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Please Assist- Cingular 8125 and downgrade options(if any)

I have currently the following:
IPL 2.25
SPL 2.25
GSM 2.25.11
OS 2.25.11.1
I am a self proclaimed newb when it comes to cell phone mods, however i've started to research on this site and read a few of faria's and other people threads. I have come to the conclusion i'd like to test out summiters AKUv2.3 ROM, however from what im reading it seems since my phone is NOT CID locked i can not first downgrade to unlock the CID (needing what i believe is an <v2.21) to then flash the rom to his custome rom. although i also saw where someone said they used a cingular shipped rom to downgrade their phone, i believe my phone originally came with v1.18. my other option is to return this phone to the carrier and get another phone which would ship with the v.1.18 or whatever it was and then i can follow faria's thread..
am i correct? or is there the ability to downgrade with my current setup
Thank you, great site, loads of info

If your phone is CID locked (and it is CID locked by default unless you have unlocked it) upgrading to the 2.25 ROM has prevented you from using the free tools on this site to do the unlock.
If you want to CID unlock you will have to pay for the http://imei-check.co.uk service. It claims to do both a SIM and CID unlock and is currently the only known way to CID unlock ROMs that are version 2.21 and higher. If you wait, a free solution will no doubt come out but if you want it now, it's going to cost you £20/$40.
Once the Wizard is CID unlocked you can flash any Wizard ROM you choose to it.

Re: Please Assist- Cingular 8125 and downgrade options(if an
aixenv said:
I have currently the following:
IPL 2.25
SPL 2.25
GSM 2.25.11
OS 2.25.11.1
I am a self proclaimed newb when it comes to cell phone mods, however i've started to research on this site and read a few of faria's and other people threads. I have come to the conclusion i'd like to test out summiters AKUv2.3 ROM, however from what im reading it seems since my phone is NOT CID locked i can not first downgrade to unlock the CID (needing what i believe is an <v2.21) to then flash the rom to his custome rom. although i also saw where someone said they used a cingular shipped rom to downgrade their phone, i believe my phone originally came with v1.18. my other option is to return this phone to the carrier and get another phone which would ship with the v.1.18 or whatever it was and then i can follow faria's thread..
am i correct? or is there the ability to downgrade with my current setup
Thank you, great site, loads of info
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You'll want to flash to the original shipping rom which is on the xda-dev ftp at:
ftp://xda:[email protected]/Wizard/Roms/Cingular/Cingular_RUU_1.8.11.1.WWE.ship.exe
Once that's installed, use awizard or lokiwiz to CID unlock. And once that's done, flash to whichever ROM floats your boat.
Post back here if you run into any snags and can't resolve it reading through the existing messages.
Are you an AIX admin?

ahh yes im now finding on the ftp server
Cingular_RUU_1.8.11.1.WWE.ship.exe
yes linux/UNIX guru (AIX, FreeBSD, SUSE, etc) & phone noob, go figure..
im seeing conflicting statements here, 1 saying i can just downgrade to my shipped rom, the other saying i cant.
i received the phone yesterday, read up on some of the apps to try out, saw the new rom out, decided to try that out, did a soft reset on cingular extrom and then well have what i have, now i wanted to play a little more and test other peoples roms out and yet with no CID lock which would be the default i was under the impression i was SoL.. is that not correct? JUST to reverify with conflicting reports

after doing some more research i'm not sure which way is the accurate position, i read on one forum that there is a locking done once you go past the v2.21 rom so you cant downgrade to then Cid unlock, but then i've read other places you can, im downloading the v1.8.11.1 file and i guess ill find out soon enough

aixenv said:
after doing some more research i'm not sure which way is the accurate position, i read on one forum that there is a locking done once you go past the v2.21 rom so you cant downgrade to then Cid unlock, but then i've read other places you can, im downloading the v1.8.11.1 file and i guess ill find out soon enough
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Try it, the worst that will happen is that you get an error saying that you can't flash an older Rom (than what is already installed).

well the update (downgrade to v1.8 shipped rom from 2.25) util is at 75% atm, .. will update accordingly....

ok well it ran the "downgrade" with no problems, i soft reset on the cingular apps, and when the system boots back up i get the following:
IPL = 1.08
SPL = 2.25
GSM = 1.09.11
OS = 1.8.11.1
so from what ive read on the forums i think it's a good thing i asked them to overnight me a new phone due to faulty reception (which is true it doesn't get the reception a buddies gets)..because i would assume with the SPL at > 2.25 i wouldnt be able to unlock the CID, correct?

kinda brick need to upgrade rom!

ok so i kinda f'ed up my phone..
the specs are
IPL:1.08
SPL:1.08
OS:1.8.11.1
and i decided to flash the radio rom 2.47.11 and now it freezes when i try to enter in my password at start up..i read that what i need to do is get it into bootloader and flash a 2.x rom on it but when i try to pres the reset button and the 2 buttons on the right side it just normally starts up..also how would i upgrade to a 2.x rom..or is there any way to downgrade back to the stock radio rom? also my phone is unlocked
thanks
keith
edit:
could i downlod the RUU_Wizard_225111_22511102_022511_CWS_WWE_Ship.exe rom and flash that onto my phone and have it work...still cant figure out how to get the bootloader screen to come up

yes after doing some more reading i realized i had to hold down the camera button and the start button until the bootloader came up..then i just pluged it in and ran the radio rom of 1.x and it worked yea!! mbe later i will try to upgrade the rom lol

CID unlock it while it is still working with your current ROM
IPL:1.08
SPL:1.08
OS:1.8.11.1
Then stick Molskis G3 ROM on it and you will be sorted.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=274316
for more info.

woudl i be able to go to htc.com and upgrade do the rom upgrade there without havin to cid unlock?

Yes, you can upgrade a Cing 8125 with the officially released Rom (as posted on HTC's Website) without CID unlocking your device.

i do not need to upgrade the IPL/SPL first since i have 1.08?

keith1569 said:
i do not need to upgrade the IPL/SPL first since i have 1.08?
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Official Rom Updates include the IPL/SPL. If you download and flash the Cingular 2.25 Rom you will have IPL/SPL 2.25 after the flash.

is that good or would i want to cid unlock my phone first?

keith1569 said:
is that good or would i want to cid unlock my phone first?
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Keith,
If you plan to install cooked Roms then you should CID unlock your phone. Technically CID Unlocking voids your warranty (though I had no problems getting warranty exchange on two previous phones that were CID unlocked).
The main reason to CID Unlock is that you can then install most (generally all) Roms that exist for your device. The only exception would be a G4 only Rom (which has the G4 IPL/SPL only) as your phone is a G3.
If you don't CID unlock then you can't install non-cingular Roms that include IPL/SPL so basically you would have to cook your own Rom if T-Mobile released an OS update that you wanted to use.
I would suggest you do some more reading before you CID unlock or flash anything else to your device.

ok bro thanks for the detailed explanation. I will.def do a lot more reading before I flash my phone or cid unlock it..this is a great forum full of useful information

keith1569 said:
yes after doing some more reading i realized i had to hold down the camera button and the start button until the bootloader came up..then i just pluged it in and ran the radio rom of 1.x and it worked yea!! mbe later i will try to upgrade the rom lol
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Where did you get the radio rom from ????? Do you have a link ????

just type in 2.47 radio rom in a search

keith1569 said:
just type in 2.47 radio rom in a search
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Ok i'll search for it thought maybe you had a direct link lready ....

Do I need to CID unlock my wizard?

Hi
I am sorry to ask this stupid question, I know its been discussed a lot of times but please help me understand it.
I am using Dopod 838 with Mr. Clean ROM and this is how IPL/SPL look like in my device:
IPL 2.24
SPL 2.24
GSM 02.25.11
OS 2.24.10.1
Now I want to upgrade to Molski's AKU2.3 ROM at
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=282498
These are my questions:
- Do I really need to CID unlock dopod 838 to install it? Last time when I flashed Mr. Clean ROM, I didnot really do CID unlock, why do I need it now?
- what happens if I go ahead and install this ROM without CID unlocking my device?
greatly Appreciate your help.

if you know it has been discussed before why not search for the answer, either here or google it. i'm a newb as well i don't know everything so i can't help but the search feature is your friend. or you can be like some of the other newbs and just try it and possibly brick your phone your call

sasa123 said:
Hi
I am sorry to ask this stupid question, I know its been discussed a lot of times but please help me understand it.
I am using Dopod 838 with Mr. Clean ROM and this is how IPL/SPL look like in my device:
IPL 2.24
SPL 2.24
GSM 02.25.11
OS 2.24.10.1
Now I want to upgrade to Molski's AKU2.3 ROM at
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=282498
These are my questions:
- Do I really need to CID unlock dopod 838 to install it? Last time when I flashed Mr. Clean ROM, I didnot really do CID unlock, why do I need it now?
- what happens if I go ahead and install this ROM without CID unlocking my device?
greatly Appreciate your help.
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Answers: 1)Yes 2)you probably end up with a brick--and not the kind you can build with but the kind that breaks a window well when you throw it.
--M

^^^ hahahah LOL

demontefixo said:
Answers: 1)Yes 2)you probably end up with a brick--and not the kind you can build with but the kind that breaks a window well when you throw it.
--M
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LOL
Thanks for the reply. ok, so I need to CID unlock. But I still wonder, why I did not need to CID unlock it when I flashed Mr. Clean rom.
And in Faria's CID unlock instructions, I have a doubt. Once I downgrade ROM to 1.x and unlock, do I flash Mr. Clean ROM first and then to Molski's ROM? or I can directly flash to Molski's after downgradin to 1.x ROM.

Simple answer is that Mr Clean's ROM does not contain the bootloader that is the IPL/SPL bit ok.
Riptos

riptos said:
Simple answer is that Mr Clean's ROM does not contain the bootloader that is the IPL/SPL bit ok.
Riptos
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I think it does contain because it changes the IPL/SPL after upgrade and including start up screen

If you are CID locked you WILL NOT be able to flash any other ROM other than your vendor supplied ROMs UNLESS it does not contain the bootloader (IPL/SPL).
Riptos

Mr. Cleans does the CID unlocking bit for you if i am not mistaken...
But just to be sure, just do another round of CID unlocking procedure to make sure it's really unlocked...
Dr. Puttingtam's instructions seems to work fine with anyone's who did it correctly.
Molski's ROM do contain IPL/SPL, but they are for G3 Wizards only...To be sure that you had the correct bootloaders, try flashing to the last T-Mobile US ROM (the 2.26 version), set Active Sync to guest mode and then flash Molski's ROM...
Hope it goes fine with you

vseehua said:
Mr. Cleans does the CID unlocking bit for you if i am not mistaken...
But just to be sure, just do another round of CID unlocking procedure to make sure it's really unlocked...
Dr. Puttingtam's instructions seems to work fine with anyone's who did it correctly.
Molski's ROM do contain IPL/SPL, but they are for G3 Wizards only...To be sure that you had the correct bootloaders, try flashing to the last T-Mobile US ROM (the 2.26 version), set Active Sync to guest mode and then flash Molski's ROM...
Hope it goes fine with you
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Thanks vseehua. I guess I am clear now. Will try it this weekend and will let you know how it goes. Thanks again to all for your comments and suggestions. I hope I dont brink it

CID Unlocking question...

Hi,
I have a dutch HTC wizard/qtek 9100, with the AKU 2 NLD ROM.
I tried CID unlocking but noticed that didn't work with AKU 2,
Is it possible my phone isn't cid-locked? Is there a quick way to check?
How can I downgrade to an older rom version and what file should I use,
I tried this one: "RUU_Prodigy_1030710_110_10410_Qtek_NLD_Ship.exe"
but after restarting my wizard and loading the bootloader the update program gave an error claiming that it can only UPgrade to newer versions...
I suppose I cant use the wwe version or can I?
well, thanx in advance,
Bonusbartus

As written before, u need AKU 1 to CID unlock your phone..the only way to be sure is to unlock again. Use buttons rom.. downgrade to that... unlock the phone.. install the rom again so the IPL and SPL are the same..then you can switch to whatever rom you want. How ever, you havent shown what type of Wizard you have whether its a G3 or a G4..the above method is what i used for my G3 Wizard

I have a g3 wizard,
so I can use that rom, I don't need a dutch version or something else?

Bonusbartus said:
Hi,
I have a dutch HTC wizard/qtek 9100, with the AKU 2 NLD ROM.
I tried CID unlocking but noticed that didn't work with AKU 2,
Is it possible my phone isn't cid-locked? Is there a quick way to check?
How can I downgrade to an older rom version and what file should I use,
I tried this one: "RUU_Prodigy_1030710_110_10410_Qtek_NLD_Ship.exe"
but after restarting my wizard and loading the bootloader the update program gave an error claiming that it can only UPgrade to newer versions...
I suppose I cant use the wwe version or can I?
well, thanx in advance,
Bonusbartus
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1. Thank-you for posting in a new thread and not in a ROM release thread.
2. Do you have a G3 or G4 (what is your IPL/SPL?)
2a. If you have a G3 read the Sticky post The Definitive Guide to Unlocking & Rom Upgrading G3 Wizards.
2b. If you have a G4 log onto the IMEI pay site (links all over the place) and pay to get your phone unlocked.
3. IF you have a G3 rom you must downgrade to CID unlock. It isn't possible to CID unlock from AKU2 or higher (read the sticky, it tells you what you need to do)
4. The best thing to do if you are unsure is to just repeat the unlock procedure. It won't hurt a thing if you are already unlocked, but will unlock you if you are locked.
5. Don't do anything flash related until you know for sure, beyond a doubt which version of Wizard you have (G3 or G4) If you have a G4 and use G3 procedures you WILL most likely ruin your device.
6. You won't get this error if you follow the steps in the correct order from the upgrade guide.
7. Good Luck

Bonusbartus said:
I have a g3 wizard,
so I can use that rom, I don't need a dutch version or something else?
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With your G3 just follow the steps, in order, from the sticky and you should be able to end with whatever ROM you choose. Some of the steps may not make sense but, they are necessary and prevent common issues if followed correctly.

Well, I do have a G3 so I can follow the tutorial,
ipl and spl are 2.18,
only question left, CAN I downgrade to the wwe rom in the tutorial? that's what I wanna know, because I now have a nld rom, can I flash to the wwe rom in the tutorial without CID-unlocking?
well I think I just try
thanx
oh btw, any recommendations on which rom to flash to after unlocking? and I saw something about radio only roms and page-pools what would u recommend there?

Listen, im sorry but i need help

Hey, ive been reading for a while but i still dont know exactly what to do to upgrade my tmobile mda. im pretty sure its the vario one. and it's image version is 1.8.10.104. its ipl and spl are both 1.08 so i think that means itsa g3 chip. I tried downloading a different rom but it just didnt work.
I just want the newest version. I have bluetooth stereo headphones and i would love to use them with this phone. Any help with be much aprreciated

jawnsixteen said:
Hey, ive been reading for a while but i still dont know exactly what to do to upgrade my tmobile mda. im pretty sure its the vario one. and it's image version is 1.8.10.104. its ipl and spl are both 1.08 so i think that means itsa g3 chip. I tried downloading a different rom but it just didnt work.
I just want the newest version. I have bluetooth stereo headphones and i would love to use them with this phone. Any help with be much aprreciated
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read the Sticky for the definitive guide to CID unlocking and upgrading G3 wizards.
If you follow every step in that tutorial you will:
a. have a CID unlocked wizard capable of being flashed with any wizard rom, custom or otherwise
b. you will KNOW that you device is CID unlocked because you did it yourself
c. ROM's will actually flash because your CID is unlocked.
NOTE: you currently have a 1.08 bootloader. You cannot flash a 2.xx custom rom until you upgrade your bootloader to 2.xx. The easiest way of doing this is flashing the much promoted T-Mobile 2.26 rom. Of course if you follow all the steps in the unlocking tutorial you will end up with IPL/SPL 2.26 and be CID unlocked.

ok, thank you
it says that it voids the warrenty
But i thought it was a made-by-tmobile download?
And can't i just reboot it to the original version i have right now if there are any problems or anything? Will the notice? is it possible?

jawnsixteen said:
ok, thank you
it says that it voids the warrenty
But i thought it was a made-by-tmobile download?
And can't i just reboot it to the original version i have right now if there are any problems or anything? Will the notice? is it possible?
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If you want WM6 you will be voiding your warranty as you won't be able to flash it unless you are CID unlocked.
There currently is not and most likely NEVER will be an official WM6 carrier rom for the Wizard.
If all you want is the latest carrier rom from your carrier then all you have to do is go to their website and download it and follow the instructions. You won't have to worry about CID or warranty voiding.
As for them noticing, maybe, maybe not. It really depends on who you talk to. If you stay with roms only made and released from your carrier you won't have anything to worry about as you can flash them without doing anything that will void your warranty.