Hello,
I have an Xda2s that has no service (no telephone signal reception) post an upgrade. I have since upgraded the radio stack (3 times upto to 15 and back down to 12) and have installed lots of different ROMs (including wm5 and wm2003) from different manufactures. All with the same result, no service.
Wireless LAN and bluetooth seem OK and I've treid 2 differnt sims, albeit both on o2. I also get all the correct information displayed on the boot screen - GSM looks ok.
Is it just spooky timing that the phone has broken? It has had a hard life and rattles a bit. Is there any final checks I can do before either sending it for repair or selling it on? Is there and aerial that can come loose?
Can anyone reconmend a repairer, should one be required?
Can I ask anymore questions in one thread.................
Thanks
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Hi
New owner of this Tytn II and have a few questions I hope someone in here could answer.
I've got the following versions: (is this all the latest ones?)
rom 1.56.409.4
radio 1.27.12.11
protocol 22.45.88.07w
The device is bought and used in Norway. It's a clean HTC, no telco branding.
1)
I can't remove the cover on the back to remove the battery to get my serial number. The reason is that I'm afraid to harm the phone while putting too much pressure on it. And believe me, I'm using a lot of force to try to open it.
It's not put on wrong, since there is no glitches and everything seems ok.
So, is there a way to get the serial number via software or something?
2)
Signal strength on wifi is incredible low.
And yes I've tried to use it both with powersaving and maximum effect.
I'm standing 2 meters away from my linksys router and it tells me that I've got 80% strength. If I turn around, getting my body in the middle, it drops to 25%. Going 4-5 meters away, free sight, it's around 50%
This is a joke right? Must be a software bug I hope. Or a serious hardware bug or too protected internal antennas?
Any clue on this one?
My ipaq hx4700 is way better on wifi then this, getting 100% all the way in my house.
3)
Is there a way to use MSN with the wifi connection and not only use the 3G connection?
That's it this time.
I'll just dive into the forum even more to find other usefull hints.
(Yes I've searched for answers to my questions)
Wifi range of this device has never been marvelous (but still better than on my old hermes). I get 50% being at 3 meters of the AP (which is behind a wall).
Your version seems to be slightly nwer than mine; I have a 1.56.405.5 (Default HTC QWERTY English)
And finaly, WLM works fine through wifi
Thank you.
Well, too bad the wifi is so bad but nothing to do with it.
And yes, I got the IM working over wifi now, setting all applications that needs to go online to use the work network profile instead of the telco network.
Anything on the serial number or do I have to crack open the device? hehe
Does anyone have this problem ?
Connect IE via yr mobile EDGE service..for my case is Digi in Malaysia. The first few mins or pages..it works fine..Right after that IE cannot reach any pages and time out.. All the while the "E" for data services is still connected. Brought it back to HTC service centre...they tested 1 week , change 2 mother boards and swap one new unit...still the same issue..Its not sim issue as my connection does not break in other phones. Issue prevails in Google Maps, MSN Messenger and Shape Service IM+. If anyone knows a fix...pls help as I dunno what to do with an expensive phone that cannot sustain connection over EDGE or GPRS
Thanks
Have you flashed your rom to a different one other than stock? what about the radio, which version are you using, is it stock?
I would lean towards a radio issue or the edge service sucks.
i do know that on my older 8125 (wizard) that after about 3 days of being in constant connection i would get the same problem, but all i would have to do is disconnect form it and reconnect and it would be fine again for a long wile.
Hi pdpt,
Yes I have flashed to many ROM's and Radio including, Stock, Dutty's, Sleuth, Vega, No thrills, SNE, Alex while RADIO ROMS for WM6 and 6.1 including Nikki's , Polaris etc etc. Unfortunately all results the same. Have also tried manual connection setup, Kaiser Tweak (Edge always on) disabling the 3G portion, diabling HSDPA but those only saves batt drainag.
My previous Dopod 838Pro and the HTC Touch doesnt have this issue. Its only confined to Tytn II.
You state you've flashed to many ROM's. Have you flashed back to a stock ROM from ATT or HTC? Can make all the difference.
yes of course i did flashed back to original. the new unit i got back was also stock
cmloo said:
for my case is Digi in Malaysia.
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well i dont know much about the edge service in Malaysia but before i say its borked try getting a new sim card. if that doesnt work im going to say that there might be something wrong with the unit itself esp if the sim card works in another phone and you can surf the internet with no problem.
Hello to all!
First I want to notice that I'm smartphone / ppc user for more than 3 years so I think I have good experience. Before posting I spent hours and days trying to find solution for my problem.
Second, my device info (when I bought it)
SWISSCOM XPA v1405
ROM: 1.14.166.1
Radio: 1.05.02.00
BREE100
IPL- 0.90
SPL-2.05 (Now SPL-1.9.0000)
CID-VODAP110 (info 2, HTCSVODAP110IqpÞHTCE)
Now, problem description:
Last week I bought two mobile phones Swisscom XPA 1405 (one for me and second for my colleague who is newbie in world of windows smart phones).
Since I bought them I realized that one of them often search for network when network signal is not EXCELLENT. At the same place one have signal second don't have or signal, or signal is poor, no bars, just one signal dot and provider name can be seen on display. Also I wasn't able to switch band to GSM or when I switch it to GSM device freezes. After that when I turn on phone again I don't have any signal.
I tried to solve problem with refreshing original Swisscom firmware - I found link in one thread from this site (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=395426)
But after that nothing good happens, radio version is newer but signal is still very poor.
After that i tried flashin my phone with other radio roms I found on this site. I was able to install only two versions
Radio Update: Radio Only 1.38 Radio Only 1.54.30.10 (I found those links in section for FutureShock's WM 6.1). When I try to install any other radio I often receive error invalid id etc. I must notice that I used SPL 7.77 and that my phone was application unlocked before I attempted to flash it (all steps for unlocking was passed successfully).
One more notice: phone is in very good condition, so I think that my problem is not hardware related.
I don't have idea what else I can do. maybe to copy whole radio & OS rom from second device which is working excellent?? Is there way to do that? I read about that for other devices but I don't know how to do it for my phone. Is that safe to do?
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I bought phones from guy who sells second hand phones. I have only his number, which now is not available, so I couldn't return my phone
Yes I'm fool but I must live with it. Now I hope I will find solution, with your help, for my problem or my phone will gather dust in the box waiting to be dissembled for spare parts =================================================================
Thank you in advance and best regards!!!
maybe your phone have some hardware problems! repair it !
so here is the deal.
I am on my third tilt from AT&T. The first phone the receptions sucked they said it was fine... I do everything to try and fix, ROMs, radio etc... etc... finally i got an external antenna, it was passable. My son then started working and Best Buy mobile and said this phone is not normal push it... so I did.
Short story they sent me another phone (warranty). This phone seemed a little better receptions etc... so I reconnect to all the corporate stuff (email etc.) and add just a few utilities to manage
- Kaiser Tweaks
- SKTools
- HTC plugin
Seems ok couple months pass and I notice same poor reception... eventually the only solution is to leave the connector for the external attenna on the phone to improve reception. this sucks as I walk around with extra wire on the phone but hey it works...
just two days ago I again tire of this and do battle with AT&T and they send me another replacement... lo and behold the reception is better (two bars in my house, one in basement.. I am happy right... yup.
So i go through the process of reconfig... setup..install and since my office is in the basement reconnect external attenna (to get 4 bars).
Guess what by the next morning phone is performing exactly like the others.
This leaves me with two possible logical assumptions
1. Somehow the use of an external antenna is impacting the phone (changing sensitivity, radio, etc.)
2. the install of Kaiser, or SK or other utilities (again nothing dramatic) is making a registry change which impacts peformance.
Additional info
After poor performance I hard reset - no impact
On Windows Mobile 6.1 Build 5.2.19214
ROM 3.57.502.2
Radio 1.65.21.18
Prot 25.88.40.05H
Thoughts?
I beleive you are right.. I have read numberous posts that after you plug something into the external cell antenna port, you will never get" good" reception again.. That is why it is covered on the batterydoor (nor like the gps one)... Just thought you might want to know...
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so here is the deal.
I am on my third tilt from AT&T. The first phone the receptions sucked they said it was fine... I do everything to try and fix, ROMs, radio etc... etc... finally i got an external antenna, it was passable. My son then started working and Best Buy mobile and said this phone is not normal push it... so I did.
Short story they sent me another phone (warranty). This phone seemed a little better receptions etc... so I reconnect to all the corporate stuff (email etc.) and add just a few utilities to manage
- Kaiser Tweaks
- SKTools
- HTC plugin
Seems ok couple months pass and I notice same poor reception... eventually the only solution is to leave the connector for the external attenna on the phone to improve reception. this sucks as I walk around with extra wire on the phone but hey it works...
just two days ago I again tire of this and do battle with AT&T and they send me another replacement... lo and behold the reception is better (two bars in my house, one in basement.. I am happy right... yup.
So i go through the process of reconfig... setup..install and since my office is in the basement reconnect external attenna (to get 4 bars).
Guess what by the next morning phone is performing exactly like the others.
This leaves me with two possible logical assumptions
1. Somehow the use of an external antenna is impacting the phone (changing sensitivity, radio, etc.)
2. the install of Kaiser, or SK or other utilities (again nothing dramatic) is making a registry change which impacts peformance.
Additional info
After poor performance I hard reset - no impact
On Windows Mobile 6.1 Build 5.2.19214
ROM 3.57.502.2
Radio 1.65.21.18
Prot 25.88.40.05H
Thoughts?
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no acknowledgement
that has been my thinking which is why I was posting here to see if there was any knowledge or experience.. I pushed this issue with ATT support but surprisingingly they said not only was there not an issue but should not be an issue with using and external antenna. I would have thought they might try to use it as a warranty issue...
The antenna is useful both for office (basement) and travel as it really improves sustaining connections on long drives (data/voice).
I would think that if the issue was out there it would surface.
I too have had on/off reception on the Kaiser. It has to be a hardware issue because the true reception is grand. I have moments in time versus location where it will refuse to call out, receive calls or send/rec text messages. Then 5-20+ minutes go by and I find I missed calls, txt's, etc. I would reboot it, reset it, etc and it will always do it. I can use any other phone on the same provider and always have a perfect signal in the same location. Kaiser will even display a full signal in the bar and still nothing. Yesterday for example (I live in Las Vegas), I drove from one end of town to the other. The entire trip, the phone would not work. It drove me nuts because I was trying to call someone who was trying hard to get into touch with me. It started causing panic in the other person because they couldn't reach me and I couldn't call them. It is just a repetitive headache.
I have had the phone for about a year now (maybe a little longer). Just like you, in the beginning it worked great! Then over time it seems to get worse and worse. I *don't* use an external antenna so I think the phone goes to crap no matter what. Maybe its a resource issue. Over time the performance of reception has gotten worse, but of course over time I have done more and more to the phone. The phone seems just about fine in speed for everything else (at least it performs how I'd expect it to)....but maybe the phone/messaging software side of things sees something else on the backend that I don't.
I have WM 6.0, and was thinking 6.1 might fix it, but based on your review I will save myself the headache of upgrading at one of the stores since it won't change a thing. I am horribly displeased with this phone.
Tilt Antenna connectors
I thought I was smart, but got the two external antena connectors confused because when I upgraded from 8525 to Tilt, the CELLULAR adapter for the 8525 is the same as the GPS adapter for Tilt, and the HTC cell connector for tilt is different from that of the 8525. Not only no standardation, but no instructions to keep one from wandering down the obvious but wrong path. Spent more than a year trying to figure out why Yagi antenna, which performed well with the 8525, didn't work on the Tilt. Didn't hurt the GPS unit though which is a miracle. Does anyone know the specs on the TILT Cell antenna connector???
I have an AT&T Tilt, and I ran the unlocker on it.
Recently I installed the TPC V11 Chumpstyle rom which is a 6.5 rom. Things seemed fine on it for the first couple days but then I noticed it was constantly disconnecting without notice from the service. Texts would randomly stop going through, and when I would go to make a call, it would end the call after about 10 seconds of unsuccessful dialing. Same with the data.. no browser would work.
I decided to try out different radios and different SPLs, even mirroring peoples setups which I assume were working since they have them in their sig lines.
These are the combinations I have tried:
HardSPL 3.29
USED:
1.70.19.09 - Intermittent. Only gets off 4-5 text messages before disconnect.
1.65.21.18 - No 3G connection
1.71.09.01 - No Service
1.70.18.02 - Intermittent disconnect
1.65.17.54 - Long connection time after startup - refuses to connect
HardSPL 3.56
USED:
1.64.08.21 - 4 minute connection time on startup, camera doesn't work
1.71.09.01 - No Service
1.70.19.09 - Intermittent disconnect
1.70.18.02 - No Service
HardSPL 3.34 Dave
USED:
1.70.18.02 - No Service
1.70.19.09 - Intermittent
What surprises and annoys me most is right now I have the stock rom/radio
Rom: 3.57.502.2
Radio: 1.65.21.18
and it does the same exact thing. It is very intermittent, works for 5 minutes after startup, and then nothing.
Nothing on the forum I have been able to search has helped me with this issue, and any help anyone can offer would be greatly appreciated.
one more thing comes to mind that might be worth a shot...
try to disable the 3G/HSDPA mode altogether and configure the device for plain GSM mode only. see how that fairs with the stock configuration or any of the "recommended" combinations of SPL and radio.
ASC - thanks for the reply. I am not certain how to disable 3g/hsdpa modes. I'll look around to figure it out and then post my results here.
Thanks again
It seems that the edge still connects, but I am having the same issues. Just randomly stops all connection
This is the same issues mine developed within the last month. No luck yet tho.
robseargeant said:
This is the same issues mine developed within the last month. No luck yet tho.
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Just lovely. I really would like a way to fix it. I don't plan on paying 125.00 for the insurance costs to get a new one, and really don't want to spend 300.00 on a TP2.
Thanks for your post, keep me updated if possible!
After looking at some of the newer thread posts, I think I may have a hardware issue here. Anyone able to tell offhand whether it isn't or if it could be, and/or if it is possible to fix?
I swapped out my motherboard with a friends who had given me thiers last year due to a broke screen. I did a Sprite back up and everything has been good for 24 hours.
Hey I think I have a similiar problem
2 weeks ago I was home and just lost service while the rest of my family and i usually had serivice. I would get service occasionally but only for 30 seconds or so and maybe like once every 15 minutes.
So I went back to school and for 2 straight weeks I had absolutely no problems.. and now I'm home again and I have the same problem..
Also last night I started using an old RAZR and it worked fine untill this afternoon seems to be acting the same, but when I went to ATT last time I was given a new SIM card...
Really weird.
I went through the SIM card swap as well. From what rob said it sounds like a hardware issue. Bad batch of AT&T Tilts all going bad around the same time?
I used advanced config to shut off data connections and then set my band to GSM and mine works fine now..
I just did the same using Advanced Config. I'll see what happens. I have no "Band" setting tab.
Did that help mini... after i did that mine "kinda" worked but then when i switched the band it worked perfect. I think you might have do so something in advanced to get the band tab to appear in "Connections." Ill try to figure out what I did
Try to see if you have the "Band" tab under "Phone", sorry it's not under connections, its right after network. I I switched network type from auto to GSM. If the page isnt there in advanced config under phones there is an option to "Show Band Page"
Also same intermittant issue w HSDPA
All,
My rom (Athene) has a setting under connections to disable HSDPA. I've found the phone works pretty well with HSDPA disconnected. I've also tried different radios and still having the same problem.
My assumption is that the TILT (8925) was never really designed for HSDPA or that the spec has changed since AT*T has started implementing it.
When I have HSDPA turned on, it works for about 2-5 mins then I cannot use Medianet or make/receive calls.
However, I know that HSDPA is working sometimes, because I did a speed test and found that I got approx 450kbps w/ HSDPA turned on. With EDGE, I only get 140-150kbps.
I say we all petition AT&T (or whoever your provider is) as well as HTC and require that they provide us with new versions of the TILT that actually support HSDPA properly. Obviously, if that many of us have the same problem and we all have different rom's and radios, it's got to be a network or hardware issue.
I plan to call / write ATT & HTC today. I'll let you know my findings.
Regards,
Austin
It's definitely got to be HTC/AT&T's fault. This is no coincidence. This is bs.
Well, I just got off the phone with Asurion and I have some good news.
As the Kaiser is no longer manufactured, and the HTC Fuze replacement they offered me does not fit my needs, they are replacing my Kaiser with a brand new Rhodium with a 12 month warranty. Farewell, Kaiser forum!