that with this software & the o2 software....i get the same error message both times...
Error296 UPGRADE ONLY,
This NBF File cannot be used on you PDA Phone,
Please get a newer NBF file.
WTF is a NBF file, where do i get a newer one from & how do i get it on the device!!!
thanks
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Hey!
I believe,as u have mentioned in ur earlier post that u have upgraded to ipl/spl 3.08,therefore all the official roms r not flashing.Well its not necessary to upgrade to ipl/spl 3.08 to go for wm6.All the experts & cooks in all their threads have mentioned to upgrade to ipl/spl 2.26 to have a stable/strong working plateform, so now I wud suggest u to plz try to flash Buttons's rom 1.05 and get back to ipl/spl 1.05 than onward upgrade to ipl/spl 2.26 by flashing t_mobile 2.26.
If u r able to get back to ipl/spl 1.05,than again use lokiwiz to confirm CID unlock,hope this works out. U can also use the latest WST tool by mestrini to check the status of ur wizzard as if its cid locked or unlocked.it can also be used to unlock cid,goodluck
zabardast_1 said:
Hey!
I believe,as u have mentioned in ur earlier post that u have upgraded to ipl/spl 3.08,therefore all the official roms r not flashing.Well its not necessary to upgrade to ipl/spl 3.08 to go for wm6.All the experts & cooks in all their threads have mentioned to upgrade to ipl/spl 2.26 to have a stable/strong working plateform, so now I wud suggest u to plz try to flash Buttons's rom 1.05 and get back to ipl/spl 1.05 than onward upgrade to ipl/spl 2.26 by flashing t_mobile 2.26.
If u r able to get back to ipl/spl 1.05,than again use lokiwiz to confirm CID unlock,hope this works out. U can also use the latest WST tool by mestrini to check the status of ur wizzard as if its cid locked or unlocked.it can also be used to unlock cid,goodluck
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I just want to add that you MUST stop at 2.xx bootloader when downgrading from 3.08 to 1.xx, otherwise you might end up with a 'locked' SPL in 3.08
you need donate the device ....
I just want to add that you MUST stop at 2.xx bootloader when downgrading from 3.08 to 1.xx, otherwise you might end up with a 'locked' SPL in 3.08
YUP!!
Thanks Mestrini
very wise & valuable advise
Btw, very valuable tool it is WST TOOL,made our lives soooo simple
zabardast_1 said:
I just want to add that you MUST stop at 2.xx bootloader when downgrading from 3.08 to 1.xx, otherwise you might end up with a 'locked' SPL in 3.08
YUP!!
Thanks Mestrini
very wise & valuable advise
Btw, very valuable tool it is WST TOOL,made our lives soooo simple
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Tx m8, that's why i made it and i'm glad you like it.

Help on Cingular 8125

I have bought this old phone coz it costs less than other cellphones with Wi-fi. What I really need is to install or have Voip/sip in it. But browsing and searching for answers on how to put voip in it made me stumble on this forum
i've been reading these past few days and as I read on, I am learning something and also being more confused for all the terms and other stuffs.
I would appreciate if somebody could help me.
What I have is unlocked Cingular 8125 (using my own sim via a local network here in Saipan, USA) with the following:
WM5.0 OS 5.1.195 (Build 14928.2.2.0)
IPL 2.25
SPL 2.25
GSM 02.25.11
OS 2.25.11.1
I checked other posts and this page and found below which are not compatible with my device:
If your IPL/SPL numbers are in the form X.xx (i.e 2.26, 1.08, etc.) you have a G3
If your IPL/SPL numbers are in the form X.xx.xxx1 (i.e. 2.26.0001), you have a G4
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and also below:
Download the appropriate IPL/SPL based on your device and carrier.
T-Mobile MDA G4 IPL&SPL.zip
AT&T 8125 G4 IPL&SPL.zip
Vodafone Qtek 9100 G4 IPl&SPL.zip
Orange SPV M3000 G4 IPL&SPL.zip
O2 XDA Mini S G4 IPL&SPL.zip
Depending on your device and Carrier, download the appropriate Rom for your device:
T-Mobile MDA Official WM5 Rom
AT&T 8125 Official WM5 Rom
Vodafone Qtek 9100 Official WM5 Rom
Orange SPV M3000 Official WM5 Rom
O2 XDA Mini S Official WM5 Rom
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Again, I only need to have voip/sip working so I can call my family in the PHilippines and Canada for free. But I think the ways to have it are so far from now so I would appreciate a lot of help you can give me.
By the way, I am a contract worker and dont have much money so I need to make this thing work and can't afford to pay for somebody who could do this for me.
Thank you so much.
ok,
IPL 2.25
SPL 2.25
"If your IPL/SPL numbers are in the form X.xx (i.e 2.26, 1.08, etc.) you have a G3",as your's is 2.25 it means X.xx,its a G3 device,so don't bother to read or be concerned about G4 devices,only read and follow the threads and procedures concerning G3 devices,it'll lessen the burden on your mind and make things more clear.
T-Mobile MDA G4 IPL&SPL.zip
AT&T 8125 G4 IPL&SPL.zip
Vodafone Qtek 9100 G4 IPl&SPL.zip
Orange SPV M3000 G4 IPL&SPL.zip
O2 XDA Mini S G4 IPL&SPL.zip
These are IPL/SPL (Bootloaders) for G4 phones,none of your concern.
Depending on your device and Carrier, download the appropriate Rom for your device:
T-Mobile MDA Official WM5 Rom
AT&T 8125 Official WM5 Rom
Vodafone Qtek 9100 Official WM5 Rom
Orange SPV M3000 Official WM5 Rom
O2 XDA Mini S Official WM5 Rom
All these are Official stock carrier Roms of different networks,they are all good for both G3 And G4 phones.they include IPL/SPL for both the devices.when flashed, will only flash those IPL/SPL (Bootloaders) concerning the specific device.These roms can safely be flashed equally both to G3 & G4 devices.
Ok,for setting up 'VOIP/SIP' check out this link below for instructions and appropriate setting :-
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=299950
Cheers!
Thanks for your reply zabardast_1.
Noted and I will follow you in concentrating only G3 threads and procedures.
For now, my follow up question would be:
T-Mobile MDA Official WM5 Rom
AT&T 8125 Official WM5 Rom
Vodafone Qtek 9100 Official WM5 Rom
Orange SPV M3000 Official WM5 Rom
O2 XDA Mini S Official WM5 Rom
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- if these are the official Roms, and I am using my 8125 thru a local carrier here (which is not included in the above list, although the phone is Cingular branded but unlocked), then which one should I use? The AT&T?
and....
what are the chances that my phone will be bricked if I wont be successful on doing this myself?
Karen29 said:
Thanks for your reply zabardast_1.
Noted and I will follow you in concentrating only G3 threads and procedures.
For now, my follow up question would be:
- if these are the official Roms, and I am using my 8125 thru a local carrier here (which is not included in the above list, although the phone is Cingular branded but unlocked), then which one should I use? The AT&T?
and....
what are the chances that my phone will be bricked if I wont be successful on doing this myself?
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G3's are not that easy to get 'Bricked',its only if you flash G4 ipl/spl to a G3 phone,then there are bright chances of getting it bricked.
Secondly,all wizard phones are build by HTC with same hareware and features,regardless of vendors and cellular networks,it maybe cingular 8125,T-mobile MDA,Qtek 9100 or O2 Mini S,they all are of same build,hardware and features manufactured by HTC.You can flash any of the Roms mentioned but I wud prefer the AT&T 8125 Official WM5 Rom.The rom is the OS of the phone,it doesn't matter which local carrier you are using,its the sim of the carrier which is in use.You can easily flash a T-mobile rom on a At&TT phone or vice versa.Only the GPRS and other network settings differ from carrier to carrier.
Cheers!
I have a few more questions pls see ****
Wizard Windows Mobile 6 for newbies (I've found this here at http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Wizard Windows Mobile 6 for newbies)
Intro
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Audience
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Requirements
Computer with Windows XP ***Im running in Windows Vista so I will take a look at the other post. But Iknow that basically this procedure is almost the same, right?
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Definitions
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Procedure
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However, before you start flashing, consider the following:
1. Is your device a G3 or G4 Wizard? If it's G4, Follow the G4 portion of the tutorial. If you follow the G3 tutorial you will effectively BRICK your phone. I'll tell you how to tell the difference between G3 and G4 below. ****my phone is G3 (as per your previous message)
2. Did you get your phone through a carrier (or is it carrier branded)? i.e. does your phone say T-Mobile or Cingular, or O2, or anything that identifies it as having come from a cell phone company? If yes, it's probably locked. As you now know, a SIM lock is different from a CID lock. We'll need to CID unlock your phone in order to flash WM6. ***** i bought it from ebay and right now, I am using SIM from a local network here so I guess it is SIM unlocked. So that means I only need to CID unlock?
3. Get the right IPL/SPL version. Most ROMs require BOTH IPL and SPL to be 2.xx. If you're at 1.xx, you need to take an additional step of flashing an official ROM. v(G3 Only step) ****my IPL/SPL is 2.25 and I need to use AT&T G3...zip, right?
4. Pick a ROM and flash it! **** AT&T or is this the WM6?
5. Enjoy your new functionality! **** I hope so.
6. Do additional stuff (install applications, change splash screens, and anything else you ask me to write about) *** I need the SIP/VOIP so my VOipcheap would work
1. Phone version (aka "Which guide do I follow if I don't want to have a brick?").....
If your IPL/SPL numbers are in the form X.xx (i.e 2.26, 1.08, etc.) you have a G3
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2. Unlocking (CID and SIM) G3 and G4 Tutorials.
G3 ONLY!
(Credit to Dr. Puttingham for the walkthough which I used as a basis for this portion of the tutorial.)
..... Also, make sure that your phone is nearly fully charged(at least 75%), otherwise things may go loopy.***I will.
1. Download the Button ROM to your computer **** ok
2. Attach your Wizard to your computer using the USB cable. For the love of G-d, do NOT do this over bluetooth or IR. It will most likely not work, but if it does, all hell will break loose.
3. If you have ActiveSync, (****I dont. So if I download this ActiceSync, by default, there is no parnertship, right?) make sure there are no active partnerships with your device. With your device NOT plugged in, go into ActiveSync file->delete mobile device. Once you plug the device back in, cancel synchronization. Your wizard should be showing up in ActiveSync as Guest.
4. With your device connected to your computer as Guest, run the file that your downloaded. (****The Button ROM???) It's pretty much self-explanatory. Agree to everything, and let it do it's thing. It is downgrading your IPL to 1.05. You can only unlock your phone if the IPL is 1.xx, you can't do it if your IPL is 2.xx. (<- ****what do you mean by this? coz i have 2.25) Always have lots of patience. The 10 minutes to complete statement is a guide, if your computer is running at a 90% CPU load with 99% of your RAM full (which it shouldn't), expect this to take a lot longer. If it so happens that you get an error at 99%, try The Xda_MiniS_LaunchROM_v154102.exe.
5. Once the flash is done and your Wizard is rebooted, it will display an IPL of 1.xx and an SPL of 2.xx.
6. Download Lokiwiz 0.2b.
7. Use Winzip or Winrar to extract the files to any folder on your computer(it is recommended you create a folder specifically for lokiwiz), DO NOT JUST COPY THEM! There is a directory structure inside the zip file, and this will not work if that directory structure is not maintained. This had driven me nuts the first time I did it, it was giving me all kinds of "file not found" errors. ***ok?
8. Copy enablerapi.cab from your PC to anywhere on your Wizard using ActiveSync. Remember not to create a partnership (make sure you're still connected as a Guest).
9. Go to your Wizard (***while it is connected to my computer???) and use the File Explorer to find the file you just copied. Click on it and install it to the main memory ("Device", not extended memory).
10. Back on your PC, open the folder you just created when you extracted Lokiwiz and click lokiwiz.bat. Another option if you feel comfortable is to extract lokiwiz 0.2b to your C Drive and then open up command prompt type in "cd C:" without the quotes. This should take you to your C:\ drive. Type lokiwiz.bat.
11. You will see the following:
U. Unlock
L. Lock
C. CID Unlock (SuperCID)
Q. Quit
Unlock refers to SIM Unlock and CID unlock refers to...well. If you still don't know the difference, go back and read from the beginning.
1. Press U on your computer keyboard. lokiwiz will SIM unlock your phone and REBOOT. If it doesn't reboot, you did something wrong. Try again. The procedure may take a few minutes to complete, so if your Wizard doesn't reboot right away, don't freak out. ***do i have to do this?
2. Rerun the lokiwiz.bat file, this time pressing C. Wait for the Wizard to reboot.
3. While rebooting, keep an eye on the IPL/SPL numbers. If the IPL is 1.05, good. If they are both still 2.xx, rerun the button ROM (or the other ROM that worked for you). You won't need to re-unlock the device.It is recommended that you make sure you sucessfully flashed the button rom(or whatever rom worked for you) and your IPL is 1.05 before you SIM and CID unlock your device.
4. You have 2 options now. Once you have successfully CID unlocked your phone, you can either re-flash the Button ROM or whichever ROM you used to obtain matching 1.05 IPL/SPL(NOT REQUIRED) or continue to the next step which is to continue with the upgrade and upgrade back to IPL/SPL version 2.xx (yes, you need to downgrade then upgrade back...it's just what you have to do however time-wasteful it may seem). Everyone seems to like the T-mobile Official WM5 ROM (****I need to use the AT&T Official, right?) , so what the heck, I think you'll like it too. Flash it the same way you flashed the Button ROM (double click and go through the installation). Remember to have patience! Also, You should save the T-Mobile .exe file since you will need to flash back to that first every time you want to switch ROMs (again, no matter how time wasteful it seems, trust me, do it).
5. OPTIONAL STEP:: Once you have successfully CID unlocked your G3 device and have the T-Mobile Official WM5 ROM back on your device, you now have the option to upgrade to IPL/SPL 3.08. Upgrading to IPL/SPL 3.08 is just like flashing a tiny little ROM It will not change the functionality of the device whatsoever but will speed up the boot sequence a little. Any little bit helps right? You can Find the download link for IPL/SPL 3.08 HERE Just download the .rar file EXTRACT it to its own folder. <!-- DO NOT COPY AND PASTE THESE FILES TO ANOTHER FOLDER. There is a definite file structure that will be ruined if you copy and paste and it will not work. --> Run the Rom Update Utility (****how?) and again, follow the simple self explanatory steps to complete the upgrade and then your device will reboot itself. Keep an eye on the IPL/SPL when the device is rebooting. It should now be 3.08 for both and your device should now boot more quickly.
WM6 ROMs
Pick a WM6 ROM and flash it. Now that you have a good T-Mobile WM5 ROM with IPL/SPL at 2.26 (if one of them is not at 2.26, RE-FLASH IT!) or IPL/SPL 3.08, you're ready to install a WM6 ROM. This is where I have to step back. Due to forum politics, I cannot go ahead and suggest a ROM (neither can anyone else, and if you ask this on the forums, you will get flamed and your topic will be locked). Besides, the minute I suggest a ROM on this page, a better one will come out. All I can tell you is if you're after all the nice touch stuff (of course you are!), look at the ROMs that boast TouchFlo (TNT and ?BlackDiamond are just two examples). Go to the forum, under Wizard Mobile 6 (***I have to make sure that its AT&T, right?) and take your pick. It is like being a little kid in a candy store, the variety is so immense. The only advice I could give you from personal experience, is that ROMs with newer builds(higher build numbers) tend to have more bugs than the older builds(obviously, the builds that have lower numbers) tend to be more stable with less bugs. THIS IS NOT TRUE FOR ALL ROMS!! Some ROMs with newer builds are VERY stable with only minor bugs if any but I am not going to get into that. I would also suggest reading some of the discussion regarding the author's ROM to see what bugs there are (hint: all ROMs have bugs, the question is how many and what can you live with. A relatively minor bug for me may be a show-stopper for you). You flash this ROM the exact same way you flashed the button ROM and the T-Mobile ROM. Configure it to your liking and enjoy!
**** If this is successful, then I would go on and install voip/sip, right?
HOWA !!!
Long questionair,
Anyway ! just to a cut short,
1. WinXP is highly recommended for flashing and upgrading,with winvista,there are many problems.so I advise you to consider winXP.
2. ActiveSync 4.5 will not work on winVista,it only works on winXP,for Vista you'll have to download Windows Mobile Device (WMD).
3. YES ! its a G3 device(IPL/SPL 2.25),If its SIM unlocked,it might be CID unlocked too,its not essential,but maybe,as you bought a used phone from ebay.To verify if its CID unlocked,download the WST tool and run the "CID Action' button,it'll verify the CID locked/unlocked status of the phone.
4.If its CID unlocked,there's no need to downgrade by flashing 'Button's Rom 1.05 to 1.xx to unlock with lokiwiz02b,but if isn't cid unlocked,you'll have to downgrade it to ipl/spl 1.xx.
5. YES ! if its cid unlocked,you need ipl/spl 2.xx to upgrade to any wm6 rom,yes,you can use the official stock rom of at&tt,but T-mobile 2.26 has proved to be the most stable 2.xx rom and is highly recommended to upgrade to 2.xx for upgrade to wm6 as a good base.
6. NO ! there's no wm6 upgrade available for official stock AT&TT,you'll have to depend on latest custom build wm6 roms,which are avaiable in this forum.
Well,if you have to downgrade and CID unlock through lokiwiz02b,read and follow the guide by Dr.Putts.
Cheers!
follow-up questions ****
1. i will look for winxp
2. if i didnt find winxp pc here, i would have to do it thru vista
3. WST Tool? download it to my PC (with winxp) and connect my wizard?
4. ok. then i will follow the steps.
5. YES ! if its cid unlocked,you need ipl/spl 2.xx to upgrade to any wm6 rom,yes,you can use the official stock rom of at&tt,but T-mobile 2.26 has proved to be the most stable 2.xx rom and is highly recommended to upgrade to 2.xx for upgrade to wm6 as a good base.
(****so i dont need to upgrade coz i have 2.25??? or i still need a new official ROM like T-mobilie 2.26 so I can upgrade to wm6???)
6. NO ! there's no wm6 upgrade available for official stock AT&TT,you'll have to depend on latest custom build wm6 roms,which are avaiable in this forum.
***any wm6 will do, right?
thanks so much.
Hi there!
Im lost! I cant find a PC with WinXP that I can use
I think I will have to do it with Vista. And of course, I need to start all over again from the start on reading and learning.
Is this the right post for me? including the links to the stuffs I need to download? (coz I notice there's not much to download and not much stuffs like the button rom and the At&T rom and others).
I mean, considering that I have a G4 with IPL/SPL 2.25.
Please help.
Karen29 said:
Hi there!
Im lost! I cant find a PC with WinXP that I can use
I think I will have to do it with Vista. And of course, I need to start all over again from the start on reading and learning.
Is this the right post for me? including the links to the stuffs I need to download? (coz I notice there's not much to download and not much stuffs like the button rom and the At&T rom and others).
I mean, considering that I have a G4 with IPL/SPL 2.25.
Please help.
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YUP ! follow the above thread and download the drivers for winvista or you can check out this below link also :-
http://www.anichillus.net/index.php?topic=21.0
well,as you say it has 2.25 then its a G3,but if its got ipl/spl 2.25.0001 thenits a G4,why don't you download and WST tool and get the device info,it'll certify which is your phone a G3 or G4,ok
Cheers!
After I go through the ROM update
The ROM update seems to work fine installs 100% the 8125 then reboots the Splash screen comes up with the beer bottle, but it HANGS on this Screen and Does not do anything should i leave it longer.
ive been working with other ROMS and now this one for the last week, and It seems like its just hanging at this Screen.
also my active sync isnt really regonizing the 8125, under explorer it shows mobile device, and the computer beeps when i plug it in but sync doesnt seem to regonize it...
it has in the past but not while loading this button rom coul that have somethign to do with it?
natdizzle said:
The ROM update seems to work fine installs 100% the 8125 then reboots the Splash screen comes up with the beer bottle, but it HANGS on this Screen and Does not do anything should i leave it longer.
ive been working with other ROMS and now this one for the last week, and It seems like its just hanging at this Screen.
also my active sync isnt really regonizing the 8125, under explorer it shows mobile device, and the computer beeps when i plug it in but sync doesnt seem to regonize it...
it has in the past but not while loading this button rom coul that have somethign to do with it?
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Do a Soft Reset or Hard reset,it'll load up fine,if not,then reflash the button's Rom again.
Cheers!
OKay
Soft you mean the litte reset button hard you mean battery ive tried all of that...
I guess ill keep trying to reload thebutton rom you seem confident itll be lright
I HOPE I MISS MY PHONE!!
zabardast_1 said:
YUP ! follow the above thread and download the drivers for winvista or you can check out this below link also :-
http://www.anichillus.net/index.php?topic=21.0
well,as you say it has 2.25 then its a G3,but if its got ipl/spl 2.25.0001 thenits a G4,why don't you download and WST tool and get the device info,it'll certify which is your phone a G3 or G4,ok
Cheers!
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hi there! I am trying to follow the steps (vista) but cant get to bootloader mode.
which is the side ok button? and which hole should i put my stylus (coz the holes at the bottom are only the earphone, usb and the one that you can put dangle or something)?
also, what does it really look like when its in the bootloader mode?
thanks.
pls note that there is a hole on the right side that when i press it with stylus...the device will reset.
Hi there!
Got the bootloader! I pressed the hole on the right side with the stylus and when the screen is blank, I pressed and hold camera button and there you go....the bootloader with that colorful screen.
I followed the steps and now the WMDC can see my phone.
Now what?
- need to upgrade to wm6, right? (although, i thought that the steps i followed would make my phone wm6 already)
- then, need to get the voip/sip
Now i need to know how. LOL!
Pls tell me something more about this....thanks
it works YUPEEEEEEEEE
u are not going to belive but my phone is working now........... i fix the from cingular to tmobile in the minute............ IT WORKSSSSSSSSSSSS i started with the beer bottle. then i press soft reset button on the boot screen i press camera button and then i got three color screen .after that i plug my USB cord and computer did a beep so my usb was conected..
i went and download the tmobile flash and then unziped on my desktop in the new folder.
did restart on my computer and then run the lockwiz ....... i did update my sistem.. when is booting it say cingular but im using my tmobile sim card..........
HTC 8125
OMAP850
195 mhz
ram sz 64 mb
flash size 128
flashchip m-SYSTEMS
i got version
2.25.11.1wwe
rom date 5/11/06/
something must me wrong with mine..im doing everything have the beer loading screen IPL 1.05 SPL 2.25 Nothing...freezes on splash....
trying the unlocking tools, but i cant get past splash, or RGB screen soo i dont know if it will work from there...
natdizzle said:
something must me wrong with mine..im doing everything have the beer loading screen IPL 1.05 SPL 2.25 Nothing...freezes on splash....
trying the unlocking tools, but i cant get past splash, or RGB screen soo i dont know if it will work from there...
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Relax,try a Soft Reset or Hard reset,if it works,fine,if not get into bootloaders and flash the Button's Rom again.
Cheers!
me, i dont really know what to do next.
Zabardast, pls guide me. After wat i did above, what will i do now?
Thanks.
zabardast_1 said:
YUP ! follow the above thread and download the drivers for winvista or you can check out this below link also :-
http://www.anichillus.net/index.php?topic=21.0
well,as you say it has 2.25 then its a G3,but if its got ipl/spl 2.25.0001 thenits a G4,why don't you download and WST tool and get the device info,it'll certify which is your phone a G3 or G4,ok
Cheers!
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I followed that but I get lost. I thought everythng would be ok. but my phone is still wm5.
pls help. thanks.
by the way, what is that latest RUU.zip?

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