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New Cing 8125: ipl 2.25 / spl 2.25 - which downgrade works?

The desire is to CID unlock the 8125 so the phone can be Summiter-ized. This was new-in-the-box from Cingular:
ipl 2.25
spl 2.25
GSM 02.25.11
OS 2.25.11.1
I saw faria's post http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=47848 but it states this won't work above 2.21.
I believe I can downgrade to the 1.08 original stock image posted in the FTP area, but I'm not certain this will work. I read where someone tried downgrading and the spl remain 2.x and things didn't work out so well. This is where I read it: http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=50768&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=75
The quote directly above is from the lokiwiz0.3 thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=50768 - but no one's actually confirmed it will unlock Cingular's latest ROM. Folks there just mention up to about 2.21 or so and the thread shifted to talk about the G4 chip and it's challenges.
Has anyone with a new Cingular phone tried lokiwiz0.3? Or how about CID unlocking anything higher than a 2.21 ROM? I'd just try this myself, but I'm stepping a buddy through this remotely. I can carry him all the way with URLs, cool cabs, and tweaks, all I need help with is something I haven't personally had to face - I don't wish to brick his phone.
Thanks for any testimonials!

Is it G3 or G4 phone? If it's a G4 phone then you can not downgrade to 1.x Rom as they don't include G4 bootloader.

kyphur said:
Is it G3 or G4 phone? If it's a G4 phone then you can not downgrade to 1.x Rom as they don't include G4 bootloader.
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It's G3; there's no trailing decimalization on the ipl / spl.

I have the same ipl/spl, and the unlock tool did not work for me, i would also like to know if its possible to downgrade this rom...

Give it a try.
I think you might need to replace one file, "RUUGetInfo.exe".
Try this:
Download the Cingular 1.8 Rom.
Rename it from *.exe to *.rar
Open the rar and extract the files into an empty folder.
Replace the "RUUGetInfo.exe" file with the attached one.
Run RomUpdateUtility.exe
If everything worked it will think you phone has ver 1.2 Rom so it will allow the 1.8 upgrade.
As always, try at your own risk...

Is this the rom i should be using? ftp://xda:[email protected]__RUU_Wizard_1050412_WWE_101_11210_WWE.exe
Im having problems finding the original Cingular 1.8 rom anywhere...

virtualsandwich said:
Is this the rom i should be using? ftp://xda:[email protected]__RUU_Wizard_1050412_WWE_101_11210_WWE.exe
Im having problems finding the original Cingular 1.8 rom anywhere...
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No.. Not CID unlocked, use the Cingular 1.8:
ftp://xda:[email protected]/Wizard/Roms/Cingular/Cingular_RUU_1.8.11.1.WWE.ship.exe
before downgrading to a 1.x rom be sure your IPL/SPL version DOES NOT END WITH .0001

kyphur said:
virtualsandwich said:
Is this the rom i should be using? ftp://xda:[email protected]__RUU_Wizard_1050412_WWE_101_11210_WWE.exe
Im having problems finding the original Cingular 1.8 rom anywhere...
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No.. Not CID unlocked, use the Cingular 1.8:
ftp://xda:[email protected]/Wizard/Roms/Cingular/Cingular_RUU_1.8.11.1.WWE.ship.exe
before downgrading to a 1.x rom be sure your IPL/SPL version DOES NOT END WITH .0001
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hi friend...
did you manage to unlocke the pda?

faria said:
hi friend...
did you manage to unlocke the pda?
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If you are asking me, mine has always been CID unlocked, just trying to help the new guys a bit...

kyphur said:
faria said:
hi friend...
did you manage to unlocke the pda?
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If you are asking me, mine has always been CID unlocked, just trying to help the new guys a bit...
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haa.. tough it was you

Alright i got it unlocked without replacing RUUGetInfo.exe, i downloaded the 1.8 rom, the phone took it without problem, then Lokiwiz worked like a charm after downgrading the rom. THANKS!

virtualsandwich said:
Alright i got it unlocked without replacing RUUGetInfo.exe, i downloaded the 1.8 rom, the phone took it without problem, then Lokiwiz worked like a charm after downgrading the rom. THANKS!
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So just to be clear, you had a brand new store bought or telesales Cingular 8125 CID locked with ipl / spl 2.25 and you simply re-flashed it with the stock Cingular 1.08 ROM - and it worked?
If you haven't re-flashed already, would you mind sharing the ipl / spl (and other) versions?

100Tbps said:
virtualsandwich said:
Alright i got it unlocked without replacing RUUGetInfo.exe, i downloaded the 1.8 rom, the phone took it without problem, then Lokiwiz worked like a charm after downgrading the rom. THANKS!
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So just to be clear, you had a brand new store bought or telesales Cingular 8125 CID locked with ipl / spl 2.25 and you simply re-flashed it with the stock Cingular 1.08 ROM - and it worked?
If you haven't re-flashed already, would you mind sharing the ipl / spl (and other) versions?
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humm ....yes... i would like to know that to...

Latest G3 Cingular ROM update worked
It works for me too. I just ran lockwiz3.0a to unlock SIM, than downgraded to ver 1.8. Then run lockwiz 2.0b to unlock CID and then install latest custom AKU3.0 ROM. Thanks everyone contributed to that forum.

Work for me. Here's what i did to my new (warranty exchange) 8125 with IPL/SPL 2.25
- unlock SIM lock with Lokiwiz03a
- downgrade to 1.08 with Cingular_RUU_1.8.11.1.WWE.ship.exe
- it now has IPL 1.08 and SPL 2.25
- unlock CID with Lokiwiz02b
- upgrade to PDAMobiz AKU2.3 v120 (the best ROM i've tried so far)
I believe you could skip SIM unlock with Lokiwiz03a and unlock both SIM and CID with Lokiwiz02b after downgrade to IPL1.08/SPL2.25.
dont know why other people in Lokiwiz03a thread said not to do unlock if IPL and SPL are not the same and will brick the phone. may be he had G4 chip.

kanate said:
dont know why other people in Lokiwiz03a thread said not to do unlock if IPL and SPL are not the same and will brick the phone. may be he had G4 chip.
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G4 phone can't downgrade at all. 1.x Roms do not have G4 Bootloaders.
A few users have had problems when their IPL/SPL versions don't match. So there is the possibility that you will brick your phone.
Did you bother going into the OS on the phone at all after the downgrade to unlock? or did you just connect it to USB and run lokiwiz?

kyphur said:
kanate said:
dont know why other people in Lokiwiz03a thread said not to do unlock if IPL and SPL are not the same and will brick the phone. may be he had G4 chip.
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G4 phone can't downgrade at all. 1.x Roms do not have G4 Bootloaders.
A few users have had problems when their IPL/SPL versions don't match. So there is the possibility that you will brick your phone.
Did you bother going into the OS on the phone at all after the downgrade to unlock? or did you just connect it to USB and run lokiwiz?
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Sure thing, you need to sync and go into the OS to install EnableRapi.cab in order to use Lokiwiz02b anyway.
After it's downgraded to IPL1.08/SPL2.25, I let the phone customized itself with all those cingular things and reboot again and install EnableRapi.cab and run Lokiwiz02b to unlock the CID

I have the IPL/SPL 2.25 version of the 8125 ROM.
For some reason, after unlocking with lokiwiz03a, downloading and unpacking etc the 1.8 ROM, i run it and get an ERROR 202: Connection, that it doesn't find my phone
The phone IS connected, synched etc etc. Could this be a problem because I'm running windows vista?
hmm.
edit: with windows xp, I can begin the flash (my 8125 goes to the tri-color, displays IPL and SPL of 2.25, but then the program throws an ERROR 260: UPDATE ERROR, then tells me the recovery steps (it always jsut boots to WINCE after this.)
Anyone know whats up?

Quote:
"Work for me. Here's what i did to my new (warranty exchange) 8125 with IPL/SPL 2.25"
key words being warranty exchange?
or will this work on a brand new one?
just thought I'd ask
and to Clutch: how's the phone now? How exactly does one know of the Ipl/Spl #'s?

I believe as long as it's G3 chip (IPL & SPL don't end with 0001), it should work.

Confused about ROM install

Just after I got my 8125 I upgraded the ROM to 2.25. I didn't unlock anything. Its running fine. Now I'm interested to try a different ROM. I understand I will need to CID unlock my device. Here is where I'm confused, if it is possible or not after upgrading to 2.25? Can I follow the steps to downgrade my ROM and unlock the CID?
I have searched and been reading alot but I'm still a bit confused, so please be gentle as I ask for some guidance. I have experience modifying Motorola phones, but am new to PocketPC. Any help is appreciated.

Good if you can provide info on how you upgraded your unit (e.g. with the providers official ROM or with the software and ROMS in this forum, etc)
And how you intended to down grade your ROM? You also mentioned the 'steps' to follow, of which steps are you refering to?
And, why do you want to have your phone CID unlocked? CID lock will not bug most people unless they are going for a ROM flashing. CID lock is different from `phone lock` or `SIM lock`.
Just incase you are wonder, what is CID, ... don't ask me. I have no idea at all Seriously.

I upgraded a stock 8125 (G3) to the Cingular 2.25 official ROM. I would like to install a summiter or mr. clean custom ROM. Searching through the messages here I'm unable to determine for certain if I'm able to CID unlock from 2.25 on my own (for free), but I get the impression I cannot. I just want to know for sure before attempting anything further.
I won't need step-by-step instruction...just need to know what my options are at this point.
Last nite I tried to install the summiter ROM without the bootloader. And the install went fine and completed 100% without error. But after the reboot I found the flash didn't hold, it was basically like a hard reset.

First download and install the Cingular 1.8 Rom
If that works fine then you should be able to CID unlock.
If not then try downloading and installing the "Button 1.05" Rom.
If either of these dowgrades worked for you, searck for LokiWiz (use ver 0.2 for CID unlock) and follwo the instructions.
Next if you want to SIM Unlock find LokWiz MSL 0.3 as it does a better SIM unlock than the older LokiWiz. Again follow the instructions.
Now you should be good..

Sorry if I wasn't clear, but its the downgrading I am concerned about. I'm not certain if it is possible to downgrade (including bootloader) from 2.25 without the device being CID unlocked..?

Stinkfist said:
Sorry if I wasn't clear, but its the downgrading I am concerned about. I'm not certain if it is possible to downgrade (including bootloader) from 2.25 without the device being CID unlocked..?
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Having a G3 device you can downgrade.
You must downgrade to CID unlock unless you want to pay imei-check $40.00

kyphur said:
Having a G3 device you can downgrade.
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Perfect...I will try it.
You must downgrade to CID unlock unless you want to pay imei-check $40.00
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Yeah, that much I do understand. I definately want to avoid paying to unlock.
Thanks for your help! I'll let you know how it goes.

Success! SIM/CID unlocked.
IPL 2.24
SPL 2.24
GSM 02.25.11
OS 2.24.10.1
Thanks kyphur, for taking a moment to point a noob down the right path.

IPL/SPL 2.21 vs. IPL/SPL 2.26

Hi to everyone,
Does anybody know the differences between IPL/SPL 2.21 and 2.26?
As I read in the Wiki section IPL/SPL are the bootloaders of the phone, like the BIOS of our CPU's nada I dont want to mess with that!
Why I'm asking this?...
My PPC is an O2 XDA MiniS AKU2 IPL/SPL 2.21 and want to install Faria's ROM.
I will have to CID-UNLOCK first.
There are 2 threads of cid unlocking:
1) One for AKU2 PPC (call from here THREAD 1)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=263116
2) and other for those who has older rom (call from here THREAD 2).
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=285435
I was going to follow the steps that are include in thread 1 wich recommends to downgrade your rom, cid unlock and then install your manufacturer ROM (mine has IPL/SPL 2.21).
But reading thread 2 I found that is recommendable to have IPL/SPL 2.26 to run cooked ROM's just like Faria's.
The author recommends to install T-Mobile ROM to have strong IPL/SPL 2.26.
Here comes my doubts:
1) Is really necessary upgrading from IPL/SPL 2.21 to 2.26?
2) Will T-Mobile ROM gonna work in my O2 XDA MiniS or is going to screw my pda?
The idea is to get IPL/SPL 2.26 and then flash Faria's ROM.
Sorry if it's a double post, but I really couldnt find the answer.
Thanks in advance,
Paulo

polaco1977 said:
Here comes my doubts:
1) Is really necessary upgrading from IPL/SPL 2.21 to 2.26?
2) Will T-Mobile ROM gonna work in my O2 XDA MiniS or is going to screw my pda?
Thanks in advance,
Paulo
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1) not really. But you DO need to flash A carrier rom after downgrading to 1.x to unlock. The reason for this is you need to get your phone back up to AKU2 or higher. The T-Mobile rom is the recommended rom as it has the latest version of the bootloaders.
2) if you CID unlock your phone it will. The whole point of CID unlocking is so that we can flash roms from sources other than our own carriers. Now flashing another carrier's rom or a custom rom you WILL have to set up your GPRS and MMS settings again, they are most definitely different than your carrier's by default, and most custom roms don't include this information as it is easy enough to get from your own provider and many people across many different providers use the roms. Faria has included as many as he has the files for in his rom.

Zzan said:
1) not really. But you DO need to flash A carrier rom after downgrading to 1.x to unlock. The reason for this is you need to get your phone back up to AKU2 or higher. The T-Mobile rom is the recommended rom as it has the latest version of the bootloaders..
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>> First, thanks for your faster reply.
What I want to do is this:
a) Downgrade the ROM to cid-unlock my device
b) Flash with T-Mobile ROM to get IPL/SPL 2.26 or O2 Rom with IPL/SPL 2.21. (please read question #2)
c) Flash Cingular 2.25 radio (best of all in my opinion)
d) Flash with Faria's Rom
2) if you CID unlock your phone it will.
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>> It will work (at least boot) or it will screw it if I flash with the T-Mobile ROM?
The whole point of CID unlocking is so that we can flash roms from sources other than our own carriers. Now flashing another carrier's rom or a custom rom you WILL have to set up your GPRS and MMS settings again, they are most definitely different than your carrier's by default, and most custom roms don't include this information as it is easy enough to get from your own provider and many people across many different providers use the roms. Faria has included as many as he has the files for in his rom.
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>> I get the point of cid unlock my pda. I dont worry about those configuration because in Argentina (where I live) that services are too expensive to use.
Thanks for your help!
Paulo

polaco1977 said:
>> First, thanks for your faster reply.
What I want to do is this:
a) Downgrade the ROM to cid-unlock my device
b) Flash with T-Mobile ROM to get IPL/SPL 2.26 or O2 Rom with IPL/SPL 2.21. (please read question #2)
c) Flash Cingular 2.25 radio (best of all in my opinion)
d) Flash with Faria's Rom
>> It will work (at least boot) or it will screw it if I flash with the T-Mobile ROM?
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I have a mini s and I used the Tmobile rom to get my IPL/SPL up to 2.26 with no problems. I figure there must be some good code behind the version numbers so why not upgrade? In my opinion since it was recomended by the guys in the know why not go for it.
I like the new 2.61 radio.

polaco1977 said:
>> First, thanks for your faster reply.
What I want to do is this:
a) Downgrade the ROM to cid-unlock my device
b) Flash with T-Mobile ROM to get IPL/SPL 2.26 or O2 Rom with IPL/SPL 2.21. (please read question #2)
c) Flash Cingular 2.25 radio (best of all in my opinion)
d) Flash with Faria's Rom
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a) good -- Just follow all the steps and you will be successful (make sure your phone is a G3 if you aren't using a pay to unlock website)
b) , c) you only need to flash one of these. Once you are unlocked it doesn't matter which one, they will all get you to a version that you can flash Faria's rom from. Most people recommend the T-Mobile rom as it has the latest bootloaders and is a good base to build from
c) You can do this at any time after you have successfully flashed a carrier rom.
polaco1977 said:
>> It will work (at least boot) or it will screw it if I flash with the T-Mobile ROM?
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If you unlocked your phone properly with the method for your device type (G3 or G4) it will not hurt your phone to flash any ROM that is compatible with your phone version (G3's can flash most anything without issue, G4's can only flash certain ROMs)
polaco1977 said:
>> I get the point of cid unlock my pda. I dont worry about those configuration because in Argentina (where I live) that services are too expensive to use.
Thanks for your help!
Paulo
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You're welcome

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computer9cowboy said:
I have a mini s and I used the Tmobile rom to get my IPL/SPL up to 2.26 with no problems. I figure there must be some good code behind the version numbers so why not upgrade? In my opinion since it was recomended by the guys in the know why not go for it.
I like the new 2.61 radio.
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I couldnt wait for the answers (tipically me) tooked the risk and I flashed with T-mobile ROM with IPL/SPL v2.26.
It's working fine at this moment.
Changing subject, Im using Cingular 2.25.11 radio and works fine too.
Can you tell me why you like 2.61 radio?
Wich radio were you using before the upgrade?
Paulo

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computer9cowboy said:
I have a mini s and I used the Tmobile rom to get my IPL/SPL up to 2.26 with no problems. I figure there must be some good code behind the version numbers so why not upgrade? In my opinion since it was recomended by the guys in the know why not go for it.
I like the new 2.61 radio.
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I couldnt wait for the answers (tipically me) tooked the risk and I flashed with T-mobile ROM with IPL/SPL v2.26.
It's working fine at this moment.
Changing subject, Im using Cingular 2.25.11 radio and works fine too.
Can you tell me why you like 2.61 radio?
Wich radio were you using before the upgrade?
Paulo

polaco1977 said:
I couldnt wait for the answers (tipically me) tooked the risk and I flashed with T-mobile ROM with IPL/SPL v2.26.
It's working fine at this moment.
Changing subject, Im using Cingular 2.25.11 radio and works fine too.
Can you tell me why you like 2.61 radio?
Wich radio were you using before the upgrade?
Paulo
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I was using 2.25.11
2.61 shows better performance (speed) downloading and uploading over EDGE.
I live in rural Vermont USA and I can get 140kbps / 40kbps at my house. It used to be 110/30

computer9cowboy said:
I was using 2.25.11
2.61 shows better performance (speed) downloading and uploading over EDGE.
I live in rural Vermont USA and I can get 140kbps / 40kbps at my house. It used to be 110/30
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Where did you find it? I have downloaded it from the thread RADIO ROM 2.61.11
It´s been hosting by Rapishare and the file calls REAL_RADIO_2.61.11
Do you have another link where can I download it?
Can you send me a pm?
Paulo

CID Unlock not working

Hi All,
I have not been able to unlock my Cingular 8125... to upgrade the thing to WM6.
Yip ran the lockwiz a few times... it did give me some write error though.
...
CopyFileToTFFS(unlocked.bin:0, 0, 00010000)
ERROR: ITWriteDisk - An internal error occurred.
result=80072746
Your phone is now unlocked...
My phone is a G3. I can use different sims. But I cannot CID unlock? I have used lokiwiz and awizard... what else can I do to CID unlock?
I am currently downloading your rom.I have not tried any roms as I am quite new to this. I have flashed my 8125 to - IPL1.01 SPL 3.08 gsm 01.12.10 os1.5.4.2.
I have also tried several time to downgrade to button... no joy, the spl wont go. I have upgraded to both ipl/spl3.08 and still cannot upgrade the rom.
Thanks,
SanMan

Did you read the sticky with the guide to an easy and safe unlocking by Dr. Puttingham? If you did then you should have read with more attention.
You've messed up your phone's bootloader. It's not supposed to have such different values. If you didn't unlock it before moving to SPL 3.08 you won't be doing it now as it must be 1.xx for lokiwiz and other tools to work.
Go READ threads of others in same situation as you and be sure to have a FULL battery before starting the flashing process.

great thanks for that... so since my spl and ipl are not the same I need to try to downgrade my spl to the same version of button?
Bud I have read and read and read... and now I have only posted. I see that people in my predicament look for a rom called 1.18 from cingular and apparantly that fixes the problem so I can downgrade and re-run my cid unlock. I will read through all of Dr Putting threads where I have also posted to try to resolve this. Thanks for you constructive assistance.
Kind regards,
SanMan
We were all at this point in our lives sometime.

Need rom for downgrade
hi SandfordE,
Could you please send me the link or the file that downgrade the rom to 1.xx. i have tried to looking for so much time but sill can't not. all link is dead.
please, thank you for your help

the blind leading the blind.
well the only one I have been able to get is this one, from Dr putting
http://rapidshare.com/files/18212239/CUSTOM__RUU_Wizard_1050412_WWE_101_11210_WWE.exe.html
I cannot find the 1.xx cingular rom which apparantly you need if you dont follow dr p, goodies properly.
Apparantly if you goto http://www.htcwizardweb.net/node/161 and register there is a pathetically slow download link for 1.8x... which should be able to change the ipl and spl to the same thing.
hope this helps you. Please dont run or upgrade anything on ure phone till both the ipl and spl are 1.x that where I made my mistake.
Being a techie I guess thats our problem always wanting to upgrade with out rtfm.
hth
San

Thank SanFordE
Downloading, then downgrade to ipl/spl 1.xx, then cidunlock then uprade to ipl/spl 2.xx then update to wm6.
Am i correct??
thanks again for your help

hi magic
yip thats exactly what I am doing, hopefully it will work, please could you post ure results. Pity bandwidth here in South Africa is so terrible else i would be able to download at home.
Thanks man,
Sanford

hi SanfordE,
why my ipl is 1.xx but the spl still 2.xx after flash sucessfully??
Thanks

Hi,
This worked for me, now i just need to flash the ipl/spl 2.xx then ready for wm6
Thanks

Maybe try to flash with button from dr p sticky... but remember before you can do anything else the like run lokiwiz, the ipl and spl need to be 1.xx
hope this helps.
s

SanfordE said:
Maybe try to flash with button from dr p sticky... but remember before you can do anything else the like run lokiwiz, the ipl and spl need to be 1.xx
hope this helps.
s
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wow, i'm impressed . You passed from asking for tutoring to giving good tips in no time. well done m8 . All you need now is to manage the successful downgrade.
Are you sure your phone is still locked? Check CID status with mtty.

Thanks for that tip
Got already will try this procedure again tonight... hopefully it works.

hi SanFordE,
now i'm on wm6. thank a lot for your support

Hi MagicEr,
How many times did you have to flash with 1.8.11
I have tried twice already and my spl is still 3.08...
Maybe downgrade to Wizard_Love 2.26? The rey the other way?
Any input is kewl...
no worries S

WM6 is lovely...
All fixed on WM6
Note to all good people, once you have flashed with 1.8.11 <-- this is only on a cingular 8125, even though the spl is 3.08, you can run your lokiwiz to CID unlock and then flash.
Many thanks to all the developers and contributors to this forum.
Sanford

SanfordE said:
All fixed on WM6
Note to all good people, once you have flashed with 1.8.11 <-- this is only on a cingular 8125, even though the spl is 3.08, you can run your lokiwiz to CID unlock and then flash.
Many thanks to all the developers and contributors to this forum.
Sanford
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hmm not sure if the SPL is really 3.08 although it shows that.
The CID block protection is applied by SPL so if lokiwiz worked it means that the SPL did downgrade
Glad you fixed it though.
cheers

IPL and SPL that don't match

I started a new thread so that people wouldn't have to read through my trials but long story short I have a G3 wizard and I'm trying to flash it. Followed all of the steps in the guide by vippie. I used the button rom to start with but mine was one of the many that stopped at 98% and gave me error 302 so I ended up using the XDA mini rom as the alternative that was suggested.
Now I've flashed my phone three times with the same rom to try and get the IPL and SPL the same but to no avail. The IPL and SPL are 1.05 and 2.25 respectively. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

hey i flashed my tmobile mda to a chinese rom too and then it changed spl to a diff version than the ipl and then i tried to flashed it with love rom and still it doesnt change the ipl and spl to the same version that i had before, then i removed the battery then my phone does not charge or turn on anymore, i have a g4 by the way, i m not sure if i bricked it or not

joco2560 said:
hey i flashed my tmobile mda to a chinese rom too and then it changed spl to a diff version than the ipl and then i tried to flashed it with love rom and still it doesnt change the ipl and spl to the same version that i had before, then i removed the battery then my phone does not charge or turn on anymore, i have a g4 by the way, i m not sure if i bricked it or not
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I think you may have been trying to offer your empathy for my particular situation but that's what we in the business call thread jacking. Start your own thread please. Thanks for the comments though.
I was thinking today I may give flashing the button rom another try. Any suggestions people?
And a bump for some professional help and good luck as well.

SharpieMarker said:
I think you may have been trying to offer your empathy for my particular situation but that's what we in the business call thread jacking. Start your own thread please. Thanks for the comments though.
I was thinking today I may give flashing the button rom another try. Any suggestions people?
And a bump for some professional help and good luck as well.
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wow, basically the same problem just trying to let u no that other ppl r having the same problem and i thought my problem would've helped in some ways...thx for trying to be nice at the end but ur not. sry i forgot to metion that:" hey, SharpieMarker im having the same problem that ur having..."in my previous post

joco2560 said:
wow, basically the same problem just trying to let u no that other ppl r having the same problem and i thought my problem would've helped in some ways...thx for trying to be nice at the end but ur not. sry i forgot to metion that:" hey, SharpieMarker im having the same problem that ur having..."in my previous post
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Well I apologize if I came of as a douche, I guess I didn't understand what you were saying exactly. I appreciate any support I can get with the issues I'm having so its good to know I'm not the only one. Thanks joco.

SharpieMarker said:
Now I've flashed my phone three times with the same rom to try and get the IPL and SPL the same but to no avail. The IPL and SPL are 1.05 and 2.25 respectively. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
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Surely you're not serious? oh Jesus, you are.
OK... SPL is separate from IPL, not only is it impossible to get them to be "the same version" it would also achieve nothing to actually do so either... so please, the procedure is very simple, you flash a patched SPL, you flash your crap on. Job Done... I thought there was already a patched SPL for G3... do I need to make one of those as well?!?

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Surely you're not serious? oh Jesus, you are.
OK... SPL is separate from IPL, not only is it impossible to get them to be "the same version" it would also achieve nothing to actually do so either... so please, the procedure is very simple, you flash a patched SPL, you flash your crap on. Job Done... I thought there was already a patched SPL for G3... do I need to make one of those as well?!?
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Well that seems logical however I was misinformed. SO I've flashed this Xda_mini rom, then what is the cause of the issues I was having getting a connection error when trying to CID unlock? Wizards have to be CID unlocked before flashing 2.X roms right?

What started as a simple, objective thread, has become quite confusing in a matter of a few posts.
joco2560 said:
wow, basically the same problem just trying to let u no that other ppl r having the same problem and i thought my problem would've helped in some ways...thx for trying to be nice at the end but ur not. sry i forgot to metion that:" hey, SharpieMarker im having the same problem that ur having..."in my previous post
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Well, in fact your problem ISN'T the same as SharpieMarker's because his phone is still alive...
I believe you tried to downgrade a G4 to 1.xx bootloader which only exist for G3. Once the battery came out your phone could never boot again. Say bye bye to it...
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Well that seems logical however I was misinformed. SO I've flashed this Xda_mini rom, then what is the cause of the issues I was having getting a connection error when trying to CID unlock? Wizards have to be CID unlocked before flashing 2.X roms right?
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A LOT of people are reporting failed downgrades which 'block' the SPL at 2.xx. Once there even after 30 flashes the SPL never lowers to 1.xx to allow CID unlocking.
No solution is known until now...
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Surely you're not serious? oh Jesus, you are.
OK... SPL is separate from IPL, not only is it impossible to get them to be "the same version" it would also achieve nothing to actually do so either... so please, the procedure is very simple, you flash a patched SPL, you flash your crap on. Job Done... I thought there was already a patched SPL for G3... do I need to make one of those as well?!?
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There isn't and i believe you should patch one...
cheers

mestrini said:
A LOT of people are reporting failed downgrades which 'block' the SPL at 2.xx. Once there even after 30 flashes the SPL never lowers to 1.xx to allow CID unlocking.
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So what is the solution or is it the patched SPL that Olipro is referring to?

The HardSPL (Olipro) is ONLY for use with G4. The flash program should keep you from flashing it to a G3 Wizard because their SPL code are not compatible.
SoftSPL also doesn't work for G3 wizard.
joco2560 should be produced a brick because as I know, no unofficial Chinese ROMs are equipped with G4 IPL and SPL.

Man if only these guys would have read the WIKI... There is a link in my signature to an outstanding tutorial for newbies. Just read it and you will feel enlightened. Everything will seem so simple and life's purpose will become evident... Just Kidding but seriously guys... Read the damn WIKI... I'm tired of reading about bricks.
NOTE:: THIS ENTIRE POST IS ONE GIANT LINK TO THE WIKI I'M TALKING ABOUT!!!
READ IT!!!

starkwong said:
The HardSPL (Olipro) is ONLY for use with G4. The flash program should keep you from flashing it to a G3 Wizard because their SPL code are not compatible.
SoftSPL also doesn't work for G3 wizard.
joco2560 should be produced a brick because as I know, no unofficial Chinese ROMs are equipped with G4 IPL and SPL.
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Alright, this is helpful and I was hoping there might be a few suggestions as to what to do at this point. Thanks guys for the comments.

dharvey4651 said:
Man if only these guys would have read the WIKI... There is a link in my signature to an outstanding tutorial for newbies. Just read it and you will feel enlightened. Everything will seem so simple and life's purpose will become evident... Just Kidding but seriously guys... Read the damn WIKI... I'm tired of reading about bricks.
NOTE:: THIS ENTIRE POST IS ONE GIANT LINK TO THE WIKI I'M TALKING ABOUT!!!
READ IT!!!
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Okay, firstly I have not bricked my device. I have read all of the guides and walkthroughs before attempting anything on my wizard. Unfortunately your guide that you have written, just like the other ones, has not answered my question or told me what I should do (unless I have missed it somewhere which is possible).

Okay, after some finagling with the lokiwiz application I managed to unlock and then cid unlock my phone however the IPL is still 1.05 and the SPL is 2.25. Is that accurate or should the SPL be lower now? Do I need to reflash?
Alright, after re-re-re-re-re-reading the instructions I think I understand the bit about IPL and SPL. I think. Feel free to clarify though.

If lokiwiz does not show any errors during unlocking (NOTE That lokiwiz always shows successful regardless it is actually unlocked or not, so the error message is the most important), then either try to flash Button's ROM again and you will get 1.05 IPL and SPL (That's my way), and others suggests to upgrade IPL and SPL directly to 3.08.

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If lokiwiz does not show any errors during unlocking (NOTE That lokiwiz always shows successful regardless it is actually unlocked or not, so the error message is the most important), then either try to flash Button's ROM again and you will get 1.05 IPL and SPL (That's my way), and others suggests to upgrade IPL and SPL directly to 3.08.
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There was no error message when I CID unlocked. It successfully unlocked both times (the first using the U command and after a restart using the C command). My phone restarted twice during the unlocking so I think it went just fine. So should I proceed with the flashing of the tmobile rom? After the unlocking I have an IPL of 1.05 and an SPL of 2.25.

You can always go back to Button's ROM, so it's OK to flash T-Mobile ROM.
However I still recommend to flash Button's ROM once more first.

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You can always go back to Button's ROM, so it's OK to flash T-Mobile ROM.
However I still recommend to flash Button's ROM once more first.
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Well I decided to flash the t-mobile rom and it went smooth. Everything works fine. So now I have an IPL and SPL of 2.26 so I can flash some of the more interesting roms right? Thanks for all the help and advice guys. Much appreciated.

SharpieMarker said:
Well I decided to flash the t-mobile rom and it went smooth. Everything works fine. So now I have an IPL and SPL of 2.26 so I can flash some of the more interesting roms right? Thanks for all the help and advice guys. Much appreciated.
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Yes you should now be CID unlocked and can flash any Rom you want as long as it does not contain an IPL/SPL.
And by the way, It does tell you in that WIKI exactly what you need to do to CID unlock your device. (The SPL will not downgrade to 1.05 unless you flash the button Rom again AFTER completing The Unlocking Process through lokiwiz. I wouldn't even reccomend flashing the button Rom again. It's pointless because Flashing the T-Mobile Rom is going to upgrade you IPL/SPL to a higher, matching pair and is going to give you a very strong, stable base rom to flash to a custom Rom From.

SharpieMarker said:
Well I decided to flash the t-mobile rom and it went smooth. Everything works fine. So now I have an IPL and SPL of 2.26 so I can flash some of the more interesting roms right? Thanks for all the help and advice guys. Much appreciated.
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I think you should check your CID status with WST before trying to flash a custom ROM. Lokiwiz doesn't check for errors and proceeds as if everything went ok even if it didn't.
For all we know your phone might be originally from T-Mobile and even CID locked would always accept an official ROM.