Seeing that there are different versions of Breeze with and without the front camera I wonder if it would be possible to build a second camera into a phone w/o the front camera by oneself. Does anyone know what exactly is missing and what is there?
In a shop the shop assistant was able to press the housing apart a bit without having to take the phone apart, so it was possible to see into the housing. Unfortunately I was only able to take a quick look, but maybe someone with a Breeze can take a closer look?
Now that I can dispose of a SPV C700 I removed the part of the housing that covers the rear camera (can be done without screwing (up) anything, but one has to be careful because of the jog stick (or however you call this thing on the left side), it breaks off really easily, if you understand what I mean, ahem).
Anyway, where the front camera could have been there is only the bottom of the rear camera, nothing else. It seems to me as if this camera is simply replaced by a "double camera" with a lens on both sides on models like the dopod 595, though I have no clue what kinds of cameras are available on the market (I always was rather a software- than a hardware-geek). Maybe someone technically skilled could do such a replacement by oneself, if the needed connectors are there, but again, I have no such technical experience, so this is pure speculation.
Whenever I try to use the rear camera the display turns black while only showing the HUD. The HUD works fine, but the camera doesn't work at all. Nothing is blocking it either.
When switching camera modes (to manual mode for example), an error pops up saying that the "camera is not available"
IMPORTANT NOTE: The front facing camera is working perfectly fine.
Things I tried to do (aside from shipping it for repair):
1. Android repair via the PC companion software
2. Internal reset
3. Safe mode
4. Clearing cache files for the built-in camera app
5. Installing an alternative camera app (the built-in one was disabled)
6. downgrade and upgrade
7.change camera for new one (tested)
I had same situation with regular Z3. Someone brings it to service where I'm working and my first think was camera fault but changing camera didn't fix it. Near camera connection You can see some small capacitors, we call it filters. It looks like capacitors but it's soldered not only on opposite sides but 2 points on both sides. In regular Z3 there was 5 elements like this to change and after that camera starts working. I don't remember how exactly it's made in Z3c but it's really possible that it's the same issue and same way to fix it.
One more thing, if You can check one one more camera to exclude camera itself cause most issues like this are caused by faulty camera. I had many phones (most Z1 and Z1c) with this issue and changing camera always was the solution.
Good luck.
Same Here. Need help too.
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I have three cameras and two z3c, I interchange camera and phone and always the same result
At this moment I don't have any Z3c to disassembly (except mu own but under warranty) to check where those capacitors are but if You could take a picture of camera connector on motherboard and near area I can mark which one should change.
@Chamelleon
Main camera not working
I have the same issue with my Z3 compact. The issue started happening on the 11th month of my one year warranty, I sent it for repair (14 business days y + shipping time back and forth). It came back with the same issue. Sent it back right away. After another three weeks without my phone, I got it back. Guess what? EXACT SAME ISSUE!
I called their support line explaining what happened, the guy told me that there is nothing they can do about it since my warranty expired. Of course they didn't have in consideration that I sent my phone before it expired and it took about seven weeks back and forth. There wasn't any sort of damage on my phone, was never dropped or damaged in any way, I never submerged it even if in theory, that would be ok. The report said "it has reviewed the functioning of the unit, unfortunately the defect is in the PCB so it is not able to undergo repairs to it."
The guy on the phone told me what he thought the report meant. It means there is damage on the main board(not caused by me) and the one year warranty manufacturer warranty department won't repair it. Maybe, if I had bought the 2 year "extended" warranty, they could do something about it. I asked if the issue is that my one year warranty was expired or if it is something that they just don't fix unless you get the "extended" warranty. He couldn't answer me and the only thing he said was "is there anything else I can help you with?"
From what I understood, there are two completely different departments, the one year manufacturer warranty that only cover some things. Not even sure what, because if it's broken screen, water damage or any physical abuse, they won't fix it. If it's a problem with the main board or PCB, they won't fix it either. It is a mystery to me what gets fixed in that department. The other department is the 2 year extended warranty. I'm not sure what they are willing to fix there, but from what they guy on the phone told me, it's more than the one year regular warranty.
Long story short, after two trips to FedEx, at least 8 hours total on phone calls, more than 7 weeks without my phone, I ended where I started. Sorry Sony, never again. Worst customer support I have ever experienced.
At this photo I can see only 4 of this capacitors and marked it, maybe it should be four or one I missed cause quality. Anyway regular Z3 has 5 like this and after changing all 5 camera start working again. You can desolder it from most Sony phones, I used capacitors from MK16 (Xperia Pro). So find some Sony board with capacitors like this and ask someone with good hot air solder station (if You don't have one) to change it.
Any news to this problem? I bought used Z3C with black rear camera problem because it was cheap. (Yes, the front facing camera is working perfectly fine). So far I have only tried software fixes and obviously they didn't help. I ordered new camera module from ebay and I'm now waiting for it. Has anyone tried soldering new capacitors if the new camera module doesn't help?
EDIT: Here is another thead with same problem: http://forum.xda-developers.com/z3-compact/help/rear-camera-hardware-detected-black-t3231509
As I said I've done it only in regular Z3 but If You gonna try give me some info is this solution is also working in Z3c case.
Chamelleon said:
As I said I've done it only in regular Z3 but If You gonna try give me some info is this solution is also working in Z3c case.
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I'm still waiting for new camera module. If the new module is not working I will try soldering new capacitors. I will keep you up to date here .
Any news??
Completely forgot to post this, hope it help someone. I made the same thing with black camera on my Z3c. After I broke audio port in my Z3c and had to send it to warranty I took my gf phone, Z3c also. I restored my TWRP backup to her phone and all except camera was working. Camera was completely black but only main, front was OK. After that I was afraid that it's another hardware problem like Yours but after reflashing to stock problem gone. I repeated it few times to check if I'm right and I was. After flashing backup from another phone even without TA and Kernel backup there is a problem with camera.
So I was wrong saying it's only hardware problem. If anyone still has this issue and didn't reflashed his phone check it first.
@Chamelleon yes it's somehow a software problem (if we could say that ). For me i did fix it.
I did a Nandroid backup for my black Z3 compact (camera works properly) an restored it on my new White Z3 compact (also camera woks fine). after restoring the white z3c rear camera shows black screen, the front one is good.
=> i did a format factory reset : didn't work.
=> flashed a TFT file : didn't work.
=> flashed a D5803_23.4.A.1.232_Customized FR.ftf : IT WORKS !
and then i remembered that my phone was from "SFR" , a french network provider.
i hope this helps also
Edit: too new account, would be nice if a mod unlocks the posting of the direct image links and fixes the links - I think they are useful as this is a common problem and i already invested hours translating russian and documenting my research nobody else should have to do it
for me it was a hardware problem after dropping it.. I even changed the camera module.
Did some reseach, russian sites have some input:
Layout1: directupload.net/file/d/4472/9andayji_jpg.htm
Layout2: directupload.net/file/d/4472/vzvgbqqo_jpg.htm
It was loose, but when i tried to push it down with a hot metal to "solder" it, at some point it jumped away and was lost because it is so tiny!
Missing part: directupload.net/file/d/4472/qmut35qt_jpg.htm
The russian site suggest this soldering of bridges, however its not clear to me if they mean one of this electronic pieces (4pins each) or also the lower one.
Russian: directupload.net/file/d/4472/ag43kmda_jpg.htm
The question is now how these (likely) filters (because so close to the camera have to be bridges, it seemed to have worked for some russians:
Pins: directupload.net/file/d/4472/k86j53hr_png.htm
Not sure if there are 4 indipendend pins or if for those small footprints of electronic devices they use only the edges and then they have the same signal.
I was not able to see any text written on those two things, however i didnt have any magnifying glass.
basmok said:
Edit: too new account, would be nice if a mod unlocks the posting of the direct image links and fixes the links - I think they are useful as this is a common problem and i already invested hours translating russian and documenting my research nobody else should have to do it
for me it was a hardware problem after dropping it.. I even changed the camera module.
Did some reseach, russian sites have some input:
Layout1: directupload.net/file/d/4472/9andayji_jpg.htm
Layout2: directupload.net/file/d/4472/vzvgbqqo_jpg.htm
It was loose, but when i tried to push it down with a hot metal to "solder" it, at some point it jumped away and was lost because it is so tiny!
Missing part: directupload.net/file/d/4472/qmut35qt_jpg.htm
The russian site suggest this soldering of bridges, however its not clear to me if they mean one of this electronic pieces (4pins each) or also the lower one.
Russian: directupload.net/file/d/4472/ag43kmda_jpg.htm
The question is now how these (likely) filters (because so close to the camera have to be bridges, it seemed to have worked for some russians:
Pins: directupload.net/file/d/4472/k86j53hr_png.htm
Not sure if there are 4 indipendend pins or if for those small footprints of electronic devices they use only the edges and then they have the same signal.
I was not able to see any text written on those two things, however i didnt have any magnifying glass.
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So I changed my camera because I thought it was a hardware failure (tried every other method before: going back to stock, wiping camera files etc.) and it STILL is black. Did you have any success with your camera?
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So I changed my camera because I thought it was a hardware failure (tried every other method before: going back to stock, wiping camera files etc.) and it STILL is black. Did you have any success with your camera?
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Try flashing stock ROM based on your country as i mentioned up.
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So I changed my camera because I thought it was a hardware failure (tried every other method before: going back to stock, wiping camera files etc.) and it STILL is black. Did you have any success with your camera?
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Me not (also changed the HW cam), the guys on the russian site yes (even with other similar sony).
Just check if there is something loose, maybe you are lucky and its a software problem *fingers crossed*. To me it happend exactly after dropping (and changing the screen which went without problems) so I was quite sure its HW based.
basmok said:
Me not (also changed the HW cam), the guys on the russian site yes (even with other similar sony).
Just check if there is something loose, maybe you are lucky and its a software problem *fingers crossed*. To me it happend exactly after dropping (and changing the screen which went without problems) so I was quite sure its HW based.
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Hi basmok,
First off thanks for the research and for the pictures!
I have a similar story, phone was dropped, rear camera won't work, tried different ROMs without any luck then took phone apart and saw that one of the four tiny capacitors
just fell off and now it's MIA...
The last pic from your post (directupload.net/file/d/4472/k86j53hr_png.htm) which I assume shows the soldering of the bridge doesn't seem to work...
Do you still have that pic?
Also did you make any progress on the camera fix or gave up?
Thanks,
Ati
AtiGala said:
Hi basmok,
Do you still have that pic?
Also did you make any progress on the camera fix or gave up?
Thanks,
Ati
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You were lucky, they were already in the recycle bin and deleted on the camera. Best I could do picturewise, i dont have a macro lens. Here we go, added all to imgurl so hopefully they survive longer: http://imgur.com/a/Of1DY
And no, didnt make any progress as i dont know what component they are. Normally all components have lasered some code but not sure if its just too tiny for my eyes or if they dont have it. I was a bit unlucky as i didnt have a soldering tool, so i tried it by pushing the pin down with a paperclip which i headed with a lighter --- well it jumped away and was not the best approach
Hi guys, i've been using P10 for 4 months, everything was fine until today, today my back camera become blurry, when im taking pics black and white its all good, but normal pictures become blurry. Did somebody had that problem?
Assume you have given the lenses a wipe? Could be the colour shooter has grime or scratch or something on it?
Yeah i wiped them, funny thing is that one for black and white has scratch, and this one is fine, there is nothing on it, yesterday it worked just fine.
Exactly the same problem here!.
No scratches on the lens either.
I ordered a replacement lent assembly and fitted it. = Same problem.
Tried deleting cache for camera and hard rebooting/resetting phone to factory = Same problem.
It definitely isn't the outer lens as i stripped the phone(removed outer back lens) and the camera is blurry in colour mode still.
Very very rarely it starts working again briefly, but will go blurry again quickly. It is frustrating. I have fitted 2 lens's thinking the first must be faulty. The costs are adding up.
I have just rooted my phone, now i need to work out how to flash it! I hope flashing will solve it. If not its going to be a main motherboard issue i suspect.
Same problem here for months. I replaced two cameras already... Any news on this from someone? Maybe a software problem? I didn't update for months, because I was too lazy to manage rooting again.
Hello, i have following problem with P10 camera:
Model VTR-L29, Firmware VTR-L29C10B120.
The focus in the main camera ceased to work. There was no way for me to apply the guarantee, so I have disassembled the phone and tried out three new replacement cameras from Ebay (Index Sunny B1730 and Sunny B1737). All do not work: the camera App immediately closes, other photo apps says that the camera is not found or is busy, AIDA64 does not find the camera too. Factory reset and cache delete has already been done several times. Several times I tried the original camera again and it worked (except the focus), but after I tried B1737 it stopped to work and now shows the same symptoms. Before the original camera stopped to work the camera App worked even without a camera and showed a gray screen, now it also turns off immediately. Maybe someone has an advise for me, thanks and sorry for my bad English.
hello;
first excuse my english i know its bad; please replace your original cam and for repair the focus juste tape on the frontal cam with your finger joint between 5 to 10 times not so hardley
i tray this it work 100/100
please share with others personne hou have the same problem
Another user had the same problem with the focus on his phone after he dropped it. He fixed it very simple.
Pick a place in your house where you have carpet on your floor. Now put the phone on the floor standing on the usb-connector. Push the phone over so it falls on it's back. Use you finger to keep it from bouncing back.
He said the focus worked after this procedure.
Good luck!
It's really works. Thank you. But this is just a temporary solution. I wonder if we replace with the original part (at authorized service centre) it will guarantee the problem will not occuring again?
GAMaus said:
Another user had the same problem with the focus on his phone after he dropped it. He fixed it very simple.
Pick a place in your house where you have carpet on your floor. Now put the phone on the floor standing on the usb-connector. Push the phone over so it falls on it's back. Use you finger to keep it from bouncing back.
He said the focus worked after this procedure.
Good luck!
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I had the same problem a month back after my phone fallen on the floor from my pocket. The camera could not focus and blurry picture quality. I tried everything I found in YouTube or any other forums but all are temporary solutions.
I then contacted Huawei Customer care and they changed the camera and delivered the phone same day. My phone was in under warranty period.
Its fixed now and working fine.
I think you need to send the phone to Huawei Customer care