Thanks to Kevlar-Source there is now a disassembly procedure at
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=DIS_BA
Whoever wants change the LCD on BA has can buy the spare part at :
http://www.pdasmart.com/pdaphonexda2s.htm
or send the Ba for a Full Service Repairs to :
http://www.pocketpctechs.com/main~unit~Qtek_9090-257~area~repairs~item~XDA-TS03.htm
http://www.apexlaptops.co.uk/xda.htm
Unforunately I choosed the first way and now I am stuck on the fact that after installing the new Lcd screen from PDASMART the screen is completely blank , even if the Qtek seems to work , lights sounds etc
There are differences between the two LCD , connector and label , I am attaching a picture hoping someone will help in finding the cause of the problem ...
I wrote a couple of mail to PDASMART but I did not receive any answer to date
Ciao !!
Anyone know where I can buy steal/etc. one of those screws on the side of the BA?
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There are differences between the two LCD , connector and label , I am attaching a picture hoping someone will help in finding the cause of the problem ...
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Hi,
what is your BA board id ?
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=BlueangelBoardIDs
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=BlueangelLCD
60H00018-00 and
60H00033-00 are obviously different.
what is your BA board id ?
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I dont know , I dont have Linux , and beside that the screen is absolutely blank ! Anyway, is an Italian QTEK 9090 from DAANGARD , if there is an alternative way to know Board Id , please let me know !javascript:emoticon('')
Very Happy
As you say is obvious the two LCD have different Sn , but as I am not an HW tech maybe someone on the Forum knows if they are compatible
The fact is that the LCD matter is quite misterious , is a piece of HW that easily breaks , and according to my knoweledge there is only one supplier shipping the part , PDASMART
What I did is buy the part from PDASMART , install it , test that it does not work , at least on my Qtek , write back to PDASMART a couple of Mail and I am still waiting for a replay !! javascript:emoticon(':evil:')
Evil or Very Mad
To be honest I have the doubt that reassenbling the LCD I could have made something incorrect , but the reassembly procedure is well described on WIKI ...
Would not be bad if we can find a reliable source of spare LCD on the web and collect some info for WIKI .
Gbrand said:
if there is an alternative way to know Board Id , please let me know
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Run haret.exe and post the 'dump gpio bagpio' output (the bagpio file).
http://sdgsystems.com/pub/ipaq/hx4700/starterkit/20050611/
What i really hate is that the damn fsckers who
sell the LCDs have really no idea what they are selling!!!
Gbrand said:
There are differences between the two LCD , connector and label , I am attaching a picture hoping someone will help in finding the cause of the problem ...
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Left one is a Toppoly LCD (see http://www.toppoly.com/toppoly/Product/TD035STEC1.asp ) used in boardid 0x6 BAs, right one is a Sony one (ACX502BMV) used in boardid 0x5
Don't know how to change the board id, maybe some solder pads.
Left one is a Toppoly LCD (see http://www.toppoly.com/toppoly/Product/TD035STEC1.asp ) used in boardid 0x6 BAs, right one is a Sony one (ACX502BMV) used in boardid 0x5.
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So , my board id is 0x6 and PDASMART sent me a 0x5 Boardid LCD ,
Don't know how to change the board id, maybe some solder pads
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Anywone around knows how to solve the problem ?
PDASMART is quite latitant ! javascript:emoticon('')
Sad
Added picture of the toppoly and sony LCD on
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=BlueangelLCD
Hope is the right place .
But still stuck on blank LCD .
Is board id something can be changed ?
How can I get out of this damned story ?
Gbrand said:
Is board id something can be changed ?
How can I get out of this damned story ?
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It is interesting to force the id=5 setting in Linux
and check if the device will be working properly.
Then you can simply patch the wince-relevant binaries.
BTW, can you add your model to the boardIDs wiki page ?
BTW, can you add your model to the boardIDs wiki page ?
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done !
I can work on Qtek only through PC and SOTI Pocket Controller-Professional , I am afraid to install Linux , absolutely unknown to me , in this situation .
I had to force in Wince to not execute WELCOME , which take care of screen alligment , if WELCOME execute I am stuck on trying forever to allign the screen that cannot be alligned .
The most annoying thing is that PDASMART has not replied to me yet !!!
I asked for return the LCD back to them http://www.pdasmart.com/terms.htm
but to date no answer !
anyone gone and bought an LCD to find it's the wrong model?
If so please PM me and I might buy it off you if it's the right model for me!
Cheers!
9090 (ITA DAANGARD) display with problem
Hi, Sorry but You're not "the one". I've the same pda (daangard sold) and similar problem in the same city.
Time to time display blocks, needs hard reset (this is what I have done but not sure it was necessary), and " I was stuck on trying forever to allign the screen that cannot be alligned- it was need half hour".
About - "I had to force in Wince to not execute WELCOME" - How did you that?
I tought to take the pda, waiting one of my neighbour (that obviously i don't like) and use the pda as a stone (two birds with one act). If you want i could "take off" the display before that 8).
How about your bluetooth range and stability?
Best regards
Sergio
Gbrand said:
BTW, can you add your model to the boardIDs wiki page ?
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done !
I can work on Qtek only through PC and SOTI Pocket Controller-Professional , I am afraid to install Linux , absolutely unknown to me , in this situation .
I had to force in Wince to not execute WELCOME , which take care of screen alligment , if WELCOME execute I am stuck on trying forever to allign the screen that cannot be alligned .
The most annoying thing is that PDASMART has not replied to me yet !!!
I asked for return the LCD back to them http://www.pdasmart.com/terms.htm
but to date no answer !
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qteck 9090 not alignable
hello I have a 9090. It haS alwayS been a probelm : The StyluS iS no more aligned after 30 SecondeS or 1 minuteS of uSe Since i have it.
IS it common with thiS model ? Or my Screen iS broken?
That why I never really uSe thiS phone becauSe uSing the mini keyboard iS not very eaSy. If the Screen iS defect can you provide me an URL where to buy a new one? IS it epanSive?
thankS a lot.
How to replace the PCB cable of the LCD to the motherboard???
Mine is cutted... Were to buy one even if used?
Well .. I had to fix it... LCD anyone??
As I got no answer I bought a new LCD.. all OK now!.
If anyone needs a GOOD LCD with a cutted cable, please let me know.
cox said:
Hi, Sorry but You're not "the one". I've the same pda (daangard sold) and similar problem in the same city.
Time to time display blocks, needs hard reset (this is what I have done but not sure it was necessary), and " I was stuck on trying forever to allign the screen that cannot be alligned- it was need half hour".
About - "I had to force in Wince to not execute WELCOME" - How did you that?
I tought to take the pda, waiting one of my neighbour (that obviously i don't like) and use the pda as a stone (two birds with one act). If you want i could "take off" the display before that 8).
How about your bluetooth range and stability?
Best regards
Sergio
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I know this is an old topic, but 2 (3 with me) have/had the same problem..
Me too, I got only white screen, after I had only replaced the full housing case.. ..reunited all the parts, turned it on, and nothing, only white screen..
which was your solution? Come avete risolto?
Guys according to this Board ID and Screen ID table;
My SPV M2000 BlueAngel has 0x5 Board Id and can work with Sony LCD unit. But I had a Sony LCD unit brand new one from my previous i-mate pda2k; and device starts with a black screen. I can see energy is coming to screen but it never turns on.
Is there anyway to solve this problem?
Well, the time is fast approaching for me to put a different ROM on my angel.
The problem: My digitizer is cracked. As most of you you, this throws off the screen in a Bad Way(tm). The touchscreen does work well enough for me to make use of 90%-99% of the phone's functionality.
Repairing it is something that I do not think I can do (I took it apart last night to find that my LCD assembly is the Sony and that I lack the tools to replace the glass alone), and there isn't anyone locally that I am aware of that could repair it.
So, is there a way that I can pull the current screen alignment data from the existing ROM (older Helmi) and put it into the new ROM (Xplodes' kitchen, or the new one from Helmi due in a few days).
Anyone?
Bah, never mind, I apparently didn't dig far enough in the forum to find the answer.
Now to see if I can flash the new ROM from the SD card (data cable is busted)...
Facts:
QTEK 9100 IPL/SPL 2.17
After HTC logo it goes to QTEK logo, then fades to white and reboots.
After x number of reboots it sometimes boots Windows WM5. No radio though.
Story is long, sorry.
I wanted to upgrade my phone to WM6 last summer.
Since I was careful not to brick my phone i ordered help from IMEI-Check.co.uk.
I got the code and the software and got busy.. It did'nt work however.
First time it seemed to go fine at first but later it reported to have lost communication with the device. On reboot it would display the problems on line 4 and 5 above. I followed advice and reflashed the device with original rom. Now the device was fine again.
I retried the procedure but got the same problem.
again I tried to reflash original rom but now RUU reported "Invalid Vendor ID"
I sent the device to repair but got it back in the same condition I sent it. "Moisture damage". I opened the device but found very litte evidence of moisture damage.
The device have been sitting in a box ever since, I bought a TYTN, but now I would like to see if there is really nothing I can do to bring my Wizard back to life.
Any good advice will be very appreciated.
Regards
/m
Since warranty is void and you already opened the phone i suggest you get an old tooth brush and some alcohol and give a good 'sponge bath' to it just in case there's some short circuit happening in a hidden place. Be sure to have it well dried before inserting the battery (leave unassembled for some hours or use a hair dryer from a large distance)
After that get phone in bootloader mode and write a 1.xx ROM to it to attempt CID unlocking via free procedures.
If that goes well just upgrade to a 2.xx ROM (with IPL/SPL) and then to WM6
good luck
I will try it
but can there really be a short circuit if the device has been in a box for 6+ months? I suppose it's possible.. I'll let you know.
Hi Everyone this is my first post on xda Developers so go easy on me
Ive been reading alot about flashing to upgrade the wizard/K-Jam to use WM6 and thought i quite liked the idea, so decided to investigate further.
Im new to flashing phones/PDA's but not new to the concept of firmware and EEPROM flashing and PC's etc.
I thought as afirst timer i would follow the newbies guide posted in the "best ROM" thread.
It all looked quite straight forward so i proceeded to the first step of unlocking.
My wizard is a G3 so i followed the G3 guide and flashed with the "button ROM" and all seemed fine and the phone booted up fine etc, i then thought id reboot again (for some reason, just to double check all was well) and upon boot up the screen was scrambled i could see colours etc in the scrambled mess as if it was the blue windows splash screen ans then i got the Ping the phone usually makes of first boot that prompts fot the screeen alignment wizard, but the screen was still scrambled.
It looks kinda like when a laptop screen cable is broken so i thought maybe my cable has come loose from the mainboard, i decided to open the phone up and check,
No the cable was fine, i chcked all the connectors inside and put the phone back together.
Booted up, Still scrambled
I then decided to cut my losses and reflash to the standard Imate K-jam Rom, so i went and downloaded that from imates website and reflashed.
booted up, still scrambled
Have i somehow bricked my phone?
Has someone come accross this before, and got any idea of a soloution?
It seems to me like there is something wrong with the screen but why would i go wrong when flashing a ROM ?
Any help would be much appreciated.
Many thanks
DigitalMetal
i think k-jam is g4 atleast mine is g4. this is only the hint that u might hav flashed wrong rom.
mine is G3 as it doesnt have the trailing numbers after the spl it just says 216 not 216.00.00 ...etc ....etc so i think im correct in saying mine is a G3 and i flashed with a G3 ROM.
And when i flashed the Button ROM it was OK untill i restarted because i saw the splash screen and the screen alignment wizard.
Once the screen went bad i reflashed it with the genuine Imate Kjam rom and its still bad.
Hi There! Sorry if i put this thread on wrong place but im new in this forum and i will need a litle time to browse and learn the rules, sorry for my bad english !!!
Ok i have a problem with vonino jax qs ( iNew v3 ) i broke my screen and i deside to bay a new one online and fix it and theres come the problem when i connect the new screen i had only white screen with black lines like broken matrix (no sound no vibration no lights on "home" buttons, nothing, only one red indicator when i put it to charge ) but i dont think that the new lcd is broken two bcs its brand new and theres no damages, i read in some forums that this phones need to be reflashed with new roms after screen replacements and i reflash it with last oficial rom for this model but nothings happend. Im sure in my self that i replace the screen correctly because this is not the first phone that i fix. I whrite to vonino support for east europe for some help but they respodn me only with : take it to vonino service in your country... ok but they whant me monney for 2 brand new phones form same class to fix it...
im not sure if i bay the correct lcd because i bay lcd for iNew V3 there was nothing for Vonino and its same like Jax qs, same look same screeen same motherboard same chip same ram same connectors, realy i dont know :X
if someone whant to send him a picture of the screen pls let me mail or something because im new and i cant post outside links
i hope someone can help me
Thank you in advance !!!
w220v said:
Hi There! Sorry if i put this thread on wrong place but im new in this forum and i will need a litle time to browse and learn the rules, sorry for my bad english !!!
Ok i have a problem with vonino jax qs ( iNew v3 ) i broke my screen and i deside to bay a new one online and fix it and theres come the problem when i connect the new screen i had only white screen with black lines like broken matrix (no sound no vibration no lights on "home" buttons, nothing, only one red indicator when i put it to charge ) but i dont think that the new lcd is broken two bcs its brand new and theres no damages, i read in some forums that this phones need to be reflashed with new roms after screen replacements and i reflash it with last oficial rom for this model but nothings happend. Im sure in my self that i replace the screen correctly because this is not the first phone that i fix. I whrite to vonino support for east europe for some help but they respodn me only with : take it to vonino service in your country... ok but they whant me monney for 2 brand new phones form same class to fix it...
im not sure if i bay the correct lcd because i bay lcd for iNew V3 there was nothing for Vonino and its same like Jax qs, same look same screeen same motherboard same chip same ram same connectors, realy i dont know :X
if someone whant to send him a picture of the screen pls let me mail or something because im new and i cant post outside links
i hope someone can help me
Thank you in advance !!!
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If you didn't get the exact same screen from the exact same model then it won't work because of driver differences in your kernel, you'll have to modify your original kernel to work with the new screen.
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If you didn't get the exact same screen from the exact same model then it won't work because of driver differences in your kernel, you'll have to modify your original kernel to work with the new screen.
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hi!!! thanks for the answer!! can you tell me something more about this modification and drivers how to do it ?!
did it work if i flash rom for iNew v3 ?! or if not how to modidy the original kernel ?!
thank you !!
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hi!!! thanks for the answer!! can you tell me something more about this modification and drivers how to do it ?!
did it work if i flash rom for iNew v3 ?! or if not how to modidy the original kernel ?!
thank you !!
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To compile a new kernel for your model number you'll have to get the stock kernel source code that your device came with, then modify that to include support for the new screen. What tools you need and how to do it will have to be answered by someone else, I'm not a kernel developer, I just know that in order to use hardware that is different than what you had requires a new kernel because the kernel is what tells the device how to use the hardware components in the device.
You'll have to do some research to learn how to compile kernels, it's quite difficult, especially for someone that has never done it.
It will require trial and error, you won't get it right on the first try, and you'll probably brick your device a few times and have to restore it several times before you get it working correctly.
Find some kernel developers and ask them for advice.
Or get the correct screen for your model to save yourself the trouble.
Or get a new device if you can't figure it out.