Hello everybody !!
I just spent about 28 hours reading the threads in order to change my GERMAN O2 XDA MINI S (Wizard) ROM. Into an english one.
For that matter I know I need to unlock my CID, but since i have the latest ROM installed, IPL 2.21.001 and SPL 2.21.001 Lockwiz won't work !!!!
so I tried to Downgrade my Rom in order to make the Lockwiz work, but I am not able to find a suiting German Rom anywhere on the Net.
So I was wondering if nebody would be kind enough to tell me where to find and older German ROM or how I can avoid DOWNGRADING and simply unlock my CID
best regards ... Bayardo
I3aYardo said:
Hello everybody !!
I just spent about 28 hours reading the threads in order to change my GERMAN O2 XDA MINI S (Wizard) ROM. Into an english one.
For that matter I know I need to unlock my CID, but since i have the latest ROM installed, IPL 2.21.001 and SPL 2.21.001 Lockwiz won't work !!!!
so I tried to Downgrade my Rom in order to make the Lockwiz work, but I am not able to find a suiting German Rom anywhere on the Net.
So I was wondering if nebody would be kind enough to tell me where to find and older German ROM or how I can avoid DOWNGRADING and simply unlock my CID
best regards ... Bayardo
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Since you have a G4 boot chip (the tailing .001 in IPL and SPL tells that) you CANNOT downgrade your ROM to 1.x version.
DO NOT TRY INSTALLING A 1.X ROM: YOU'LL BRICK YOUR PPC!!! DO NOT FOLLOW FARIA's PROCEDURE TO CID UNLOCK 2.X PHONES: IT WON'T WORK IN YOUR CASE ('cos you've got a G4 boot chip).
This means that you will NOT be able to CID/SIM unlock your phone with lokiwiz 0.2b (however you can still use lokiwiz 0.3a to SIM unlock it, but no CID unlock).
But don't despair, you CAN still change your phone language and install whatever 2.x rom you like. The procedure to follow, however, is a bit different: you cannot simply download a rom you like and install it, you'll need to hack it a little first, but the results will be the same!
Basically, all you have to do is get the ROM you like (only 2.xx ROM!!!) and remove from it the IPL/SPL part. Then, you have to flash this 'hacked' rom using a slightly modified ROM Upgrade Utility (i can provide it to you if you want). With this method you're not going to replace the IPL/SPL (bootloader) of your phone so you don't need to CID unlock it (which, at the time i'm writing, is impossible).
To remove IPL/SPL from your ROM you have to extract the file nk.nbf from the ROM and get its content with typho5 tool (search this forum to have more info). Then you have to reassemble a new nk.nbf using nb2nbf. The new nk.nbf, of course, must NOT contain the IPL/SPL parts.
If you prefer, you can tell me what ROM are you interested in and i'll do the dirty work for you. Just let me know.
Bye
Basically, all you have to do is get the ROM you like (only 2.xx ROM!!!) and remove from it the IPL/SPL part. Then, you have to flash this 'hacked' rom using a slightly modified ROM Upgrade Utility (i can provide it to you if you want). With this method you're not going to replace the IPL/SPL (bootloader) of your phone so you don't need to CID unlock it (which, at the time i'm writing, is impossible).
To remove IPL/SPL from your ROM you have to extract the file nk.nbf from the ROM and get its content with typho5 tool (search this forum to have more info). Then you have to reassemble a new nk.nbf using nb2nbf. The new nk.nbf, of course, must NOT contain the IPL/SPL parts.
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I would be very thankful if you could post a link or send me the ROM upgrade Utility needed
best regards
Bayardo
risidoro said:
I3aYardo said:
Hello everybody !!
I just spent about 28 hours reading the threads in order to change my GERMAN O2 XDA MINI S (Wizard) ROM. Into an english one.
For that matter I know I need to unlock my CID, but since i have the latest ROM installed, IPL 2.21.001 and SPL 2.21.001 Lockwiz won't work !!!!
so I tried to Downgrade my Rom in order to make the Lockwiz work, but I am not able to find a suiting German Rom anywhere on the Net.
So I was wondering if nebody would be kind enough to tell me where to find and older German ROM or how I can avoid DOWNGRADING and simply unlock my CID
best regards ... Bayardo
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Since you have a G4 boot chip (the tailing .001 in IPL and SPL tells that) you CANNOT downgrade your ROM to 1.x version.
DO NOT TRY INSTALLING A 1.X ROM: YOU'LL BRICK YOUR PPC!!! DO NOT FOLLOW FARIA's PROCEDURE TO CID UNLOCK 2.X PHONES: IT WON'T WORK IN YOUR CASE ('cos you've got a G4 boot chip).
This means that you will NOT be able to CID/SIM unlock your phone with lokiwiz 0.2b (however you can still use lokiwiz 0.3a to SIM unlock it, but no CID unlock).
But don't despair, you CAN still change your phone language and install whatever 2.x rom you like. The procedure to follow, however, is a bit different: you cannot simply download a rom you like and install it, you'll need to hack it a little first, but the results will be the same!
Basically, all you have to do is get the ROM you like (only 2.xx ROM!!!) and remove from it the IPL/SPL part. Then, you have to flash this 'hacked' rom using a slightly modified ROM Upgrade Utility (i can provide it to you if you want). With this method you're not going to replace the IPL/SPL (bootloader) of your phone so you don't need to CID unlock it (which, at the time i'm writing, is impossible).
To remove IPL/SPL from your ROM you have to extract the file nk.nbf from the ROM and get its content with typho5 tool (search this forum to have more info). Then you have to reassemble a new nk.nbf using nb2nbf. The new nk.nbf, of course, must NOT contain the IPL/SPL parts.
If you prefer, you can tell me what ROM are you interested in and i'll do the dirty work for you. Just let me know.
Bye
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Hi risidoro,
I am trying upgrade my O2 German Wizrad G4 version into WWE, I followed your instruction & has used nb2nbf to compile a 2.xx rom without IPL & SPL. When I used the update utility to falsh the Wizard, the utility said something like: Error, this update utility is not for your device. etc.
I think I need to used your modified update utility , can you send it to me?
Also my other question is, when I use nb2nbf , what should I put in the model id for my German Wizard?
You advice can help me & many others to solve our headache in upgrading a G4 Rom! Cheers!
phone_one said:
Hi risidoro,
I am trying upgrade my O2 German Wizrad G4 version into WWE, I followed your instruction & has used nb2nbf to compile a 2.xx rom without IPL & SPL. When I used the update utility to falsh the Wizard, the utility said something like: Error, this update utility is not for your device. etc.
I think I need to used your modified update utility , can you send it to me?
Also my other question is, when I use nb2nbf , what should I put in the model id for my German Wizard?
You advice can help me & many others to solve our headache in upgrading a G4 Rom! Cheers!
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The modified RUU (ROM Update Utility) is attached.
For ModelID you can use both WIZARD or Prodigy (i used the former).
risidoro said:
Since you have a G4 boot chip (the tailing .001 in IPL and SPL tells that) you CANNOT downgrade your ROM to 1.x version.
DO NOT TRY INSTALLING A 1.X ROM: YOU'LL BRICK YOUR PPC!!! DO NOT FOLLOW FARIA's PROCEDURE TO CID UNLOCK 2.X PHONES: IT WON'T WORK IN YOUR CASE ('cos you've got a G4 boot chip).
This means that you will NOT be able to CID/SIM unlock your phone with lokiwiz 0.2b (however you can still use lokiwiz 0.3a to SIM unlock it, but no CID unlock).
But don't despair, you CAN still change your phone language and install whatever 2.x rom you like. The procedure to follow, however, is a bit different: you cannot simply download a rom you like and install it, you'll need to hack it a little first, but the results will be the same!
Basically, all you have to do is get the ROM you like (only 2.xx ROM!!!) and remove from it the IPL/SPL part. Then, you have to flash this 'hacked' rom using a slightly modified ROM Upgrade Utility (i can provide it to you if you want). With this method you're not going to replace the IPL/SPL (bootloader) of your phone so you don't need to CID unlock it (which, at the time i'm writing, is impossible).
To remove IPL/SPL from your ROM you have to extract the file nk.nbf from the ROM and get its content with typho5 tool (search this forum to have more info). Then you have to reassemble a new nk.nbf using nb2nbf. The new nk.nbf, of course, must NOT contain the IPL/SPL parts.
If you prefer, you can tell me what ROM are you interested in and i'll do the dirty work for you. Just let me know.
Bye
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sorry to hijack your thread,
just wanted to ask a short question.
if my info is as below:
US T-mobile MDA Vario
IPL 1.03
SPL 1.06
GSM 01.12.10
OS 1.3.13.5
ROM version: 1.3.13.5 ENU
ROM date: 9/29/05
Radio version: 01.12.10
Protocol version: 4.0.13.23
ExtROM: 1.3.13.116
OS 5.1.70(build 14406.1.1.1)
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does this mean that its on a G3 chip and that i can use lokiwiz03a to CID unlock it and upload any 2.x ROM as i please? and downgrade the ROMs too?
@Bola: you have a 1.x ROM so you can CID unlock your phone with Lokiwiz0.2b (NOT 0.3a). Then you'll be able to install whichever ROM you like.
Bye
I've just published a tutorial that can help those with a G4 or G3 (>= 2.21) CID-Locked device to install whichever 2.x ROM they like.
The tutorial is here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=56088
Bye
risidoro said:
@Bola: you have a 1.x ROM so you can CID unlock your phone with Lokiwiz0.2b (NOT 0.3a). Then you'll be able to install whichever ROM you like.
Bye
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thanks risidoro.
i'll give it a go later.
there wont be any issue downgrading the ROM later would there?
eg if i were to install:
RUU_Wizard_2211301_22113102_021911_DOP_ASIA_WWE_Ship.exe
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and later back to
RUU_Prodigy_1060701_101_11310_QTEK_WWE_Ship.exe ?
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oh, the bootloader (IPL/SPL) doesnt get upgraded either when i upgrade, would it?
oh thank for the help risidoro.
i saw your post after i uploaded mine.
read through your tutorial and i figured that both IPL / SPL will get updated
people like you makes this site great
thanks once again.
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Hi,
a few days ago i wrote on this forum that i had been able to install an italian ROM on a G4, CID-Locked Wizard. Since then, i've received several mails and PM from users asking me how i did. Instead of replying each one, i though it was better to write a tutorial and post it here for everyone to read/comment/correct it.
Here it is. Together with the tools you'll need to perform the update.
PS: in this tutorial i'm not explaining how to CID-UNlock a G4 or G3 (>= 2.21) phone. There is not yet a way to CID unlock these phones. I'm just describing how to circumvent the CID-lock problem by installing a ROM deprived of the IPL and SPL parts.
DISCLAIMER: THE PROCEDURE I’M GOING TO EXPLAIN DEALS WITH ROM ‘COOKING’ AND THUS IT MAY CAUSE SEVERE DATA LOSS OR EVEN IRREMEDIABLY DAMAGE YOUR DEVICE!
THE AUTHOR, NOR EVERY OTHER PERSON INVOLVED (E.G. THE ROM TOOLS DEVELOPERS), SHALL NOT BE HELD RESPONSIBLE FOR ANY MALFUNCTIONS OR DAMAGES THIS PROCEDURE MAY CAUSE.
By following this tutorial, you're removing both the bootloaders (IPL and SPL) from a rom of your choice. This means that, if you don't make errors while 'cooking' the rom, you cannot completely destroy (brick) your phone. Sure, you could end up with a non-booting rom but, as long as you can get to the three colors screen (the bootloader screen) you'll always be able to install a different (or your previous) working rom.
On the other hand, messing with IPL and SPL (i.e. installing a rom containing IPL and SPL in a CID locked device) is EXTREMELY DANGEROUS and MUST be avoided in most cases!!!
Installing a 2.xx rom without messing with your phone's IPL and SPL is exactly what this tutorial tries to explain.
NEVER INSTALL ROMS OR FOLLOW TUTORIALS IF YOU'RE NOT SURE OF WHAT YOU'RE DOING!!!
ALWAYS ASK BEFORE PROCEEDING! A SIMPLE QUESTION MAY SAVE YOUR PHONE FROM DEATH!
Worked perfect!
Thank you very much for the clear explanation!!! 8)
HI,
Have I to introduce on nb2nbf SW the ITA language without CID??
squarna said:
HI,
Have I to introduce on nb2nbf SW the ITA language without CID??
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Leave the CID field empty and specify the language you're installing (ITA for italian, WWE for english).
Hi,
I have installed this SW on my MDA T-mobile:
IPL:2.21.0001
SPL:2.21.0001
GSM:2.19.11
OS:2.21.2.6
EXROM:2.21.2.109
What is the best Italian ROM to flash inside?
squarna said:
Hi,
I have installed this SW on my MDA T-mobile:
IPL:2.21.0001
SPL:2.21.0001
GSM:2.19.11
OS:2.21.2.6
EXROM:2.21.2.109
What is the best Italian ROM to flash inside?
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This is quite Off Topic here, anyway you can use K-Jam 2.18 italian ROM (find it here: ftp://ftp.clubimate.com/K-JAM_ITA_2180901_21809104_20710_ship.zip)
German to WWE
Worked perfect, no glitches! Thanks for the help!
So is there any issues with using a mismatched ipl/spl bootloader on my G4 equipped O2 mini S?
I really want to install Mr. Clean's Clean ROM, but i am afraid of bricking it.
I have done ROm upgrades before by CID unlocking my old Qtek9100 G3 (but my foolish friend dropped it into a cup of coffeee and killed it).
I will admit, the Mr. CLean Rom was WAY faster than my OE 2.21 ROm on my O2.
Is there anyway to go back and uninstall? Ie. download rom from O2 website to restore it?
REgards,
ED
minirx7 said:
So is there any issues with using a mismatched ipl/spl bootloader on my G4 equipped O2 mini S?
I really want to install Mr. Clean's Clean ROM, but i am afraid of bricking it.
I have done ROm upgrades before by CID unlocking my old Qtek9100 G3 (but my foolish friend dropped it into a cup of coffeee and killed it).
I will admit, the Mr. CLean Rom was WAY faster than my OE 2.21 ROm on my O2.
Is there anyway to go back and uninstall? Ie. download rom from O2 website to restore it?
REgards,
ED
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You CAN install MrClean AKU2.3 ROM BUT only if you first modify it following my guide: you cannot touch the IPL/SPL parts!!!
There are two reasons for not installing the original, unmodified MrClean ROM:
1) G4 phones cannot be CID unlocked. This means that you can replace their original IPL/SPL ONLY with a newer version made by the very same operator: e.g. if you have a 2.21 WWE T-mobile ROM then you can ONLY update this rom with a version > 2.21 made by T-mobile!!! You CANNOT use any other language nor any other operator's ROMs (cingular's, qtek's, etc).
2) MrClean ROM, as all the other home made ROMs you'll find in this forum, can be installed ONLY in G3 models because it contains only IPL and SPL version 1.0 (G4 phones need version 2.0)
Basically then, you have only 3 choices:
a) Follow my tutorial and be able to install every 2.x ROM you like (both stock ROMs and home made ones, every language, every operator). The only limitation is that you cannot install 1.x ROMs!
b) Install ONLY ROMs that are the OFFICIAL update to the one you have currently installed (e.g. if you have cingular 2.25 WWE rom then you'll be able to update it only when and if, a new, official, wwe, cingular ROM will be released). You won't be able to install a different language ROM nor a ROM made by a different operator, nor a home made ROM (like MrClean).
c) you can CID unlock your G4 wizard using some online service but: it will cost you money and you won't still be able to install home-made ROM 'cos they contain only IPL/SPL version 1.0 (you'll still need IPL/SPL version 2.0)
That said, i strongly suggest you solution (a)! It's free, it's very simple (it may seem complex but after the first time it'll be straight forward), it's the safest (because you don't replace the boot loader IPL and SPL) and it let you install whichever 2.x ROM you like!
Bye
Thank you risidoro,
Yes, i do realize the G4 IPL/SPL must not be altered to prevent from bricking the device.
I will try the Mr. Clean ROM tonight using your tutorial. I guess my only question is, will there be an issue using a 2.21 G4 IPL SPL on a 2.24ROM?
DOes the bootloader actual change with new ROMS?
risidoro said:
minirx7 said:
So is there any issues with using a mismatched ipl/spl bootloader on my G4 equipped O2 mini S?
I really want to install Mr. Clean's Clean ROM, but i am afraid of bricking it.
I have done ROm upgrades before by CID unlocking my old Qtek9100 G3 (but my foolish friend dropped it into a cup of coffeee and killed it).
I will admit, the Mr. CLean Rom was WAY faster than my OE 2.21 ROm on my O2.
Is there anyway to go back and uninstall? Ie. download rom from O2 website to restore it?
REgards,
ED
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You CAN install MrClean AKU2.3 ROM BUT only if you first modify it following my guide: you cannot touch the IPL/SPL parts!!!
There are two reasons for not installing the original, unmodified MrClean ROM:
1) G4 phones cannot be CID unlocked. This means that you can replace their original IPL/SPL ONLY with a newer version made by the very same operator: e.g. if you have a 2.21 WWE T-mobile ROM then you can ONLY update this rom with a version > 2.21 made by T-mobile!!! You CANNOT use any other language nor any other operator's ROMs (cingular's, qtek's, etc).
2) MrClean ROM, as all the other home made ROMs you'll find in this forum, can be installed ONLY in G3 models because it contains only IPL and SPL version 1.0 (G4 phones need version 2.0)
Basically then, you have only 3 choices:
a) Follow my tutorial and be able to install every 2.x ROM you like (both stock ROMs and home made ones, every language, every operator). The only limitation is that you cannot install 1.x ROMs!
b) Install ONLY ROMs that are the OFFICIAL update to the one you have currently installed (e.g. if you have cingular 2.25 WWE rom then you'll be able to update it only when and if, a new, official, wwe, cingular ROM will be released). You won't be able to install a different language ROM nor a ROM made by a different operator, nor a home made ROM (like MrClean).
c) you can CID unlock your G4 wizard using some online service but: it will cost you money and you won't still be able to install home-made ROM 'cos they contain only IPL/SPL version 1.0 (you'll still need IPL/SPL version 2.0)
That said, i strongly suggest you solution (a)! It's free, it's very simple (it may seem complex but after the first time it'll be straight forward), it's the safest (because you don't replace the boot loader IPL and SPL) and it let you install whichever 2.x ROM you like!
Bye
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minirx7 said:
Thank you risidoro,
Yes, i do realize the G4 IPL/SPL must not be altered to prevent from bricking the device.
I will try the Mr. Clean ROM tonight using your tutorial. I guess my only question is, will there be an issue using a 2.21 G4 IPL SPL on a 2.24ROM?
DOes the bootloader actual change with new ROMS?
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Bootloader and ROM version numbers usually are the same (so ROM 2.24 should have IPL/SPL 2.24) but they can be different. I've used IPL/SPL 2.21.001 with both 2.18 and 2.24 ROMs.
Maybe newer ROMs, greater than 2.24, will require an updated IPL/SPL so you'll be obliged to CID unlock your phone. By then however, i hope there'll be a free CID unlocking tool for G4.
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Thank you risidoro!! I was regretting getting my O2 miniS G4, in place of my broken Qtek 9100 G3.
I will give it a shot tonight. I noticed that the 2.24 ROM was much faster when I used it on my Qtek, over any other ROM.
Regards
risidoro said:
minirx7 said:
Thank you risidoro,
Yes, i do realize the G4 IPL/SPL must not be altered to prevent from bricking the device.
I will try the Mr. Clean ROM tonight using your tutorial. I guess my only question is, will there be an issue using a 2.21 G4 IPL SPL on a 2.24ROM?
DOes the bootloader actual change with new ROMS?
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Bootloader and ROM version numbers usually are the same (so ROM 2.24 should have IPL/SPL 2.24) but they can be different. I've used IPL/SPL 2.21.001 with both 2.18 and 2.24 ROMs.
Maybe newer ROMs, greater than 2.24, will require an updated IPL/SPL so you'll be obliged to CID unlock your phone. By then however, i hope there'll be a free CID unlocking tool for G4.
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THANK YOU THANK YOU!!!
I HAVE SUCCESSFULLY INSTALLED MR. CLEAN 2.24A ON MY G4 DEVICE!!!!
THe ROM is so much faster and smoother than the OE 2.21 ROM!!! tahnks again!
risidoro did you SIM unlock your G4 phone ? If yes what tool and version did you use to do that ?
jeegnesh said:
risidoro did you SIM unlock your G4 phone ? If yes what tool and version did you use to do that ?
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My two phones were both factory simunlocked but i heard that some people is successfully using LokiwizMSL 0.3a to sim unlock G4 wizards.
Just follow the author's instruction. The procedure is staightforward.
Find it here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=50768&highlight=lokiwiz
Bye
Thanks for the superfast reply, actually waiting for someone to get me this phone, hopefully this week, wil try it out once I get it.
Using Clean ROM, does it just improve startup time, or does it improve performace of the phone in general ?
Do you have to re-install software after ROM update ?
jeegnesh said:
Thanks for the superfast reply, actually waiting for someone to get me this phone, hopefully this week, wil try it out once I get it.
Using Clean ROM, does it just improve startup time, or does it improve performace of the phone in general ?
Do you have to re-install software after ROM update ?
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Upgrading the OS part of a ROM cause your phone to hard reset, so yes, you'll have to reinstall everything. If, on the other hand, you upgrade any other part (GSM, Splash, ExtROM, HTC) but not the OS then you won't loose your data.
MrClean ROM and Summitter's ROM are both very fast. The latter contains cingular's customizations in extROM (they don't slow down the phone, they're mainly registry settings), some ringtones and compact framework 2.0 in ROM. If you're not a cingular user then i suggest you take the OS part from summitter's rom and the extrom from the MrClean. Then join the two parts with nb2nbf and flash to your device.
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Any reason to take Summitter's OS is it faster or something then Mr Clean ?
jeegnesh said:
Any reason to take Summitter's OS is it faster or something then Mr Clean ?
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No. Both summitter and mrclean use the same OS ROM (2.24.10 AKU2.3) hence they have the SAME, IDENTICAL speed.
The difference is that Summitter manually edited the original ROM and added a lot of ringtones, themes and, most important, the .net compact framework 2.0. If you install Summitter OS, then, you'll have the same mrclean basic OS plus a lot of goodies that don't take any space in storage since they're in ROM (compact framework 2.0 alone would take about 5mb of your precious storage if you installed it on mrclean).
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This thread needs to be a sticky!!
Hi,
I've installed the latest AKU 3.2 Version on my Wizard.
Now i've wanted to downgrade to AKU 2.0 (with the original Loader Provided from "Vario_AKU2.0_05-2006.exe") and the tool tells me it is not possible. Is there a way to make it run?
Thanks a lot
It looks like nobody has an idea how to downgrade from SPL2.xx en that sucks! noboby warns about it when supplying new ROMS..
I have the same problem with a TMobile Vario that needs to be flashed to stock ROM\IPL\SPL..
I've found a way to do it but its for the HTC Thyfoon and might not work with the Wizard..
Nobody warns ??????????????????????????
Gramma told me that if I don't have something nice to say to keep quiet...
Maybe if you downgrade to a 1.xx ROM first you can then go back to your AKU 2.
ftp://xda:[email protected]__RUU_Wizard_1050412_WWE_101_11210_WWE.exe
Good luck.
mforce said:
It looks like nobody has an idea how to downgrade from SPL2.xx en that sucks! noboby warns about it when supplying new ROMS..
I have the same problem with a TMobile Vario that needs to be flashed to stock ROM\IPL\SPL..
I've found a way to do it but its for the HTC Thyfoon and might not work with the Wizard..
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There are tons of threads on this issue already... maybe if you are hardworking enough to search for it yourself, you won't even have that problem at all... warnings are placed everywhere... please read before you even proceed to upgrade your rom...
Dr Puttingham said:
Gramma told me that if I don't have something nice to say to keep quiet...
Maybe if you downgrade to a 1.xx ROM first you can then go back to your AKU 2.
ftp://xda:[email protected]__RUU_Wizard_1050412_WWE_101_11210_WWE.exe
Good luck.
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Already tried that, not working.. btw wise gramma
vseehua said:
There are tons of threads on this issue already... maybe if you are hardworking enough to search for it yourself, you won't even have that problem at all... warnings are placed everywhere... please read before you even proceed to upgrade your rom...
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I've searched for hours the two solutions Boots 1.05 end Cingular 1.8 do not work but if you are so sure their is an solution ill keep searching
Ofcource I know about warnings but ive NEVER seen an warning about SPL not being able to downgrade..
Possible solution
A German mate told me that there is a solution
Try to load the Qtec Custom Rom from ...
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Wizard_Upgrades
.. and Flash it to your Wizard. After that is should be possible to load older Roms without any problems.
I did not have tested it... (Please tell me if its works or not).
mforce said:
Already tried that, not working.. btw wise gramma
I've searched for hours the two solutions Boots 1.05 end Cingular 1.8 do not work but if you are so sure their is an solution ill keep searching
Ofcource I know about warnings but ive NEVER seen an warning about SPL not being able to downgrade..
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If you have a G3 device you can downgrade your IPL/SPL. I've done it my Cingular 8125 and it's 3 replacement PDA's numerous times. In addition I've downgraded at least 20 phones to 1.05 so's I could unlock and then upgrade. And then done it again. If you follow faria's instructions that is.... Now I HAVE had to flash the 1.05 twice to get the SPL down to 1.05. Humor us huh?
Note: I realize that Faria says that it doesn't work above 2.21 but I have performed this procedure on at least a dozen "out of the box" Cingular 2.25's. Downgrade to 1.05. Extract lokiwiz to the root of your C drive. Copy enablerapi.cab to your device (I know that you've unlocked your device, just indulge me please ) Execute enablerapi.cab from your PDA. get to a Dos prompt and run lokiwiz from the C prompt. Unlock CID and SIM. It WILL reboot each time. If your IPL / SPL still show a 2.x reflash again with the 1.05.
If you do this I'll just about guarantee that it'll work
Good Luck!
Dr Puttingham said:
If you have a G3 device you can downgrade your IPL/SPL. Unlock CID and SIM. It WILL reboot each time. If your IPL / SPL still show a 2.x reflash again with the 1.05.
If you do this I'll just about guarantee that it'll work
Good Luck!
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Your garantee worked great fabulous work ! I downgraded my Dutch MDA Vario from official Tmobile Rom RUU_Prodigy_2210205_22102108_021911_TMO_NL_DUT_Ship.exe with 2.21 IPL.SPL to 1.05. Indeed needed to run WWE flashrom - did the Lockwiz2b CID unlock and ran the Flashrom WWE again and voila IPL/SPL 1.01 - OS 1.5.4.2 -GSM 1.12.10.0 - Thanks a lot!!
I owe you one ..
Hi,
i want to downgrade my 2.21 G3 Vario as well which is NLD and locked. I believe that I know all the steps neccesary and already downed the QTEK custom ROM. Can I just execute this ROM and have it install the older version on my Vario, run lokiwiz02b and upgrade again?
One part I didn't find on the forum was the need to run "WWE flashrom" again to downgrade to 1.05
What is this WWE flashrom, is it a seperate tool besides the Custom rom and if yes where do I get it?
thanks,
stefan
A2Z said:
Your garantee worked great fabulous work ! I downgraded my Dutch MDA Vario from official Tmobile Rom RUU_Prodigy_2210205_22102108_021911_TMO_NL_DUT_Ship.exe with 2.21 IPL.SPL to 1.05. Indeed needed to run WWE flashrom - did the Lockwiz2b CID unlock and ran the Flashrom WWE again and voila IPL/SPL 1.01 - OS 1.5.4.2 -GSM 1.12.10.0 - Thanks a lot!!
I owe you one ..
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Great! it works
stefan1975 said:
Hi,
i want to downgrade my 2.21 G3 Vario as well which is NLD and locked. I believe that I know all the steps neccesary and already downed the QTEK custom ROM. Can I just execute this ROM and have it install the older version on my Vario, run lokiwiz02b and upgrade again?
One part I didn't find on the forum was the need to run "WWE flashrom" again to downgrade to 1.05
What is this WWE flashrom, is it a seperate tool besides the Custom rom and if yes where do I get it?
thanks,
stefan
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This one.. (flash it 2 times!)
ftp://xda:[email protected]__RUU_Wizard_1050412_WWE_101_11210_WWE.exe
Seppl82 said:
A German mate told me that there is a solution
Try to load the Qtec Custom Rom from ...
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Wizard_Upgrades
.. and Flash it to your Wizard. After that is should be possible to load older Roms without any problems.
I did not have tested it... (Please tell me if its works or not).
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Does NOT work, thnx anyway
I have the same problem.
But i allready downgaded with the Custom version.
When i restart i can see. it is IPL 1.01 and SPL 2.26
Is it possilble olso downgrade the SPL (i do not exactrly know what it is)
Downgrading/Upgrading
Dr P. or anyone else,
I've seen "somewhere on this board" a description of how to flash "any rom" without having to downgrade to 1.05, it stated to change the .exe file to a .rar and then change the ruu file to one that is not looking for the current phone status. I've tried that and have not had success in doing so. IF there is infact a way to do this, could someone please provide a blow by blow scenario to accomplish it?
Thanks,
vpu2
HighVoltage said:
I have the same problem.
But i allready downgaded with the Custom version.
When i restart i can see. it is IPL 1.01 and SPL 2.26
Is it possilble olso downgrade the SPL (i do not exactrly know what it is)
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Bet you didn't run the 1.05 a second time as I stated before. I'm actually doing a brand new Cingular G3 2.25 as we speak. I downgraded to 1.05, SPL still says 2.25. Copied enablerapi to the device and executed it from the device. Extracted lokiwiz to the root of my E drive (on my new thinkpad that I'm setting up at the same time...) It rebooted twice as it's susposed to when you unlock the CID and the SIM. Ran the downgrade a second time and both IPL and SPL are 1.01, the GSM is 1.12.10.0 and the OS is 1.5.4.2.... every freak'n time I do this, probably close to two dozen Cingular 8125's. If it don't work for you I just don't know what more to tell ya....
Dr Puttingham said:
Bet you didn't run the 1.05 a second time as I stated before. I'm actually doing a brand new Cingular G3 2.25 as we speak. I downgraded to 1.05, SPL still says 2.25. Copied enablerapi to the device and executed it from the device. Extracted lokiwiz to the root of my E drive (on my new thinkpad that I'm setting up at the same time...) It rebooted twice as it's susposed to when you unlock the CID and the SIM. Ran the downgrade a second time and both IPL and SPL are 1.01, the GSM is 1.12.10.0 and the OS is 1.5.4.2.... every freak'n time I do this, probably close to two dozen Cingular 8125's. If it don't work for you I just don't know what more to tell ya....
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Hi Guys,
I tried everything but it doesn't help das anyone had another option?
Thanks
could you be any vaguer? "tried everything" is so informative. report exactly the steps you've tried please.
Dr Puttingham said:
could you be any vaguer? "tried everything" is so informative. report exactly the steps you've tried please.
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I tried everything what everybody said in this post.
Mr hokkie, please humble me and document exactly what device you own and your exact IPL/SPL/OS/GSM versions. Beacuase I just don't think that you've got in in ya to be my first failure. Show me what you got
I own a Dutch MDA Vario from T-mobile, which has a T-mobile SIM-lock. I want to remove the SIM-lock, so I tried http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=249474&page=1. Unfortunately it returned an error, it appears I have a 2.21 ROM, so I want to downgrade the rom, which brought me to this thread.
I've downloaded the CUSTOM_RUU_Wizard_1050412_WWE_101_11210_WWE.exe, and ran it. I get the first few screens (the caution-screen, the prepare-screen, the Update screen, the verify screen and the last screen). After that I get the screen where a percentage bar should start moving. My phone-screen is now divided in about four horizontal parts.
The first one is red-fading to black, and it reads RUU on the top-right, and the line below it reads IPL 2.21.0001. The last line in this part reads SPL 2.21.0001.
The second part is similar to the first, but it is green, without any text. The third part is similar to the green one, except it's blue.
The last part is smaller than the previous parts, it's plain white (about two lines high) and reads USB.
On my PC I get a screen telling me:
ERROR[300]: INVALID UPDATE TOOL
This Udate Uility cannot be used for your PDA Phone. Please get newer Update Utillity.
What am I doing wrong here? (BTW: I'm a computer-expert and a phone-noob)
By the way, the verify screen reads:
From:
Model ID: WIZARD
Image Version: 1.2.0.0
Language: ENGLISH
To:
Model ID: Prodigy
Image version:
Language: WWE
using typho5 we can see that latest Molski ROM still contain IPL/ SPL but Faria's ROM 3.0 dose not ! just OS, GSM, Splash and Extension
as far as i know the rom that not contain IPL & SPL can be installed in both G4 and G3 wisard ! can also be installed in CID Unlocked wizard
another thing i would understand !! changing the boot (spl/ipl) is dangerouse !so if we use any rom without IPL/SPL it would be better and safe !
so why we need to cid unlock the wizard ? and why change the boot ?
hica said:
using typho5 we can see that latest Molski ROM still contain IPL/ SPL but Faria's ROM 3.0 dose not ! just OS, GSM, Splash and Extension
as far as i know the rom that not contain IPL & SPL can be installed in both G4 and G3 wisard ! can also be installed in CID Unlocked wizard
another thing i would understand !! changing the boot (spl/ipl) is dangerouse !so if we use any rom without IPL/SPL it would be better and safe !
so why we need to cid unlock the wizard ? and why change the boot ?
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Well... the CID really hasn't anything to do with the ROM... CID, also known as vendor lock, is something that the manufacturer put in in order to prevent users from installing roms that aren't released by the manufaturers themselfs.
Second, older wizards come with an older bootloader and, naturally, there has been some improvements in the newer versions. Therefor one usually, when one has an older bootloader, have to install a rom provided by a vendor in order to upgrade it. And thereafter install a customized rom released by someone here on the board, assuming that you have CID unlocked your phone before of course
Hope that clarifies it...
I just upgraded my QTEK 9100 with the latest RIsidoro rom and have now a 2.26 OS but...always an ipl 1.03 and a spl 1.03.0000.
The device hangs and I can't have any activsync runnuing to reflash to an other version. How can I recuperate my PPC?
Thanks in advance
sailors_be said:
I just upgraded my QTEK 9100 with the latest RIsidoro rom and have now a 2.26 OS but...always an ipl 1.03 and a spl 1.03.0000.
The device hangs and I can't have any activsync runnuing to reflash to an other version. How can I recuperate my PPC?
Thanks in advance
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To get you started have a look at these threads:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Wizard
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=263116
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=282498
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=284292
More info required.
When having problems with Rom Upgrades you really need to provide as much information as possible about your situation.
Please state the following:
What Rom did you have prior to upgrading, include IPL/SPL numbers.
Do you know if your device is G3 or G4 flash chip?
Is your device CID Unlocked?
Have your read (thoroughly) the instructions provided for the Rom you attempted to upgrade?
My initial guess would be that the Rom you flashed doesn't include IPL/SPL (as Risidoro clearly states in the Original Post (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=276700)
In this case, you need to flash one of the Operator provided AKU 2.x Roms to get your IPL/SPL up to 2.x BEFORE you flash Risidoro's Rom to your device.
Thank you for you reaction
Before flashing I had following situation
IPL 1.03
SPL 1.03.0000
GSM 1.410.0
OS 1.37.10
I didn't saw the thread wher it said that the isodoro flash wasn't a complete one. So I upgraded the device with this rom on the above config
After flashing with Isodoro I have same IPL and SPL no GSM anymore and OS 2.26...
I have no USB connection anymore, I supose I can not flash anymore. The device is extremely slow. The only rescue I see is eventualy to flash the device again with the mini SD.
Before I started the first flash I did a CID unlock. Actualy i don't now if it is locked again.
If tou need more info don't hesitate and thanks for helping.
I'm going to give you some general info but you will have to do your own leg work to put this together.
The Wizard Wiki will contain some of the information you need:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Wizard
Also see the stickied posts at the beginning of the Wizard upgrading forum.
I am assuming that your device is not properly CID Unlocked (although it may be doing it again will not harm your device).
First you will need to download an Operator Rom, I would suggest this one:
ftp://xda:[email protected]_Prodigy_1060701_101_11310_QTEK_WWE_Ship.exe
as it is an official Qtek AKU 1.x Rom.
Second place your Device into Bootloader Mode (search on it) and run the update that you downloaded.
At this point you are pretty close to where you were when you started.
Now, CID Unlock your Phone! Use this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=249474
If you have followed the instructions and everything went okay then you can now flash any of the Roms you (except one that are marked as G4 only since you appear to have a G3 Device).
sailors_be said:
Thank you for you reaction
Before flashing I had following situation
IPL 1.03
SPL 1.03.0000
GSM 1.410.0
OS 1.37.10
I didn't saw the thread wher it said that the isodoro flash wasn't a complete one. So I upgraded the device with this rom on the above config
After flashing with Isodoro I have same IPL and SPL no GSM anymore and OS 2.26...
I have no USB connection anymore, I supose I can not flash anymore. The device is extremely slow. The only rescue I see is eventualy to flash the device again with the mini SD.
Before I started the first flash I did a CID unlock. Actualy i don't now if it is locked again.
If tou need more info don't hesitate and thanks for helping.
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Looks like you flashed a 2.xx rom with no bootloader into a 1.xx system.
First try a full 2.xx rom from a carrier (cingular 2.25 comes to mind) then reflash the rom you want. Be careful playing with the phone in the current state as the battery will drain and not re-charge. I had to have a friend charge my battery for me when I did this same thing.
many thanks
I followed the procedure you give and recuperated my phone.
Thanks a lot for the assistance.
Merry christmas and happy new year
Jean-Michel
Hi,
I have a dutch HTC wizard/qtek 9100, with the AKU 2 NLD ROM.
I tried CID unlocking but noticed that didn't work with AKU 2,
Is it possible my phone isn't cid-locked? Is there a quick way to check?
How can I downgrade to an older rom version and what file should I use,
I tried this one: "RUU_Prodigy_1030710_110_10410_Qtek_NLD_Ship.exe"
but after restarting my wizard and loading the bootloader the update program gave an error claiming that it can only UPgrade to newer versions...
I suppose I cant use the wwe version or can I?
well, thanx in advance,
Bonusbartus
As written before, u need AKU 1 to CID unlock your phone..the only way to be sure is to unlock again. Use buttons rom.. downgrade to that... unlock the phone.. install the rom again so the IPL and SPL are the same..then you can switch to whatever rom you want. How ever, you havent shown what type of Wizard you have whether its a G3 or a G4..the above method is what i used for my G3 Wizard
I have a g3 wizard,
so I can use that rom, I don't need a dutch version or something else?
Bonusbartus said:
Hi,
I have a dutch HTC wizard/qtek 9100, with the AKU 2 NLD ROM.
I tried CID unlocking but noticed that didn't work with AKU 2,
Is it possible my phone isn't cid-locked? Is there a quick way to check?
How can I downgrade to an older rom version and what file should I use,
I tried this one: "RUU_Prodigy_1030710_110_10410_Qtek_NLD_Ship.exe"
but after restarting my wizard and loading the bootloader the update program gave an error claiming that it can only UPgrade to newer versions...
I suppose I cant use the wwe version or can I?
well, thanx in advance,
Bonusbartus
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1. Thank-you for posting in a new thread and not in a ROM release thread.
2. Do you have a G3 or G4 (what is your IPL/SPL?)
2a. If you have a G3 read the Sticky post The Definitive Guide to Unlocking & Rom Upgrading G3 Wizards.
2b. If you have a G4 log onto the IMEI pay site (links all over the place) and pay to get your phone unlocked.
3. IF you have a G3 rom you must downgrade to CID unlock. It isn't possible to CID unlock from AKU2 or higher (read the sticky, it tells you what you need to do)
4. The best thing to do if you are unsure is to just repeat the unlock procedure. It won't hurt a thing if you are already unlocked, but will unlock you if you are locked.
5. Don't do anything flash related until you know for sure, beyond a doubt which version of Wizard you have (G3 or G4) If you have a G4 and use G3 procedures you WILL most likely ruin your device.
6. You won't get this error if you follow the steps in the correct order from the upgrade guide.
7. Good Luck
Bonusbartus said:
I have a g3 wizard,
so I can use that rom, I don't need a dutch version or something else?
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With your G3 just follow the steps, in order, from the sticky and you should be able to end with whatever ROM you choose. Some of the steps may not make sense but, they are necessary and prevent common issues if followed correctly.
Well, I do have a G3 so I can follow the tutorial,
ipl and spl are 2.18,
only question left, CAN I downgrade to the wwe rom in the tutorial? that's what I wanna know, because I now have a nld rom, can I flash to the wwe rom in the tutorial without CID-unlocking?
well I think I just try
thanx
oh btw, any recommendations on which rom to flash to after unlocking? and I saw something about radio only roms and page-pools what would u recommend there?