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After the repairing of my X1's ribbon cable I went home gladly with my X1 functional... partly..
I noticed there's an error in signal in my X1 when I was checking my phone at the SE center.. But I thought it was maybe due to poor reception thus I neglected it..
Now I know that there's some new problem arise.. Any idea how a ribbon cable can affect this?
The signal error is not due to flex, but most likely an assembly error/other fault. Could you explain better what type of error are you getting, e.g. SIM is not read, connection cannot be made, calls cannot be made, data is not received?
Flex contains connectors for front camera, ear speaker, LCD, light sensor, front keypad PCB and optical keypad module, as well as LED lights on all sides positioned on the flex itself - therefore problems with any of the above can be attributed to the flex. However, flex consists of different separate areas, where problem with one will not necessarily mean the whole lot of things will be affected. For example, not working ear speaker may be present with working rest, VC camera not working, while LCD is fine etc. When the lot fails as a group, then the problem is either flex at the slide point, flex at the PCB connection point or the main PCB itself, in which case it may not necessarily be the flex. So what is the new problem?
enigma1nz said:
The signal error is not due to flex, but most likely an assembly error/other fault. Could you explain better what type of error are you getting, e.g. SIM is not read, connection cannot be made, calls cannot be made, data is not received?
Flex contains connectors for front camera, ear speaker, LCD, light sensor, front keypad PCB and optical keypad module, as well as LED lights on all sides positioned on the flex itself - therefore problems with any of the above can be attributed to the flex. However, flex consists of different separate areas, where problem with one will not necessarily mean the whole lot of things will be affected. For example, not working ear speaker may be present with working rest, VC camera not working, while LCD is fine etc. When the lot fails as a group, then the problem is either flex at the slide point, flex at the PCB connection point or the main PCB itself, in which case it may not necessarily be the flex. So what is the new problem?
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It read my SIM card but I'm not getting any connection signals from my service provider.. Yeah most likely would be an assembly error
I really got annoyed that I need to go back to the service centre and fix it again. Today I went there and they said technician aren't there and I need to return tomorrow.
Thanks for the reply. Now I learned something from you. Thank you
Ethan Liew from Malaysia
The antenna module is very easy to access, see disassembly procedure and see if you can reposition it. http://www.formymobile.co.uk/xperiadisassembly.php Speaker and antenna module is positioned on the side OPPOSITE to the camera, you can see removal on photo 4.
enigma1nz said:
The antenna module is very easy to access, see disassembly procedure and see if you can reposition it. http://www.formymobile.co.uk/xperiadisassembly.php Speaker and antenna module is positioned on the side OPPOSITE to the camera, you can see removal on photo 4.
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I took my phone to the centre for another checkup. And sadly they can't even identify what's going on with my signal too. They're sending it to the HQ. Guessed it'll take another long time to be fixed. Hope I'll get Leo for free tonight. Then I'll just leave my X1 goodbye~
Whenever I try to use the rear camera the display turns black while only showing the HUD. The HUD works fine, but the camera doesn't work at all. Nothing is blocking it either.
When switching camera modes (to manual mode for example), an error pops up saying that the "camera is not available"
IMPORTANT NOTE: The front facing camera is working perfectly fine.
Things I tried to do (aside from shipping it for repair):
1. Android repair via the PC companion software
2. Internal reset
3. Safe mode
4. Clearing cache files for the built-in camera app
5. Installing an alternative camera app (the built-in one was disabled)
6. downgrade and upgrade
7.change camera for new one (tested)
I had same situation with regular Z3. Someone brings it to service where I'm working and my first think was camera fault but changing camera didn't fix it. Near camera connection You can see some small capacitors, we call it filters. It looks like capacitors but it's soldered not only on opposite sides but 2 points on both sides. In regular Z3 there was 5 elements like this to change and after that camera starts working. I don't remember how exactly it's made in Z3c but it's really possible that it's the same issue and same way to fix it.
One more thing, if You can check one one more camera to exclude camera itself cause most issues like this are caused by faulty camera. I had many phones (most Z1 and Z1c) with this issue and changing camera always was the solution.
Good luck.
Same Here. Need help too.
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I have three cameras and two z3c, I interchange camera and phone and always the same result
At this moment I don't have any Z3c to disassembly (except mu own but under warranty) to check where those capacitors are but if You could take a picture of camera connector on motherboard and near area I can mark which one should change.
@Chamelleon
Main camera not working
I have the same issue with my Z3 compact. The issue started happening on the 11th month of my one year warranty, I sent it for repair (14 business days y + shipping time back and forth). It came back with the same issue. Sent it back right away. After another three weeks without my phone, I got it back. Guess what? EXACT SAME ISSUE!
I called their support line explaining what happened, the guy told me that there is nothing they can do about it since my warranty expired. Of course they didn't have in consideration that I sent my phone before it expired and it took about seven weeks back and forth. There wasn't any sort of damage on my phone, was never dropped or damaged in any way, I never submerged it even if in theory, that would be ok. The report said "it has reviewed the functioning of the unit, unfortunately the defect is in the PCB so it is not able to undergo repairs to it."
The guy on the phone told me what he thought the report meant. It means there is damage on the main board(not caused by me) and the one year warranty manufacturer warranty department won't repair it. Maybe, if I had bought the 2 year "extended" warranty, they could do something about it. I asked if the issue is that my one year warranty was expired or if it is something that they just don't fix unless you get the "extended" warranty. He couldn't answer me and the only thing he said was "is there anything else I can help you with?"
From what I understood, there are two completely different departments, the one year manufacturer warranty that only cover some things. Not even sure what, because if it's broken screen, water damage or any physical abuse, they won't fix it. If it's a problem with the main board or PCB, they won't fix it either. It is a mystery to me what gets fixed in that department. The other department is the 2 year extended warranty. I'm not sure what they are willing to fix there, but from what they guy on the phone told me, it's more than the one year regular warranty.
Long story short, after two trips to FedEx, at least 8 hours total on phone calls, more than 7 weeks without my phone, I ended where I started. Sorry Sony, never again. Worst customer support I have ever experienced.
At this photo I can see only 4 of this capacitors and marked it, maybe it should be four or one I missed cause quality. Anyway regular Z3 has 5 like this and after changing all 5 camera start working again. You can desolder it from most Sony phones, I used capacitors from MK16 (Xperia Pro). So find some Sony board with capacitors like this and ask someone with good hot air solder station (if You don't have one) to change it.
Any news to this problem? I bought used Z3C with black rear camera problem because it was cheap. (Yes, the front facing camera is working perfectly fine). So far I have only tried software fixes and obviously they didn't help. I ordered new camera module from ebay and I'm now waiting for it. Has anyone tried soldering new capacitors if the new camera module doesn't help?
EDIT: Here is another thead with same problem: http://forum.xda-developers.com/z3-compact/help/rear-camera-hardware-detected-black-t3231509
As I said I've done it only in regular Z3 but If You gonna try give me some info is this solution is also working in Z3c case.
Chamelleon said:
As I said I've done it only in regular Z3 but If You gonna try give me some info is this solution is also working in Z3c case.
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I'm still waiting for new camera module. If the new module is not working I will try soldering new capacitors. I will keep you up to date here .
Any news??
Completely forgot to post this, hope it help someone. I made the same thing with black camera on my Z3c. After I broke audio port in my Z3c and had to send it to warranty I took my gf phone, Z3c also. I restored my TWRP backup to her phone and all except camera was working. Camera was completely black but only main, front was OK. After that I was afraid that it's another hardware problem like Yours but after reflashing to stock problem gone. I repeated it few times to check if I'm right and I was. After flashing backup from another phone even without TA and Kernel backup there is a problem with camera.
So I was wrong saying it's only hardware problem. If anyone still has this issue and didn't reflashed his phone check it first.
@Chamelleon yes it's somehow a software problem (if we could say that ). For me i did fix it.
I did a Nandroid backup for my black Z3 compact (camera works properly) an restored it on my new White Z3 compact (also camera woks fine). after restoring the white z3c rear camera shows black screen, the front one is good.
=> i did a format factory reset : didn't work.
=> flashed a TFT file : didn't work.
=> flashed a D5803_23.4.A.1.232_Customized FR.ftf : IT WORKS !
and then i remembered that my phone was from "SFR" , a french network provider.
i hope this helps also
Edit: too new account, would be nice if a mod unlocks the posting of the direct image links and fixes the links - I think they are useful as this is a common problem and i already invested hours translating russian and documenting my research nobody else should have to do it
for me it was a hardware problem after dropping it.. I even changed the camera module.
Did some reseach, russian sites have some input:
Layout1: directupload.net/file/d/4472/9andayji_jpg.htm
Layout2: directupload.net/file/d/4472/vzvgbqqo_jpg.htm
It was loose, but when i tried to push it down with a hot metal to "solder" it, at some point it jumped away and was lost because it is so tiny!
Missing part: directupload.net/file/d/4472/qmut35qt_jpg.htm
The russian site suggest this soldering of bridges, however its not clear to me if they mean one of this electronic pieces (4pins each) or also the lower one.
Russian: directupload.net/file/d/4472/ag43kmda_jpg.htm
The question is now how these (likely) filters (because so close to the camera have to be bridges, it seemed to have worked for some russians:
Pins: directupload.net/file/d/4472/k86j53hr_png.htm
Not sure if there are 4 indipendend pins or if for those small footprints of electronic devices they use only the edges and then they have the same signal.
I was not able to see any text written on those two things, however i didnt have any magnifying glass.
basmok said:
Edit: too new account, would be nice if a mod unlocks the posting of the direct image links and fixes the links - I think they are useful as this is a common problem and i already invested hours translating russian and documenting my research nobody else should have to do it
for me it was a hardware problem after dropping it.. I even changed the camera module.
Did some reseach, russian sites have some input:
Layout1: directupload.net/file/d/4472/9andayji_jpg.htm
Layout2: directupload.net/file/d/4472/vzvgbqqo_jpg.htm
It was loose, but when i tried to push it down with a hot metal to "solder" it, at some point it jumped away and was lost because it is so tiny!
Missing part: directupload.net/file/d/4472/qmut35qt_jpg.htm
The russian site suggest this soldering of bridges, however its not clear to me if they mean one of this electronic pieces (4pins each) or also the lower one.
Russian: directupload.net/file/d/4472/ag43kmda_jpg.htm
The question is now how these (likely) filters (because so close to the camera have to be bridges, it seemed to have worked for some russians:
Pins: directupload.net/file/d/4472/k86j53hr_png.htm
Not sure if there are 4 indipendend pins or if for those small footprints of electronic devices they use only the edges and then they have the same signal.
I was not able to see any text written on those two things, however i didnt have any magnifying glass.
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So I changed my camera because I thought it was a hardware failure (tried every other method before: going back to stock, wiping camera files etc.) and it STILL is black. Did you have any success with your camera?
mrfrantastic said:
So I changed my camera because I thought it was a hardware failure (tried every other method before: going back to stock, wiping camera files etc.) and it STILL is black. Did you have any success with your camera?
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Try flashing stock ROM based on your country as i mentioned up.
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So I changed my camera because I thought it was a hardware failure (tried every other method before: going back to stock, wiping camera files etc.) and it STILL is black. Did you have any success with your camera?
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Me not (also changed the HW cam), the guys on the russian site yes (even with other similar sony).
Just check if there is something loose, maybe you are lucky and its a software problem *fingers crossed*. To me it happend exactly after dropping (and changing the screen which went without problems) so I was quite sure its HW based.
basmok said:
Me not (also changed the HW cam), the guys on the russian site yes (even with other similar sony).
Just check if there is something loose, maybe you are lucky and its a software problem *fingers crossed*. To me it happend exactly after dropping (and changing the screen which went without problems) so I was quite sure its HW based.
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Hi basmok,
First off thanks for the research and for the pictures!
I have a similar story, phone was dropped, rear camera won't work, tried different ROMs without any luck then took phone apart and saw that one of the four tiny capacitors
just fell off and now it's MIA...
The last pic from your post (directupload.net/file/d/4472/k86j53hr_png.htm) which I assume shows the soldering of the bridge doesn't seem to work...
Do you still have that pic?
Also did you make any progress on the camera fix or gave up?
Thanks,
Ati
AtiGala said:
Hi basmok,
Do you still have that pic?
Also did you make any progress on the camera fix or gave up?
Thanks,
Ati
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You were lucky, they were already in the recycle bin and deleted on the camera. Best I could do picturewise, i dont have a macro lens. Here we go, added all to imgurl so hopefully they survive longer: http://imgur.com/a/Of1DY
And no, didnt make any progress as i dont know what component they are. Normally all components have lasered some code but not sure if its just too tiny for my eyes or if they dont have it. I was a bit unlucky as i didnt have a soldering tool, so i tried it by pushing the pin down with a paperclip which i headed with a lighter --- well it jumped away and was not the best approach
I bought this phone last year to test AT&T's coverage, but am considering promoting it to a more permanent position, so I am finally looking into some of its problems. This phone's camera takes pictures that are clear in the center, but blurry on the left (or top, when shooting in portrait) 20-35%, no matter what. There is a noteworthy dent on the back cover, so the question is if it is more likely that the problem is caused by the bent cover or by damage to the camera module itself. Any ideas?
Either way, you'll have to remove cover, so when you do, take a picture without it. If the problem goes away, it's the back case, replace it.
If not, it might be the camera module, replace it. Either is pretty cheap on Ali, but if you remove the back cover, order a new one. It's almost impossible to remove it without damaging it.
Good idea; will try!
daedric said:
Either way, you'll have to remove cover, so when you do, take a picture without it. If the problem goes away, it's the back case, replace it.
If not, it might be the camera module, replace it. Either is pretty cheap on Ali, but if you remove the back cover, order a new one. It's almost impossible to remove it without damaging it.
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That's pretty much what I was planning after researching things a bit. I'll order just a screen first, then dismantle the device and replace the screen, but hold off on putting the back cover on until test pictures have been taken. I'm excited to get this phone back into working shape!
There's A LOT of stuff you must remove from the screen, speakers, battery etc etc. It can be done, but pay attention.
Report back latter will you ?
Also, when you're putting the (new) back case on it, the top of the device goes first, not the bottom. Don't worry with the USB plug, worry with the power button/IR blaster and the top mic.
Not looking forward to it, but it should be an interesting experience
daedric said:
There's A LOT of stuff you must remove from the screen, speakers, battery etc etc. It can be done, but pay attention.
Report back later will you ?
Also, when you're putting the (new) back case on it, the top of the device goes first, not the bottom. Don't worry with the USB plug, worry with the power button/IR blaster and the top mic.
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I'll report back with the results either way. I have seen the videos showing how involved the process is and am not looking forward to it. This should prove to be an educational experience in surgical precision, keeping track of parts, not losing screws, and remembering what order things get installed.
1 down, 2 to go
Screen replacement was a success! :laugh: But wow, that was a lot of work. This has to be one of the most time-consuming screen replacements in the entire industry. As for the camera problem, the issue does persist with the back cover off, so it looks like I'll have to source a new camera module as well as a new back cover (which got slightly damaged in the process).
I'll upload some photos as the project progresses.
Fixed!... but with strings attached
Just to provide some closure for this fiasco, I did finally get the HTC One fixed and reassembled properly. Here's a quick recap:
Following the initial successful screen replacement, I bought a replacement camera module and back cover for the phone (because the problem persisted with the back cover off and because I had ruined the original back cover during the original disassembly). Upon installing both, I promptly reassembled the phone and discovered that the SIM card slot was no good on the replacement screen assembly. Talk about a major bummer!
From here, I was actually able to carefully remove the (shiny new!) back panel without causing any damage and requested a replacement screen assembly. Replacement was the wrong color. Two weeks later, the correct one finally came in, and I went through the (rather convoluted) procedure of painstakingly taking everything off of the screen assembly and placing it onto the replacement... again.
This time, everything worked, (including the SIM slot) so I slapped the back cover on, but was disappointed to find that the volume-down key had come out of alignment during the second back cover install. Also, the vibration motor had worked its way out of place and was rather noisy. For a third time, I ventured back in and managed to get the back cover off without causing much additional damage (there are some small marks on it now, but it still looks a heck of a lot better than it did before) and stuck some adhesive to the side of the motor in order to hold it into the slot better. I also performed the final snapping on of the back cover more carefully.
Finally, the phone is reassembled and fully functional. Camera photos no longer have a blurry edge, but are occasionally blurry either all over or in certain places. It is capable of taking completely clear shots though, which is interesting. Regardless, I've pretty much given up on getting this thing to perfection, and because of the fact that it isn't my daily driver, the camera not working right is not a dealbreaker. At any rate, it seems like finding a properly functioning camera module for this model is nearly impossible. Also, the right (bottom) speaker's volume is now sometimes a little quieter than the left (top) one, depending on the volume. As before, the MicroUSB connection still doesn't allow the cable to plug in all the way, which makes it really easy to accidentally disconnect, but it does still work fine.
With all that said, I've attached a picture of the repaired phone along with a new old-stock Incipio Feather grip casing that I found locally. The Incipio fits pretty nicely and I really like the feel of it, but debris sticks to it amazingly well. Even something as simple as wiping it with a cloth will leave behind a whole covfefe of specs. Liquid baptism and air drying is the only way to fully clean it.
TL;DR? Don't break your HTC One in a way that requires disassembly or repair. Ever. Even if the camera sucks, be thankful that it is fully functional (if it is). If you do attempt a repair operation of any kind, test the SIM card slot and camera (and speakers) fully before putting the thing back together and mind the volume keys as you put the back cover on.
So, the screen on my Note 4X broke, and I wanted to replace it. Long story short, the battery is glued down hard as **** and I managed to damage it, and it burst into flames. I'm fine, I was prepared, nothing but the phone suffered any damage.
But now I'm sitting here, with a phone that's basically still fine minus the frame and the battery, and I still want to repair it.
I'm faced with two questions, first of all, I managed to find (I think) every part I need, but one eludes me. I don't even know what it's for. You can see it here (minute 9:11-9:27):
https://youtu.be/MQazwoEssN0?t=556
It says "C6_LEDFPC_V1.0" on mine. Google tells me nothing about that, and it's not a part I have seen on the repair shop sites. It doesn't even seem to be present on complete frame+display assemblies like this one:
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/LCD...edmi-Note-4X-hongmi-Red-Rise/32810566637.html
And apart from that, I wonder if I missed any part.
I still have:
A new display+digitizer, the back cover, the mainboard with the SoC and the two cameras, the PCB with the charging board, the battery cable, the sim tray, the fingerprint reader, the loudspeaker.
I need:
A new frame, an earpiece, the mainboard flex cable, the side key flex cable, a battery, and the one mysterious piece.
Is that everything? Does everyone has a basic list of all the parts?
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So, the screen on my Note 4X broke, and I wanted to replace it. Long story short, the battery is glued down hard as **** and I managed to damage it, and it burst into flames. I'm fine, I was prepared, nothing but the phone suffered any damage.
But now I'm sitting here, with a phone that's basically still fine minus the frame and the battery, and I still want to repair it.
I'm faced with two questions, first of all, I managed to find (I think) every part I need, but one eludes me. I don't even know what it's for. You can see it here (minute 9:11-9:27):
https://youtu.be/MQazwoEssN0?t=556
It says "C6_LEDFPC_V1.0" on mine. Google tells me nothing about that, and it's not a part I have seen on the repair shop sites. It doesn't even seem to be present on complete frame+display assemblies like this one:
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/LCD...edmi-Note-4X-hongmi-Red-Rise/32810566637.html
And apart from that, I wonder if I missed any part.
I still have:
A new display+digitizer, the back cover, the mainboard with the SoC and the two cameras, the PCB with the charging board, the battery cable, the sim tray, the fingerprint reader, the loudspeaker.
I need:
A new frame, an earpiece, the mainboard flex cable, the side key flex cable, a battery, and the one mysterious piece.
Is that everything? Does everyone has a basic list of all the parts?
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I've been thinking that in the video, the guy switched on the phone without that part. so that part shouldn't be a very major component. In my opinion, it can be some sort of sensor. I personally feel its a magnet screen sensor for covers with smart wake up function.
The reason I say this is because when i touch a small magnet on the entire front panel, It gets stuck on that same point.
However I am not very sure as the smart wake is not triggered. Maybe it is because I am on LineageOS.
Hope It turns out helpful.
You will probably need the vibrator motor too, its quite small and easy to lose as I've found.
one like this:
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That part is the LED for the capacitive buttons. Not important at all if you cant find it
hello guys,
so a few days back my earphone jack went faulty and had to submit my mobile to authorized service center to fix it,
apparently they replaced whole motherboard instead and camera lenses with it (probably),
now my phone was working great except for one thing, the camera lenses had fingerprint marks on it, (yeah all of them from inside), so the images clicked had a little blur on them,
so i went back and showed the problem but they said there aren't any marks and they cant do anything, than i went to a local mobile repair shop and told them the same and the mobile repairers as stupid they are in my country told me it cant be fixed,
so i decided to do it my self and I removed the back cover which was easy, cleansed the lenses with glass cleaner,
and voila they were clear as crystal,
but some how my ultrawide lens wasn't as clean as other, so i cleaned it, again and again and now i am left with superblurry Ultrawide lens, the pictures turns out to be blurry and foggy,
now i need to replace it, so
WHERE can i GET it replaced and HOW MUCH customer care will charge me for the SAME,
Please help me out.
THANKX