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Hope you guys can help me out. I disassembled my Cingular 8125 to try and improve the earpiece speaker. I put the device back together and turned it on and it sticks on the boot screen.
When I try to do a hard reset, I get to the point where I have to press send (green button), but then displays the following for a second and then goes back and freezes on the boot loader screen:
format FAT partition
format is complete
I've read some stuff about being able to recover from this using the SD card, but I'm not sure how to do it. If it is possible to recover from SD card, can someone please upload the appropriate files to the ftp site?
Please HELP!!! My ROM versions are below:
IPL: 2.16
SPL: 2.16
GSM: 02.07.10
OS: 2.16.9.1
Thanks!!!
Update:
I'm able to get to the mutli-colored screen by holding the Camera Button prior to starting the Wizard back on. I plug in my USB to my computer, but my computer says "USB Device Not Recognized". How can I get a new ROM on to my device? I tried running the ROMUpdateUtility.exe from a ROM, but it obviously wouldn't work because my computer doesn't see my phone. Please help!!
Thanks!!
Update #2:
When connected to the computer, I got to device manager and see an unknown device under USB. I uninstall the device and do a scan for hardware changes. This finds the phone, but it still shows up as an unknown device. It does say that device is ready to use, but when i try to run the ROM update utility, it still cannot find my phone.
Do I need special USB drivers for the phone to be recognized?
Please guys, any help would be greatly appreciated!
Thanks!!!
you shouldnt need any special driver for your computer to connect to Wizard.
did you install ActiveSync at all ? perhaps its using the driver from that installation....
What OS are you using ?
Yes, I've previously installed ActiveSync 4.1. I am using Windows XP. Would it help to try to uninstall/reinstall ActiveSync? I may give that a try. Will keep you posted. Any other suggestions?
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Just tried to uninstall/reinstall ActiveSync and it still says USB device not recognized
it looks like a dead ROM, hope it has nothing to do with the hardware.
Anyway, you try looking through this forum, there are some people who've got stuck on the boot screen, and did a flash (via the bootloader screen, e.g. the multi colour one) on the ROM and seems to fix the problem. Probably you want to put this option last. Mean while, wait for others to repsond, and you may well start looking on how to flash the ROM from bootloader screen.
hanmin said:
it looks like a dead ROM, hope it has nothing to do with the hardware.
Anyway, you try looking through this forum, there are some people who've got stuck on the boot screen, and did a flash (via the bootloader screen, e.g. the multi colour one) on the ROM and seems to fix the problem. Probably you want to put this option last. Mean while, wait for others to repsond, and you may well start looking on how to flash the ROM from bootloader screen.
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Thanks for responding. I'm ok with having to reflash, but the problem is that my computer doesn't seem to recognize my device when i'm at the multi color screen.
Isn't there a backup battery in these devices? I had my Wizard disassembled for 4 hours. I guess the backup battery could have died during this span, but even if it did, what implications would that have?
You still have hope
Get it to the bootloader screen. Connect via USB to your PC (make sure you have active sycn installed) and run an RUU to replace your ROM. I had to do this after trying to downgrade to the original Cingular ROM on my 8125. Scared the S*!T out of me when it hung on the Splash screen and wouldn't load. I thought it was toast but using the Bootloader and an RUU it put it back to normal again.
It won't look like the PC is recognizing the device but it will as long as its in Bootloader.
Let us know if you get it fixed.
Re: You still have hope
hellomoto_25 said:
Get it to the bootloader screen. Connect via USB to your PC (make sure you have active sycn installed) and run an RUU to replace your ROM. I had to do this after trying to downgrade to the original Cingular ROM on my 8125. Scared the S*!T out of me when it hung on the Splash screen and wouldn't load. I thought it was toast but using the Bootloader and an RUU it put it back to normal again.
It won't look like the PC is recognizing the device but it will as long as its in Bootloader.
Let us know if you get it fixed.
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Thanks for the reply. The problem is that when I plug the device into my computer, I get a USB device not recognized error. I try to proceed with ROMUpdateUtility.exe anyways, and get this error:
"The update utility cannot connect to your PDA phone..."
Seems like updating via USB is not going to work for me. Can I write a backup to the SD card from the PC, put the SD card in the phone, and then boot from there? I've read some posts along these lines, but detailed steps would be very helpful. THANKS!!!
You need an SD card dump image.
This is NOT a file in the sense of a file on the SD card. Its a RAW image. You need someone who has dumped their firmware in that fashion to send you the SD image.
You then write it onto the SD card using something like "psdwrite" (which will, by the way, DESTROY the filesystem on the SD card - don't have anything on there you care about!) and then insert it into the phone with the power off. Hold the CAMERA button and turn it on; when it asks if you want to restore the image, hit VOICE.
Note that for 1.x IPLs/SPLs the backlight will be OFF during this procedure, so you have to pay attention and/or have a good flashlight handy.
Genesis3 said:
You need an SD card dump image.
This is NOT a file in the sense of a file on the SD card. Its a RAW image. You need someone who has dumped their firmware in that fashion to send you the SD image.
You then write it onto the SD card using something like "psdwrite" (which will, by the way, DESTROY the filesystem on the SD card - don't have anything on there you care about!) and then insert it into the phone with the power off. Hold the CAMERA button and turn it on; when it asks if you want to restore the image, hit VOICE.
Note that for 1.x IPLs/SPLs the backlight will be OFF during this procedure, so you have to pay attention and/or have a good flashlight handy.
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Genesis3,
Thanks for your wonderful insight. I really appreciate your help.
Now can someone help me with getting an SD image? What constitutes an image file? Is it simply the .nbf file? Do I just use psdwrite and copy the nbf file onto the card? Is there something on the FTP site I can use? My configuration as mentioned in the original post is:
IPL: 2.16
SPL: 2.16
GSM: 02.07.10
OS: 2.16.9.1
I had a similar problem and reflashing the rom using the usb is possible. Don't use a flasing utility, though.
Find a self contained rom upgrade from the FTP. As long as you see USB on the bottom left side of your screen, it should work. After that, reflash with whatever rom you want. Hope it works. Nothing worse than an the feeling you have holding an expensive paper waight.
wireless_one said:
I had a similar problem and reflashing the rom using the usb is possible. Don't use a flasing utility, though.
Find a self contained rom upgrade from the FTP. As long as you see USB on the bottom left side of your screen, it should work. After that, reflash with whatever rom you want. Hope it works. Nothing worse than an the feeling you have holding an expensive paper waight.
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Thanks for the reply. I'm not sure what you mean by "self contained rom". In the past, I've used K-JAM_WWE_216901_2169101_020710_ship.zip from the FTP site, and ran the ROMUpdateUtility.exe without any problem. Now, since I cannot make a connection to the computer via USB, I am unable to run ROMUpdateUtility.exe. Is there an alternative "self contained" file I can use that will work in spite of the unknown USB device message?
Thanks in advance...
try to DL this file: RUU_Prodigy_1060701_101_11310_QTEK_WWE_Ship.exe. Its on the FTP. Follow this link:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=BA_FTP_Site
click on the FTP Root link, navigate here:
ftp://ftp.xda-developers.com/Wizard/Roms/Qtek/ and download the file. Put the phone in bootloader, attach to PC (make sure the phone has USB shown in the bottom left corner, and run the file.
Ignore any references to ActiveSync or any connections period. Just run it all the way through the installation process. When all is done, you can upgrade, down grade, etc using the appropriate method (I use aWizard) Let me know if this helps.
Wireless One
wireless_one said:
try to DL this file: RUU_Prodigy_1060701_101_11310_QTEK_WWE_Ship.exe. Its on the FTP. Follow this link:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=BA_FTP_Site
click on the FTP Root link, navigate here:
ftp://ftp.xda-developers.com/Wizard/Roms/Qtek/ and download the file. Put the phone in bootloader, attach to PC (make sure the phone has USB shown in the bottom left corner, and run the file.
Ignore any references to ActiveSync or any connections period. Just run it all the way through the installation process. When all is done, you can upgrade, down grade, etc using the appropriate method (I use aWizard) Let me know if this helps.
Wireless One
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Thanks for your reply. I've tried the course of action that you've suggested, but i cannot get through the installation process because of inadequate connectivity between the phone and my PC. I see the USB in the bottom left hand corner, plug into the PC, and immediately see a USB Unknown device error. I ignore that and try to run the ROM anyways and it fails and I get an Update Error:
"The Update Utility cannot connect to your PDA Phone. Please check that your USB/cradle is connected..."
That's why I think I got to go the SD card route, so anyone with an image file that i can put on my SD card, I really could use the help!
It is NOT a NBF file.
The problem with the 8125 is that if you are somehow not CID unlocked the wrong SD image will actually hurt you more than it helps.
You need to find someone with a Cingular 8125 SD image - I have one for the T-Mobile MDA but not for the Cingular "as-shipped" ROM.
Genesis3 said:
It is NOT a NBF file.
The problem with the 8125 is that if you are somehow not CID unlocked the wrong SD image will actually hurt you more than it helps.
You need to find someone with a Cingular 8125 SD image - I have one for the T-Mobile MDA but not for the Cingular "as-shipped" ROM.
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Genesis3,
Thanks for confirming it's not a NBF file. I had previously CID unlocked using awizard and then installed a newer IMATE ROM:
IPL: 2.16
SPL: 2.16
GSM: 02.07.10
OS: 2.16.9.1
I did not install the IMATE Extended ROM or Cingular customizations after upgrading to the IMATE ROM. Do I still need a Cingular 8125 SD image, since i've already upgraded my ROM, or do I now need an IMATE SD image to match my current configuration? Or does the type of image file really not matter?
Thanks in advance!
I really hate to beg, but I am desparately seeking an SD image file backup. I'm going out of town in a couple of days, and would love to have a working wizard for my trip.
Can any one of you kind souls please upload your SD image file backup to the FTP site? It really is my last ditch effort before having to send the phone back.
I truly appreciate all the help and all the responses I have received to date.
THANKS!!!
sunil23 said:
I really hate to beg, but I am desparately seeking an SD image file backup. I'm going out of town in a couple of days, and would love to have a working wizard for my trip.
Can any one of you kind souls please upload your SD image file backup to the FTP site? It really is my last ditch effort before having to send the phone back.
I truly appreciate all the help and all the responses I have received to date.
THANKS!!!
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Sunil,
i apologize for not responding your PM sooner but wasnt available due to travel plans.
I am trying to upload the files to the Upload folder now and i iwll let you know when i am done.
Thanks
getting permission denied when i tried to upload the documents.
is there another password i should be using besides xda/xda ?
Hi,
Can I install a new ROM via my SD card because I cannot connect to Active Sync? I've been searching for hours but still can't fix my problem.
I tried to upgrade the radio rom only, but after that there is no radio version, no phone or internet, system on MDA is VERY slow, and I can't connect to active sync.
I can get bootloader up, but I cannot install the stock rom I downloaded from this site, because i can't connect with active sync. I've tried to copy it to an SD card and install from there, but that doesn't work either. In bootloader I do not have USB at bottom left on my screen.
only
IPL 1.03
SPL 1.03
Any help would be MUCH appreciated.
Thanks in advance!!!!!
I have the same problem :-(
It would be very nice if there´s a solution for this problem
Thanks a lot
Daniel
You don't need activesynce
You just need to get into bootloader search for it then run the RUU.
kyphur said:
You don't need activesynce
You just need to get into bootloader search for it then run the RUU.
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If USB is not showing up in the bootloader (rainbow screen) then the only known way to backup is via SD card. The RUU cannot be used in this case.
You'll want to dig out the original backup that you made when you first got the phone and do a restore boot. Restore the image from the SD card.
If you want the improved radio ROM, I'd suggest restoring from SD card, CID unlocking the device, upgrading to an AKU 2.x ROM (so you've got a 2.x bootloader) and then applying the 2.x radio ROM upgrade.
sd card
Check this
http://en.pdamobiz.com/en/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=151
I installed a back up rom on my SD card with another phone of a friend of myne
same problem; wizard_radio version-2.25.11
will follow link in above post and see hoe it goes; anyone got any other comments?
no SD backup
well, funnily enough I ran the ROM backup as a precaution, but it seems a. not to have worked and b. to have wiped my SD card, so am buggered whichever way you look at it.
Does anyone have a backup image they could email/FTP to me so I can at least get to USB in bootloader?
THanks,
Jolyon
the CURE
ok, thanks to the tip from a99tandem.
Reset, holding down the camera button, allows you to go into boatloader, and you can flash a ROM from the PC using RUU. Bootloader comes up with 'USB' in the corner.
Thank god for that; that's 5 hours wasted...
Iv'e tryed to flash HardSPL to Kaiser... Downloaded various unlockers/flashers, even SD card solution... When trying to flash over usb with some Kaiser-HardSPL.exe - after entering tricolor mode and when progressbar appears it always stuck on 0%, and nothing happens... Update utility shows error (Rom update utility encountered communication error or smth.) and sugests me to do recovery. Tryed everything - SoftSpl1.56, Softspl1.93, SSpl-kais...
Other method i've tryed - SD card
Iv'e followed instructions, formatted card, copied those two files (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=420683) to sd card, but after resetting Kaiser it only shows "Loading..." and hangs... no restart, nothing... just "loading..." on screen...
Bootloader menu shows following versions:
KAIS130
SPL-3.29.0000
CPLD-8
somehow... after trying another 1000 -th time... it just flashed...
Have exactly the same problem, tried all other solutions! any idea on what the last method was that worked?
When flashing via USB it will hang at 0% (and fail w/ 260 error on PC side) if the SD card is left in. I've made that mistake more than once.
Remember to remove SIM, too.
I don't have sd card and I've got the same problem...
Any ideas?
I have the same problem. I want to upgrade Hard SPL 3.24 to newer version. I always get 262 error. Also tried all possible ways (MicroSD uses FAT32, but I didn't formatted It, because I don't have SD adapter).
Sometimes It's shown that flashing complete, but HardSPL version still is the same.
Read you noobs
FOLLOW THE DIRECTIONS
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=396922
latinohot, I'm doing all right...
EDIT:
I changed cable, and it went for the first time
Biker182 said:
latinohot, I'm doing all right...
EDIT:
I changed cable, and it went for the first time
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good, also check the contact pins, sometimes they get bent.
hmmm...
i STILL can't get hardspl to work at all...just get stuck at 0%
sabzi43 said:
i STILL can't get hardspl to work at all...just get stuck at 0%
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Are you using sspl to upgrade? sim and sd out? usb cable or sd flash? Do you already have a hspl and are just upgrading?
If you're on an original spl you must use sspl to do it.
If you're upgrading then you can use the kaisdiag file by cmonex and an sd.
aaaaahhhhh
WarByte said:
Are you using sspl to upgrade? sim and sd out? usb cable or sd flash? Do you already have a hspl and are just upgrading?
If you're on an original spl you must use sspl to do it.
If you're upgrading then you can use the kaisdiag file by cmonex and an sd.
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I'm using usb to windows 7, sim and sd were out.
The thing is i've never done this before, but i am pretty sure i have it down...
I tried this I think 3 times then started to panic when after the recover from the freeze, i noticed things being weird, so i hard reset so i still have a functioning phone until i figure this out.
(it still has bugs it never had before :/)
ive downloaded numorous hardspls, all didnt work.
it's been one saaaaaaaaaaaad experience cuz i really want to make this happen and brag to my guy friends I FLASHED MY PHONE.
and get win 6.5, of course.
any help much appreciated!!!!!!!
sabzi43 said:
I'm using usb to windows 7, sim and sd were out.
The thing is i've never done this before, but i am pretty sure i have it down...
I tried this I think 3 times then started to panic when after the recover from the freeze, i noticed things being weird, so i hard reset so i still have a functioning phone until i figure this out.
(it still has bugs it never had before :/)
ive downloaded numorous hardspls, all didnt work.
it's been one saaaaaaaaaaaad experience cuz i really want to make this happen and brag to my guy friends I FLASHED MY PHONE.
and get win 6.5, of course.
any help much appreciated!!!!!!!
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copy sspl.exe into your device and run it then you can flash with CustomRUU
to much better you are using ActiveSync on Windows XP
Thanks so much!!! i got it to work!!!! i actually used a jump spl instead, but i now am running win 6.5 on my kaiser!!!!!!! and i'm beyond stoked
THANKS Y'ALL!
My wizard (Cingular 8125) becomes unstable recently so I decide to reflash. Due to my stupidity, my laptop went to sleep mode while flashing. I thought I bricked my phone but it seems semi-bricked. After looking around, I try to fix using bootloader mode (holding the camera button while turn on) and I can get to the bootloader mode but my Window refuse to connect.
I'm running Vista and it doesn't connect. Try killing Mobile Device Center thread and changed the PPC driver and still not connect. Try the "vista flash guide" sticky above but doesn't work....
So, is it possible to do this via miniSD? I don't have any backup. My previous ROM was original Faria WM6 rom (old one, not his recent one)......
Help needed.....
Well,I wud like to advise you to first try to reflash with pc running winXP,as it's highly recommended,as win Vista still has many issues.
Secondly,to flash through MiniSd,your phone must be CID unlocked and a working Rom is already backed up on a MiniSd card.
I already have the phone CID-unlocked before my previous flash. I have been using Faria ROM for about a year but it's just start having problem recently.
I do not have access to XP machine that I can mess with now. It would be great if I could have some vanilla ROM updated via SD while I'm waiting....
i would like to know how to flash via SD also my usb port is broken and haven't been able to update my rom for months now
Keland44 said:
i would like to know how to flash via SD also my usb port is broken and haven't been able to update my rom for months now
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If the phone is CID unlocked and you already have a backup of the rom on a Minisd card,Yes! its possible using the MTTY 'rs2d.all' command.Read here how to do it:-
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=276963
Ok I am having the same issues. I tried to install HDWall cab on the latest march 9th energyrom with WM6.5.5 and Sense 2.5. It prompted me to restart so I did and ever since I tried rebooting it, its stuck on the bootloader. tried to hard reset a bunch of times and just goes back to bootloader. Took battery out a bunch of times. Tried to flash back to AT&T stock ROM via USB. Flash went to 100% and then when it tries to restart after flash, back to bootloader. Ran mtty1_1_.42_538 on PC and then tried to reflash to energyrom and still stuck on bootloader. The weird thing is when I try to flash via USB it the current Rom image is blank. Oh and also I attached an image of what mtty1_1_.42_538 shows when running the application. Please help chefs!!! You chefs are the brains!
bratch15 said:
Tried to flash back to AT&T stock ROM via USB.
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I am not a chef but at this point I would do an SD flash of my favorite ROM.
Hope that helps.
I would if I could flash from a 16gb micro SD. That is the only card I have. I have read you can't flash with any card over 2GB. Don't know if its true because I don't have any other card. Card is formatted through my pc. Please help!
Something got messed up between installing HDWallpaper cab and the soft reset after.
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I would if I could flash from a 16gb micro SD. That is the only card I have. I have read you can't flash with any card over 2GB. Don't know if its true because I don't have any other card. Card is formatted through my pc. Please help!
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it doesnt hurt to try
i'm using an 8GB card and I can flash from SD with no prob
I can't flash from the microSD. I formatted FAT32 through the PC and tried putting a couple different NBH files (stock Roms and custom Roms) and neither my old fuze or my Tilt 2 read it. I don't know if it is because it is a MicroSDHC 2 card. Anybody???
For some reason my fuze and Tilt 2 will not read the card in bootloader. I'm thinking I might have a hardware issue but would like to keep plugging away at possible solutions it might be... The phone is only 2 months old so I'm questioning whether it is a software or hardware issue
In case anybody was wondering, my bootloader reads as follows:
RHOD300 32M SS-BC
SPL-0.85.OliNex
MicroP(LED) 0x0A
MicroP(KEY) 0x04
TURBO HW/TURBO SW
TP MFG DATA
522, 535 815, 860
812, 211 226, 210
232, 860 Calibrated
At the bottom of the screen it will show the USB when plugged into the PC and Serial when unplugged like it should
Possible fix
Format your card again but in 16bit.
Copy the ROM image you wish to burn to the root of the card.
Make sure it is named RHODIMG.nbh and nothing else.
Before trying to burn this rom, I would actually burn HardSPL again to your phone.
Then insert card and see if it will reburn your rom.
I am using a 16GB card in my TP2 without problems, but found I actually had less problems by formatting it to 16bit. And any access to the card was actually faster than formatting it in 32bit.
Hope this helps
I will try that tonight when I get home. Any other ideas until then?
bratch15 said:
I would if I could flash from a 16gb micro SD. That is the only card I have. I have read you can't flash with any card over 2GB. Don't know if its true because I don't have any other card. Card is formatted through my pc. Please help!
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I think it's not a matter of capacity so much as a matter of brand. If your 16GB is from eBay you might well have a defect/reject card. I have a 4GB A-Data from Newegg that I only use for flashing. Never saw any problem with it.
bratch15 said:
For some reason my fuze and Tilt 2 will not read the card in bootloader. I'm thinking I might have a hardware issue but would like to keep plugging away at possible solutions it might be... The phone is only 2 months old so I'm questioning whether it is a software or hardware issue
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It seems the read can not be read in two devices. That sounds like a defective card. Get your self a 2GB (non HC) card from a reliable source (maybe BestBuy) and keep it just for flashing.
I had this same problem I solved it check this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=638825
Tried everything on the thread and still no go. Called HTC and sending it in to get fixed.