http://www.mobile-review.com/pda/articles/wm-crossbow-en.shtml
interesting.
Thanks for the review
Its not WM6, its WM5 SE.
_TB_TB_ said:
Its not WM6, its WM5 SE.
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Just because it's not Based on CE 6 it does not mean it's not WM6. Feature-wise, YES it is WM5 SE. But label-wise, looks like it will be called WM6... I'd prefer to have it called WM5 SE to keep WM and CE major version numbers in sync though.
Most of the existing models won’t receive an update to Windows Mobile Crossbow, since a communicator is not a desktop PC and there is no way for downloading from somewhere a new version of OS and installing it outright, even though no restrictions on hardware are seemingly in effect.
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Well, it seems that reading xda-developers is better lecture than this "review".
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Has anybody checked out Microsoft's new mobile site? while working through the various menu options/links... keep an eye on what the programs LOOK like. Outlook, Contacts, Excel, Word, etc all LOOK different to WM6!
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsmobile/startdoingmore/
I'm guessing this website is based upon WM6.1 ?? Just an idea
Click Start > See the Experience > Stay More Connected and a Kaiser pops up. Its also under the phones section.
Yeah I noticed that!! I wonder why don't they have it listed on the main screen of phones though! oops!!! I take that back! just needed to drag the scroll bar to the right Glen... doh!!
Wow that looks fab. Either it's just fake mockups or it's Photon (windows mobile 7).
Taken from microsoft-watch.com regarding the WM roadmap:
Microsoft is working to deliver Photon, the successor to Crossbow, to cell phone and PDA providers by Q4 2007, and launch it officially in the first or second calendar quarter of 2008, according to slides from a Microsoft official's March TechDays presentation. Photon will include a "new flexible shell, modular containers and the 'Yamazaki' Windows CE kernel," according to information on the slides.
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To be fair, MS need to pull their finger out... although I'd NEVER buy an iPhone, I have to admit my eyes starting watering when I played with it the other day - the OS is beautiful!
Photon will include a "new flexible shell, modular containers and the 'Yamazaki' Windows CE kernel,"
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ZOMG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!111111111111111111111 4
YAMAZAKI! I CAN'T WAIT!!!!!!!!!!!!11111111111LOL! 4
What the hell is a Yamazaki?
Apparently Windows CE versions from 4.0 onwards are named after whiskeys... and apparently Yamazaki is a whiskey... don't ask me!
CE 6 (Yamazaki)
And Wikipedia has only a small amount of information on Photon:
Windows Mobile
Microsoft is currently working on an upgrade to the Windows Mobile platform codenamed Photon that will be powered by Windows Embedded CE 6.0. Leaked videos of devices running the software show a new graphical interface. The software would merge both Smartphone and Pocket PC versions in one Windows Mobile version - the new interface optimized for both direct touch and button-based interaction, reducing stylus use. Microsoft Photon has been in development since the release of Windows Mobile 5 and is scheduled for release in the first half of 2008.
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See that bit about "direct touch"...
mmm_ok said:
Apparently Windows CE versions from 4.0 onwards are named after whiskeys... and apparently Yamazaki is a whiskey... don't ask me!
CE 6 (Yamazaki)
And Wikipedia has only a small amount of information on Photon:
Windows Mobile
See that bit about "direct touch"...
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Here's to hoping for a free upgrade
I'm sure the ROM cookers on here will make a "free" upgrade ;-)
There is a webcast of Windows CE 6.0 R2 launch this friday morning... although its mainly for the developers, it will still be interesting to see whats truly new in CE that WM will be able to make use of.
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/embedded/CE6R2LaunchWebcast.mspx
Windows Mobile 6.1 will be formally released next week Looks official!!
Tuesday Pocket Lint reported ( http://www.pocket-lint.co.uk/news/news.phtml/13612/14636/windows-mobile-61-coming-april.phtml) that Microsoft is ready publish the latest version of Windows Mobile, time will be next week Tuesday. The Microsoft Windows Mobile team member in charge "Robbie Bach" had earlier mentioned this at the CTIA Wireless conference in Las Vegas during a keynote speech. Windows Mobile 6.1 will be the last version 6.0 release of the first major update. Earlier this year the title leaked out (http://www.boygeniusreport.com/gallery/handsets/windows-mobile-61/) showing that 6.1 might use a smoother interface than the 6.0 interface, but it is unclear if that is a smart phone only or will be related to EM Pro devices also.
Windows Mobile 6.1 is supposed to increase on the basics of improvements much like the WM5 to WM6 transition.
Next year, Microsoft is expected to follow the script Mac OS X, introduced a with a new touch-screen user interface for the Windows Mobile 7. ( http://209.85.135.104/translate_c?h...a.cn/+&hl=en&safe=off&rls=com.microsoft:en-us )
Finally I need to point out that next Tuesday is April Fool's Day, but this is only a coincidence I hope.
See the above links for the Details from MS blogs.
LOOKS official... that is a UK website. is there any news of 6.1 being released in the US? what meger searching i did proved fruitless and i was just wondering if anyone has seen nething about it
should say "released to oems" not you and me
as per the way microsoft rolls out "updates" to windows mobile, device manufacturers are responsible for porting and making updates available per device. availability is usually sorted
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i know this is a stupid question....im am new to this, and this is my first windows mobile phone. I have the tilt and I know its running WM6.0, is it going to be available to download for us? for free? sorry for the noob question
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i know this is a stupid question....im am new to this, and this is my first windows mobile phone. I have the tilt and I know its running WM6.0, is it going to be available to download for us? for free? sorry for the noob question
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go to the kaiser rom development and read the wiki and yes is the answer in simple terms
yea 6.1 will be free because its a minor update only... WM7 will not be free but it doesnt release until later next year... Also, 6.1 is available in parts in some of the roms on this site... Its not worth it unless ur a fan of threaded SMS... it has nothing so important to upgrade...
I am just waiting for pointUI to come out with version 2.0
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yea 6.1 will be free because its a minor update only... WM7 will not be free but it doesnt release until later next year... Also, 6.1 is available in parts in some of the roms on this site... Its not worth it unless ur a fan of threaded SMS... it has nothing so important to upgrade...
I am just waiting for pointUI to come out with version 2.0
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What can we expect in pointUI 2.0?
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yea 6.1 will be free because its a minor update only... WM7 will not be free but it doesnt release until later next year... Also, 6.1 is available in parts in some of the roms on this site... Its not worth it unless ur a fan of threaded SMS... it has nothing so important to upgrade...
I am just waiting for pointUI to come out with version 2.0
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pointUI will definitly be great but as long as you end up in the "classic" applications behind I find the finger-controls more or less worthless. Therefore I really look forward to WM7. This could be a really revolutionary WM release.
As i found some news which is related to Microsoft that plans to release Windows Mobile 6.5 instead of Windows 7 during 2009. More detail click here
wow! have to check this out!
yes its a week old news, microsoft plans to launch it before WM7, lets hope our Hima are still capable for the challenge ;D
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yes its a week old news, microsoft plans to launch it before WM7, lets hope our Hima are still capable for the challenge ;D
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Yeah, i hope so..............
upgrade
soon I am gonna have the new htc touch pro 2. it is said to have been already upgraded with wm6.5. I have alot of programs that run on wm6.1. do they no longer work on 6.5???? what is gonna happen when windows mobile 7 comes around all the programs will be useless as well???
yes they all will work, as far for Windows Mobile 7, it will not besupported by TouchPro2, a device by HTC, named "Leo" is coming which has the first snapdragon processor (1GHZ), that might be supported..
Hello!
As most of you people know, the next version of Windows Mobile will be probally version 6.5 ...
My question is: what if microsoft releases this version, are we able to download it for free through our mobile with windows update?
Or will we have to pay for a new version?
This is my first time windows mobile, so i'm not sure about windows mobile updates, how things work.
Could someone explain me?
And P.S.: In februari the world mobile congress is there. Any change 6.5 will be released around that time?
Some of the "big" fabricators gave out (free) updates from WM5 to WM6, so the chance that there will be updates from 6.1 to 6.5 (or 7) is imho pretty good.
Maybe they will give an opportunity to update via HTC site however usually they only support the newest devices so maybe they'll realese WM 6.5 for Diamond but I'm not sure about 7 But propably if it won't use Multitouch or something like that I think somebody will port it
Updates...
Unfortunately, Microsoft doesn't give ROM updates to end users... that's up to network operators or OEM's (original equipment manufacturers - HTC for example). I've been using Windows Mobile devices for nearly 10 years now, and my experience tells me, as far as WM6.5 is concerned, we have 'little' chance of an official update for the Diamond - WM7 'no' chance!
However, these wizards here at XDA will give us the ROM's in one form or another, so don't hold your breath for genuine ROM updates of any significance!!
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Some of the "big" fabricators gave out (free) updates from WM5 to WM6, so the chance that there will be updates from 6.1 to 6.5 (or 7) is imho pretty good.
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Agreed, HTC did that before
The official updates from HTC or the operators usually take some time to be made available. The unofficial updates though come much quicker at this wonderful XDA forum here.
We may get 6.5 but 7.0 i don't think so because of the hardware limitations maybe for the CDMA version because has a better configuration
Windows Mobile 6.5 which is due out in the 4th quarter of this year will be available to some WM 6.0 and WM 6.1 phones. Sure hope htc gets on the band wagon and upgrades our Kaisers. (Doubtful though).
http://www.pocketpcthoughts.com/news/show/92572/windows-mobile-6-5-screen-shot-walk-through.html
Jim
It's already been announced by MS that there will be no upgrades to WM6.5 for current phones.
Anyway, there are a few decent WM6.5 roms out in the ROM Dev forum...
im using wm 6.5 and i dont like it. too much bug and very slow. stick to wm 6.1 unless wm 7 comes out.
My hope, a cooked WM6.5 liked original config. has (icons, feature, applications) and they are working well
If it's a lite version, then just be as original graphics has..
Ah, it's just a dream..
6.5 isnt that great.
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It's already been announced by MS that there will be no upgrades to WM6.5 for current phones.
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Actually according to this post at engadget mobile, in the last paragraph, it says that Microsoft will now, at the discretion of the device manufacturer, provide a 6.5 upgrade to any device with at least a 400MHz processor and 128MB ram. I still doubt that we'll get an official upgrade since HTC wants us to buy new phones from them. Here's the text for anybody who's interested:
Finally, Microsoft's issued a clarification regarding upgrades from 6.1 to 6.5: devices that are already out in the marketplace with a minimum of 128MB of RAM and a 400MHz processor or better are theoretically capable of being upgraded -- it's all up to licensees to decide whether they want to go to the trouble of offering the upgrades to their customers
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Here's Pocketnow.com's interpretation:
According to Engadget Mobile, Microsoft is amending its upgrade policy for Windows Mobile 6.5. The company is now stating that if you own a Windows Mobile 6.1 device with at least a 400 MHz and 128 MB of RAM, it is up to the device maker to offer an upgrade path or force you to buy new hardware. Can we see a Touch Fuze on AT&T with Windows Mobile 6.5? The "Home" button instead of the "Start" button that was previously required for Windows Mobile 6.5 will surely save some people a few hundred on new hardware.
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Dave
DaveTheTytnIIGuy said:
Actually according to this post at engadget mobile, in the last paragraph, it says that Microsoft will now, at the discretion of the device manufacturer, provide a 6.5 upgrade to any device with at least a 400MHz processor and 128MB ram. I still doubt that we'll get an official upgrade since HTC wants us to buy new phones from them.
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Glad to hear better news about that, thanks.
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Glad to hear better news about that, thanks.
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I am pretty sure that is the way it went from 6.0 to 6.1. HTC said yes to some models and no to others. MS doesn't care who replaces one phone with another newer one, they sell a license either way.