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I know you're all sick of posts about Windows Mobile 5.0 - I've read the FAQ, ubt I'm still a little confused. I'm not really a hacker - a firmware update is a big deal to me, let alone a complete new ROM!!
In the wiki thing there are four versions of WM5 for the Blue Angel (Or XDA IIs as I knew it before I came here). Where have these come from? Are these unofficial hacks, which will void my warranty and not necessarily work? Why are there four different versions of what should be the same thing?
Do Microsoft themselves produce a WM5 update for this device? Is it officially supported? I have a corporate device, and I don't mind using this as an excuse to upgrade to the XDA Exec, but I don't want my boss to tell me I wasted money on a new device when I could have just upgraded mine to use MS Push mail.
Thanks, and sorry for the muppet n00b post!
>Where have these come from?
From talented people who thinks that original ROM sucks
>Are these unofficial hacks, which will void my warranty and not necessarily work?
Yes.
>Why are there four different versions of what should be the same thing?
They are like programs, some works better than others even though they are the same thing (e.g. web browser, all the same thing). And probably the most noticeable is the ext rom where different version will have different supporting software included.
>Do Microsoft themselves produce a WM5 update for this device?
No. Microsoft to not seems to support any WM5 (or W2K) device's OS. It is up to the manufacturer to do the supporting/upgrading. E.g. HP provide their own upgrades/support for older PDA (e.g. Hx4000 series) to upgrade to WM5
>Is it officially supported?
If you get an official update (e.g. from your phone company) it will be supported. But I don't there is an official upgrade to WM5 for BA devices. Double check and correct me if I'm wrong. But, you might get lucky/unlucky to have athe push mail support, I guess.
>I have a corporate device, and I don't mind using this as an excuse to upgrade to the XDA Exec, but I don't want my boss to tell me I wasted money on a new device when I could have just upgraded mine to use MS Push mail.
I would suggest you get a new one (as it is not your own money). Unless your boss or people around him is highly technical about HTC devices, it is very unlikely that he will know if there is an upgrade for it.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?p=310752#310752
There are some other posts describing the ROMs in this forum. Do a search for all the rom names in one query and you'll find discussion on them.
Excellent, thats answered all my queries! Thanks a lot...
And thanks for not hating me!
I figured this would be an appropriate place to ask this.
Last Week I purchased a used sx66/PH20B1 (cingular) and obviously looking to upgrade to WM 5.0
After a week of looking through this forum, I'm a bit confused as to which version I need. I don't want to turn my device into a paperweight.
I read the post of WM5 Roms summaries which was very helpful.
I saw the "ROM to WM 5 Build 14343 " for GSM PH20B1. at THIS post This seems like the most appropriate one But i'm not sure if this is like the best "unofficial" one to use. OR should I use one such as tuma or logout?
Benq-siemens has a ROM update on their website HERE
not sure if this is WM5 though..or just an update to WM2003
Please help
Thanks!
If yout thinking of uprading to WM5 to use push email then i'm afraid your out of luck, the push email element of WM5 first came out in AKU 2, so far no matter how hard we try (mainly tuatara, grats to him) no-one has managed to get anything above AKU 1.1 booting on a BlueAngel, so in short NO PUSH EMAIL!
looks lik your gonna have to get a shiney new universal
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If yout thinking of uprading to WM5 to use push email then i'm afraid your out of luck, the push email element of WM5 first came out in AKU 2, so far no matter how hard we try (mainly tuatara, grats to him) no-one has managed to get anything above AKU 1.1 booting on a BlueAngel, so in short NO PUSH EMAIL!
looks lik your gonna have to get a shiney new universal
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I don't care about Push email. I don't mind checking my email once and a while instead of getting it immediatly. I just want WM5 for the new features. (Maybe I'm crazy and it's not worth it :?: )
I just want to make sure I use the right ROM when upgrading so I don't destroy my device
Thanks for the info though..I didn't know that
my post was actually in reply to the first guy, i hadn't even read yours
with regards to your situation you can use any WM5 rom (TuMa, Logout's, Ivan's or ArtZ's) however you must edit the 'set operator.bat' in a text editor (I use notepad) so that all referances to 'PH20B' are changed to 'PH20B1', then follow the instructions in the readme as normal.
Personally on rom choice i would reccomend TuMa for ease of use (but wait until 1.5 as 1.3 is slow an 1.4 is buggy) or Ivan's as a clean rom that you can customise yourself.
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my post was actually in reply to the first guy, i hadn't even read yours
with regards to your situation you can use any WM5 rom (TuMa, Logout's, Ivan's or ArtZ's) however you must edit the 'set operator.bat' in a text editor (I use notepad) so that all referances to 'PH20B' are changed to 'PH20B1', then follow the instructions in the readme as normal.
Personally on rom choice i would reccomend TuMa for ease of use (but wait until 1.5 as 1.3 is slow an 1.4 is buggy) or Ivan's as a clean rom that you can customise yourself.
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Cool beans. thanks! Do these roms have applications such as Terminal Services, Windows Media Player 10, Outlook etc? (I didn't see it in the list, and not sure if you can download them) These are what I really want, And couldn't find info on where to download them.
And lastly, is it easy to revert back to WM2003 if you don't have the original ROM (Just incase it doesn't work out for me)
Sorry for all the questions. :?
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my post was actually in reply to the first guy
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I have a NAME, you know...
i can never do anything right these days...
sorry fishkake!
SkiRacer2144 said:
Cool beans. thanks! Do these roms have applications such as Terminal Services, Windows Media Player 10, Outlook etc? (I didn't see it in the list, and not sure if you can download them) These are what I really want, And couldn't find info on where to download them.
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yes they are inlcuded, you can find links in the BA WM5 wiki or by seaching this forum (they are all on teh first page )
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And lastly, is it easy to revert back to WM2003 if you don't have the original ROM (Just incase it doesn't work out for me)
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yes, just go to the seimens website and download thier latest update, that is easiest, however you can also mix and match bits of other 2k3se roms and use a later radio version (afaik 1.13 is the best)
hope this helps
Hi all,
as most of you probably knows, today an alleged new WM6 rom from PDAVIET has been released.
Far from being 'new', this rom is nothing other than a copy of the leeked WM6 rom we all know plus a lot of 3rd party tools ripped off, without asking permission, from Faria's Aku3.3 rom. An evidence is in the image posted below, it has been found inside PDAVIET's rom but, if you look at the logo, you'll see Faria's name. This is only one of the many evidences i can give you.
Moreover, this rom includes many bugs and inconsistencies due to the indiscriminate mixing of WM5 and WM6 files.
That said, having long discussed the problem with Faria, we've decided to post this message to warn you against this rom and to make clear the following points:
1 - Faria is NOT involved in any way with this rom, the guys who prepared it or the site which originated it. Similarly, he is not involved with any of the WM6 roms you may find in this or other forums/blogs/warez sites.
The presence of documents and images containing Faria's name inside pdaviet's WM6 rom is due to the fact they "borrowed" some 3rd party software made or arranged by Faria himself. This doesn't imply any involment of Faria in the WM6 rom developing/publishing.
2 - The same can be said for all the other developers in this forum: Bepe, Molski, me and others. We are not in any way to be connected to any of the leeked wm6 roms out there.
3 - We, faria and me, strongly advise you against the use of pdaviet rom in your devices. By copying Faria's work and mixing WM5-only with WM6 files without even realizing what they were doing, pdaviet guys have proved all their incompetence in rom developing/cooking. That said, Faria DECLINES every responsibility for every problem you may experience by using his tools inside pdaviet's rom.
4 - Considering the irresponsible and illecit use of his work, Faria decided to stop developing/fixing applications for use in WM6 roms. For this reason, he won't publish anymore programs, fixes or workarounds for any problem/issue concerning any WM6 rom. The development will restart when and whether Microsoft will allow us to post WM6 roms in this forum.
Hoping for newer and better WM6 roms (and for MS's permission to use them ) we want to express you our best regards!!!
Bye bye
Well, I posted immediately upon trying their first attempt it was a botched job from the get go. Sad to hear that Faria is stearing clear of WM6 support but I can't blame him. He doesn't "need" us for anything. He's been doing an awesome job just helping us get up to speed where he already is.
Thanks for all of your help so far Faria. It is much appreciated and you've been very helpful. We will be anxiously waiting for a WM6 release from you and the rest of the gang.
-Mc
Ill wait too for your release of a rom
That will be a long wait probably never because they will only release the ROM when this condition is met:
"The development will restart when and whether Microsoft will allow us to post WM6 roms in this forum."
It's very unlikely MS will allow it
Ill still use the the leaked wm6 rom but will wait for a cooked rom from faria or
the other develepers in this forum that have done good roms.
PDAViet
I'd like to add that the reason to stay away from PDAViet's WM6 ROM is due to moral and ethical reasons of how they used Faria's work.
The actual ROM is considerably faster than the clean WM6 ROM. You need to change a registry key once installed to fix keyboard layout for english users.
It's a shame they released the ROM in such a devious way. If it didn't have Faria's work it would be worthwhile to install until such time as a better WM6 ROM comes along. It's definitely much more useable than the clean WM6 ROM which was doggy slow.
Also, I haven't noticed any additional bugs or inconsistencies other than the clean WM6 ROM.
look people..you can use any ROM you come across,that does not bother us,we got rules in the forum,and so we will obey by them.the xda has given me allot and i for one will only release ROM in here.i owe to the xda.of course that Microsoft will not say "yes u can release" a ROM that is not even in the market,but things will cool down.Microsoft asked us to remove the Roms from the ftp,and they did very politely.now should the site be shut down or sued because we want something that is not even in the market?
just give it a Little more time thats all we ask.
Good Job
faria said:
look people..you can use any ROM you come across,that does not bother us,we got rules in the forum,and so we will obey by them.the xda has given me allot and i for one will only release ROM in here.i owe to the xda.of course that Microsoft will not say "yes u can release" a ROM that is not even in the market,but things will cool down.Microsoft asked us to remove the Roms from the ftp,and they did very politely.now should the site be shut down or sued because we want something that is not even in the market?
just give it a Little more time thats all we ask.
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After installing and using the 3.3 ROM that you had a hand in cooking I will gladly wait til you can oficially/legally release a cooked WM6 ROM. I agree that it was wrong for PDAVIET to use your work without permission so therefore I would not use that ROM. I understand the time that you put into something just to have it abused. I have learned alot just by reading all these posts and searching through the forums. I have been a member for over a year and really dont post unless its something that I definetely need help with. I would rather find it on my own and understand what Im doing rather than just install something and be completely dumb to what I just installed. Thank you all who are willing to help us and explain.
Makes perfect sence not too rock the boat when theres still so much live in the NEW 3.3 rom you only released this week
aSKED fOR tIME
faria said:
look people..you can use any ROM you come across,that does not bother us,we got rules in the forum,and so we will obey by them.the xda has given me allot and i for one will only release ROM in here.i owe to the xda.of course that Microsoft will not say "yes u can release" a ROM that is not even in the market,but things will cool down.Microsoft asked us to remove the Roms from the ftp,and they did very politely.now should the site be shut down or sued because we want something that is not even in the market?
just give it a Little more time thats all we ask.
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WE SHALL. ITS THE LEAST THAT WE CAN DO TO THANK YOU FOR ALL YOU EFFORTS.
faria said:
look people..you can use any ROM you come across,that does not bother us,we got rules in the forum,and so we will obey by them.the xda has given me allot and i for one will only release ROM in here.i owe to the xda.of course that Microsoft will not say "yes u can release" a ROM that is not even in the market,but things will cool down.Microsoft asked us to remove the Roms from the ftp,and they did very politely.now should the site be shut down or sued because we want something that is not even in the market?
just give it a Little more time thats all we ask.
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I actually was going to download the ROM yesterday and came accross the same views. There are other files in their forum that originate from here.
My view is that if you know of a tool that can help your viewers, explain the tool and link it to the thread that you found the tool at. They did not do that. I do not read Vietnamese but some of the apps I saw there were just blatantly stolen from here.
@FARIA: I truely agree with you when you say that Microsoft has been real good with their attitude with Mobile ROMS. I love their attitude where they have actually been very cool with leaving developers and phone companies develop/change the ROMs according to needs. I truely believe and respect Microsoft for them asking the ROMs to be taken off the FTP and doing it politely. Like I said on my other post, Microsoft attitude has changed for the better and I Love it !
@ Faria, Molski,bepe, risidoro and others :
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You guys have been great. Your solutions have truely helped me understand the WM. Without you guy's help, my learning curve would have been way higher. Keep on Keeping on Guys! Any help in reasearching or other you might need, please feel free to contact me.
dont use PDAVIET
i will not use PDAVIET WM6 roms!!
@faria - thanks for everything sir. i will patiently wait for the right time until your ROM arrives. more power
Didn't Faria just rip the HTC X-Button app off and put his name in it?
The 2 programs are EXACTLY alike.
lol not to start suttim but yea gldrush would seem so
GldRush98 said:
Didn't Faria just rip the HTC X-Button app off and put his name in it?
The 2 programs are EXACTLY alike.
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Put it this way. All of the cooked ROM are ripped off one way or another because MS never released it to the public. Even the HCT camera app is from HTC. In the mod screen which Faria put his signature you will see below it is "copy right 2000 - 2006" by HTC
I don't understand why some of the Posters in here are taking the "moral" high ground and declare that they won't use PDAVIET ROM, they despite it, etc...
The ROM runs great. The included apps are freeware. The camera app, copyright by HTC but extracted by Faria is posted in this forum and available to any Joe. I don't really care who cooked the ROM. As long as it run fast and good, I will use it. The most important thing for me is a good ROM not who did the cooking.
is the keyboard issue fixed?.. and what about these issues with wm5 files have u noticed them? hows this rom running for u.
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is the keyboard issue fixed?.. and what about these issues with wm5 files have u noticed them? hows this rom running for u.
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The keyboard has been fixed and will work with various language with the correct code (check the thread). I am not sure what WM5 issued that has been raised here. Haven't seen or read any where yet.
is it a little bit faster then the clean one or much faster? i dont wanna go thru reinstalling all my stuff if its just a slight performance increase.. know what i mean?
i cant see pdaviet rom in ftp site!!!can anyone let me know in ftp site in which folder pdaviet rom is so tat atleast i can see rom thorugh my eyes that its been posted or not!!!after that i wanna give my feedback!!
in which folder pdaviet rom is and whats the name of rom!!
...u should maybe READ the other threads.. jesus christ
If you were previously using the HTC or AT&T rom then i highly suggest you upgrade to Dutty's rom.
1. its faster.
2. way better battery life.
3. tabbed task manager at the top
4. more free rom and ram.
5. better design.
6. more i cant think of, try it! its great!
does it still have the colored touch flo icons?
mikeeey said:
If you were previously using the HTC or AT&T rom then i highly suggest you upgrade to Dutty's rom.
1. its faster.
2. way better battery life.
3. tabbed task manager at the top
4. more free rom and ram.
5. better design.
6. more i cant think of, try it! its great!
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Hope Dutty comes soon with a clean.. lite rom.. not to much added 3d party software
Does this new Rom also includes the Microsoft .NET Compact Framework 3.5 RTM?
look closer at the posts of his roms...they do have lite versions.
Bouloama said:
Hope Dutty comes soon with a clean.. lite rom.. not to much added 3d party software
Does this new Rom also includes the Microsoft .NET Compact Framework 3.5 RTM?
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o but he does, his "lite" roms, i dont like them, i installed one on accident and there was basicly nothing on it. its extremely basic, i ment to install his touchFlo rom, so im downloading it now.
i dont think .NET 3.5 is already on, but its avaible right there on the topic.
I prefer Lite Roms because I can control better what to install, update and remove. I'm using his lite rom no. 6 and its awesome.
palm sms needed with mms control bad or palms sms that controls your entire sms through htc home etc
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I prefer Lite Roms because I can control better what to install, update and remove. I'm using his lite rom no. 6 and its awesome.
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i thought that too, but this rom was soo "lite" that there was nothing unique about it. i mean it was really no different than installing a lite HTC rom.
How does one upgrade the ROM? Is it just a transfer like a cab and then installation in the device, or is it more complicated? Some instructions on how to do that would be very useful. Can you point out where to find them? If it all fails and one needs to go back, would a Sprite restore bring back the previous ROM? Are there any incompatibilities with pre-installed programs? The ftp site lists three different Hybrid TouchFlo programs. How do they differ? Which one is the best recommended?
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i thought that too, but this rom was soo "lite" that there was nothing unique about it. i mean it was really no different than installing a lite HTC rom.
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Well actually there's virtually no apps installed, not even the HTC ones. That means that I can install the ones I want. When there's an update, I feel that I can "properly" remove the old ones and install the new ones. They also come with some tweaks already included, and .NET 3.5.
So it feels like a "base pumped" ROM which I can fully customize.
Please give us some instructions on how you install a new ROM.
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Well actually there's virtually no apps installed, not even the HTC ones. That means that I can install the ones I want. When there's an update, I feel that I can "properly" remove the old ones and install the new ones. They also come with some tweaks already included, and .NET 3.5.
So it feels like a "base pumped" ROM which I can fully customize.
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yes i agree. its just that when i was saying his rom is unique, i think there's some pretty cool things on there, but im not sure what they are. like, i wouldnt know what to search for or what cab to install. so installing the lite rom i wouldnt even get those cool things.
however, if you want this rom not for the cool things he has, but for a blank rom, then the lite rom is the rom to get.
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Does this new Rom also includes the Microsoft .NET Compact Framework 3.5 RTM?
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If you are a very experienced user you may want a Lite ROM.
However, I found the fully loaded ROM has many advantages.
1. You may have some very useful softwares that you may not even aware they exist. So you will never look for those to put into the Lite ROM in the first place.
2. You will learn to use more applications and figure out good and bad ones first hand.
3. In the Lite version, you'll always find that the software that you need for the moment hasn't gotten installed even you have it in your download library. You'll miss the time and being agonized. As time goes time, you've accumulated all the right softwares in your custom machine, it is time to replace the machine with a new one. The current one just have never reach it full potential.
Kaiser has plenty memory space, a few extra softwares are not to kill it not like TOUCH which really just got a pretty face and no guts.
I recommend fully loaded ROM for casual users. Extra softwares do not increase weight of the machine provided the extra softwares do not cause stability issue. Stability usually caused by bad software. One lousy one can do it.
For example, I won't mind if I can get a 32G SD card and people loaded all the games and MP3 and Video for me.
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How does one upgrade the ROM? Is it just a transfer like a cab and then installation in the device, or is it more complicated? Some instructions on how to do that would be very useful. Can you point out where to find them? If it all fails and one needs to go back, would a Sprite restore bring back the previous ROM? Are there any incompatibilities with pre-installed programs? The ftp site lists three different Hybrid TouchFlo programs. How do they differ? Which one is the best recommended?
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I checked the wiki but still not clear.
I have the same questions as the above post.
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I checked the wiki but still not clear.
I have the same questions as the above post.
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If your still unsure on Flashing roms please read this first before attempting
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=332246
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If your still unsure on Flashing roms please read this first before attempting
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=332246
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Yeah, that's exactly why I haven't tried to reflash my tilt - The "directions" in that post are so unclear and incomplete...
Someone who can write needs to create a step by step guide - no unexplained acronyms, a complete list of everything that is needed, and maybe a little explanation about why you have to do some of the steps.
I would happily write a post with this info, except that the directions for flashing are so bad that I can't understand how to do it.
Answer some basic questions, like, "can you flash an OS with no Radio - can you flash a radio with no OS?"
When you refer to downloading a ROM - Does that mean to the PC or to the device? OK, I've entered bootloader mode - now what? What's the next step? When I DL the ROM to the device, where should it be stored? What makes up a ROM? Is it one file or a bunch of files?
These are just some of the basic details that should be in a set of directions for flashing.
The HardSPL directions that are built into the install are pretty good - they step the user through every little detail. We need that for "flashing", because based on the information on this forum, it's not inherently obvious how to do it.
Regards,
Jeff
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Yeah, that's exactly why I haven't tried to reflash my tilt - The "directions" in that post are so unclear and incomplete...
Someone who can write needs to create a step by step guide - no unexplained acronyms, a complete list of everything that is needed, and maybe a little explanation about why you have to do some of the steps.
I would happily write a post with this info, except that the directions for flashing are so bad that I can't understand how to do it.
Answer some basic questions, like, "can you flash an OS with no Radio - can you flash a radio with no OS?"
When you refer to downloading a ROM - Does that mean to the PC or to the device? OK, I've entered bootloader mode - now what? What's the next step? When I DL the ROM to the device, where should it be stored? What makes up a ROM? Is it one file or a bunch of files?
These are just some of the basic details that should be in a set of directions for flashing.
The HardSPL directions that are built into the install are pretty good - they step the user through every little detail. We need that for "flashing", because based on the information on this forum, it's not inherently obvious how to do it.
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Jeff
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First of all, please stop being so demanding when you are in the situation of asking for help. Nobody here has obligation to teach you what you need to do to YOUR phone. They don't get paid to do that. I would suggest you to head to tytn/Hermes' wiki page to learn more before you try on your phone http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Hermes
Tilt or tytn II are still fairly new device on the market. Since tytn and tytn II are similar in many ways, you can use hermes/tytn's wiki for reference. Many of us, myself included, learn the process of flashing, upgrading, downgrading, and modifying through countless experiments or through other members here. I'd say - flash your phone with hardSPL first, then you are safe to do the rest if you can follow the directions. Once again, I am not trying to discourage you to ask for help, but please do respect others and their works. They have contributed a lot of time to make this forum the best and make our phones even better.
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First of all, please stop being so demanding when you are in the situation of asking for help. Nobody here has obligation to teach you what you need to do to YOUR phone. They don't get paid to do that. I would suggest you to head to tytn/Hermes' wiki page to learn more before you try on your phone http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Hermes
Tilt or tytn II are still fairly new device on the market. Since tytn and tytn II are similar in many ways, you can use hermes/tytn's wiki for reference. Many of us, myself included, learn the process of flashing, upgrading, downgrading, and modifying through countless experiments or through other members here. I'd say - flash your phone with hardSPL first, then you are safe to do the rest if you can follow the directions. Once again, I am not trying to discourage you to ask for help, but please do respect others and their works. They have contributed a lot of time to make this forum the best and make our phones even better.
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I do not want to go offtopic, but you are waaaay out of line.
Ive been using online forums for 12 years now and have gotten to where I am because of nice,hardworking and helpful individuals.
Its Karma, in the end if you (people) help trick420 and I learn to flash our roms, they will benefit one day when they visit photography forums or want to travel to Northern Italy because I have posted very thorough articles and guides to Digital SLR Cameras and Lenses and travelling to places ive been.
His suggestions will in fact make this site better because it will allow others like him and me to learn and then eventually contribute to the forum. I personally am not a professional at WinMobile and have done my homework (read the wiki, googled terms,acronyms,procedures and so on) but have not really grasped the idea of flashing roms.
trick420 was not being demanding, you need to cool down.
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First of all, please stop being so demanding when you are in the situation of asking for help. Nobody here has obligation to teach you what you need to do to YOUR phone. They don't get paid to do that. I would suggest you to head to tytn/Hermes' wiki page to learn more before you try on your phone http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Hermes
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Point taken, but my post was a comment, not a request for help, and was not demanding, just an observation. I'm just stating what, in my opinion, is wrong with the instructions posted so far. They lack so much information that a noob simply cannot figure out what to do at times.
A noob is just that - a noobie... How can you expect them to know that a Tytn is similar enough to a Tytn II that the same things apply? How would they know that?
The thread that Dutty refers everyone to that is a "noob" is now 11 pages long. The worst part of it is, the instructions on the first few posts don't even apply to Dutty's ROMs now because he's building them as an executable file (Great idea by the way), which makes me think he's simplified it to the point that you don't need to read the "flashing" ROM.
My point is this - if I'm a noob and I want to learn how to flash, I have to dig through 11 pages of a stickied post that is a year old just to figure out one step of the process. It takes way too much work to figure it all out, and then you'd better make sure that you don't forget something along the way.
Flashing a ROM should be a process to be learned by a noob, not a journey of discovery like it is now.
The wiki or sticky for flashing should be redone for clarity. For me, the flashing process is like a combination of a heavily fragmented hard drive and trying to find a windows registry key without the use of a search function.
Again, I'm not complaining just for the sake of complaining. If someone wants to send me a detailed process for flashing via PM or email for the Kaiser, I'll write it into a document that the average semi-technical noob can use. But until I figure all of this out I can't help. I'm a hardware and software engineer by trade, and I know as well as anyone that the one thing a programmer hates to do is to have to document a project or write a spec. I'm offering to do that if you programmers will support my questions and help me craft a good, readable document for the masses.
Regards,
Jeff
trick420 said:
Again, I'm not complaining just for the sake of complaining. If someone wants to send me a detailed process for flashing via PM or email for the Kaiser, I'll write it into a document that the average semi-technical noob can use. But until I figure all of this out I can't help. I'm a hardware and software engineer by trade, and I know as well as anyone that the one thing a programmer hates to do is to have to document a project or write a spec. I'm offering to do that if you programmers will support my questions and help me craft a good, readable document for the masses.
Regards,
Jeff
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Me too, ill help write out the guide on a beginner to intermediate level.
hi all
this is going to sound stupid to many of you, but please, give me the time.
i have had the kaiser for a while now and been a member of modaco. but today was the first time i flashed my T2 to 6.1 using H-SPL. (link from modaco, the one with the modaco splash screen). anywho after seeing who easy it was to flash [ thanks hard spl devs ] i wanted to see what other roms there are.
however after browsing this site i just get confused with lots of releses with similar names, like throttle launcer...
i just dont know which to choose.
anywho i was wondering whether some could point me in the direction of a good 6.1 ROM which resemble the HTC diamond interface as much as possible (preferablly actually 6.1, not 6 with a theme, as 6.1 feel's much faster to me) because the diamond interface is much slicker than my current. also i would like it to have as little Non-stock software as possible.
many thanks, sorry for the stupid questions, it's a new world to me.
sorry for any spelling mistakes, ie the one in the title, i cant change that now.
I think you will either get 5 different replies or mods will close your thread... so, why don't you try each and every ones that you think you will like, and keep the one you like the most...
http://www.throttlelauncher.com/portal/
but it's real slow since kaiser don't have any graphic acceleration at all...
is throttle laucher based one 6.1? and what are your experience with?
oh hang is throttle launcher a CAB or a ROM that website you linked want me to download some cabs?
you say that TL is slow, and i am aware theat the T2 is slow as there are no drivers, i have installed the action class drivers will that help?
also mods plaese dont close/delete this, i'm completely serious, i just want some good advice.
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is throttle laucher based one 6.1? and what are your experience with?
oh hang is throttle launcher a CAB or a ROM that website you linked want me to download some cabs?
you say that TL is slow, and i am aware theat the T2 is slow as there are no drivers, i have installed the action class drivers will that help?
also mods plaese dont close/delete this, i'm completely serious, i just want some good advice.
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Throttle Launcher is just an application, it's not an OS. However some cooks (such as L26) have integrated the program into their ROM. You should go out and try all the ROMs out there and decide which one best fits your needs.
ok, but can you reccomend some, one of my issues is that i cant find, them all, as they are spread all over forum over many pages,
which do you use?
I personally use my own ROM (RevROM v3.33), however the popular ones are Garmin, ROMeOS, and Dutty's (a bit outdated but still popular).
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ok, but can you reccomend some, one of my issues is that i cant find, them all, as they are spread all over forum over many pages,
which do you use?
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Have a look through the kaiser wiki, there are 2 sections on the page 1 alist of cooked roms the other official releases, all 6.1 Roms are there. clik the xda wiki link at the top of the page!
lifanus said:
http://www.throttlelauncher.com/portal/
but it's real slow since kaiser don't have any graphic acceleration at all...
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Slow? Not on my Kaiser with Laurentius last Beta3 V10 ROM + new HTCClassAction's drivers
Definitive Answer... sort of.....
Howdy™
Out of curiosity, what will you be using your T2 for? Multimedia, classic PDA use, IT tool, navigational aide, etc...?
The reason why I ask is because, depending on your answer, there would be several ROMs to consider that carry both the basic functionality, as well as advanced functionality(with the help of additional programs) for each type of use you may want.
So the definitive answer would be, try em all!! Take time to read what each ROM contains or does not contain, as in the case of ROMs marked "Lite" or "No Thrillls". Make sure to read through the threads as well for any potential problem that a particular ROM may be having with a program or any bugs that may be found.
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also i would like it to have as little Non-stock software as possible.
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Only thing I would say to that is that you need to do the legwork and hunt down exactly what you are looking for. The forum search is an excellent (as well as the preferred way) of finding those "must have" programs for your T2. Also, check out some of the senior members signatures for links to file sharing sites, as they often host mirrors for popular programs as they become available. This is how I got my T2 to be EXACTLY the way that I wanted it to be.
So there you have it, the definitive answer. I do appologize if this sounds alot like **BEFORE YOU POST START HERE** FAQ, Wiki, Stickies & Tutorials - Suggestions Welcome! , but that was posted for a reason and should be adhered to as everyone here is donating their time and energy, so lets not waste it .
dobby156 said:
hi all
this is going to sound stupid to many of you, but please, give me the time.
i have had the kaiser for a while now and been a member of modaco. but today was the first time i flashed my T2 to 6.1 using H-SPL. (link from modaco, the one with the modaco splash screen). anywho after seeing who easy it was to flash [ thanks hard spl devs ] i wanted to see what other roms there are.
however after browsing this site i just get confused with lots of releses with similar names, like throttle launcer...
i just dont know which to choose.
anywho i was wondering whether some could point me in the direction of a good 6.1 ROM which resemble the HTC diamond interface as much as possible (preferablly actually 6.1, not 6 with a theme, as 6.1 feel's much faster to me) because the diamond interface is much slicker than my current. also i would like it to have as little Non-stock software as possible.
many thanks, sorry for the stupid questions, it's a new world to me.
sorry for any spelling mistakes, ie the one in the title, i cant change that now.
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Check this one out. ROMeOS 4.21
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=411692
Very fast, and no bugs at all I've found yet
First I'd like to mention that I am grateful for all the developers on XDA working on these phones. I'm no programmer but I know plenty who are in all fields so I can appreciate what you are all doing.
I just wanted to create this thread to see how close we are to getting our hands on the HardSPL for Rhodium and any updates on development.
I've had my Touch Pro 2 for about a week and half now and already bored with it. The phone itself is great, but Windows Mobile 6.1 seriously sucks.
I really want to start using Windows Mobile 6.5, which brings me to why I created this post.
If anyone can shed some light on this I'd appreciate it.
Adam
Olipro and cmonex are still searching for mobile devices with hynix memory to test some stuff.
In short, don't expect anything soon and have patience
what
how do we know if it has that memory so others can help look.
just asked permission to Olipro if it was ok if I wrote a tutorial regarding this...
Uhm...I'll open a new thread with step-by-step instructions on how to help them out
Hope it will help them. Gimme about an hour to write a detailed tutorial.
*EDIT* Tutorial is up: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=4035499#post4035499
hmm this thread will be good for the usual "hardspl waititing posts".. when release comes, we (olinex) will just create the real hspl thread, so mods will not have to clean up for release (like for topaz they had to).
as to why this flash type checking is so important: on topaz the hynix ones really just got lucky by not getting their mfg partition corrupt. (no one got it corrupt but as i said that was luck) i want to avoid any such problems on rhodium.
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hmm this thread will be good for the usual "hardspl waititing posts".. when release comes, we (olinex) will just create the real hspl thread, so mods will not have to clean up for release (like for topaz they had to).
as to why this flash type checking is so important: on topaz the hynix ones really just got lucky by not getting their mfg partition corrupt. (no one got it corrupt but as i said that was luck) i want to avoid any such problems on rhodium.
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Does this mean there is a feasible solution for Samsung based units ?
I am surprised that it makes a difference based on the fact HTC wont have made a separate spl for hynix based units. and rom upgrades will contain the same info...
can hard spl for samsungs be realeased with a link to the tutorial on how to ensure you have samsung?
darides tutorial suggests most people seem to have samsung anyway.
infact has ther been a hynix unit seen in the wild?
Cheers
Steve
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Does this mean there is a feasible solution for Samsung based units ?
I am surprised that it makes a difference based on the fact HTC wont have made a separate spl for hynix based units. and rom upgrades will contain the same info...
can hard spl for samsungs be realeased with a link to the tutorial on how to ensure you have samsung?
darides tutorial suggests most people seem to have samsung anyway.
infact has ther been a hynix unit seen in the wild?
Cheers
Steve
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Perhaps Olinex can make a version for samsung that checks on the sspl that the memory is samsung or not. to avoid bricks or other problems.
I have not seen or know anyone with hynix memory on their tp2 after checking about 5 different units from my friends and family they are all samsung. My vodafone one is samsung too.
it's great news for me
is it a problem if everybody have the samsung chipset ?
just letting you know no updates yet - was busy in real life
what is real life ?
thats, from where you getting the pizza... ;-)
SubData said:
thats, from where you getting the pizza... ;-)
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lol, yes.
SubData said:
thats, from where you getting the pizza... ;-)
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I prefer virtual pizza! I download it, print it and won´t get fat...
greets
Alfons
Please can we have an ETA for the release of the HardSPL.
Hi Guys,
I can't put into words how much I respect and revere the information posted on your web-site and I apologise for asking the million dollar question. But I need to know.
Can we please have an ETA / timeline for the release of the HardSPL for our HTC Rhodium.
I hate my Vodafone UK branded HTC Touch Pro 2. It is red and so am I with anger. Joking aside I love HTC standard ROM's. The last one I put on my HTC Touch Pro was amazing.
Please, keep up the work....
Kind regards...
Sumeet...
SumeetKapur said:
Hi Guys,
I can't put into words how much I respect and revere the information posted on your web-site and I apologise for asking the million dollar question. But I need to know.
Can we please have an ETA / timeline for the release of the HardSPL for our HTC Rhodium.
I hate my Vodafone UK branded HTC Touch Pro 2. It is red and so am I with anger. Joking aside I love HTC standard ROM's. The last one I put on my HTC Touch Pro was amazing.
Please, keep up the work....
Kind regards...
Sumeet...
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Q: How long is a piece of string?
A: Double the half of its length.
SumeetKapur said:
Hi Guys,
I can't put into words how much I respect and revere the information posted on your web-site and I apologise for asking the million dollar question. But I need to know.
Can we please have an ETA / timeline for the release of the HardSPL for our HTC Rhodium.
I hate my Vodafone UK branded HTC Touch Pro 2. It is red and so am I with anger. Joking aside I love HTC standard ROM's. The last one I put on my HTC Touch Pro was amazing.
Please, keep up the work....
Kind regards...
Sumeet...
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If you want to flash the HTC Shipped ROM, look out for the Goldcard methods. I'm not going into detail here because it's off topic and well documented else where. If all else fails cmonex normally helps via PM.
Ta
Dave
I can totally understand people begging for this. I nervously waiting for it to, but not to install custom ROMs. I'm waiting for it to get blackberry connect running. To achieve that I need to manipulate the device ID in the ROM itself, to fool RIM, let them think it's running on a proper device. But to flash this manipulated ROM I need HSPL (or does someone know a way to manipulate the device ID (HTC-Rhodium) in another way?).
However, asking and begging does not help or make stuff easier or getting it done faster. We all need to be brave and patient and wait a bit and let olipro and cmonex get this stuff done.
Cheers
c0rnholio said:
I can totally understand people begging for this. I nervously waiting for it to, but not to install custom ROMs. I'm waiting for it to get blackberry connect running. To achieve that I need to manipulate the device ID in the ROM itself, to fool RIM, let them think it's running on a proper device. But to flash this manipulated ROM I need HSPL (or does someone know a way to manipulate the device ID (HTC-Rhodium) in another way?).
However, asking and begging does not help or make stuff easier or getting it done faster. We all need to be brave and patient and wait a bit and let olipro and cmonex get this stuff done.
Cheers
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Sorry to go a bit OT here but I am interested in your info about Blackberry Connect. I have just come to the TP2 from a Storm and one thing that is lagging behind with the TP2 IMO is the push email, would the 'updated' ROM you are proposing allow me to use the pushmail service from BB ?
Thanks,
Neil
c0rnholio said:
I can totally understand people begging for this. I nervously waiting for it to, but not to install custom ROMs. I'm waiting for it to get blackberry connect running. To achieve that I need to manipulate the device ID in the ROM itself, to fool RIM, let them think it's running on a proper device. But to flash this manipulated ROM I need HSPL (or does someone know a way to manipulate the device ID (HTC-Rhodium) in another way?).
However, asking and begging does not help or make stuff easier or getting it done faster. We all need to be brave and patient and wait a bit and let olipro and cmonex get this stuff done.
Cheers
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Have you tried to change your AKU?
If NO you can change this:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE/System/Versions/Aku
and put this:
.1.4.3