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I'm new to the wizard world and read though tons of posts about backing up and restoring ROMs, but I couldn't quite find the answer to this question. Is it possible to take the instant messaging programs from the TMobile extended rom and install them on the Cingular 8125?
Should I assume from the lack of response that this isn't possible?
Use AgileMessenger. One IM client works with all the IM services. Pretty good!
From the T-Mo USA Ext Rom I used these 2 CAB files to get the program to work. Signed_Move_IM_Link.sa.CAB and Signed_OZPocketPC.Cab. and now i have the program working fine. Let me know if that works for you.
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From the T-Mo USA Ext Rom I used these 2 CAB files to get the program to work. Signed_Move_IM_Link.sa.CAB and Signed_OZPocketPC.Cab. and now i have the program working fine. Let me know if that works for you.
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where did you get those as i can't find them :\ thanks.
I just tried this. It works great. I assume this program works via a Proxy? If so, is it a tmobile proxy or OZ proxy?
PS. found it on ftp.xda-developers.com/uploads/
perhaps this one:
ftp://xds:[email protected]/Uploads/TMo-US-Ext_ROM.zip
i'm gonna try this as well
so i got those cabs installed on 8125 but how do you make it connect?
can make it work over edge or wifi? proxy no proxy?
its not working on either edge or wifi on my 8125 on the cingular network
if someone could figure this out this would be a huge solution to alot of 8125 users
See this post:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=41550
It appears that this program uses text messaging instead of the internet.
I just noticed that the Cingular nba file on the xda ftp is the exact size as the RUU_Prodigy_1060701_101_11310_QTEK_WWE_Ship.exe.
I have tried loading the Cingular nba file and at reboot the Qtek splash screen comes up.
with the Qtek rom.
The ROM is an OS only, so it will look exactly like imat'es and 02's and qtek's and dopod's etc... what you need is the ExtRom which is there. That has all the customizations that cingular added. Which are worthless btw, i spent hours last night trying to put the ext rom onto the cing-8125.nba and it kept freezing while trying to install the extrom. so i gave up and installed the cingular extrom on imates WWE ship rom. The cingular additions are not needed. Maybe you could use the MMS and Media net settings, but thats about it. It gives you a blue theme with the cingular logo in it (YAYYY) a push email service called Good something(i don't use push so i dont need it) and some express mail crap. Also they put all these proxies for http so you have to tweak with them to be able to use internet on wifi. Another thing, there were a couple cabs in the extrom that i removed. For example one of them was something like wifi rate 4. don't want that. another was time zone -5... to bad i'm in central -6.
also i noticed the cingular 1.6 rom is slower then the imate's 1.1 or whatever it is.
Cingualr rom
I agree.
I also stayed up most of the night loaded 1.5 and loading the cingualr extend stuff in the rom, then using awizard to load the cingular 8125 nba file. I also saw it freeze as well.
I went with the qtek 1.67 rom with radio 1.3
Just configure the device myself.
I don't think I am looking back. Happy with the peformance so far.
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The ROM is an OS only, so it will look exactly like imat'es and 02's and qtek's and dopod's etc... what you need is the ExtRom which is there. That has all the customizations that cingular added. Which are worthless btw, i spent hours last night trying to put the ext rom onto the cing-8125.nba and it kept freezing while trying to install the extrom. so i gave up and installed the cingular extrom on imates WWE ship rom. The cingular additions are not needed. Maybe you could use the MMS and Media net settings, but thats about it. It gives you a blue theme with the cingular logo in it (YAYYY) a push email service called Good something(i don't use push so i dont need it) and some express mail crap. Also they put all these proxies for http so you have to tweak with them to be able to use internet on wifi. Another thing, there were a couple cabs in the extrom that i removed. For example one of them was something like wifi rate 4. don't want that. another was time zone -5... to bad i'm in central -6.
also i noticed the cingular 1.6 rom is slower then the imate's 1.1 or whatever it is.
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help... what do i do to "tweak with them" to be able to use internet over wifi???
Howdy yall,
I've created 2 executable ROM upgraders for Cingular 8125 users.
The first is a RUU package that will restore an 8125 to it's 100% stock shipping state.
This file is on the ftp at:
ftp://xda:[email protected]/Wizard/Roms/Cingular/Cingular_RUU_1.8.11.1.WWE.ship.exe
The second file is a customized version of the latest Qtek AKU2 ROM. It requires that your device be CID unlocked to install. It includes the Qtek OS, Radio, IPL, and SPL ROM parts untouched. The extended ROM has been customized as follows:
-all Cingular customization cabs included EXCEPT "Singed_gprsstall_1228.sa.cab" which breaks wifi.
-cab created by ammar to allow enabling wireless Today screen item.
-SPCS cab to allow install of unsigned cabs
-PPCContactsMgr cab created by ammar to allow for selecting/deleting multiple contacts
-P_removeBTicon cab to remove the battery indicator in the tray
-P_DisconnectButton3s cab to allow for gprs disconnect when holding end key 3 seconds
SPLASH screen display order is set to Cingular, Cingular, Windows Mobile (same as stock)
I left the "Get Express mail" and Goodlink stuff despite wanting to blow it away.. =)
This file is on the ftp at:
ftp://xda:[email protected]/Wizard/Roms/Cingular/Cingular_RUU_WIZARD_217_AKU2_WWE.exe
Hopefully this is useful to Cingular folks who want to either go back to stock easily or go to the latest AKU2 ROM while maintaining Cingular customizations.
I take no responsibility for what happens to your device or the price of tea in China if you decide to use these RUU upgraders. I have swapped between the two versions several times today without problem.
your gonna make a lot of people happy with this easy process.
does this turn everything back to OEM spec ? including IPL etc ?
FarSeide said:
your gonna make a lot of people happy with this easy process.
does this turn everything back to OEM spec ? including IPL etc ?
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It does indeed. The IPL/SPL is returned to 1.08. I know there's probably a lot of folks who didn't want to try the new AKU ROM for fear of not being able to return to a 100% stock version....you can now do that easily.
Dude your awesome! I always put the newest rom on my device anyway, but its nice to know (in case device breaks) I can bring it back with no worries.
Absolutely awesome summiter! Just like the wayback machine that Mr. Peabody and Sherman would use in the old cartoon! Worked like a charm. (Forgot how slow that original ROM is...) Looking forward to installing your Cingular 2.17.
Thanks again dude, you're definitely gonna make a lot of people happy.
Steven
This is even better than what I was looking for originally. I wanted everything to be exactly like the 8125 on my Qtek 9100 because I'm on Cingular (I just like how the 9100 looks compared to the 8125). Now this came along as something even better - the newest Qtek 9100 ROM with the best combination of Cingular settings! I can't thank you enough!
EDIT: Hmm, everything works beautifully except one main thing: when I tried adding my GMail account to Outlook, I got to the point where it asks if it's a POP3 or IMAP4 account. I select POP3 and name it GMail, but when I click Next at the bottom, nothing happens. It's as if the button does absolutely nothing. Because of this, I can't add my email account because I can't proceed to the final step. Is anybody else having this problem?
I found it on Hofo posted by JediCorrado.
yanathin try this and let us know if it works.
Incoming Mail: pop.gmail.com:995
Outgoing Mail: smtp.gmail.com:465
under Options check "Require SSL Connection" "Outgoing mail requires authentication" "Use separate settings"
Click Outgoing Settings
Enter your username, password, check "Require SSL for outgoing mail"
The problem is that I can't even GET to the point where I enter my incoming/outgoing server... The "Next" button leading to that screen won't do anything. I had GMail working before the new ROM update just fine. (sorry for the slightly off-topic posts)
Sorry yanathin, was just trying to help.
I keep looking and post if I find anything.
biggie ups to you, summiter
so i'm a pansy, and i dinna have the brass ones required to futz with my stock cingular 8125... until this came along. just finished popping on the official qtek rom, and things appear to be running swimmingly. will mess around more later because i want a2dp so i can stop carrying my logitech dongle around, but thas neither here nor there.
excellent, EXCELLENT post. thanks much, chief.
EDIT: i got mine all set up, and i have to reflash, but i don't even care, because you're awesome in the first place for getting this up, and awesome again for fixing it on-the-spot-like. biggie ups again. downloading again now =)
awesome, im gonna give this a shot soon
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The problem is that I can't even GET to the point where I enter my incoming/outgoing server... The "Next" button leading to that screen won't do anything. I had GMail working before the new ROM update just fine. (sorry for the slightly off-topic posts)
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I think I know what the problem is - gimme a few minutes to check things out and I'll upload a fixed installer.
Thanks soo much for the new rom package
I just finished loading my apps back on the cingular 8125, and it all works great, and much faster than the stock cingular rom. Exellent Work!
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I think I know what the problem is - gimme a few minutes to check things out and I'll upload a fixed installer.
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That would be wonderful if you could fix it... Aside from the ugly pasted Cingular logo on the Phone screen and Incoming Call pop-up box (I love it when Cingular just "pastes" their logo on things, no matter how it looks :x), this ROM is darn near perfect!
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summiter said:
I think I know what the problem is - gimme a few minutes to check things out and I'll upload a fixed installer.
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That would be wonderful if you could fix it... Aside from the ugly pasted Cingular logo on the Phone screen and Incoming Call pop-up box (I love it when Cingular just "pastes" their logo on things, no matter how it looks :x), this ROM is darn near perfect!
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Is this a definate confirmed bug with the current installer? If it is I figure I should wait because I use my mail on the road everyday. If anyone has more info - please let us know. Thanks for creating this ROM and for looking at it again---as someone who has been afraid of updating but really anxious, this is really exciting.
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yanathin said:
summiter said:
I think I know what the problem is - gimme a few minutes to check things out and I'll upload a fixed installer.
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That would be wonderful if you could fix it... Aside from the ugly pasted Cingular logo on the Phone screen and Incoming Call pop-up box (I love it when Cingular just "pastes" their logo on things, no matter how it looks :x), this ROM is darn near perfect!
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Is this a definate confirmed bug with the current installer? If it is I figure I should wait because I use my mail on the road everyday. If anyone has more info - please let us know. Thanks for creating this ROM and for looking at it again---as someone who has been afraid of updating but really anxious, this is really exciting.
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It was one of the Cingular cab files. Apparently there was some issue with MMS and Cingular had a cab file that applied some sort of hotfix. Well this hotfix isn't needed with the AKU2 ROM and all it did was break mail. I've removed that portion of the offending cab file, repacked, and I'll upload the fixed installer afer I finish one more round of double checking. I've deleted the old one off the ftp, so when you see the 2.17 installer back up it will be the fixed version.
summiter said:
JMD0116 said:
yanathin said:
summiter said:
I think I know what the problem is - gimme a few minutes to check things out and I'll upload a fixed installer.
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That would be wonderful if you could fix it... Aside from the ugly pasted Cingular logo on the Phone screen and Incoming Call pop-up box (I love it when Cingular just "pastes" their logo on things, no matter how it looks :x), this ROM is darn near perfect!
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Is this a definate confirmed bug with the current installer? If it is I figure I should wait because I use my mail on the road everyday. If anyone has more info - please let us know. Thanks for creating this ROM and for looking at it again---as someone who has been afraid of updating but really anxious, this is really exciting.
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It was one of the Cingular cab files. Apparently there was some issue with MMS and Cingular had a cab file that applied some sort of hotfix. Well this hotfix isn't needed with the AKU2 ROM and all it did was break mail. I've removed that portion of the offending cab file, repacked, and I'll upload the fixed installer afer I finish one more round of double checking. I've deleted the old one off the ftp, so when you see the 2.17 installer back up it will be the fixed version.
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Oh you rock! Thanks
The fixed installer has been uploaded. Use the original link in the first message of this thread to grab it.
My appologies to those folks who got their devices all set up and have to reflash.. :?
that worked out great! my 8125 was acting all retarded and not picking up any signal at all for about 8 hours and after i installed the upgrade package, it worked like a charm. anybody else have any problems with the 8125 dropping connectivity completely?
dormido said:
that worked out great! my 8125 was acting all retarded and not picking up any signal at all for about 8 hours and after i installed the upgrade package, it worked like a charm. anybody else have any problems with the 8125 dropping connectivity completely?
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Were you using the original stock ROM when you had these issues?
I have 4 Wizards, and 3 of them had problems locking up and losing signal with the original Cingular ROM. Cingular blames the problem on bad SIMs. After flashing to AKU 2 I've had no problems with any of the devices, so the update is either handling flaky SIMs better or Cingular was taking the easy way out of the problem. haha
I'm referring to this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=45295
(Cingular 8125 users: 2 custom RUU upgraders available on ftp)
What's the benefit of using that over the stock cingular rom? It still has goodlink and expressmail installed so it's not really saving any space. Does it just offer a better OS with less errors and more speed?
Also, referring to this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=47052
(Cingular 8125 users: 217 ROM w/ fonts, themes, oclock on ftp)
I can see some improvements. Themes, ringtones, and omapclock have been installed while goodlink and expressmail have been removed. I don't need the themes, ringtones, or omapclock.exe... but since this version doesn't have goodlink or expressmail this would be better for me then the first ROM I listed correct?
I can't test myself yet because my 8125 doesn't get here for another 12 hours or so. But I'm trying to prepare so when I get it I know exactly what to install to get it up and running ASAP. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
In the first case, there were two ROMs listed for download - one is the stock Cingular 1.8 ROM and one was upgraded to the MSFP/AKU2 ROM with the Cingular customizations. When this was first posted, neither HTC America, nor Cingular, made the original ROM version available for download - so if you upgraded to one of the other ROM's, it was virtually impossible to go back to the stock Cingular ROM.
In the other case, a lot of the ringers and themes are now stored in ROM, in lieu of taking up memory. It is a personal preference.
I upgraded to the AKU2 update ROM from the first thread so I could get Push Mail. Plus it is significantly faster than the original Cingular ROM.
Is there a post about all the versions of ROM?
Excuse my lack of knowledge, but I'm just a baby beginner when it comes to Wizards... just switched from HP 6515. I don't even know what AKU2 means, nor which update would be best for my needs.
I'd like to learn about it. But don't want people to write what has already been written, so could you provide me some links to the "history" of ROMs?
Thanks...
MargaL said:
Is there a post about all the versions of ROM?
Excuse my lack of knowledge, but I'm just a baby beginner when it comes to Wizards... just switched from HP 6515. I don't even know what AKU2 means, nor which update would be best for my needs.
I'd like to learn about it. But don't want people to write what has already been written, so could you provide me some links to the "history" of ROMs?
Thanks...
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Browse this forum and you'll learn plenty. AKU2 is essentially like a service pack. It inludes OS fixes, and in the case of AKU2, it adds support for Microsoft's Direct Push, which requires an Exchange (service pack 2) account to function.
There's really only three major ROM types for the Wizard: the shipping version which came on your device, modified 2.0X ROMs which include Direct Push and support for bluetooth stereo, and 2.X ROMs which include Direct Push but NOT bluetooth stereo. The various 2.X ROMs you see are just various AKU2 releases from different vendors like QTek or Imate, as well as custom variations of those ROMs.
You're most likely to run across custom ROMs US carriers T-Mobile and Cingular, because they have yet to release official AKU2 ROMs.
What are your needs and who's your carrier?
Thank you for your explanation. This is actually where my journey to the world of Wizards begin
My provider is Cingular...
My needs? Hmm... tough one ;-)
Up till now I've been using HP 6515. Mostly for listening to music (not via BT) and ocasionally playing Microsoft's Cubicle Chaos. (Sometimes both at the same time)
I use some Today Screen plugins...
I'm a pretty heavy phone user (1-2 hours talk time per day) and messaging person (about 800 per month). I don't use GPRS, since Cingular's prices on it simply SUCK!
And I'm always looking for some new uses for my phone...
MargaL said:
My provider is Cingular...
My needs? Hmm... tough one ;-)
Up till now I've been using HP 6515. Mostly for listening to music (not via BT) and ocasionally playing Microsoft's Cubicle Chaos. (Sometimes both at the same time)
I use some Today Screen plugins...
I'm a pretty heavy phone user (1-2 hours talk time per day) and messaging person (about 800 per month). I don't use GPRS, since Cingular's prices on it simply SUCK!
And I'm always looking for some new uses for my phone...
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OK then, I think the custom 2.17 Cingular ROM is appropriate for you. It has push mail, but since you won't be using that, you'll at least gain the benefits of improved stability and performance.
Check out the thread I started about 2 custom ROMs for CIngular users being available on the ftp. There's a link directly to the 2.17 installer.
Be aware that you will lose anything you've installed, so you'll have to reinstall everything to your liking as you did when the device was new.
Thanks a lot, Summiter.
You've given me a lot of explanation and I'm grateful to you.
I'll sure check out that thread.
Cheers.
Hi there summiter.
I want to download/install the ROM you are mentioning, but the FTP link in your post is broken...may you offer some help as to where I can find it?
I have a Cingular 8125 that I'd like to update with the 2.17 ROM you mention.
Nevermind, I found a working link in another post.
Going to try the 2.17 with AKU2, Ringers, and oclock. I'll see how it goes!
How to -exactly
I too am new in the HTC world having come from years of Blackberrries. The info on the ROM upgrades is clear and it seems an upgrade to the 2.17 would be good for me, but I need to know *how* to flash and upgrade and haven't found any step-by-step's in this forum for those basic items. I have no problem finding the files, downlaoding the files from the FTP sites, etc- I just need to know what the difference between "flash" and "update" are - and how to execute those two tasks.
Thanks,
-Marc
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mokla40 said:
I too am new in the HTC world having come from years of Blackberrries. The info on the ROM upgrades is clear and it seems an upgrade to the 2.17 would be good for me, but I need to know *how* to flash and upgrade and haven't found any step-by-step's in this forum for those basic items. I have no problem finding the files, downlaoding the files from the FTP sites, etc- I just need to know what the difference between "flash" and "update" are - and how to execute those two tasks.
Thanks,
-Marc
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Flash and update are used interchangeably. When you update, you are flashing a new ROM onto your device.
As far as step-by-step goes, I've posted several, but..
establish an activesync connection
CID unlock with aWizard
device reset
establish an activesync connection
run the ROM isntaller of choice
mpaolo said:
Hi there summiter.
I want to download/install the ROM you are mentioning, but the FTP link in your post is broken...may you offer some help as to where I can find it?
I have a Cingular 8125 that I'd like to update with the 2.17 ROM you mention.
Nevermind, I found a working link in another post.
Going to try the 2.17 with AKU2, Ringers, and oclock. I'll see how it goes!
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Sorry about that..I fixed the links
Does anyone have any screen shots of what the upgraded cingular rom looks like?
Does it have the looks and feel of the original rom?
Thanks
redrover said:
Does anyone have any screen shots of what the upgraded cingular rom looks like?
Does it have the looks and feel of the original rom?
Thanks
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Unless you decide to use one of the added themes, then yep it looks exactly the same. As far as feel, well that's relative, but most folks report it feels a bit snappier. It retains the Cingular splash screen at startup.
With the lack of an an actual AT&T 6.1 ROM for the tilt does anyone know a way I might be able to hack PTT functionality back into my device? It makes my work a lot easier and I'd hate to have to give up all of the benefits of 6.1 and cooked ROMs for this one function. Thanks.
bro.. I've asked this questions so many times and it seems like everyone is stumped because no one has an answer or a solution. I have a copy of the registry of the stock at&t tilt. My guess is that you have to add the missing registry keys in your ROM. I don't see how that would give you the Icon for PTT but maybe theres a cab somewhere.. Are you on AT&T network? if you are are you able to get to MEdia Net Homepage?
The problem goes deeper than registry settings.
at&t uses some different dlls to hook into the Radio.
On top of that at&t now has tied a particular Radio Rom to their OS Rom which further complicated the issue.
PTT for WM6.1 won't arrive unless at&t releases a WM6.1 Rom (or one gets leaked).
PTT in a cooked WM6.0 Rom is possible if you cook an at&t Rom.
You can take WM6.1 ROM & SYS folders and AT&T 1.62 OEM folder and build a hybrid ROM from it that works with a 1.27.14.09 radio.
I've done it before and tested incoming and outgoing calls as well as audio, didn't test if threaded SMS was working...
I have no interest in PTT, but if you want to cook your own ROM and make PTT work on WM6.1 before AT&T releases a WM6.1, I'm telling you that it's possible.
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You can take WM6.1 ROM & SYS folders and AT&T 1.62 OEM folder and build a hybrid ROM from it that works with a 1.27.14.09 radio.
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Talk about a scary "Franken-Rom"! It definately needs to happen at the cooking stage though. A few of us have tried to come up with a way to add it in to a cooked Rom with an at&t base and it just never quite worked.
thanks for the quick replies, guys. I will definitely have to do a bit more learning before I can attempt the frankenROM idea, but that definitely sounds like something I will look in to.
add back ptt button
look for "XCSdM Fuze PTT Mod" - Remaps short/long PTT and LKP using Buttons menu in settings