Hi to everyone,
Does anybody know the differences between IPL/SPL 2.21 and 2.26?
As I read in the Wiki section IPL/SPL are the bootloaders of the phone, like the BIOS of our CPU's nada I dont want to mess with that!
Why I'm asking this?...
My PPC is an O2 XDA MiniS AKU2 IPL/SPL 2.21 and want to install Faria's ROM.
I will have to CID-UNLOCK first.
There are 2 threads of cid unlocking:
1) One for AKU2 PPC (call from here THREAD 1)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=263116
2) and other for those who has older rom (call from here THREAD 2).
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=285435
I was going to follow the steps that are include in thread 1 wich recommends to downgrade your rom, cid unlock and then install your manufacturer ROM (mine has IPL/SPL 2.21).
But reading thread 2 I found that is recommendable to have IPL/SPL 2.26 to run cooked ROM's just like Faria's.
The author recommends to install T-Mobile ROM to have strong IPL/SPL 2.26.
Here comes my doubts:
1) Is really necessary upgrading from IPL/SPL 2.21 to 2.26?
2) Will T-Mobile ROM gonna work in my O2 XDA MiniS or is going to screw my pda?
The idea is to get IPL/SPL 2.26 and then flash Faria's ROM.
Sorry if it's a double post, but I really couldnt find the answer.
Thanks in advance,
Paulo
polaco1977 said:
Here comes my doubts:
1) Is really necessary upgrading from IPL/SPL 2.21 to 2.26?
2) Will T-Mobile ROM gonna work in my O2 XDA MiniS or is going to screw my pda?
Thanks in advance,
Paulo
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1) not really. But you DO need to flash A carrier rom after downgrading to 1.x to unlock. The reason for this is you need to get your phone back up to AKU2 or higher. The T-Mobile rom is the recommended rom as it has the latest version of the bootloaders.
2) if you CID unlock your phone it will. The whole point of CID unlocking is so that we can flash roms from sources other than our own carriers. Now flashing another carrier's rom or a custom rom you WILL have to set up your GPRS and MMS settings again, they are most definitely different than your carrier's by default, and most custom roms don't include this information as it is easy enough to get from your own provider and many people across many different providers use the roms. Faria has included as many as he has the files for in his rom.
Zzan said:
1) not really. But you DO need to flash A carrier rom after downgrading to 1.x to unlock. The reason for this is you need to get your phone back up to AKU2 or higher. The T-Mobile rom is the recommended rom as it has the latest version of the bootloaders..
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>> First, thanks for your faster reply.
What I want to do is this:
a) Downgrade the ROM to cid-unlock my device
b) Flash with T-Mobile ROM to get IPL/SPL 2.26 or O2 Rom with IPL/SPL 2.21. (please read question #2)
c) Flash Cingular 2.25 radio (best of all in my opinion)
d) Flash with Faria's Rom
2) if you CID unlock your phone it will.
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>> It will work (at least boot) or it will screw it if I flash with the T-Mobile ROM?
The whole point of CID unlocking is so that we can flash roms from sources other than our own carriers. Now flashing another carrier's rom or a custom rom you WILL have to set up your GPRS and MMS settings again, they are most definitely different than your carrier's by default, and most custom roms don't include this information as it is easy enough to get from your own provider and many people across many different providers use the roms. Faria has included as many as he has the files for in his rom.
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>> I get the point of cid unlock my pda. I dont worry about those configuration because in Argentina (where I live) that services are too expensive to use.
Thanks for your help!
Paulo
polaco1977 said:
>> First, thanks for your faster reply.
What I want to do is this:
a) Downgrade the ROM to cid-unlock my device
b) Flash with T-Mobile ROM to get IPL/SPL 2.26 or O2 Rom with IPL/SPL 2.21. (please read question #2)
c) Flash Cingular 2.25 radio (best of all in my opinion)
d) Flash with Faria's Rom
>> It will work (at least boot) or it will screw it if I flash with the T-Mobile ROM?
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I have a mini s and I used the Tmobile rom to get my IPL/SPL up to 2.26 with no problems. I figure there must be some good code behind the version numbers so why not upgrade? In my opinion since it was recomended by the guys in the know why not go for it.
I like the new 2.61 radio.
polaco1977 said:
>> First, thanks for your faster reply.
What I want to do is this:
a) Downgrade the ROM to cid-unlock my device
b) Flash with T-Mobile ROM to get IPL/SPL 2.26 or O2 Rom with IPL/SPL 2.21. (please read question #2)
c) Flash Cingular 2.25 radio (best of all in my opinion)
d) Flash with Faria's Rom
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a) good -- Just follow all the steps and you will be successful (make sure your phone is a G3 if you aren't using a pay to unlock website)
b) , c) you only need to flash one of these. Once you are unlocked it doesn't matter which one, they will all get you to a version that you can flash Faria's rom from. Most people recommend the T-Mobile rom as it has the latest bootloaders and is a good base to build from
c) You can do this at any time after you have successfully flashed a carrier rom.
polaco1977 said:
>> It will work (at least boot) or it will screw it if I flash with the T-Mobile ROM?
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If you unlocked your phone properly with the method for your device type (G3 or G4) it will not hurt your phone to flash any ROM that is compatible with your phone version (G3's can flash most anything without issue, G4's can only flash certain ROMs)
polaco1977 said:
>> I get the point of cid unlock my pda. I dont worry about those configuration because in Argentina (where I live) that services are too expensive to use.
Thanks for your help!
Paulo
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You're welcome
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computer9cowboy said:
I have a mini s and I used the Tmobile rom to get my IPL/SPL up to 2.26 with no problems. I figure there must be some good code behind the version numbers so why not upgrade? In my opinion since it was recomended by the guys in the know why not go for it.
I like the new 2.61 radio.
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I couldnt wait for the answers (tipically me) tooked the risk and I flashed with T-mobile ROM with IPL/SPL v2.26.
It's working fine at this moment.
Changing subject, Im using Cingular 2.25.11 radio and works fine too.
Can you tell me why you like 2.61 radio?
Wich radio were you using before the upgrade?
Paulo
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computer9cowboy said:
I have a mini s and I used the Tmobile rom to get my IPL/SPL up to 2.26 with no problems. I figure there must be some good code behind the version numbers so why not upgrade? In my opinion since it was recomended by the guys in the know why not go for it.
I like the new 2.61 radio.
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I couldnt wait for the answers (tipically me) tooked the risk and I flashed with T-mobile ROM with IPL/SPL v2.26.
It's working fine at this moment.
Changing subject, Im using Cingular 2.25.11 radio and works fine too.
Can you tell me why you like 2.61 radio?
Wich radio were you using before the upgrade?
Paulo
polaco1977 said:
I couldnt wait for the answers (tipically me) tooked the risk and I flashed with T-mobile ROM with IPL/SPL v2.26.
It's working fine at this moment.
Changing subject, Im using Cingular 2.25.11 radio and works fine too.
Can you tell me why you like 2.61 radio?
Wich radio were you using before the upgrade?
Paulo
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I was using 2.25.11
2.61 shows better performance (speed) downloading and uploading over EDGE.
I live in rural Vermont USA and I can get 140kbps / 40kbps at my house. It used to be 110/30
computer9cowboy said:
I was using 2.25.11
2.61 shows better performance (speed) downloading and uploading over EDGE.
I live in rural Vermont USA and I can get 140kbps / 40kbps at my house. It used to be 110/30
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Where did you find it? I have downloaded it from the thread RADIO ROM 2.61.11
It´s been hosting by Rapishare and the file calls REAL_RADIO_2.61.11
Do you have another link where can I download it?
Can you send me a pm?
Paulo
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The desire is to CID unlock the 8125 so the phone can be Summiter-ized. This was new-in-the-box from Cingular:
ipl 2.25
spl 2.25
GSM 02.25.11
OS 2.25.11.1
I saw faria's post http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=47848 but it states this won't work above 2.21.
I believe I can downgrade to the 1.08 original stock image posted in the FTP area, but I'm not certain this will work. I read where someone tried downgrading and the spl remain 2.x and things didn't work out so well. This is where I read it: http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=50768&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=75
The quote directly above is from the lokiwiz0.3 thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=50768 - but no one's actually confirmed it will unlock Cingular's latest ROM. Folks there just mention up to about 2.21 or so and the thread shifted to talk about the G4 chip and it's challenges.
Has anyone with a new Cingular phone tried lokiwiz0.3? Or how about CID unlocking anything higher than a 2.21 ROM? I'd just try this myself, but I'm stepping a buddy through this remotely. I can carry him all the way with URLs, cool cabs, and tweaks, all I need help with is something I haven't personally had to face - I don't wish to brick his phone.
Thanks for any testimonials!
Is it G3 or G4 phone? If it's a G4 phone then you can not downgrade to 1.x Rom as they don't include G4 bootloader.
kyphur said:
Is it G3 or G4 phone? If it's a G4 phone then you can not downgrade to 1.x Rom as they don't include G4 bootloader.
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It's G3; there's no trailing decimalization on the ipl / spl.
I have the same ipl/spl, and the unlock tool did not work for me, i would also like to know if its possible to downgrade this rom...
Give it a try.
I think you might need to replace one file, "RUUGetInfo.exe".
Try this:
Download the Cingular 1.8 Rom.
Rename it from *.exe to *.rar
Open the rar and extract the files into an empty folder.
Replace the "RUUGetInfo.exe" file with the attached one.
Run RomUpdateUtility.exe
If everything worked it will think you phone has ver 1.2 Rom so it will allow the 1.8 upgrade.
As always, try at your own risk...
Is this the rom i should be using? ftp://xda:[email protected]__RUU_Wizard_1050412_WWE_101_11210_WWE.exe
Im having problems finding the original Cingular 1.8 rom anywhere...
virtualsandwich said:
Is this the rom i should be using? ftp://xda:[email protected]__RUU_Wizard_1050412_WWE_101_11210_WWE.exe
Im having problems finding the original Cingular 1.8 rom anywhere...
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No.. Not CID unlocked, use the Cingular 1.8:
ftp://xda:[email protected]/Wizard/Roms/Cingular/Cingular_RUU_1.8.11.1.WWE.ship.exe
before downgrading to a 1.x rom be sure your IPL/SPL version DOES NOT END WITH .0001
kyphur said:
virtualsandwich said:
Is this the rom i should be using? ftp://xda:[email protected]__RUU_Wizard_1050412_WWE_101_11210_WWE.exe
Im having problems finding the original Cingular 1.8 rom anywhere...
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No.. Not CID unlocked, use the Cingular 1.8:
ftp://xda:[email protected]/Wizard/Roms/Cingular/Cingular_RUU_1.8.11.1.WWE.ship.exe
before downgrading to a 1.x rom be sure your IPL/SPL version DOES NOT END WITH .0001
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hi friend...
did you manage to unlocke the pda?
faria said:
hi friend...
did you manage to unlocke the pda?
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If you are asking me, mine has always been CID unlocked, just trying to help the new guys a bit...
kyphur said:
faria said:
hi friend...
did you manage to unlocke the pda?
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If you are asking me, mine has always been CID unlocked, just trying to help the new guys a bit...
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haa.. tough it was you
Alright i got it unlocked without replacing RUUGetInfo.exe, i downloaded the 1.8 rom, the phone took it without problem, then Lokiwiz worked like a charm after downgrading the rom. THANKS!
virtualsandwich said:
Alright i got it unlocked without replacing RUUGetInfo.exe, i downloaded the 1.8 rom, the phone took it without problem, then Lokiwiz worked like a charm after downgrading the rom. THANKS!
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So just to be clear, you had a brand new store bought or telesales Cingular 8125 CID locked with ipl / spl 2.25 and you simply re-flashed it with the stock Cingular 1.08 ROM - and it worked?
If you haven't re-flashed already, would you mind sharing the ipl / spl (and other) versions?
100Tbps said:
virtualsandwich said:
Alright i got it unlocked without replacing RUUGetInfo.exe, i downloaded the 1.8 rom, the phone took it without problem, then Lokiwiz worked like a charm after downgrading the rom. THANKS!
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So just to be clear, you had a brand new store bought or telesales Cingular 8125 CID locked with ipl / spl 2.25 and you simply re-flashed it with the stock Cingular 1.08 ROM - and it worked?
If you haven't re-flashed already, would you mind sharing the ipl / spl (and other) versions?
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humm ....yes... i would like to know that to...
Latest G3 Cingular ROM update worked
It works for me too. I just ran lockwiz3.0a to unlock SIM, than downgraded to ver 1.8. Then run lockwiz 2.0b to unlock CID and then install latest custom AKU3.0 ROM. Thanks everyone contributed to that forum.
Work for me. Here's what i did to my new (warranty exchange) 8125 with IPL/SPL 2.25
- unlock SIM lock with Lokiwiz03a
- downgrade to 1.08 with Cingular_RUU_1.8.11.1.WWE.ship.exe
- it now has IPL 1.08 and SPL 2.25
- unlock CID with Lokiwiz02b
- upgrade to PDAMobiz AKU2.3 v120 (the best ROM i've tried so far)
I believe you could skip SIM unlock with Lokiwiz03a and unlock both SIM and CID with Lokiwiz02b after downgrade to IPL1.08/SPL2.25.
dont know why other people in Lokiwiz03a thread said not to do unlock if IPL and SPL are not the same and will brick the phone. may be he had G4 chip.
kanate said:
dont know why other people in Lokiwiz03a thread said not to do unlock if IPL and SPL are not the same and will brick the phone. may be he had G4 chip.
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G4 phone can't downgrade at all. 1.x Roms do not have G4 Bootloaders.
A few users have had problems when their IPL/SPL versions don't match. So there is the possibility that you will brick your phone.
Did you bother going into the OS on the phone at all after the downgrade to unlock? or did you just connect it to USB and run lokiwiz?
kyphur said:
kanate said:
dont know why other people in Lokiwiz03a thread said not to do unlock if IPL and SPL are not the same and will brick the phone. may be he had G4 chip.
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G4 phone can't downgrade at all. 1.x Roms do not have G4 Bootloaders.
A few users have had problems when their IPL/SPL versions don't match. So there is the possibility that you will brick your phone.
Did you bother going into the OS on the phone at all after the downgrade to unlock? or did you just connect it to USB and run lokiwiz?
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Sure thing, you need to sync and go into the OS to install EnableRapi.cab in order to use Lokiwiz02b anyway.
After it's downgraded to IPL1.08/SPL2.25, I let the phone customized itself with all those cingular things and reboot again and install EnableRapi.cab and run Lokiwiz02b to unlock the CID
I have the IPL/SPL 2.25 version of the 8125 ROM.
For some reason, after unlocking with lokiwiz03a, downloading and unpacking etc the 1.8 ROM, i run it and get an ERROR 202: Connection, that it doesn't find my phone
The phone IS connected, synched etc etc. Could this be a problem because I'm running windows vista?
hmm.
edit: with windows xp, I can begin the flash (my 8125 goes to the tri-color, displays IPL and SPL of 2.25, but then the program throws an ERROR 260: UPDATE ERROR, then tells me the recovery steps (it always jsut boots to WINCE after this.)
Anyone know whats up?
Quote:
"Work for me. Here's what i did to my new (warranty exchange) 8125 with IPL/SPL 2.25"
key words being warranty exchange?
or will this work on a brand new one?
just thought I'd ask
and to Clutch: how's the phone now? How exactly does one know of the Ipl/Spl #'s?
I believe as long as it's G3 chip (IPL & SPL don't end with 0001), it should work.
Hi,
a few days ago i wrote on this forum that i had been able to install an italian ROM on a G4, CID-Locked Wizard. Since then, i've received several mails and PM from users asking me how i did. Instead of replying each one, i though it was better to write a tutorial and post it here for everyone to read/comment/correct it.
Here it is. Together with the tools you'll need to perform the update.
PS: in this tutorial i'm not explaining how to CID-UNlock a G4 or G3 (>= 2.21) phone. There is not yet a way to CID unlock these phones. I'm just describing how to circumvent the CID-lock problem by installing a ROM deprived of the IPL and SPL parts.
DISCLAIMER: THE PROCEDURE I’M GOING TO EXPLAIN DEALS WITH ROM ‘COOKING’ AND THUS IT MAY CAUSE SEVERE DATA LOSS OR EVEN IRREMEDIABLY DAMAGE YOUR DEVICE!
THE AUTHOR, NOR EVERY OTHER PERSON INVOLVED (E.G. THE ROM TOOLS DEVELOPERS), SHALL NOT BE HELD RESPONSIBLE FOR ANY MALFUNCTIONS OR DAMAGES THIS PROCEDURE MAY CAUSE.
By following this tutorial, you're removing both the bootloaders (IPL and SPL) from a rom of your choice. This means that, if you don't make errors while 'cooking' the rom, you cannot completely destroy (brick) your phone. Sure, you could end up with a non-booting rom but, as long as you can get to the three colors screen (the bootloader screen) you'll always be able to install a different (or your previous) working rom.
On the other hand, messing with IPL and SPL (i.e. installing a rom containing IPL and SPL in a CID locked device) is EXTREMELY DANGEROUS and MUST be avoided in most cases!!!
Installing a 2.xx rom without messing with your phone's IPL and SPL is exactly what this tutorial tries to explain.
NEVER INSTALL ROMS OR FOLLOW TUTORIALS IF YOU'RE NOT SURE OF WHAT YOU'RE DOING!!!
ALWAYS ASK BEFORE PROCEEDING! A SIMPLE QUESTION MAY SAVE YOUR PHONE FROM DEATH!
Worked perfect!
Thank you very much for the clear explanation!!! 8)
HI,
Have I to introduce on nb2nbf SW the ITA language without CID??
squarna said:
HI,
Have I to introduce on nb2nbf SW the ITA language without CID??
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Leave the CID field empty and specify the language you're installing (ITA for italian, WWE for english).
Hi,
I have installed this SW on my MDA T-mobile:
IPL:2.21.0001
SPL:2.21.0001
GSM:2.19.11
OS:2.21.2.6
EXROM:2.21.2.109
What is the best Italian ROM to flash inside?
squarna said:
Hi,
I have installed this SW on my MDA T-mobile:
IPL:2.21.0001
SPL:2.21.0001
GSM:2.19.11
OS:2.21.2.6
EXROM:2.21.2.109
What is the best Italian ROM to flash inside?
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This is quite Off Topic here, anyway you can use K-Jam 2.18 italian ROM (find it here: ftp://ftp.clubimate.com/K-JAM_ITA_2180901_21809104_20710_ship.zip)
German to WWE
Worked perfect, no glitches! Thanks for the help!
So is there any issues with using a mismatched ipl/spl bootloader on my G4 equipped O2 mini S?
I really want to install Mr. Clean's Clean ROM, but i am afraid of bricking it.
I have done ROm upgrades before by CID unlocking my old Qtek9100 G3 (but my foolish friend dropped it into a cup of coffeee and killed it).
I will admit, the Mr. CLean Rom was WAY faster than my OE 2.21 ROm on my O2.
Is there anyway to go back and uninstall? Ie. download rom from O2 website to restore it?
REgards,
ED
minirx7 said:
So is there any issues with using a mismatched ipl/spl bootloader on my G4 equipped O2 mini S?
I really want to install Mr. Clean's Clean ROM, but i am afraid of bricking it.
I have done ROm upgrades before by CID unlocking my old Qtek9100 G3 (but my foolish friend dropped it into a cup of coffeee and killed it).
I will admit, the Mr. CLean Rom was WAY faster than my OE 2.21 ROm on my O2.
Is there anyway to go back and uninstall? Ie. download rom from O2 website to restore it?
REgards,
ED
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You CAN install MrClean AKU2.3 ROM BUT only if you first modify it following my guide: you cannot touch the IPL/SPL parts!!!
There are two reasons for not installing the original, unmodified MrClean ROM:
1) G4 phones cannot be CID unlocked. This means that you can replace their original IPL/SPL ONLY with a newer version made by the very same operator: e.g. if you have a 2.21 WWE T-mobile ROM then you can ONLY update this rom with a version > 2.21 made by T-mobile!!! You CANNOT use any other language nor any other operator's ROMs (cingular's, qtek's, etc).
2) MrClean ROM, as all the other home made ROMs you'll find in this forum, can be installed ONLY in G3 models because it contains only IPL and SPL version 1.0 (G4 phones need version 2.0)
Basically then, you have only 3 choices:
a) Follow my tutorial and be able to install every 2.x ROM you like (both stock ROMs and home made ones, every language, every operator). The only limitation is that you cannot install 1.x ROMs!
b) Install ONLY ROMs that are the OFFICIAL update to the one you have currently installed (e.g. if you have cingular 2.25 WWE rom then you'll be able to update it only when and if, a new, official, wwe, cingular ROM will be released). You won't be able to install a different language ROM nor a ROM made by a different operator, nor a home made ROM (like MrClean).
c) you can CID unlock your G4 wizard using some online service but: it will cost you money and you won't still be able to install home-made ROM 'cos they contain only IPL/SPL version 1.0 (you'll still need IPL/SPL version 2.0)
That said, i strongly suggest you solution (a)! It's free, it's very simple (it may seem complex but after the first time it'll be straight forward), it's the safest (because you don't replace the boot loader IPL and SPL) and it let you install whichever 2.x ROM you like!
Bye
Thank you risidoro,
Yes, i do realize the G4 IPL/SPL must not be altered to prevent from bricking the device.
I will try the Mr. Clean ROM tonight using your tutorial. I guess my only question is, will there be an issue using a 2.21 G4 IPL SPL on a 2.24ROM?
DOes the bootloader actual change with new ROMS?
risidoro said:
minirx7 said:
So is there any issues with using a mismatched ipl/spl bootloader on my G4 equipped O2 mini S?
I really want to install Mr. Clean's Clean ROM, but i am afraid of bricking it.
I have done ROm upgrades before by CID unlocking my old Qtek9100 G3 (but my foolish friend dropped it into a cup of coffeee and killed it).
I will admit, the Mr. CLean Rom was WAY faster than my OE 2.21 ROm on my O2.
Is there anyway to go back and uninstall? Ie. download rom from O2 website to restore it?
REgards,
ED
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You CAN install MrClean AKU2.3 ROM BUT only if you first modify it following my guide: you cannot touch the IPL/SPL parts!!!
There are two reasons for not installing the original, unmodified MrClean ROM:
1) G4 phones cannot be CID unlocked. This means that you can replace their original IPL/SPL ONLY with a newer version made by the very same operator: e.g. if you have a 2.21 WWE T-mobile ROM then you can ONLY update this rom with a version > 2.21 made by T-mobile!!! You CANNOT use any other language nor any other operator's ROMs (cingular's, qtek's, etc).
2) MrClean ROM, as all the other home made ROMs you'll find in this forum, can be installed ONLY in G3 models because it contains only IPL and SPL version 1.0 (G4 phones need version 2.0)
Basically then, you have only 3 choices:
a) Follow my tutorial and be able to install every 2.x ROM you like (both stock ROMs and home made ones, every language, every operator). The only limitation is that you cannot install 1.x ROMs!
b) Install ONLY ROMs that are the OFFICIAL update to the one you have currently installed (e.g. if you have cingular 2.25 WWE rom then you'll be able to update it only when and if, a new, official, wwe, cingular ROM will be released). You won't be able to install a different language ROM nor a ROM made by a different operator, nor a home made ROM (like MrClean).
c) you can CID unlock your G4 wizard using some online service but: it will cost you money and you won't still be able to install home-made ROM 'cos they contain only IPL/SPL version 1.0 (you'll still need IPL/SPL version 2.0)
That said, i strongly suggest you solution (a)! It's free, it's very simple (it may seem complex but after the first time it'll be straight forward), it's the safest (because you don't replace the boot loader IPL and SPL) and it let you install whichever 2.x ROM you like!
Bye
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minirx7 said:
Thank you risidoro,
Yes, i do realize the G4 IPL/SPL must not be altered to prevent from bricking the device.
I will try the Mr. Clean ROM tonight using your tutorial. I guess my only question is, will there be an issue using a 2.21 G4 IPL SPL on a 2.24ROM?
DOes the bootloader actual change with new ROMS?
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Bootloader and ROM version numbers usually are the same (so ROM 2.24 should have IPL/SPL 2.24) but they can be different. I've used IPL/SPL 2.21.001 with both 2.18 and 2.24 ROMs.
Maybe newer ROMs, greater than 2.24, will require an updated IPL/SPL so you'll be obliged to CID unlock your phone. By then however, i hope there'll be a free CID unlocking tool for G4.
bye
Thank you risidoro!! I was regretting getting my O2 miniS G4, in place of my broken Qtek 9100 G3.
I will give it a shot tonight. I noticed that the 2.24 ROM was much faster when I used it on my Qtek, over any other ROM.
Regards
risidoro said:
minirx7 said:
Thank you risidoro,
Yes, i do realize the G4 IPL/SPL must not be altered to prevent from bricking the device.
I will try the Mr. Clean ROM tonight using your tutorial. I guess my only question is, will there be an issue using a 2.21 G4 IPL SPL on a 2.24ROM?
DOes the bootloader actual change with new ROMS?
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Bootloader and ROM version numbers usually are the same (so ROM 2.24 should have IPL/SPL 2.24) but they can be different. I've used IPL/SPL 2.21.001 with both 2.18 and 2.24 ROMs.
Maybe newer ROMs, greater than 2.24, will require an updated IPL/SPL so you'll be obliged to CID unlock your phone. By then however, i hope there'll be a free CID unlocking tool for G4.
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THANK YOU THANK YOU!!!
I HAVE SUCCESSFULLY INSTALLED MR. CLEAN 2.24A ON MY G4 DEVICE!!!!
THe ROM is so much faster and smoother than the OE 2.21 ROM!!! tahnks again!
risidoro did you SIM unlock your G4 phone ? If yes what tool and version did you use to do that ?
jeegnesh said:
risidoro did you SIM unlock your G4 phone ? If yes what tool and version did you use to do that ?
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My two phones were both factory simunlocked but i heard that some people is successfully using LokiwizMSL 0.3a to sim unlock G4 wizards.
Just follow the author's instruction. The procedure is staightforward.
Find it here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=50768&highlight=lokiwiz
Bye
Thanks for the superfast reply, actually waiting for someone to get me this phone, hopefully this week, wil try it out once I get it.
Using Clean ROM, does it just improve startup time, or does it improve performace of the phone in general ?
Do you have to re-install software after ROM update ?
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Thanks for the superfast reply, actually waiting for someone to get me this phone, hopefully this week, wil try it out once I get it.
Using Clean ROM, does it just improve startup time, or does it improve performace of the phone in general ?
Do you have to re-install software after ROM update ?
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Upgrading the OS part of a ROM cause your phone to hard reset, so yes, you'll have to reinstall everything. If, on the other hand, you upgrade any other part (GSM, Splash, ExtROM, HTC) but not the OS then you won't loose your data.
MrClean ROM and Summitter's ROM are both very fast. The latter contains cingular's customizations in extROM (they don't slow down the phone, they're mainly registry settings), some ringtones and compact framework 2.0 in ROM. If you're not a cingular user then i suggest you take the OS part from summitter's rom and the extrom from the MrClean. Then join the two parts with nb2nbf and flash to your device.
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Any reason to take Summitter's OS is it faster or something then Mr Clean ?
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Any reason to take Summitter's OS is it faster or something then Mr Clean ?
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No. Both summitter and mrclean use the same OS ROM (2.24.10 AKU2.3) hence they have the SAME, IDENTICAL speed.
The difference is that Summitter manually edited the original ROM and added a lot of ringtones, themes and, most important, the .net compact framework 2.0. If you install Summitter OS, then, you'll have the same mrclean basic OS plus a lot of goodies that don't take any space in storage since they're in ROM (compact framework 2.0 alone would take about 5mb of your precious storage if you installed it on mrclean).
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This thread needs to be a sticky!!
How i can downgrade version on WIZA200 (T-mobile MDA) to 2.01?
or how i can debrand ? I try to install (RUU_Prodigy_1030711_120_10410_Qtek_GER_Ship.exe) but gives error and need newer version.
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john
GSMFLASCH said:
How i can downgrade version on WIZA200 (T-mobile MDA) to 2.01?
or how i can debrand ? I try to install (RUU_Prodigy_1030711_120_10410_Qtek_GER_Ship.exe) but gives error and need newer version.
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john
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Judging by your post title... you appear to have a G4...
If you determine that you have a G3 you can SuperCID & SIM unlock, then simply install the desired ROM package (.exe) from your desired provider.
Start here: http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Wizard
If in fact you do have a G4, you can flash any ROM on your device by following the procedures found (SIM unlock required for use with other provider SIMs)...
here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=271043&highlight=install+any+ROM
or alternate method just for OS and not other parts look here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=271043&highlight=install+any+ROM
Make sure you understand everything that is explained on these pages before you attempt anything or you risk "bricking" your device.
i think my cingular is dead
i have a cingular 8125 Cingular 8125
IPL 2.25
SPL 2.25
Radio 02.25.11
OS 2.25.11.1
i tried to downgrade to 1.8.11 and now is dead.not even start.can i repair it?what shoul i do?
neapci said:
i have a cingular 8125 Cingular 8125
IPL 2.25
SPL 2.25
Radio 02.25.11
OS 2.25.11.1
i tried to downgrade to 1.8.11 and now is dead.not even start.can i repair it?what shoul i do?
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First of all, why are you downgrading? Are you certain you have a G3? Did you unlock your device? If you can get the phone into boot loader mode you can recover. Flash your providers most recent ROM, put the device into boot loader mode first. READ the wiki. If you skip steps, this happens.
my phone is g4 and accidentally i've flashed a g3 rom.the bootloader is crashed.it doesn't even start.can be repaired?
G4
thx for answer,
MDA is G4 WIZARD200 2.21.0001 version, and its T-Mobile branded, which ROM is best for this MDA without branding? Germany Lng.
Because of my broblem i dont want to have any t-mobile-O2-Orange branding on phone just standart some room without any branding in Germany Language.
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GSMFLASCH said:
thx for answer,
MDA is G4 WIZARD200 2.21.0001 version, and its T-Mobile branded, which ROM is best for this MDA without branding? Germany Lng.
Because of my broblem i dont want to have any t-mobile-O2-Orange branding on phone just standart some room without any branding in Germany Language.
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John
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Yes, just find a G3 Rom that suits your needs and modify it using the instructions in my earlier post to you and you should be able to get it on your device.
ercave1 said:
Yes, just find a G3 Rom that suits your needs and modify it using the instructions in my earlier post to you and you should be able to get it on your device.
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I get crazy , modify is no problem to do , but i didnt find one good rom without branding in germany language, if you have time can you give me a link maybe ? thank u very much.
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is there anyway to "shelltools" flash my radio rom? I've been missing a lot of calls lately and it really is becoming inconvenient. I havent unlocked my phone, but i am running wm6 using shelltools (mfrazzz's stuff) and i was wondering do i even need to have my phone unlocked to flash my radio? i dont want to lose my warranty so thats why this matters to me. Any ideas guys?
You may get the official (in your case, T-Mobile, I guess) ROM to flash your phone with the full set of WM5 ROM (e.g. IPL, SPL, OS and Radio). As you are using the official ROM, you do not have to CID-unlock your phone prior flashing this official ROM. After that, you may then use shelltool to update/upgrade/flash the WM6 in, while the radio is untouched (e.g. still using the one you've flashed with the official ROM).
i thin i have done what you said already. Before i flashed mfrazzz's wm6 rom i flashed the latest tmobile rom, then i proceeded to flash the wm6 rom. I didnt use shelltools to flash the official tmobile rom obviosuly, but i did use shelltools to flash mrazzz's wm6 rom.
these are my things from what i'm using now:
ipl 2.26
spl 2.26
gsm 02.25.11
os 2.18.0.0
Flash the t-mobile uk radio rom 2.19.11.. that'll work for u.
ur OS is wrong if ur running wm6...
2.18 is Crossbow Reloaded... or Faria's..
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Flash the t-mobile uk radio rom 2.19.11.. that'll work for u.
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can i just flash that right now without being unlocked? i'm in boston, does that matter? lol
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2.18 is Crossbow Reloaded... or Faria's..
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oh, my bad then lol.
and yes u can change ur radio without being unlocked
ok thanks guys for all the help, but i still have a couple small questions
first, in this post http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=253609&page=4
(post #34) he says that if you dont cid unlock before applying the radio rom you will brick the phone.
next im looking for that uk rom, but i really cant find it, can anyone point me in the right place? and even though im in the US it will still work right?
thank you guys so much! i really aappreciate it
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ok thanks guys for all the help, but i still have a couple small questions
first, in this post http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=253609&page=4
(post #34) he says that if you dont cid unlock before applying the radio rom you will brick the phone.
next im looking for that uk rom, but i really cant find it, can anyone point me in the right place? and even though im in the US it will still work right?
thank you guys so much! i really aappreciate it
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I have flashed my RADIO ONLY several times with no consequences for my CID LOCKED G4 Wizard, here´s the link for the RADIO ONLY
ftp://xda:[email protected]_Thread/T-Mobile-UK_2.19.11_Radio_Only.zip
You have flashed RADIO only on you G4? HOW? I am having the following problem:
I had to flash a T-Mobile German ROM to use the shelltool for the latest WM6 ROM, it worked but unforunately I have got Radio 2.69 and IPL 3.08.XXX1. (from the latest official MDA Vario ROM flash before)
After the Hardreset everything went fine - I've got WM6, but after i had changed the Clock settings and restarted my device i simply have NO SIGNAL anymore. I am currently in australia maybe thats the reason???
I tried to install the offical T-Mobile AKU 2.0, but the RUU shows me error 296 as I have installed a later ROM AKU3.3 bevor my WM6 flash.
Which tools have y used? And how is the procedure?
Cheers!!!
irm
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You have flashed RADIO only on you G4? HOW? I am having the following problem:
I had to flash a T-Mobile German ROM to use the shelltool for the latest WM6 ROM, it worked but unforunately I have got Radio 2.69 and IPL 3.08.XXX1. (from the latest official MDA Vario ROM flash before)
After the Hardreset everything went fine - I've got WM6, but after i had changed the Clock settings and restarted my device i simply have NO SIGNAL anymore. I am currently in australia maybe thats the reason???
I tried to install the offical T-Mobile AKU 2.0, but the RUU shows me error 296 as I have installed a later ROM AKU3.3 bevor my WM6 flash.
Which tools have y used? And how is the procedure?
Cheers!!!
irm
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No, we can´t flash a ROM with bootloader other than the one you have if you have a G4 CID locked device. Unless you use a RUU with no ID (see next paragraph) and the nb.nkf file lacks of IPL/SPL, such is the case of the Wizard Love which I use before to flash any other ROM with the Shell Tool.
Read post #2 of this thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=310954
Read carefully where talks about Splash Screens and Splash Only RUU for G4, same procedure for splash screen applies to RADIO. This doesn´t work for OS, for OS you have to use Shell Tool.
Good luck!
Hello!
I initially PM'd a few people regarding this but I think I'll get more interaction if I just made it a thread.
I have a MDA. Following the The Definitive Guide to Unlocking & Rom Upgrading G3 Wizards by Dr. Puttingham, I was able to get it unlocked and updated to T-Mobile v2.26 and the process went perfectly *smooth 'n nice*.
Now... I'm targeting XDA Mobile 6 as my new ROM (OS).
Going through the requirements of X6, I found out that it's just the ROM... no IPL/SPL, Radio, or Ext...
Also, in the guide linked above a newer IPL/SPL v3.08 is mentioned... and similarly, in the X6's thread, a note regarding a T-Mobile 2.19 UK Radio is also mentioned.
Now I have all these files but I don't know how to proceed...
what should I install first? <- Very, very Important! teh sequence
Should I go for the IPL/SPL v3?
I already studied the whole XDA Mobile 6 thread and figured that I should stick with Radio v2.19 as per mfrazzz recommendation.
So, as the title says, "PL/SPL+Radio+Ext.ROM+ROM itself"... how am I to mix them all up together?
salaaam! noticed your in lahore!
ok, i was in a similar position to you,
this is what i did:
i started off with ipl/spl 1.01
CID Unlocked and SIM-unlocked using LOKIWIZ (THIS IS IMPORTANT, MAKE SURE YOU HAVE CID-UNLOCKED!)
download the official T-Mobile 2.26 Update
Install the T-Mobile update, your IPL/SPL Changes to 2.26
download XM6,
FLASH IT!
its as simple as that once you've CID-Unlocked
you dont want to be mixing around with anything!
dont worry about IPL/SPL V3, there is very little/no gain over ipl/spl 2.26 (i actually went to ipl/spl 3.08 and then ended up downgrading to ipl/spl 2.26
Radio- use the reccommended one in the XM6 thread, no other radio roms appear to work so well with windows mobile 6
ext.rom is basically the 'extended rom' what this is, is a little area of flash memory in your wizard that, when you turn your wizard on for the first time, it installs some t-mobile customisations like the themese and dial skins and stuff.
so, in summary: after cid-unlocking and flashing 2.26 you can pretty much flash any other rom you want! its only with a G4 its a little complicated, but by the sounds of it you dont have a G4!
good luck!
oh, forgot to add:
YOU DONT WANT TO BE PLAYING AROUND WITH IPL/SPL, this is what bricks most phones
an unsuccessful OS flash can be repaired easily, but an unsuccessful COMPLETE rom update (i.e OS + ipl/spl + ext_rom) cannot be repaired so easily.
ALL of the roms in the 'Wizard Mobile 6' forums are OS ONLY, so you can flash away! just keep the official 2.26 update handy just in case!
i've never had any problems with flashing roms, and i have tried nearly all of the pandora WM6 roms (almost 10 of them i think), XM6 (the one you wish to try), WM6 BE, NBD all of his versions, TNT 2.0, Ti edition, Farias real thing and now ive settled on my own cooked rom!
Thank you so much Duke!
Okay, this just leaves a bit of room for Radio... the TMv2.26 has radio v02.25.11... I downloaded the recommended Radio version.
Should I update the ROM first or the Radio?
i would upgrade the radio rom first
provided you've cid-unlocked,you can flash every rom on the forums as though they were official updates!
good luck!
proper method would be to make sure if you have the phone unlocked first (follow whichever method is indicated on the unlocking thread).
then, flash to an official rom (whether it's the us t-mobile 2.26 or the german/european 3.08). these roms have ipl/spl, radio, and os (wm5) in them.
afterwards flash with the custom rom of your choice. most recent roms on the forum seem to be os only, so you don't have to worry about the other parts (ipl/spl, radio). older wm5 roms use to have ipl/spl integrated in them (faria, molski, xelencin). just make sure you read the corresponding thread by the rom chef for the rom you're looking to upgrade to.
finish off with the radio update. most radio rom flashs are designed to be radio only.
in summary:
unlock --> official t-mobile rom --> custom rom --> radio rom
Success
"Success"
monkey_knight, I already flashed according to duke_stix's procedure: unlock --> official t-mobile rom --> radio rom --> custom rom
All went well and I can't be any happier! This is the best ROM I've seen and to all my friends saying that WM6 is for those 600MHz processors: In your Face!
I feel my MDA is faster on this ROM then the official one!
Thanks a million to all you guys. You are all Cyber-Wizard (Level 255)