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[How-To] Install any 2.x ROM in a CID-Locked G3 or G4 Wizard

Hi,
a few days ago i wrote on this forum that i had been able to install an italian ROM on a G4, CID-Locked Wizard. Since then, i've received several mails and PM from users asking me how i did. Instead of replying each one, i though it was better to write a tutorial and post it here for everyone to read/comment/correct it.
Here it is. Together with the tools you'll need to perform the update.
PS: in this tutorial i'm not explaining how to CID-UNlock a G4 or G3 (>= 2.21) phone. There is not yet a way to CID unlock these phones. I'm just describing how to circumvent the CID-lock problem by installing a ROM deprived of the IPL and SPL parts.
DISCLAIMER: THE PROCEDURE I’M GOING TO EXPLAIN DEALS WITH ROM ‘COOKING’ AND THUS IT MAY CAUSE SEVERE DATA LOSS OR EVEN IRREMEDIABLY DAMAGE YOUR DEVICE!
THE AUTHOR, NOR EVERY OTHER PERSON INVOLVED (E.G. THE ROM TOOLS DEVELOPERS), SHALL NOT BE HELD RESPONSIBLE FOR ANY MALFUNCTIONS OR DAMAGES THIS PROCEDURE MAY CAUSE.
By following this tutorial, you're removing both the bootloaders (IPL and SPL) from a rom of your choice. This means that, if you don't make errors while 'cooking' the rom, you cannot completely destroy (brick) your phone. Sure, you could end up with a non-booting rom but, as long as you can get to the three colors screen (the bootloader screen) you'll always be able to install a different (or your previous) working rom.
On the other hand, messing with IPL and SPL (i.e. installing a rom containing IPL and SPL in a CID locked device) is EXTREMELY DANGEROUS and MUST be avoided in most cases!!!
Installing a 2.xx rom without messing with your phone's IPL and SPL is exactly what this tutorial tries to explain.
NEVER INSTALL ROMS OR FOLLOW TUTORIALS IF YOU'RE NOT SURE OF WHAT YOU'RE DOING!!!
ALWAYS ASK BEFORE PROCEEDING! A SIMPLE QUESTION MAY SAVE YOUR PHONE FROM DEATH!

Worked perfect!
Thank you very much for the clear explanation!!! 8)

HI,
Have I to introduce on nb2nbf SW the ITA language without CID??

squarna said:
HI,
Have I to introduce on nb2nbf SW the ITA language without CID??
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Leave the CID field empty and specify the language you're installing (ITA for italian, WWE for english).

Hi,
I have installed this SW on my MDA T-mobile:
IPL:2.21.0001
SPL:2.21.0001
GSM:2.19.11
OS:2.21.2.6
EXROM:2.21.2.109
What is the best Italian ROM to flash inside?

squarna said:
Hi,
I have installed this SW on my MDA T-mobile:
IPL:2.21.0001
SPL:2.21.0001
GSM:2.19.11
OS:2.21.2.6
EXROM:2.21.2.109
What is the best Italian ROM to flash inside?
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This is quite Off Topic here, anyway you can use K-Jam 2.18 italian ROM (find it here: ftp://ftp.clubimate.com/K-JAM_ITA_2180901_21809104_20710_ship.zip)

German to WWE
Worked perfect, no glitches! Thanks for the help!

So is there any issues with using a mismatched ipl/spl bootloader on my G4 equipped O2 mini S?
I really want to install Mr. Clean's Clean ROM, but i am afraid of bricking it.
I have done ROm upgrades before by CID unlocking my old Qtek9100 G3 (but my foolish friend dropped it into a cup of coffeee and killed it).
I will admit, the Mr. CLean Rom was WAY faster than my OE 2.21 ROm on my O2.
Is there anyway to go back and uninstall? Ie. download rom from O2 website to restore it?
REgards,
ED

minirx7 said:
So is there any issues with using a mismatched ipl/spl bootloader on my G4 equipped O2 mini S?
I really want to install Mr. Clean's Clean ROM, but i am afraid of bricking it.
I have done ROm upgrades before by CID unlocking my old Qtek9100 G3 (but my foolish friend dropped it into a cup of coffeee and killed it).
I will admit, the Mr. CLean Rom was WAY faster than my OE 2.21 ROm on my O2.
Is there anyway to go back and uninstall? Ie. download rom from O2 website to restore it?
REgards,
ED
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You CAN install MrClean AKU2.3 ROM BUT only if you first modify it following my guide: you cannot touch the IPL/SPL parts!!!
There are two reasons for not installing the original, unmodified MrClean ROM:
1) G4 phones cannot be CID unlocked. This means that you can replace their original IPL/SPL ONLY with a newer version made by the very same operator: e.g. if you have a 2.21 WWE T-mobile ROM then you can ONLY update this rom with a version > 2.21 made by T-mobile!!! You CANNOT use any other language nor any other operator's ROMs (cingular's, qtek's, etc).
2) MrClean ROM, as all the other home made ROMs you'll find in this forum, can be installed ONLY in G3 models because it contains only IPL and SPL version 1.0 (G4 phones need version 2.0)
Basically then, you have only 3 choices:
a) Follow my tutorial and be able to install every 2.x ROM you like (both stock ROMs and home made ones, every language, every operator). The only limitation is that you cannot install 1.x ROMs!
b) Install ONLY ROMs that are the OFFICIAL update to the one you have currently installed (e.g. if you have cingular 2.25 WWE rom then you'll be able to update it only when and if, a new, official, wwe, cingular ROM will be released). You won't be able to install a different language ROM nor a ROM made by a different operator, nor a home made ROM (like MrClean).
c) you can CID unlock your G4 wizard using some online service but: it will cost you money and you won't still be able to install home-made ROM 'cos they contain only IPL/SPL version 1.0 (you'll still need IPL/SPL version 2.0)
That said, i strongly suggest you solution (a)! It's free, it's very simple (it may seem complex but after the first time it'll be straight forward), it's the safest (because you don't replace the boot loader IPL and SPL) and it let you install whichever 2.x ROM you like!
Bye

Thank you risidoro,
Yes, i do realize the G4 IPL/SPL must not be altered to prevent from bricking the device.
I will try the Mr. Clean ROM tonight using your tutorial. I guess my only question is, will there be an issue using a 2.21 G4 IPL SPL on a 2.24ROM?
DOes the bootloader actual change with new ROMS?
risidoro said:
minirx7 said:
So is there any issues with using a mismatched ipl/spl bootloader on my G4 equipped O2 mini S?
I really want to install Mr. Clean's Clean ROM, but i am afraid of bricking it.
I have done ROm upgrades before by CID unlocking my old Qtek9100 G3 (but my foolish friend dropped it into a cup of coffeee and killed it).
I will admit, the Mr. CLean Rom was WAY faster than my OE 2.21 ROm on my O2.
Is there anyway to go back and uninstall? Ie. download rom from O2 website to restore it?
REgards,
ED
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You CAN install MrClean AKU2.3 ROM BUT only if you first modify it following my guide: you cannot touch the IPL/SPL parts!!!
There are two reasons for not installing the original, unmodified MrClean ROM:
1) G4 phones cannot be CID unlocked. This means that you can replace their original IPL/SPL ONLY with a newer version made by the very same operator: e.g. if you have a 2.21 WWE T-mobile ROM then you can ONLY update this rom with a version > 2.21 made by T-mobile!!! You CANNOT use any other language nor any other operator's ROMs (cingular's, qtek's, etc).
2) MrClean ROM, as all the other home made ROMs you'll find in this forum, can be installed ONLY in G3 models because it contains only IPL and SPL version 1.0 (G4 phones need version 2.0)
Basically then, you have only 3 choices:
a) Follow my tutorial and be able to install every 2.x ROM you like (both stock ROMs and home made ones, every language, every operator). The only limitation is that you cannot install 1.x ROMs!
b) Install ONLY ROMs that are the OFFICIAL update to the one you have currently installed (e.g. if you have cingular 2.25 WWE rom then you'll be able to update it only when and if, a new, official, wwe, cingular ROM will be released). You won't be able to install a different language ROM nor a ROM made by a different operator, nor a home made ROM (like MrClean).
c) you can CID unlock your G4 wizard using some online service but: it will cost you money and you won't still be able to install home-made ROM 'cos they contain only IPL/SPL version 1.0 (you'll still need IPL/SPL version 2.0)
That said, i strongly suggest you solution (a)! It's free, it's very simple (it may seem complex but after the first time it'll be straight forward), it's the safest (because you don't replace the boot loader IPL and SPL) and it let you install whichever 2.x ROM you like!
Bye
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minirx7 said:
Thank you risidoro,
Yes, i do realize the G4 IPL/SPL must not be altered to prevent from bricking the device.
I will try the Mr. Clean ROM tonight using your tutorial. I guess my only question is, will there be an issue using a 2.21 G4 IPL SPL on a 2.24ROM?
DOes the bootloader actual change with new ROMS?
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Bootloader and ROM version numbers usually are the same (so ROM 2.24 should have IPL/SPL 2.24) but they can be different. I've used IPL/SPL 2.21.001 with both 2.18 and 2.24 ROMs.
Maybe newer ROMs, greater than 2.24, will require an updated IPL/SPL so you'll be obliged to CID unlock your phone. By then however, i hope there'll be a free CID unlocking tool for G4.
bye

Thank you risidoro!! I was regretting getting my O2 miniS G4, in place of my broken Qtek 9100 G3.
I will give it a shot tonight. I noticed that the 2.24 ROM was much faster when I used it on my Qtek, over any other ROM.
Regards
risidoro said:
minirx7 said:
Thank you risidoro,
Yes, i do realize the G4 IPL/SPL must not be altered to prevent from bricking the device.
I will try the Mr. Clean ROM tonight using your tutorial. I guess my only question is, will there be an issue using a 2.21 G4 IPL SPL on a 2.24ROM?
DOes the bootloader actual change with new ROMS?
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Bootloader and ROM version numbers usually are the same (so ROM 2.24 should have IPL/SPL 2.24) but they can be different. I've used IPL/SPL 2.21.001 with both 2.18 and 2.24 ROMs.
Maybe newer ROMs, greater than 2.24, will require an updated IPL/SPL so you'll be obliged to CID unlock your phone. By then however, i hope there'll be a free CID unlocking tool for G4.
bye
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THANK YOU THANK YOU!!!
I HAVE SUCCESSFULLY INSTALLED MR. CLEAN 2.24A ON MY G4 DEVICE!!!!
THe ROM is so much faster and smoother than the OE 2.21 ROM!!! tahnks again!

risidoro did you SIM unlock your G4 phone ? If yes what tool and version did you use to do that ?

jeegnesh said:
risidoro did you SIM unlock your G4 phone ? If yes what tool and version did you use to do that ?
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My two phones were both factory simunlocked but i heard that some people is successfully using LokiwizMSL 0.3a to sim unlock G4 wizards.
Just follow the author's instruction. The procedure is staightforward.
Find it here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=50768&highlight=lokiwiz
Bye

Thanks for the superfast reply, actually waiting for someone to get me this phone, hopefully this week, wil try it out once I get it.
Using Clean ROM, does it just improve startup time, or does it improve performace of the phone in general ?
Do you have to re-install software after ROM update ?

jeegnesh said:
Thanks for the superfast reply, actually waiting for someone to get me this phone, hopefully this week, wil try it out once I get it.
Using Clean ROM, does it just improve startup time, or does it improve performace of the phone in general ?
Do you have to re-install software after ROM update ?
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Upgrading the OS part of a ROM cause your phone to hard reset, so yes, you'll have to reinstall everything. If, on the other hand, you upgrade any other part (GSM, Splash, ExtROM, HTC) but not the OS then you won't loose your data.
MrClean ROM and Summitter's ROM are both very fast. The latter contains cingular's customizations in extROM (they don't slow down the phone, they're mainly registry settings), some ringtones and compact framework 2.0 in ROM. If you're not a cingular user then i suggest you take the OS part from summitter's rom and the extrom from the MrClean. Then join the two parts with nb2nbf and flash to your device.
Bye

Any reason to take Summitter's OS is it faster or something then Mr Clean ?

jeegnesh said:
Any reason to take Summitter's OS is it faster or something then Mr Clean ?
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No. Both summitter and mrclean use the same OS ROM (2.24.10 AKU2.3) hence they have the SAME, IDENTICAL speed.
The difference is that Summitter manually edited the original ROM and added a lot of ringtones, themes and, most important, the .net compact framework 2.0. If you install Summitter OS, then, you'll have the same mrclean basic OS plus a lot of goodies that don't take any space in storage since they're in ROM (compact framework 2.0 alone would take about 5mb of your precious storage if you installed it on mrclean).
bye

This thread needs to be a sticky!!

Ipl/spl: 1.08

I just got my T-Mobile MDA in the mail and searched the forums for my IPL/SPL with no such luck. I was looking at a Custom 2.26 ROM but it requires 2.xx to install.
Do I need to upgrade with another official ROM and then run this?
PS. I already CID Unlocked my phone with loki

Hmmm, searching google turned up this thread...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/archive/index.php/t-274205.html
thread said:
If you have any issues upgrading to this ROM I would advise downgrading to the origional T-Mobile 1.08 ROM first and then try installing this one again.
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So the 1.08 is the original ROM?
Are these ROMs available for DL anywhere unofficially? I want to flash my device, but don't want to wait a week for a cheap mini-SD card to come in the mail... anybody have any suggestions? Is this ROM even worth backing up being as aged as it is?

CID Unlocking question...

Hi,
I have a dutch HTC wizard/qtek 9100, with the AKU 2 NLD ROM.
I tried CID unlocking but noticed that didn't work with AKU 2,
Is it possible my phone isn't cid-locked? Is there a quick way to check?
How can I downgrade to an older rom version and what file should I use,
I tried this one: "RUU_Prodigy_1030710_110_10410_Qtek_NLD_Ship.exe"
but after restarting my wizard and loading the bootloader the update program gave an error claiming that it can only UPgrade to newer versions...
I suppose I cant use the wwe version or can I?
well, thanx in advance,
Bonusbartus

As written before, u need AKU 1 to CID unlock your phone..the only way to be sure is to unlock again. Use buttons rom.. downgrade to that... unlock the phone.. install the rom again so the IPL and SPL are the same..then you can switch to whatever rom you want. How ever, you havent shown what type of Wizard you have whether its a G3 or a G4..the above method is what i used for my G3 Wizard

I have a g3 wizard,
so I can use that rom, I don't need a dutch version or something else?

Bonusbartus said:
Hi,
I have a dutch HTC wizard/qtek 9100, with the AKU 2 NLD ROM.
I tried CID unlocking but noticed that didn't work with AKU 2,
Is it possible my phone isn't cid-locked? Is there a quick way to check?
How can I downgrade to an older rom version and what file should I use,
I tried this one: "RUU_Prodigy_1030710_110_10410_Qtek_NLD_Ship.exe"
but after restarting my wizard and loading the bootloader the update program gave an error claiming that it can only UPgrade to newer versions...
I suppose I cant use the wwe version or can I?
well, thanx in advance,
Bonusbartus
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1. Thank-you for posting in a new thread and not in a ROM release thread.
2. Do you have a G3 or G4 (what is your IPL/SPL?)
2a. If you have a G3 read the Sticky post The Definitive Guide to Unlocking & Rom Upgrading G3 Wizards.
2b. If you have a G4 log onto the IMEI pay site (links all over the place) and pay to get your phone unlocked.
3. IF you have a G3 rom you must downgrade to CID unlock. It isn't possible to CID unlock from AKU2 or higher (read the sticky, it tells you what you need to do)
4. The best thing to do if you are unsure is to just repeat the unlock procedure. It won't hurt a thing if you are already unlocked, but will unlock you if you are locked.
5. Don't do anything flash related until you know for sure, beyond a doubt which version of Wizard you have (G3 or G4) If you have a G4 and use G3 procedures you WILL most likely ruin your device.
6. You won't get this error if you follow the steps in the correct order from the upgrade guide.
7. Good Luck

Bonusbartus said:
I have a g3 wizard,
so I can use that rom, I don't need a dutch version or something else?
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With your G3 just follow the steps, in order, from the sticky and you should be able to end with whatever ROM you choose. Some of the steps may not make sense but, they are necessary and prevent common issues if followed correctly.

Well, I do have a G3 so I can follow the tutorial,
ipl and spl are 2.18,
only question left, CAN I downgrade to the wwe rom in the tutorial? that's what I wanna know, because I now have a nld rom, can I flash to the wwe rom in the tutorial without CID-unlocking?
well I think I just try
thanx
oh btw, any recommendations on which rom to flash to after unlocking? and I saw something about radio only roms and page-pools what would u recommend there?

Qtek 9100 and upgrade to WM6

I downloaded Viet4 and run upgrade, on welcome screen on PC during upgrade it does not correctly detect my Wizard and shows as ROM 1.0.0 and for new version it says only blanks.
After upgrade device just boots to previous version of the ROM (2.26). What am I doing wrong?

Let me be the first one to say it before someone else does... Read the Wiki
Joking aside, you need to give more info such as do you have a G3 or G4? Did you CID unlocked your device? The error you have given usually meant that your device is CID locked.

artisticcheese said:
I downloaded Viet4 and run upgrade, on welcome screen on PC during upgrade it does not correctly detect my Wizard and shows as ROM 1.0.0 and for new version it says only blanks.
After upgrade device just boots to previous version of the ROM (2.26). What am I doing wrong?
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sounds like you didn't CID unlock before trying to flash a rom that didn't come from your carrier.
and the upgrade tool will not have the right info in those fields. If your phone is unlocked the upgrade will work properly. Make sure you use the correct procedure based on whether you have a G3 or G4 phone.

I have G3 device
I have Qtek 9100 which was never locked of course. Then I installed ROM and radio upgrade with versions below
ROM version: 2.26.10.2 WWE
ROM date: 6/7/06
Radio version: 02.25.11
Protocol version: 4.1.13.12
Hardware:
CPU:OMAP850
Flash chip type:M-Systems
What do I do now?

artisticcheese said:
I have Qtek 9100 which was never locked of course. Then I installed ROM and radio upgrade with versions below
ROM version: 2.26.10.2 WWE
ROM date: 6/7/06
Radio version: 02.25.11
Protocol version: 4.1.13.12
Hardware:
CPU:OMAP850
Flash chip type:M-Systems
What do I do now?
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What is your IPL/SPL. And how do you know it was never locked? Have you personally unlocked it? Have you ever flashed any rom that was not from your carrier successfully?
If you have a G3 (ipl/spl 2.26/2.26) then I suggest following the full unlocking tutorial thread that is stickied. Trust me your phone is acting like a locked phone. If you haven't personally unlocked it then just humor us and do this. You will be amazed at the results.
If you have a G4 (ipl/spl 2.26.0001/2.26.0001) then you will have to use the pay website to unlock your phone. There is no other known way to unlock G4 devices at this time.

I assume since it was bought in Russia and branded as Qtek 9100 then it was not locked. Is it possible that ROM upgrade to Cingular ROM actually locked my phone?
SPL 2.26/2.26
I going through downgrade right now and then do CID unlock. Do I have to do SIM unlock as well? How do I know if device is unlocked?

artisticcheese said:
I assume since it was bought in Russia and branded as Qtek 9100 then it was not locked. Is it possible that ROM upgrade to Cingular ROM actually locked my phone?
SPL 2.26/2.26
I going through downgrade right now and then do CID unlock. Do I have to do SIM unlock as well? How do I know if device is unlocked?
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SIM unlock will allow you to use any sim from any carrier without getting an invalid sim error. If you aren't getting this error already you should be ok not doing it but it doesn't hurt to do it since you are in there with Lokiwiz already.
The tutorial tells you to do the SIM unlock first then do the CID unlock.
once you are completely done don't forget to flash up to a 2.x rom (2.26 T-Mobile rom suggested) before flashing a custom rom.
At this point when you flash the custom rom your OS and possibly GSM will change (IPL/SPL may change if you use a rom that includes them)
You should be good to go once the CID unlock process is done completely.

I used Unlock and CID Unlock, both went fine. Now IPL 1.01 SPL 2.26 OS 1.5.4.2.
Do I need to upgrade to 2.X before upgrading to WM6 or I can run upgrade the way it is now? Do I need to upgrade IPL (whatever it is to 2.26 as it was before?)
THanks,

artisticcheese said:
I used Unlock and CID Unlock, both went fine. Now IPL 1.01 SPL 2.26 OS 1.5.4.2.
Do I need to upgrade to 2.X before upgrading to WM6 or I can run upgrade the way it is now? Do I need to upgrade IPL (whatever it is to 2.26 as it was before?)
THanks,
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Right now you need to install the button rom again to get both IPL and SPL to 1.05. At that point you can flash back up to 2.26 and then to a custom rom of your choice.
The reflash of the button 1.05 rom is to ensure that you are truly unlocked. you will see that both IPL and SPL go to 1.05 -- this is good
The flash to a carrier 2.x rom is so that you have a good 2.x bootloader and don't inadvertantly flash a 2.x rom without bootloaders into 1.x bootloaders which will cause all kinds of issues.
Yes, you must flash a full 2.x rom before flashing the wm6 rom. The T-Mobile 2.26 is the recommended rom as it has the latest bootloaders available.
Then you go to the rom of your choice and enjoy
I know it's a pain in the behind but it is tried and true

Thanks,
This worked. The only issue now after I installed WM6 it starts installing some T-Mobile crap which appears belongs to 2.26 ROM I installed before. How can I clean install of WM6 without any T-Mobile stuff?
Thanks,

artisticcheese said:
Thanks,
This worked. The only issue now after I installed WM6 it starts installing some T-Mobile crap which appears belongs to 2.26 ROM I installed before. How can I clean install of WM6 without any T-Mobile stuff?
Thanks,
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Might have to flash a rom that has an empty extended rom before going to the one you went to. My guess is that the rom you flashed did not include an extended rom and when you flashed it the customizations ran from the previous roms extended rom since it was still there.
Faria's 3.3 v2 has a settings chooser menu so you can select settings for whichever network you are on but that only sets up MMS/GPRS stuff, and doesn't install any carrier specific apps.

Never mind, I recovered using some old iMate ROM. The problem now is that iMate ROM updated SPL/IPL to 2.16 while I had 2.26 for both before. Is it ok to run with 2.16 or there might be some issues? What is SPL/SPL are used for?

artisticcheese said:
Never mind, I recovered using some old iMate ROM. The problem now is that iMate ROM updated SPL/IPL to 2.16 while I had 2.26 for both before. Is it ok to run with 2.16 or there might be some issues? What is SPL/SPL are used for?
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2.16 should be fine. It is 2.xx and that is what really matters.
The issue that some people encounter is flashing an AKU2 or higher ROM into 1.xx bootloaders and have all sorts of issues, phone won't charge, radio doesn't show up, pda works but phone doesn't, battery drains quickly and no way to recharge, etc.

IPL/SPL 2.21 vs. IPL/SPL 2.26

Hi to everyone,
Does anybody know the differences between IPL/SPL 2.21 and 2.26?
As I read in the Wiki section IPL/SPL are the bootloaders of the phone, like the BIOS of our CPU's nada I dont want to mess with that!
Why I'm asking this?...
My PPC is an O2 XDA MiniS AKU2 IPL/SPL 2.21 and want to install Faria's ROM.
I will have to CID-UNLOCK first.
There are 2 threads of cid unlocking:
1) One for AKU2 PPC (call from here THREAD 1)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=263116
2) and other for those who has older rom (call from here THREAD 2).
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=285435
I was going to follow the steps that are include in thread 1 wich recommends to downgrade your rom, cid unlock and then install your manufacturer ROM (mine has IPL/SPL 2.21).
But reading thread 2 I found that is recommendable to have IPL/SPL 2.26 to run cooked ROM's just like Faria's.
The author recommends to install T-Mobile ROM to have strong IPL/SPL 2.26.
Here comes my doubts:
1) Is really necessary upgrading from IPL/SPL 2.21 to 2.26?
2) Will T-Mobile ROM gonna work in my O2 XDA MiniS or is going to screw my pda?
The idea is to get IPL/SPL 2.26 and then flash Faria's ROM.
Sorry if it's a double post, but I really couldnt find the answer.
Thanks in advance,
Paulo

polaco1977 said:
Here comes my doubts:
1) Is really necessary upgrading from IPL/SPL 2.21 to 2.26?
2) Will T-Mobile ROM gonna work in my O2 XDA MiniS or is going to screw my pda?
Thanks in advance,
Paulo
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1) not really. But you DO need to flash A carrier rom after downgrading to 1.x to unlock. The reason for this is you need to get your phone back up to AKU2 or higher. The T-Mobile rom is the recommended rom as it has the latest version of the bootloaders.
2) if you CID unlock your phone it will. The whole point of CID unlocking is so that we can flash roms from sources other than our own carriers. Now flashing another carrier's rom or a custom rom you WILL have to set up your GPRS and MMS settings again, they are most definitely different than your carrier's by default, and most custom roms don't include this information as it is easy enough to get from your own provider and many people across many different providers use the roms. Faria has included as many as he has the files for in his rom.

Zzan said:
1) not really. But you DO need to flash A carrier rom after downgrading to 1.x to unlock. The reason for this is you need to get your phone back up to AKU2 or higher. The T-Mobile rom is the recommended rom as it has the latest version of the bootloaders..
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>> First, thanks for your faster reply.
What I want to do is this:
a) Downgrade the ROM to cid-unlock my device
b) Flash with T-Mobile ROM to get IPL/SPL 2.26 or O2 Rom with IPL/SPL 2.21. (please read question #2)
c) Flash Cingular 2.25 radio (best of all in my opinion)
d) Flash with Faria's Rom
2) if you CID unlock your phone it will.
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>> It will work (at least boot) or it will screw it if I flash with the T-Mobile ROM?
The whole point of CID unlocking is so that we can flash roms from sources other than our own carriers. Now flashing another carrier's rom or a custom rom you WILL have to set up your GPRS and MMS settings again, they are most definitely different than your carrier's by default, and most custom roms don't include this information as it is easy enough to get from your own provider and many people across many different providers use the roms. Faria has included as many as he has the files for in his rom.
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>> I get the point of cid unlock my pda. I dont worry about those configuration because in Argentina (where I live) that services are too expensive to use.
Thanks for your help!
Paulo

polaco1977 said:
>> First, thanks for your faster reply.
What I want to do is this:
a) Downgrade the ROM to cid-unlock my device
b) Flash with T-Mobile ROM to get IPL/SPL 2.26 or O2 Rom with IPL/SPL 2.21. (please read question #2)
c) Flash Cingular 2.25 radio (best of all in my opinion)
d) Flash with Faria's Rom
>> It will work (at least boot) or it will screw it if I flash with the T-Mobile ROM?
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I have a mini s and I used the Tmobile rom to get my IPL/SPL up to 2.26 with no problems. I figure there must be some good code behind the version numbers so why not upgrade? In my opinion since it was recomended by the guys in the know why not go for it.
I like the new 2.61 radio.

polaco1977 said:
>> First, thanks for your faster reply.
What I want to do is this:
a) Downgrade the ROM to cid-unlock my device
b) Flash with T-Mobile ROM to get IPL/SPL 2.26 or O2 Rom with IPL/SPL 2.21. (please read question #2)
c) Flash Cingular 2.25 radio (best of all in my opinion)
d) Flash with Faria's Rom
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a) good -- Just follow all the steps and you will be successful (make sure your phone is a G3 if you aren't using a pay to unlock website)
b) , c) you only need to flash one of these. Once you are unlocked it doesn't matter which one, they will all get you to a version that you can flash Faria's rom from. Most people recommend the T-Mobile rom as it has the latest bootloaders and is a good base to build from
c) You can do this at any time after you have successfully flashed a carrier rom.
polaco1977 said:
>> It will work (at least boot) or it will screw it if I flash with the T-Mobile ROM?
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If you unlocked your phone properly with the method for your device type (G3 or G4) it will not hurt your phone to flash any ROM that is compatible with your phone version (G3's can flash most anything without issue, G4's can only flash certain ROMs)
polaco1977 said:
>> I get the point of cid unlock my pda. I dont worry about those configuration because in Argentina (where I live) that services are too expensive to use.
Thanks for your help!
Paulo
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You're welcome

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computer9cowboy said:
I have a mini s and I used the Tmobile rom to get my IPL/SPL up to 2.26 with no problems. I figure there must be some good code behind the version numbers so why not upgrade? In my opinion since it was recomended by the guys in the know why not go for it.
I like the new 2.61 radio.
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I couldnt wait for the answers (tipically me) tooked the risk and I flashed with T-mobile ROM with IPL/SPL v2.26.
It's working fine at this moment.
Changing subject, Im using Cingular 2.25.11 radio and works fine too.
Can you tell me why you like 2.61 radio?
Wich radio were you using before the upgrade?
Paulo

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computer9cowboy said:
I have a mini s and I used the Tmobile rom to get my IPL/SPL up to 2.26 with no problems. I figure there must be some good code behind the version numbers so why not upgrade? In my opinion since it was recomended by the guys in the know why not go for it.
I like the new 2.61 radio.
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I couldnt wait for the answers (tipically me) tooked the risk and I flashed with T-mobile ROM with IPL/SPL v2.26.
It's working fine at this moment.
Changing subject, Im using Cingular 2.25.11 radio and works fine too.
Can you tell me why you like 2.61 radio?
Wich radio were you using before the upgrade?
Paulo

polaco1977 said:
I couldnt wait for the answers (tipically me) tooked the risk and I flashed with T-mobile ROM with IPL/SPL v2.26.
It's working fine at this moment.
Changing subject, Im using Cingular 2.25.11 radio and works fine too.
Can you tell me why you like 2.61 radio?
Wich radio were you using before the upgrade?
Paulo
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I was using 2.25.11
2.61 shows better performance (speed) downloading and uploading over EDGE.
I live in rural Vermont USA and I can get 140kbps / 40kbps at my house. It used to be 110/30

computer9cowboy said:
I was using 2.25.11
2.61 shows better performance (speed) downloading and uploading over EDGE.
I live in rural Vermont USA and I can get 140kbps / 40kbps at my house. It used to be 110/30
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Where did you find it? I have downloaded it from the thread RADIO ROM 2.61.11
It´s been hosting by Rapishare and the file calls REAL_RADIO_2.61.11
Do you have another link where can I download it?
Can you send me a pm?
Paulo