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Hello everybody !!
I just spent about 28 hours reading the threads in order to change my GERMAN O2 XDA MINI S (Wizard) ROM. Into an english one.
For that matter I know I need to unlock my CID, but since i have the latest ROM installed, IPL 2.21.001 and SPL 2.21.001 Lockwiz won't work !!!!
so I tried to Downgrade my Rom in order to make the Lockwiz work, but I am not able to find a suiting German Rom anywhere on the Net.
So I was wondering if nebody would be kind enough to tell me where to find and older German ROM or how I can avoid DOWNGRADING and simply unlock my CID
best regards ... Bayardo
I3aYardo said:
Hello everybody !!
I just spent about 28 hours reading the threads in order to change my GERMAN O2 XDA MINI S (Wizard) ROM. Into an english one.
For that matter I know I need to unlock my CID, but since i have the latest ROM installed, IPL 2.21.001 and SPL 2.21.001 Lockwiz won't work !!!!
so I tried to Downgrade my Rom in order to make the Lockwiz work, but I am not able to find a suiting German Rom anywhere on the Net.
So I was wondering if nebody would be kind enough to tell me where to find and older German ROM or how I can avoid DOWNGRADING and simply unlock my CID
best regards ... Bayardo
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Since you have a G4 boot chip (the tailing .001 in IPL and SPL tells that) you CANNOT downgrade your ROM to 1.x version.
DO NOT TRY INSTALLING A 1.X ROM: YOU'LL BRICK YOUR PPC!!! DO NOT FOLLOW FARIA's PROCEDURE TO CID UNLOCK 2.X PHONES: IT WON'T WORK IN YOUR CASE ('cos you've got a G4 boot chip).
This means that you will NOT be able to CID/SIM unlock your phone with lokiwiz 0.2b (however you can still use lokiwiz 0.3a to SIM unlock it, but no CID unlock).
But don't despair, you CAN still change your phone language and install whatever 2.x rom you like. The procedure to follow, however, is a bit different: you cannot simply download a rom you like and install it, you'll need to hack it a little first, but the results will be the same!
Basically, all you have to do is get the ROM you like (only 2.xx ROM!!!) and remove from it the IPL/SPL part. Then, you have to flash this 'hacked' rom using a slightly modified ROM Upgrade Utility (i can provide it to you if you want). With this method you're not going to replace the IPL/SPL (bootloader) of your phone so you don't need to CID unlock it (which, at the time i'm writing, is impossible).
To remove IPL/SPL from your ROM you have to extract the file nk.nbf from the ROM and get its content with typho5 tool (search this forum to have more info). Then you have to reassemble a new nk.nbf using nb2nbf. The new nk.nbf, of course, must NOT contain the IPL/SPL parts.
If you prefer, you can tell me what ROM are you interested in and i'll do the dirty work for you. Just let me know.
Bye
Basically, all you have to do is get the ROM you like (only 2.xx ROM!!!) and remove from it the IPL/SPL part. Then, you have to flash this 'hacked' rom using a slightly modified ROM Upgrade Utility (i can provide it to you if you want). With this method you're not going to replace the IPL/SPL (bootloader) of your phone so you don't need to CID unlock it (which, at the time i'm writing, is impossible).
To remove IPL/SPL from your ROM you have to extract the file nk.nbf from the ROM and get its content with typho5 tool (search this forum to have more info). Then you have to reassemble a new nk.nbf using nb2nbf. The new nk.nbf, of course, must NOT contain the IPL/SPL parts.
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I would be very thankful if you could post a link or send me the ROM upgrade Utility needed
best regards
Bayardo
risidoro said:
I3aYardo said:
Hello everybody !!
I just spent about 28 hours reading the threads in order to change my GERMAN O2 XDA MINI S (Wizard) ROM. Into an english one.
For that matter I know I need to unlock my CID, but since i have the latest ROM installed, IPL 2.21.001 and SPL 2.21.001 Lockwiz won't work !!!!
so I tried to Downgrade my Rom in order to make the Lockwiz work, but I am not able to find a suiting German Rom anywhere on the Net.
So I was wondering if nebody would be kind enough to tell me where to find and older German ROM or how I can avoid DOWNGRADING and simply unlock my CID
best regards ... Bayardo
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Since you have a G4 boot chip (the tailing .001 in IPL and SPL tells that) you CANNOT downgrade your ROM to 1.x version.
DO NOT TRY INSTALLING A 1.X ROM: YOU'LL BRICK YOUR PPC!!! DO NOT FOLLOW FARIA's PROCEDURE TO CID UNLOCK 2.X PHONES: IT WON'T WORK IN YOUR CASE ('cos you've got a G4 boot chip).
This means that you will NOT be able to CID/SIM unlock your phone with lokiwiz 0.2b (however you can still use lokiwiz 0.3a to SIM unlock it, but no CID unlock).
But don't despair, you CAN still change your phone language and install whatever 2.x rom you like. The procedure to follow, however, is a bit different: you cannot simply download a rom you like and install it, you'll need to hack it a little first, but the results will be the same!
Basically, all you have to do is get the ROM you like (only 2.xx ROM!!!) and remove from it the IPL/SPL part. Then, you have to flash this 'hacked' rom using a slightly modified ROM Upgrade Utility (i can provide it to you if you want). With this method you're not going to replace the IPL/SPL (bootloader) of your phone so you don't need to CID unlock it (which, at the time i'm writing, is impossible).
To remove IPL/SPL from your ROM you have to extract the file nk.nbf from the ROM and get its content with typho5 tool (search this forum to have more info). Then you have to reassemble a new nk.nbf using nb2nbf. The new nk.nbf, of course, must NOT contain the IPL/SPL parts.
If you prefer, you can tell me what ROM are you interested in and i'll do the dirty work for you. Just let me know.
Bye
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Hi risidoro,
I am trying upgrade my O2 German Wizrad G4 version into WWE, I followed your instruction & has used nb2nbf to compile a 2.xx rom without IPL & SPL. When I used the update utility to falsh the Wizard, the utility said something like: Error, this update utility is not for your device. etc.
I think I need to used your modified update utility , can you send it to me?
Also my other question is, when I use nb2nbf , what should I put in the model id for my German Wizard?
You advice can help me & many others to solve our headache in upgrading a G4 Rom! Cheers!
phone_one said:
Hi risidoro,
I am trying upgrade my O2 German Wizrad G4 version into WWE, I followed your instruction & has used nb2nbf to compile a 2.xx rom without IPL & SPL. When I used the update utility to falsh the Wizard, the utility said something like: Error, this update utility is not for your device. etc.
I think I need to used your modified update utility , can you send it to me?
Also my other question is, when I use nb2nbf , what should I put in the model id for my German Wizard?
You advice can help me & many others to solve our headache in upgrading a G4 Rom! Cheers!
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The modified RUU (ROM Update Utility) is attached.
For ModelID you can use both WIZARD or Prodigy (i used the former).
risidoro said:
Since you have a G4 boot chip (the tailing .001 in IPL and SPL tells that) you CANNOT downgrade your ROM to 1.x version.
DO NOT TRY INSTALLING A 1.X ROM: YOU'LL BRICK YOUR PPC!!! DO NOT FOLLOW FARIA's PROCEDURE TO CID UNLOCK 2.X PHONES: IT WON'T WORK IN YOUR CASE ('cos you've got a G4 boot chip).
This means that you will NOT be able to CID/SIM unlock your phone with lokiwiz 0.2b (however you can still use lokiwiz 0.3a to SIM unlock it, but no CID unlock).
But don't despair, you CAN still change your phone language and install whatever 2.x rom you like. The procedure to follow, however, is a bit different: you cannot simply download a rom you like and install it, you'll need to hack it a little first, but the results will be the same!
Basically, all you have to do is get the ROM you like (only 2.xx ROM!!!) and remove from it the IPL/SPL part. Then, you have to flash this 'hacked' rom using a slightly modified ROM Upgrade Utility (i can provide it to you if you want). With this method you're not going to replace the IPL/SPL (bootloader) of your phone so you don't need to CID unlock it (which, at the time i'm writing, is impossible).
To remove IPL/SPL from your ROM you have to extract the file nk.nbf from the ROM and get its content with typho5 tool (search this forum to have more info). Then you have to reassemble a new nk.nbf using nb2nbf. The new nk.nbf, of course, must NOT contain the IPL/SPL parts.
If you prefer, you can tell me what ROM are you interested in and i'll do the dirty work for you. Just let me know.
Bye
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sorry to hijack your thread,
just wanted to ask a short question.
if my info is as below:
US T-mobile MDA Vario
IPL 1.03
SPL 1.06
GSM 01.12.10
OS 1.3.13.5
ROM version: 1.3.13.5 ENU
ROM date: 9/29/05
Radio version: 01.12.10
Protocol version: 4.0.13.23
ExtROM: 1.3.13.116
OS 5.1.70(build 14406.1.1.1)
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does this mean that its on a G3 chip and that i can use lokiwiz03a to CID unlock it and upload any 2.x ROM as i please? and downgrade the ROMs too?
@Bola: you have a 1.x ROM so you can CID unlock your phone with Lokiwiz0.2b (NOT 0.3a). Then you'll be able to install whichever ROM you like.
Bye
I've just published a tutorial that can help those with a G4 or G3 (>= 2.21) CID-Locked device to install whichever 2.x ROM they like.
The tutorial is here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=56088
Bye
risidoro said:
@Bola: you have a 1.x ROM so you can CID unlock your phone with Lokiwiz0.2b (NOT 0.3a). Then you'll be able to install whichever ROM you like.
Bye
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thanks risidoro.
i'll give it a go later.
there wont be any issue downgrading the ROM later would there?
eg if i were to install:
RUU_Wizard_2211301_22113102_021911_DOP_ASIA_WWE_Ship.exe
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and later back to
RUU_Prodigy_1060701_101_11310_QTEK_WWE_Ship.exe ?
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oh, the bootloader (IPL/SPL) doesnt get upgraded either when i upgrade, would it?
oh thank for the help risidoro.
i saw your post after i uploaded mine.
read through your tutorial and i figured that both IPL / SPL will get updated
people like you makes this site great
thanks once again.
Hi,
a few days ago i wrote on this forum that i had been able to install an italian ROM on a G4, CID-Locked Wizard. Since then, i've received several mails and PM from users asking me how i did. Instead of replying each one, i though it was better to write a tutorial and post it here for everyone to read/comment/correct it.
Here it is. Together with the tools you'll need to perform the update.
PS: in this tutorial i'm not explaining how to CID-UNlock a G4 or G3 (>= 2.21) phone. There is not yet a way to CID unlock these phones. I'm just describing how to circumvent the CID-lock problem by installing a ROM deprived of the IPL and SPL parts.
DISCLAIMER: THE PROCEDURE I’M GOING TO EXPLAIN DEALS WITH ROM ‘COOKING’ AND THUS IT MAY CAUSE SEVERE DATA LOSS OR EVEN IRREMEDIABLY DAMAGE YOUR DEVICE!
THE AUTHOR, NOR EVERY OTHER PERSON INVOLVED (E.G. THE ROM TOOLS DEVELOPERS), SHALL NOT BE HELD RESPONSIBLE FOR ANY MALFUNCTIONS OR DAMAGES THIS PROCEDURE MAY CAUSE.
By following this tutorial, you're removing both the bootloaders (IPL and SPL) from a rom of your choice. This means that, if you don't make errors while 'cooking' the rom, you cannot completely destroy (brick) your phone. Sure, you could end up with a non-booting rom but, as long as you can get to the three colors screen (the bootloader screen) you'll always be able to install a different (or your previous) working rom.
On the other hand, messing with IPL and SPL (i.e. installing a rom containing IPL and SPL in a CID locked device) is EXTREMELY DANGEROUS and MUST be avoided in most cases!!!
Installing a 2.xx rom without messing with your phone's IPL and SPL is exactly what this tutorial tries to explain.
NEVER INSTALL ROMS OR FOLLOW TUTORIALS IF YOU'RE NOT SURE OF WHAT YOU'RE DOING!!!
ALWAYS ASK BEFORE PROCEEDING! A SIMPLE QUESTION MAY SAVE YOUR PHONE FROM DEATH!
Worked perfect!
Thank you very much for the clear explanation!!! 8)
HI,
Have I to introduce on nb2nbf SW the ITA language without CID??
squarna said:
HI,
Have I to introduce on nb2nbf SW the ITA language without CID??
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Leave the CID field empty and specify the language you're installing (ITA for italian, WWE for english).
Hi,
I have installed this SW on my MDA T-mobile:
IPL:2.21.0001
SPL:2.21.0001
GSM:2.19.11
OS:2.21.2.6
EXROM:2.21.2.109
What is the best Italian ROM to flash inside?
squarna said:
Hi,
I have installed this SW on my MDA T-mobile:
IPL:2.21.0001
SPL:2.21.0001
GSM:2.19.11
OS:2.21.2.6
EXROM:2.21.2.109
What is the best Italian ROM to flash inside?
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This is quite Off Topic here, anyway you can use K-Jam 2.18 italian ROM (find it here: ftp://ftp.clubimate.com/K-JAM_ITA_2180901_21809104_20710_ship.zip)
German to WWE
Worked perfect, no glitches! Thanks for the help!
So is there any issues with using a mismatched ipl/spl bootloader on my G4 equipped O2 mini S?
I really want to install Mr. Clean's Clean ROM, but i am afraid of bricking it.
I have done ROm upgrades before by CID unlocking my old Qtek9100 G3 (but my foolish friend dropped it into a cup of coffeee and killed it).
I will admit, the Mr. CLean Rom was WAY faster than my OE 2.21 ROm on my O2.
Is there anyway to go back and uninstall? Ie. download rom from O2 website to restore it?
REgards,
ED
minirx7 said:
So is there any issues with using a mismatched ipl/spl bootloader on my G4 equipped O2 mini S?
I really want to install Mr. Clean's Clean ROM, but i am afraid of bricking it.
I have done ROm upgrades before by CID unlocking my old Qtek9100 G3 (but my foolish friend dropped it into a cup of coffeee and killed it).
I will admit, the Mr. CLean Rom was WAY faster than my OE 2.21 ROm on my O2.
Is there anyway to go back and uninstall? Ie. download rom from O2 website to restore it?
REgards,
ED
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You CAN install MrClean AKU2.3 ROM BUT only if you first modify it following my guide: you cannot touch the IPL/SPL parts!!!
There are two reasons for not installing the original, unmodified MrClean ROM:
1) G4 phones cannot be CID unlocked. This means that you can replace their original IPL/SPL ONLY with a newer version made by the very same operator: e.g. if you have a 2.21 WWE T-mobile ROM then you can ONLY update this rom with a version > 2.21 made by T-mobile!!! You CANNOT use any other language nor any other operator's ROMs (cingular's, qtek's, etc).
2) MrClean ROM, as all the other home made ROMs you'll find in this forum, can be installed ONLY in G3 models because it contains only IPL and SPL version 1.0 (G4 phones need version 2.0)
Basically then, you have only 3 choices:
a) Follow my tutorial and be able to install every 2.x ROM you like (both stock ROMs and home made ones, every language, every operator). The only limitation is that you cannot install 1.x ROMs!
b) Install ONLY ROMs that are the OFFICIAL update to the one you have currently installed (e.g. if you have cingular 2.25 WWE rom then you'll be able to update it only when and if, a new, official, wwe, cingular ROM will be released). You won't be able to install a different language ROM nor a ROM made by a different operator, nor a home made ROM (like MrClean).
c) you can CID unlock your G4 wizard using some online service but: it will cost you money and you won't still be able to install home-made ROM 'cos they contain only IPL/SPL version 1.0 (you'll still need IPL/SPL version 2.0)
That said, i strongly suggest you solution (a)! It's free, it's very simple (it may seem complex but after the first time it'll be straight forward), it's the safest (because you don't replace the boot loader IPL and SPL) and it let you install whichever 2.x ROM you like!
Bye
Thank you risidoro,
Yes, i do realize the G4 IPL/SPL must not be altered to prevent from bricking the device.
I will try the Mr. Clean ROM tonight using your tutorial. I guess my only question is, will there be an issue using a 2.21 G4 IPL SPL on a 2.24ROM?
DOes the bootloader actual change with new ROMS?
risidoro said:
minirx7 said:
So is there any issues with using a mismatched ipl/spl bootloader on my G4 equipped O2 mini S?
I really want to install Mr. Clean's Clean ROM, but i am afraid of bricking it.
I have done ROm upgrades before by CID unlocking my old Qtek9100 G3 (but my foolish friend dropped it into a cup of coffeee and killed it).
I will admit, the Mr. CLean Rom was WAY faster than my OE 2.21 ROm on my O2.
Is there anyway to go back and uninstall? Ie. download rom from O2 website to restore it?
REgards,
ED
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You CAN install MrClean AKU2.3 ROM BUT only if you first modify it following my guide: you cannot touch the IPL/SPL parts!!!
There are two reasons for not installing the original, unmodified MrClean ROM:
1) G4 phones cannot be CID unlocked. This means that you can replace their original IPL/SPL ONLY with a newer version made by the very same operator: e.g. if you have a 2.21 WWE T-mobile ROM then you can ONLY update this rom with a version > 2.21 made by T-mobile!!! You CANNOT use any other language nor any other operator's ROMs (cingular's, qtek's, etc).
2) MrClean ROM, as all the other home made ROMs you'll find in this forum, can be installed ONLY in G3 models because it contains only IPL and SPL version 1.0 (G4 phones need version 2.0)
Basically then, you have only 3 choices:
a) Follow my tutorial and be able to install every 2.x ROM you like (both stock ROMs and home made ones, every language, every operator). The only limitation is that you cannot install 1.x ROMs!
b) Install ONLY ROMs that are the OFFICIAL update to the one you have currently installed (e.g. if you have cingular 2.25 WWE rom then you'll be able to update it only when and if, a new, official, wwe, cingular ROM will be released). You won't be able to install a different language ROM nor a ROM made by a different operator, nor a home made ROM (like MrClean).
c) you can CID unlock your G4 wizard using some online service but: it will cost you money and you won't still be able to install home-made ROM 'cos they contain only IPL/SPL version 1.0 (you'll still need IPL/SPL version 2.0)
That said, i strongly suggest you solution (a)! It's free, it's very simple (it may seem complex but after the first time it'll be straight forward), it's the safest (because you don't replace the boot loader IPL and SPL) and it let you install whichever 2.x ROM you like!
Bye
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minirx7 said:
Thank you risidoro,
Yes, i do realize the G4 IPL/SPL must not be altered to prevent from bricking the device.
I will try the Mr. Clean ROM tonight using your tutorial. I guess my only question is, will there be an issue using a 2.21 G4 IPL SPL on a 2.24ROM?
DOes the bootloader actual change with new ROMS?
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Bootloader and ROM version numbers usually are the same (so ROM 2.24 should have IPL/SPL 2.24) but they can be different. I've used IPL/SPL 2.21.001 with both 2.18 and 2.24 ROMs.
Maybe newer ROMs, greater than 2.24, will require an updated IPL/SPL so you'll be obliged to CID unlock your phone. By then however, i hope there'll be a free CID unlocking tool for G4.
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Thank you risidoro!! I was regretting getting my O2 miniS G4, in place of my broken Qtek 9100 G3.
I will give it a shot tonight. I noticed that the 2.24 ROM was much faster when I used it on my Qtek, over any other ROM.
Regards
risidoro said:
minirx7 said:
Thank you risidoro,
Yes, i do realize the G4 IPL/SPL must not be altered to prevent from bricking the device.
I will try the Mr. Clean ROM tonight using your tutorial. I guess my only question is, will there be an issue using a 2.21 G4 IPL SPL on a 2.24ROM?
DOes the bootloader actual change with new ROMS?
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Bootloader and ROM version numbers usually are the same (so ROM 2.24 should have IPL/SPL 2.24) but they can be different. I've used IPL/SPL 2.21.001 with both 2.18 and 2.24 ROMs.
Maybe newer ROMs, greater than 2.24, will require an updated IPL/SPL so you'll be obliged to CID unlock your phone. By then however, i hope there'll be a free CID unlocking tool for G4.
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THANK YOU THANK YOU!!!
I HAVE SUCCESSFULLY INSTALLED MR. CLEAN 2.24A ON MY G4 DEVICE!!!!
THe ROM is so much faster and smoother than the OE 2.21 ROM!!! tahnks again!
risidoro did you SIM unlock your G4 phone ? If yes what tool and version did you use to do that ?
jeegnesh said:
risidoro did you SIM unlock your G4 phone ? If yes what tool and version did you use to do that ?
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My two phones were both factory simunlocked but i heard that some people is successfully using LokiwizMSL 0.3a to sim unlock G4 wizards.
Just follow the author's instruction. The procedure is staightforward.
Find it here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=50768&highlight=lokiwiz
Bye
Thanks for the superfast reply, actually waiting for someone to get me this phone, hopefully this week, wil try it out once I get it.
Using Clean ROM, does it just improve startup time, or does it improve performace of the phone in general ?
Do you have to re-install software after ROM update ?
jeegnesh said:
Thanks for the superfast reply, actually waiting for someone to get me this phone, hopefully this week, wil try it out once I get it.
Using Clean ROM, does it just improve startup time, or does it improve performace of the phone in general ?
Do you have to re-install software after ROM update ?
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Upgrading the OS part of a ROM cause your phone to hard reset, so yes, you'll have to reinstall everything. If, on the other hand, you upgrade any other part (GSM, Splash, ExtROM, HTC) but not the OS then you won't loose your data.
MrClean ROM and Summitter's ROM are both very fast. The latter contains cingular's customizations in extROM (they don't slow down the phone, they're mainly registry settings), some ringtones and compact framework 2.0 in ROM. If you're not a cingular user then i suggest you take the OS part from summitter's rom and the extrom from the MrClean. Then join the two parts with nb2nbf and flash to your device.
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Any reason to take Summitter's OS is it faster or something then Mr Clean ?
jeegnesh said:
Any reason to take Summitter's OS is it faster or something then Mr Clean ?
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No. Both summitter and mrclean use the same OS ROM (2.24.10 AKU2.3) hence they have the SAME, IDENTICAL speed.
The difference is that Summitter manually edited the original ROM and added a lot of ringtones, themes and, most important, the .net compact framework 2.0. If you install Summitter OS, then, you'll have the same mrclean basic OS plus a lot of goodies that don't take any space in storage since they're in ROM (compact framework 2.0 alone would take about 5mb of your precious storage if you installed it on mrclean).
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This thread needs to be a sticky!!
THIS IS NOT A THREAD ON HOW TO UNLOCK YOUR DEVICE
Ok, rather than crapping on Faria's thread, I am going to start a discussion. I am curious about the G4. Yes, I know curiousity killed the cat. So far, reading the forums we have some people with G4's that can upgrade no problem, some that had to CID unlock to get certain roms to load (Faria's), and some that even after CID unlocking the ROMs will not load the extended rom. Personally, I fall in the last category.
Now, here is what had made me curious: So far, most IPL/SPL I have seen posted about is 2.21.0001 for the G4. Mine, on the other hand is 2.25.0001. So, for thos that have G4s, make a post about your IPL/SPL, if you had to CID unlock, HOW you unlocked, and your measure of success. Faria and I were discussing the possiblity that more is tied to the IPL/SPL than on the G3s. Or they are using tighter security. So if we have people with IPLs of 2.21.0001 that can load the full ROM after CID unlocking, and those that have 2.25.0001 that get the OS, but not the extended rom..it gives us a clue.
cptcafne said:
THIS IS NOT A THREAD ON HOW TO UNLOCK YOUR DEVICE
Ok, rather than crapping on Faria's thread, I am going to start a discussion. I am curious about the G4. Yes, I know curiousity killed the cat. So far, reading the forums we have some people with G4's that can upgrade no problem, some that had to CID unlock to get certain roms to load (Faria's), and some that even after CID unlocking the ROMs will not load the extended rom. Personally, I fall in the last category.
Now, here is what had made me curious: So far, most IPL/SPL I have seen posted about is 2.21.0001 for the G4. Mine, on the other hand is 2.25.0001. So, for thos that have G4s, make a post about your IPL/SPL, if you had to CID unlock, HOW you unlocked, and your measure of success. Faria and I were discussing the possiblity that more is tied to the IPL/SPL than on the G3s. Or they are using tighter security. So if we have people with IPLs of 2.21.0001 that can load the full ROM after CID unlocking, and those that have 2.25.0001 that get the OS, but not the extended rom..it gives us a clue.
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I have a G4
I am
IPL 2.17.0001
SPL 2.17.0001
GSM 02.07.10
OS 2.17.7.2
I am still CID locked, and have not attempted to perform any ROM upgrades yet
I want to CID unlock my device so that i can do a rom backup to the SD card before attempting any kind of ROM upgrades.
How did you unlock your G4 device?
d0ug said:
I have a G4
I am
IPL 2.17.0001
SPL 2.17.0001
GSM 02.07.10
OS 2.17.7.2
How did you unlock your G4 device?
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Imei website. search for it
imei did it for me
IPL/SPL = 2.17.0001 which means I have a G4.
I ended up paying for unlocking at the imei website but it did the trick and solved my issues where previously i could only get the Mr Clean ROM upgrade to work. Other ROMs would only update the splash screen and the Extension ROM.
Yesterday I successfully updated to Faria's latest RC1 ROM with no issues.
cptcafne said:
Imei website. search for it
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Thanks, I knew of the site, I just wasnt sure if it was a CID unlock or only SIM unlock. There was a post this morning about it only being a SIM unlock.
I got a CID-LOCKED G4:
IPL 2.21.0001
SPL 2.21.0001
OS 2.26.10.2
GSM 02.25.11
I succesfully installed:
RUU_Molski.Biz_226102_22610105_022511_G4_WWE-30MB
RUU_Molski.Biz_226102_22610105_022511_G4_WWE
Couldn't install:
RUU_Molski.Biz_AKU2.3-226102_22610105_024711_WWE-G4-30MB-CF2
Installer said something about compatibility issues
Didn't dare trying to install Faria new rom yet.
IPL/SPL 2.25.0001
CID locked G4
Extension ROM locked and empty after a failed flash with the official 2.25 ROM on HTC site, can't get anything to install into it. I've since learned to live with it and hope Cingular/HTC will release a newer ROM update that will fix this issue. I'm actually looking into upgrading to a 8525 but those suckers are a bit pricey at the moment so staying with my 8125 for now.
My G4 with bootloader 2.16.0001 had unlock with imei-check.co.uk. You can do it at the same site for 20GBP and U can successfully install any ROM (shipped or custom) without bootloader (I mean IPL/SPL). I recommended to stay in your current latest version of official ROM's bootloader and you will not have any issue.
Nishad
evilito said:
IPL/SPL 2.25.0001
CID locked G4
Extension ROM locked and empty after a failed flash with the official 2.25 ROM on HTC site, can't get anything to install into it. I've since learned to live with it and hope Cingular/HTC will release a newer ROM update that will fix this issue. I'm actually looking into upgrading to a 8525 but those suckers are a bit pricey at the moment so staying with my 8125 for now.
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That is exactly what happened to me!! Tried the HTC rom, and it killed my extended rom. crap. ok so HTC did this to us. I wonder how many other members tried the "official" rom and it crashed, therefore have not been able to get any extended rom loaded.
Same issue here with the extended ROM and 2.25.0001
The shipped ROM for cingular 8125 would fail.
Had to cook my own ROM and manually put the Extended_ROM folder in root and run the AutoRun.exe from phone to load it.
I was trying to find the way, how to cook a ROM, whitch will work on CID-locked Wizards and I thing: On CID locked phones we can flash only ROMs with nono edited os.nb without IPL/SPL
Example:
I have had a 2.21 ROM a I was able to flash 2.26.10.2 ROM without any changes.
If a decrasing the Pagepool, the the ROM was not working on CID locked
cptcafne,
I am sure you have seen my posts in faria's thread, but I will add my woes to this thread as well.
I have a 2.25.0001 G4 Wizard.
After doing the CID Unlocking through IMEI, I attempted to load faria's beta 4 rom. The ext rom has never installed for me. I think I might have tried installing the rom image from the htc website over the rom that shipped since I thought the HTC rom was newer (I was wrong). I belive this locked my ext rom from the get go. After testing it, I wanted to go back to the cingular 2.25 offcial rom to have a stable base to install the RC1. However, I got when re flashing the 2.25 rom I receive the invalid nb.nkf error message.
If Broken has cooked is own extended rom which has worked on his G4, perhaps a seperate G4 ext rom file is the resolution that faria should seek if there is no success in automating the process in the flash.
I wonder if the locking of the ext rom is an HTC or Cingular thing. Either way I wonder if they have the ability to tell us how to unlock the ext rom?
G4 unlocked by IMEI
IPL/SPL 2.16.0001
Radio 2.47.11
ROM 3.0.0.0 WWE
Faria's 8mb ROM installed without any problems (including the ExtROM) been running OK for about a week and only the occasional soft reset.
Installed over wizard Love 2.26 ROM
hello,
G4 Not unlocked :
IPL/SPL 2.17.0001
No rom upgrade possible
G4 2.17.0001
Qtek 9100
IPL/SPL 2.17.0001
CID unlocked by the IMEI UK site.
Running the latest 3.0.0 RC1 Faria ROM - no issues with the upgrade.
Prior to CID unlock I could only upgrade the splash screen and the ExtROM.
I haven't had the nerve to attempt an IPL/SPL upgrade - not even sure what benefits it would bring.
In this thread (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=249359&highlight=unlock+extended+rom) there is a way to unlock the extended Rom. However when I do this, all I see is the cingular ext rom files that are installed during the "customization" process. I am wondering if Cingular is in fact locking the ext rom so that no matter what ROM is flashed the ext rom will always contain the Cingular programs and files that were shipped with the phone.
I have yet to see a user with an IPL/SPL of 2.25.0001 be able to install any ext roms.
Jason
fla242 said:
hello,
G4 Not unlocked :
IPL/SPL 2.17.001
No rom upgrade possible
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are you sure your device is G4????? cuz ipl spl are ends with .001 not .0001
Awais said:
are you sure your device is G4????? cuz ipl spl are ends with .001 not .0001
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Just to clarify, G4 devices have an IPL/SPL of 2.xx.0001. If the IPL/SPL do not appear in that format when you reset your device than you have a G3 device.
jpryor said:
cptcafne,
I am sure you have seen my posts in faria's thread, but I will add my woes to this thread as well.
I have a 2.25.0001 G4 Wizard.
After doing the CID Unlocking through IMEI, I attempted to load faria's beta 4 rom. The ext rom has never installed for me. I think I might have tried installing the rom image from the htc website over the rom that shipped since I thought the HTC rom was newer (I was wrong). I belive this locked my ext rom from the get go. After testing it, I wanted to go back to the cingular 2.25 offcial rom to have a stable base to install the RC1. However, I got when re flashing the 2.25 rom I receive the invalid nb.nkf error message.
If Broken has cooked is own extended rom which has worked on his G4, perhaps a seperate G4 ext rom file is the resolution that faria should seek if there is no success in automating the process in the flash.
I wonder if the locking of the ext rom is an HTC or Cingular thing. Either way I wonder if they have the ability to tell us how to unlock the ext rom?
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Yeah, that is what looks like happened. so far from what I seen on the boards, if someone tried to install the HTC Update and it failed, then the ext rom was locked. or even removed, I am not sure.
Jpryor said:
In this thread (http://forum.xda-developers.com/show...extended+ rom) there is a way to unlock the extended Rom. However when I do this, all I see is the cingular ext rom files that are installed during the "customization" process. I am wondering if Cingular is in fact locking the ext rom so that no matter what ROM is flashed the ext rom will always contain the Cingular programs and files that were shipped with the phone.
I have yet to see a user with an IPL/SPL of 2.25.0001 be able to install any ext roms.
Jason
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Are you sure ? I could have sworn that some members with 2.25.0001 were able to install custom roms completely. Can anyone confirm this for us ?
I have a G4, and the original IPL/SPL was 2.25.0001. I tried all the free options to CID unlock (they worked for SIM unlock), but not worked. So I paid the £20 to IMEI-Check for the unlock key. With that I fully CID unlocked my device.
I installed the stock T-Mobile USA 2.26 ROM, and now my IPL/SPL is 2.26.0001. (I switched carriers from Cingular to T-Mobile, but prefer the 8125's keyboard to the MDA's, so I wanted to keep my existing device.)
Hi,
I have a dutch HTC wizard/qtek 9100, with the AKU 2 NLD ROM.
I tried CID unlocking but noticed that didn't work with AKU 2,
Is it possible my phone isn't cid-locked? Is there a quick way to check?
How can I downgrade to an older rom version and what file should I use,
I tried this one: "RUU_Prodigy_1030710_110_10410_Qtek_NLD_Ship.exe"
but after restarting my wizard and loading the bootloader the update program gave an error claiming that it can only UPgrade to newer versions...
I suppose I cant use the wwe version or can I?
well, thanx in advance,
Bonusbartus
As written before, u need AKU 1 to CID unlock your phone..the only way to be sure is to unlock again. Use buttons rom.. downgrade to that... unlock the phone.. install the rom again so the IPL and SPL are the same..then you can switch to whatever rom you want. How ever, you havent shown what type of Wizard you have whether its a G3 or a G4..the above method is what i used for my G3 Wizard
I have a g3 wizard,
so I can use that rom, I don't need a dutch version or something else?
Bonusbartus said:
Hi,
I have a dutch HTC wizard/qtek 9100, with the AKU 2 NLD ROM.
I tried CID unlocking but noticed that didn't work with AKU 2,
Is it possible my phone isn't cid-locked? Is there a quick way to check?
How can I downgrade to an older rom version and what file should I use,
I tried this one: "RUU_Prodigy_1030710_110_10410_Qtek_NLD_Ship.exe"
but after restarting my wizard and loading the bootloader the update program gave an error claiming that it can only UPgrade to newer versions...
I suppose I cant use the wwe version or can I?
well, thanx in advance,
Bonusbartus
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1. Thank-you for posting in a new thread and not in a ROM release thread.
2. Do you have a G3 or G4 (what is your IPL/SPL?)
2a. If you have a G3 read the Sticky post The Definitive Guide to Unlocking & Rom Upgrading G3 Wizards.
2b. If you have a G4 log onto the IMEI pay site (links all over the place) and pay to get your phone unlocked.
3. IF you have a G3 rom you must downgrade to CID unlock. It isn't possible to CID unlock from AKU2 or higher (read the sticky, it tells you what you need to do)
4. The best thing to do if you are unsure is to just repeat the unlock procedure. It won't hurt a thing if you are already unlocked, but will unlock you if you are locked.
5. Don't do anything flash related until you know for sure, beyond a doubt which version of Wizard you have (G3 or G4) If you have a G4 and use G3 procedures you WILL most likely ruin your device.
6. You won't get this error if you follow the steps in the correct order from the upgrade guide.
7. Good Luck
Bonusbartus said:
I have a g3 wizard,
so I can use that rom, I don't need a dutch version or something else?
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With your G3 just follow the steps, in order, from the sticky and you should be able to end with whatever ROM you choose. Some of the steps may not make sense but, they are necessary and prevent common issues if followed correctly.
Well, I do have a G3 so I can follow the tutorial,
ipl and spl are 2.18,
only question left, CAN I downgrade to the wwe rom in the tutorial? that's what I wanna know, because I now have a nld rom, can I flash to the wwe rom in the tutorial without CID-unlocking?
well I think I just try
thanx
oh btw, any recommendations on which rom to flash to after unlocking? and I saw something about radio only roms and page-pools what would u recommend there?
ok guys i f***** up my mda gets stuck at second splash screen the one that tells you ipl/spl and stuff
i was flashing a new rom using a prog called shelltool which i got from here as my device isnt cid unlocked i was using this rom
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=403096
dunno whats happened but now its stuck and cant seem to get it sorted here are some details
ipl 3.08
spl 3.08
gsm 02.69.11
os 2.18.0.0
i have tried using a rom update utility but doesnt work, please help
You can always flash back to your MDA stock ROM.
After flashing back, flash to Button's ROM to downgrade your IPL and SPL and unlock your CID. However due to your IPL and SPL is at 3.08, there is a possibility that you can downgrade IPL to 1.01, however SPL stays at 3.08. In that case, try unlock CID using Wizard Service Tool (Actually you can also use WST if both IPL and SPL version are 1.01).
Note: Never use ShellTool ever. There are methods now that use RUU to flash your favorite ROM, both for G3 and G4. You should use those methods instead.
the same thing happened to me when I was very hesitant on cid unlocking my 838 . I use shelltool in flashing and was successful but when i decided to give another shot on a different cooked rom, it certainly did its job on flashing but never got pass on the IPL SPL screen.
then I follow Dr. P's guide (CID unlocking) then I successfully resurrected my 838 and now I can flash whatever cooked rom I want (given that it is for a G3 device)
btw, after flashing my 838 with the buttons rom, I use WST instead of lokiwiz
HTHs
thanks
thanks for your help guys got it sorted and cid unlocked now
just need a really good rom now
and the hunting begins
good to hear that try to look for a rom that will suit your needs. There is a lot of good roms here, just try to search what best fit you.
like I did, i have flashed at least 5 different roms in just a months time