Hey guys,
just a small question here, how do I upgrade my spl/ipl from 2.21 to the latest, 2.26, without messing with my otherwise fine working 5._underground installation? tnx a bunch for any help!
btw, anyone interested how I flash my wizard and get it -fully- back in shape in under 30 mins? (yes, I mess my wizard up reguarly)
spl/ipl is not included in the underground rom(?)
flash a rom with the spl/ipl you want, then flash the underground again
Before upgrading your IPL/SPL be sure you don't have a G4 model. If so don't upgrade cause that would brick your phone.
make sure u know which version ur Wizard is, G3 or G4...after doing so, u wanna CID unlock your deivce, theres a sticky of how to do that...and in the CID unlock tutorial, it will tell u how to get IPL/SPL 2.26(good base for ROMS)...basicly u install the T-Mobile ship 2.26 ROM which has it...and after that, ur ready to move over to WM6 or any other ROM...
tnx
tnx for the feedback. too bad one has to revert back to the shipped rom, and then flash the pda again to use one's preferred os. Should have thought of that before I guess.
is it worth the trouble to get to 2.26 in stead of 2.21? What exactly does spl/ipl sw do?
IPL/SPL.. I think it is like.. Initial Program Loader and Secondary Program Loader? which is like the BIOS on your PC. In most cases, it will not cause any problems, many seems to be alright getting new ROM without touching the IPL/SPL. However, I think there are several cases with Underground WM6 that, you need a "strong" IPL/SPL for it to work. So, I guess it must be doing something. Just check the thread on your preferred ROM and see if others are fine using your current IPL.. and then you decide if it is worth upgrading.
sorry for my ignorance..
i just want to clarify something..
does upgrading to newer IPL/SPL version affects the speed of device?
double_ofour said:
does upgrading to newer IPL/SPL version affects the speed of device?
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Interesting question.. as far as I know, there isnt anyone actually compared IPL before. Most IPL came together with new ROM as a package and when things went better (or worse), it is usually the ROM that takes the credit (good or bad). HOWEVER, even so, in some cases, the apparent speeding up of your phone is due to a `clean OS` rather than a `new OS`. Which is like what you get if you get yourself a new WinXp installed. Phone wise, it may be due to the plugin you've installed, the amount of files and contacts in your phone, etc.
As like what I've tested for my good old Charmer here, the result doesn't show much improvements on the new ROM, an improvements of approx 3-6% read/write speed are unlikely to be noticable. 6% is like people telling you that he/she can feel that the room temperature has dropped/raised by 1.5oC in a 25oC room, or tell you the speed difference between a 7200rpm 7632rpm(not exist) hardisk.
Crap aside. I dunno the answer to your question and I don't think there are any people who've tested solely on IPL/SPL performance without a ROM.
thanks for your explanation.. maybe someday we'll know..
consider IPL/SPL as the bios of the device, for those who know computer terminology, u can flash the bios of the motherboard, just as u can flash the wizard with a new ipl/spl as s base...hope u understand it...
hanmin said:
Interesting question.. as far as I know, there isnt anyone actually compared IPL before. Most IPL came together with new ROM as a package and when things went better (or worse), it is usually the ROM that takes the credit (good or bad). HOWEVER, even so, in some cases, the apparent speeding up of your phone is due to a `clean OS` rather than a `new OS`. Which is like what you get if you get yourself a new WinXp installed. Phone wise, it may be due to the plugin you've installed, the amount of files and contacts in your phone, etc.
As like what I've tested for my good old Charmer here, the result doesn't show much improvements on the new ROM, an improvements of approx 3-6% read/write speed are unlikely to be noticable. 6% is like people telling you that he/she can feel that the room temperature has dropped/raised by 1.5oC in a 25oC room, or tell you the speed difference between a 7200rpm 7632rpm(not exist) hardisk.
Crap aside. I dunno the answer to your question and I don't think there are any people who've tested solely on IPL/SPL performance without a ROM.
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ok.. here's mine..
i have IPL 1.01 and SPL 2.26
observe them.. they are different.. one is version 1.xx and the other one is 2.xx
as the people say here in xdev "wm6 is more faster and stable"..
it seems that for me its not..
because i always have lockups and my device is too slow..
Is it maybe because i have an old version of IPL 1.01?..
hhmm.. maybe if i try to upgrade to 2.26-IPL, my wm6 will result to "faster and stable ROM" as other says
or maybe because i came from a himalaya device wich has 400mhz compared to wizard that has 200mhz and thats why i feel slow to it??..
..I dont know.. just my thought..
Yeah, forgot to mentioned this. IPL/SPL does seems to affect WM6. If you read the Undergound WM6 thread, bit at the end, there are people suffering from .. splash screen hanging issues by not having an up to date IPL/SPL. The problem seems to be solved after that guy flashed his IPL/SPL with an official (if I remember correctly) IPL/SPL. This issue is a bit unique, as G4 Wizard doesn't have means of unlocking the CID (with out paying £ £), and hence, currently, flashing the WM6 only flash the ROM portion. Is yours a G4?
Mine is G3..
IPL 1.01
SPL 2.26
i think i have a version 2 bootloader because i have sucesfully flashed a 2.xx radio ROM..
Ill try to upgrade my IPL to something 2.xx and ppost the result and comparison wether they it changes the performance or not..
double_ofour said:
Mine is G3..
IPL 1.01
SPL 2.26
i think i have a version 2 bootloader because i have sucesfully flashed a 2.xx radio ROM..
Ill try to upgrade my IPL to something 2.xx and ppost the result and comparison wether they it changes the performance or not..
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If I was you I would read the topic on unlocking the CID en flash it to 2.26
ipl / spl
Tnx Malik.
If it's anything like with a desktop, the bios would be worth upgrading only when experiencing hardware or performence problems. So when a new ROM comes out with new ipl/spl it's probably nessecary for the rom to work. I would say leave 2.21 as it is, but for double_ofour it's probably better to upgrade to bennefit from the newer roms and lock-ups may go away.
sounds logical?
zSpinner said:
Tnx Malik.
If it's anything like with a desktop, the bios would be worth upgrading only when experiencing hardware or performence problems. So when a new ROM comes out with new ipl/spl it's probably nessecary for the rom to work. I would say leave 2.21 as it is, but for double_ofour it's probably better to upgrade to bennefit from the newer roms and lock-ups may go away.
sounds logical?
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u got it right for the most part, but u wanna keep it at 2.26, not 2.21
ipl / spl
I Agree 2.26 would be the newest and is apparantly not causing problems. After some flashing though i seem to have 2.21 now, wich allso works fine. dunno if downflashing to a shipped rom with 2.26 and then flashing again to underground rom is worth the trouble.
zSpinner said:
I Agree 2.26 would be the newest and is apparantly not causing problems. After some flashing though i seem to have 2.21 now, wich allso works fine. dunno if downflashing to a shipped rom with 2.26 and then flashing again to underground rom is worth the trouble.
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i think its worth the trouble
Follow up about device performance when IPL/SPL upgraded
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=296089
Related
DUE to the first thread been turned into another unlocking one I had no choice but, to close the project.
But I feel that it is unfair to the people that respect my work an appreciate it.
The response to the rom has been overwhelming!!!! I never see this kind of response to a rom since the blue angel days
once again this thread been trashed with crap.rom is no longer available.next realease is pending.got better things to do with my time.plus time job is takeing most of mine time now and with x-mas coming,gonna get worst. when im ready i will contact the testers.no more tester are neede at the moment.
if you experience power-ups with push email folow.this;
now for users that have the device powering up when push email activated,i have been doing some testing;
i setup my push email [web2mail]
now i have setup the device security with a password,so when it comes from stand-by,will ask for it,
then a setup devicee lock in batterie status to also lock the device [see pictures]
what can i say i works fine.
when i receive an email from my server ,it notefys-me with the email sound ,but the device does not power up as reported.
now when the device lock time out is up,the device wakes up to lock itself
and the powers down in 1-2 seconds -this is normal in this rom atleast.
how to the date in the top right corner ?
use registry wizard[included in the rom] to remove the date or time
to use default clic sound download the file below
remove the .zip from the file name as it's just a cab...thanks dr.p
whats is in my rom?
unlcoking problem
people don't get it and it is really easy to unlock CID if they really follow the threads that there are. This thread says it clearly what u do and it is really easy to do it. Most of the people have update tool problem they can solve that with wizard_ROM update utility_noID file on the FTP site of the XDA. They can just put it to the unpcaked faria RC1 file and run it after unlocking CID. Two steps simple and cristle clear !!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=263116&highlight=CID+UNLOCK
/APPLAUDE
Just wanted to thank you for everything so far. Loving the ROM and will continue to provide Beta feedback as much as possible.
hey faria, awsome job i wish i had half your skills. your latest rom has been exeptional, the only issue i had was when i overclocked it the screen would intemitently turn on, oh and the battery meter never went below 57%. any help or sugestions would me much appreciated.
bigdooky said:
hey faria, awsome job i wish i had half your skills. your latest rom has been exeptional, the only issue i had was when i overclocked it the screen would intemitently turn on, oh and the battery meter never went below 57%. any help or sugestions would me much appreciated.
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how much did you overclocked?
LOL!!!
faria said:
You my requested the rom from me but I will select you according to your posts.
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LOL! So you will select us according to whether or not we have something intelligent to say. Well, I am about to put your 8mb rom on my MDA (right now using the RISIDRO rom loaded on top of the t-mobile official 2.26 rom) and will let you know what I think. I will be sure to say something smart. I will just blow you away with my intelligence and technical prowess.
I would like to see some articles on the page-pool size thing though. That's a new one to me. Check my post in the original thread (#419). Anyone wanna point me in the right direction? I can only find how-to's and not any reasons as to why one would do this...
So uh ... how do I unlock my phone? I did not get any keys. Are they on the stylus somewhere? I gotta go download a computer.
Portuguese Support
I faria since i`m new in this all new stuff of cooked rooms and extended roms etc; all that i can do is asking how can i help you on your journey, just tell me how i can donate you something for you to continue the great job that i have the oportunity to see in this forum i will be pleased to help with anythig to honor your Portuguese contribute to the XDA, continua o bom trabalho e ficarei a aguardar pelo "lançamento" da tua nova room EXCELENTE TRABALHO.
well I told you I would let you all know if there was a difference that I noticed between the 8mb and 12 mb with the voicemail issues and in-call issues.
with the 12, sometimes in a call, buttons would become usless and had to soft reset to hang up. same thing with the 8.
with the 12, voicemail icon would not go away after voice mail deleted. havnt seen that with the 8 yet.
other than that, speed is good in both, and everything works like a charm.
Jeb
I hope your donations will provide you with at least the ability to take a night off and go to dinner or maybe get a massage to help you forget the newbie questions. I will be sending a donation as well. You have provided an outstanding ROM that has rivaled (and beaten) multi-m(b)illion dollar companies core and "upgrade" roms.
To all those that wish to ask newbie questions, leave faria's threads dedicated to the enhancement and ultimate release of one of the best ROMS for a PPC phone alone.
The least you could do is create your own thread and post your questions there.
I hope I may be considered for future testing granted my moderately new questions have not been classified as non rom related. If so, I will go study some more and apply to faria U at a later time
G4s and the ROMs
Faria, I think I am onto something here. From what I am reading in the posts, and from what you and I discussed the other day about my extended rom not loading correctly, I think and G4 with IPL/SPL ABOVE 2.17.0001 have a greater degree of security. Again, reading the posts in your other thread, it seems a handful of G4 owners could indeed install your rom fully, while the other half would only get the OS. Correct me if I am wrong, but I am starting to see a pattern.
First and foremost I would like to thank Jose for all the time and effort that he put into making this great rom. If and when you come to NYC I am taking you out and getting you twisted VIP style! But enough ass kissing and lets get to bussiness.
I have had very minor issues.
The mms did not work for me with the settings that I had from tmobile USA. I did get them to work when I got some of the settings cabs from the 2.26 custom extended rom. I did run the auto config that was included to set the network settings.
After installing all the software extras that was included to check how they worked, I have not been able to keep the phone off. When I say off I mean the backlight staying off when nothing is running. I have tried using the XP feature to turn the light off but it doesnt keep it off either. This could be something that I did so I may just reflash and install everything one by one to see where the problem comes from.
I also have noticed some signal problems but I think that was more of me installing those cabs from the 2.26 rom
Any help is appreciated.
one issue i have noticed is right before the device wakes up it white screens for 2-3 seconds then loads the today screen.. i dont know if this is a issue as i have not seen it really affect anything but i figured id let u know.
peraltah said:
The mms did not work for me with the settings that I had from tmobile USA. I did get them to work when I got some of the settings cabs from the 2.26 custom extended rom. I did run the auto config that was included to set the network settings.
Any help is appreciated.
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i also experienced this problem with MMS settings, what i did was delete the settings faria provided and ran a cab file once, soft reset then ran the cab file again and now my settings are there.
Quote:
Originally Posted by dreamteam3x
Dear Faria and users,
Thank you Faria very much for your work on the new ROM, we all
highly appreciate that.I'm really confused about the
result on my Cingular 8125 after it's upgraded to your new ROM,
i mean your AKU 3.2 RC1.
Let me tell you the whole process that i followed to have a
better understanding:
1. ROM before upgrading:
-IPL 2.25
-SPL 2.25
-Radio 02.47...
-OS 2.26 (Shogun_A_La_Card's ROM)
2.What i see after upgrading to your new ROM:
-IPL 2.25
-SPL 2.25
-Radio 02.25.11
-OS 2.26.10.2
3.The proplem that i encountered:
when ROM upgrade finished, the device automatically
restarted and asked me if i wanna run the autorun files
(the installation of Ext_ROM, i know that) and i certainly choosed Yes.
The installation process went smoothly to its nearly end then a
error dialog box poped up with :"/Windows/autoconfig.exe doesnt exist"
,the only thing i could do is to choose "ok".The device restarted and
what i find after that is a new OS 2.26.10.2 without the EXt_ROM.
I downloaded both 8MB and 12MB pool versions but it gives me
the same result for both.
Please help me me on :
1.How to correct those problems.
2.How to upgrade my SPL and IPL to the newest versions?I stay the same(2.25) even when i upgraded the device to 2.26.
Thank you very much for any help.
Was your phone CID unlocked prior to the install? It seems that you have a G3 so the other thread on unlocking should have been done first. (You may have done this prior to another ROM but I am to tired to think about that...) Good luck!
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Urgent helps needed!
So i bricked my Cingular 8125!
I just wanted to upgrade my ROM to the newest AKU 3.2 from Faria.
I did ungrade and errors arised as i described above.
I was told that the fone hadn't been CID unlocked.
I did as what described in lowikiz
-downgrade the rom,
-run enablerapi.cab on my device
-run lowikiz 0.2b
-choose CID unlock
Restarted the fone, what i saw was:
IPL 1.01
SPL 2.25
GSM 2.47.11
OS 3.0.0
There're only two things fulfill me,that's GSM and the OS.I wanted the
IPL and SPL should be 2.26 or later version.
What i did then :
-Downgrade again (hoping that i forgot to SIM unlock)
-run enablerapi on my device
-run lowikiz 0.2b
-choose unlock
And when the fone restart.
What i saw was:
IPL 1.01
SPL 1.01
GSM 1.x.x
OS 1.05.x
when the installation completed, i upgraded the ROM again to AKU3.2
everything went smoothly until it finished.The fone restarted and what i saw was:
IPL 1.01
SPL 1.01
<blank, no GSM version, couldnt believe that>
OS 3.0.0.0
the device kept running until the installation completed.
It restarted again and stopped running.What i can see now is just
nice background and blinking (waited for nearly 15 mins but no futher responses)
IPL 1.01
SPL 1.01
OS 3.0.0.0
It couldn't get further.
I think i bricked my Cingular 8125.
So could you helpers, experienced users help me with that?
Can i fix it?Or can HTC fix it?
Thank you very much!
Hello faria. I said eariler that this was a great rom. I think i have found a minor annoyance, i wouldn't call it a bug. It is related to spb time at least I'm pretty sure it is. I get the calnot.exe error every now and again and the cannot locate the spbtime.exe on reset. Its strange everything still works as it should. I think someone else had this problem in the other thread. I thought is was because spb time was loaded on the mem card and the fact that windows is sometimes late in loading it. So my next step was to move it to the sys mem. Same problem, I guessing it is on spb to fix this. I was probably not designed to work well with aku 3.2. Other than I that i could not find any real problems, except one time i uninstalled spb time and i oculd no longer sync. easliy fixed by hard reset no prob. I'm using 12mb pool. I also used your registry tweak program and set all the cache to the highest settings. Do you think that is a bad idea for this pool size. Have noticed some slow down in performance i don't know if the two are related.
thanks for the great rom again man!!
appreciated
jacob-mda said:
i also experienced this problem with MMS settings, what i did was delete the settings faria provided and ran a cab file once, soft reset then ran the cab file again and now my settings are there.
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I didnt delte it I just ran the other cabs from 2.26 and soft rest it. I think thats where my signal problem came from. I have to reboot to get my signal back.
monadzback said:
well I told you I would let you all know if there was a difference that I noticed between the 8mb and 12 mb with the voicemail issues and in-call issues.
with the 12, sometimes in a call, buttons would become usless and had to soft reset to hang up. same thing with the 8.
with the 12, voicemail icon would not go away after voice mail deleted. havnt seen that with the 8 yet.
other than that, speed is good in both, and everything works like a charm.
Jeb
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i see a patern emeging here the voice mail/phone buttons seems to be an american thing.now i tryng to find out if its a carrier specific thing.
cptcafne
Faria, I think I am onto something here. From what I am reading in the posts, and from what you and I discussed the other day about my extended rom not loading correctly, I think and G4 with IPL/SPL ABOVE 2.17.0001 have a greater degree of security. Again, reading the posts in your other thread, it seems a handful of G4 owners could indeed install your rom fully, while the other half would only get the OS. Correct me if I am wrong, but I am starting to see a pattern.
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please contact-me privite go somethig for you .
Timbo_fdw
Hello faria. I said eariler that this was a great rom. I think i have found a minor annoyance, i wouldn't call it a bug. It is related to spb time at least I'm pretty sure it is. I get the calnot.exe error every now and again and the cannot locate the spbtime.exe on reset. Its strange everything still works as it should. I think someone else had this problem in the other thread. I thought is was because spb time was loaded on the mem card and the fact that windows is sometimes late in loading it. So my next step was to move it to the sys mem. Same problem, I guessing it is on spb to fix this. I was probably not designed to work well with aku 3.2. Other than I that i could not find any real problems, except one time i uninstalled spb time and i oculd no longer sync. easliy fixed by hard reset no prob. I'm using 12mb pool. I also used your registry tweak program and set all the cache to the highest settings. Do you think that is a bad idea for this pool size. Have noticed some slow down in performance i don't know if the two are related.
thanks for the great rom again man!!
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that app has problems in 3.2 roms.
Originally Posted by peraltah
The mms did not work for me with the settings that I had from tmobile USA. I did get them to work when I got some of the settings cabs from the 2.26 custom extended rom. I did run the auto config that was included to set the network settings.
Any help is appreciated.
i also experienced this problem with MMS settings, what i did was delete the settings faria provided and ran a cab file once, soft reset then ran the cab file again and now my settings are there.
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please provide the rigth cab files for the next update.
dreamteam3x said:
Quote:
Originally Posted by dreamteam3x
Dear Faria and users,
Thank you Faria very much for your work on the new ROM, we all
highly appreciate that.I'm really confused about the
result on my Cingular 8125 after it's upgraded to your new ROM,
i mean your AKU 3.2 RC1.
Let me tell you the whole process that i followed to have a
better understanding:
1. ROM before upgrading:
-IPL 2.25
-SPL 2.25
-Radio 02.47...
-OS 2.26 (Shogun_A_La_Card's ROM)
2.What i see after upgrading to your new ROM:
-IPL 2.25
-SPL 2.25
-Radio 02.25.11
-OS 2.26.10.2
3.The proplem that i encountered:
when ROM upgrade finished, the device automatically
restarted and asked me if i wanna run the autorun files
(the installation of Ext_ROM, i know that) and i certainly choosed Yes.
The installation process went smoothly to its nearly end then a
error dialog box poped up with :"/Windows/autoconfig.exe doesnt exist"
,the only thing i could do is to choose "ok".The device restarted and
what i find after that is a new OS 2.26.10.2 without the EXt_ROM.
I downloaded both 8MB and 12MB pool versions but it gives me
the same result for both.
Please help me me on :
1.How to correct those problems.
2.How to upgrade my SPL and IPL to the newest versions?I stay the same(2.25) even when i upgraded the device to 2.26.
Thank you very much for any help.
Was your phone CID unlocked prior to the install? It seems that you have a G3 so the other thread on unlocking should have been done first. (You may have done this prior to another ROM but I am to tired to think about that...) Good luck!
--M
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Urgent helps needed!
So i bricked my Cingular 8125!
I just wanted to upgrade my ROM to the newest AKU 3.2 from Faria.
I did ungrade and errors arised as i described above.
I was told that the fone hadn't been CID unlocked.
I did as what described in lowikiz
-downgrade the rom,
-run enablerapi.cab on my device
-run lowikiz 0.2b
-choose CID unlock
Restarted the fone, what i saw was:
IPL 1.01
SPL 2.25
GSM 2.47.11
OS 3.0.0
There're only two things fulfill me,that's GSM and the OS.I wanted the
IPL and SPL should be 2.26 or later version.
What i did then :
-Downgrade again (hoping that i forgot to SIM unlock)
-run enablerapi on my device
-run lowikiz 0.2b
-choose unlock
And when the fone restart.
What i saw was:
IPL 1.01
SPL 1.01
GSM 1.x.x
OS 1.05.x
when the installation completed, i upgraded the ROM again to AKU3.2
everything went smoothly until it finished.The fone restarted and what i saw was:
IPL 1.01
SPL 1.01
<blank, no GSM version, couldnt believe that>
OS 3.0.0.0
the device kept running until the installation completed.
It restarted again and stopped running.What i can see now is just
nice background and blinking (waited for nearly 15 mins but no futher responses)
IPL 1.01
SPL 1.01
OS 3.0.0.0
It couldn't get further.
I think i bricked my Cingular 8125.
So could you helpers, experienced users help me with that?
Can i fix it?Or can HTC fix it?
Thank you very much!
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im afraid you phone still locked
now put it int bootloader mode and run the latest rom from your provider.
dreamteam3x said:
Quote:
Originally Posted by dreamteam3x
Dear Faria and users,
Thank you Faria very much for your work on the new ROM, we all
highly appreciate that.I'm really confused about the
result on my Cingular 8125 after it's upgraded to your new ROM,
i mean your AKU 3.2 RC1.
Let me tell you the whole process that i followed to have a
better understanding:
1. ROM before upgrading:
-IPL 2.25
-SPL 2.25
-Radio 02.47...
-OS 2.26 (Shogun_A_La_Card's ROM)
2.What i see after upgrading to your new ROM:
-IPL 2.25
-SPL 2.25
-Radio 02.25.11
-OS 2.26.10.2
3.The proplem that i encountered:
when ROM upgrade finished, the device automatically
restarted and asked me if i wanna run the autorun files
(the installation of Ext_ROM, i know that) and i certainly choosed Yes.
The installation process went smoothly to its nearly end then a
error dialog box poped up with :"/Windows/autoconfig.exe doesnt exist"
,the only thing i could do is to choose "ok".The device restarted and
what i find after that is a new OS 2.26.10.2 without the EXt_ROM.
I downloaded both 8MB and 12MB pool versions but it gives me
the same result for both.
Please help me me on :
1.How to correct those problems.
2.How to upgrade my SPL and IPL to the newest versions?I stay the same(2.25) even when i upgraded the device to 2.26.
Thank you very much for any help.
Was your phone CID unlocked prior to the install? It seems that you have a G3 so the other thread on unlocking should have been done first. (You may have done this prior to another ROM but I am to tired to think about that...) Good luck!
--M
=============
Urgent helps needed!
So i bricked my Cingular 8125!
I just wanted to upgrade my ROM to the newest AKU 3.2 from Faria.
I did ungrade and errors arised as i described above.
I was told that the fone hadn't been CID unlocked.
I did as what described in lowikiz
-downgrade the rom,
-run enablerapi.cab on my device
-run lowikiz 0.2b
-choose CID unlock
Restarted the fone, what i saw was:
IPL 1.01
SPL 2.25
GSM 2.47.11
OS 3.0.0
There're only two things fulfill me,that's GSM and the OS.I wanted the
IPL and SPL should be 2.26 or later version.
What i did then :
-Downgrade again (hoping that i forgot to SIM unlock)
-run enablerapi on my device
-run lowikiz 0.2b
-choose unlock
And when the fone restart.
What i saw was:
IPL 1.01
SPL 1.01
GSM 1.x.x
OS 1.05.x
when the installation completed, i upgraded the ROM again to AKU3.2
everything went smoothly until it finished.The fone restarted and what i saw was:
IPL 1.01
SPL 1.01
<blank, no GSM version, couldnt believe that>
OS 3.0.0.0
the device kept running until the installation completed.
It restarted again and stopped running.What i can see now is just
nice background and blinking (waited for nearly 15 mins but no futher responses)
IPL 1.01
SPL 1.01
OS 3.0.0.0
It couldn't get further.
I think i bricked my Cingular 8125.
So could you helpers, experienced users help me with that?
Can i fix it?Or can HTC fix it?
Thank you very much!
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when u downgrade then upgrade with a 2.26 ROM (IPL , SPL) like moliskis and then upgrade to farias and it will show u
IPL=2.26
SPL=2.26
OS=3.000
jacob-mda said:
one issue i have noticed is right before the device wakes up it white screens for 2-3 seconds then loads the today screen.. i dont know if this is a issue as i have not seen it really affect anything but i figured id let u know.
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there is a fix for that in page 7-8 in the old thread
LOL! So you will select us according to whether or not we have something intelligent to say. Well, I am about to put your 8mb rom on my MDA (right now using the RISIDRO rom loaded on top of the t-mobile official 2.26 rom) and will let you know what I think. I will be sure to say something smart. I will just blow you away with my intelligence and technical prowess.
I would like to see some articles on the page-pool size thing though. That's a new one to me. Check my post in the original thread (#419). Anyone wanna point me in the right direction? I can only find how-to's and not any reasons as to why one would do this...
So uh ... how do I unlock my phone? I did not get any keys. Are they on the stylus somewhere? I gotta go download a computer.
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nice try.but no dice
Hi,
I have an 8125 Fully unlocked(Cingular Service).
I Installed XDA Mobile 6. I have radio rom 2.19
I want to upgrade the IPL And SPL.
How shoould I go about this.
What should i go for.
2.6 or 3.x
I am a total newb but i am getting the hang of this.
I looked cant find a simple answer.
Thanks
There is no need to u upgrade your ipl and spl really.. they are just security things.. there is NO difference between any of them as far as I am concerned. Trying to flash them just means more of a chance youll brick your phone.
Also Forgot to add my phone is a G3
I dunno, I just dont find a need to mess with the ipl/spl .. mine is a G4.. I just leave it alone, I could flash it if I wanted to, but what for... it doesnt make a difference in performance or anything.
Don´t mess with your bootloader.....
Mr Madcap is right!
Just to save you a some minutes searching and reading around the site here´s a couple of comments:
Yesterday I read around the forums a comment from someone who said that "the higher the number of your IPL/SPL the higher the trouble for you"
I read also a comparison between 2.x and 3.x bootloaders and the difference is probably 6 to 8 seconds to boot up, being faster the 3.x!! Personally, I rather wait few seconds than wait weeks for the service man returning my repaired phone from dead.
Don´t believe me? Read this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=308772
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=304072
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=306005
And there´s a lot more....
Folks,
Is there a way to downgrade just the SPL?
I'm having problems with a died wizard (mda vario) and my only hope is to get
a SPL downgrade from 3.08 to 1.X, so I'll be able to install again the T-mobile 2.26 rom.
My phone is totally killed at this moment and any help would be greatly apreciated!
Is there a way to flash another wm5 rom that works with IPL 1.x and SPL 3.08?
So I would be able to put the phone to work again, instead trying to downgrade SPL from 3.08...
T-Mobiles 2.26 should already downgrade it for you. I have my IPL/SPL upgraded to 3.08 and every time I get ready to flash a new ROM I load 2.26 first and it always downgrades it back to the 2.26 IPL/SPL.
Xeno,
When I try T-mobile 2.26 rom I got
"ERROR [296]: UPGRADE ONLY. The NBF file cannot be used for your PDA Phone. Please get another NBF file."
Ok, try this. Extract the nk file from the t-mobile rom update and then put that file in this flashing tools folder and then run the rom update utility in the folder and see if it solves your problem.
If you have the t-mobile rom in it's original form (a single exe file) and you don't know how to extract the nk file, that's actually very easy. All you have to do is use winrar, right click on the exe file and choose extract here and all the files will be extracted for you and nk file will be right there where you extracted it to.
By the way, I'm assuming that you are CID unlocked since you upgraded your IPL/SPL to 3.08.
Xeno1, thanx by the help,
Using original T-mobile 2.26 rom, it gives me File Read Error [238]
Now I'm Trying with wizard love rom, and its trying to flash
let's see what happens...sometimes my battery ends before finishing the flashing procedure, and I have to recharge again...(don't have cradle)
Hopefully the wizard love rom will work for you. Did you get that error using the flashing tools that I uploaded and the nk file from the t-mobile rom?
Oh, I just read your post in the did I kill the wizard thread. I didn't know you had an IPL of 1.xx and an SPL of 3.08. No wonder the t-mobile rom was doing that. The wizard love rom shoulkd be able to fix that for you.
Yes,
I'm using your flashing kit. First time the battery went down, so I'm trying again.
I tried this afternoon the Xda_MiniS_LaunchROM_v154102 rom too, and nothing happened (it flashed 100%, no errors at all). Just my IPL turned to 1.05, and the system didn't boot up.
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I don't know if my battery is damaged too, or the flashing procedure needs a lot of energy, but I had no lucky flashing this yet. The phone very often go back to the rainbow screen (showing a lose of battery power)
There seems to be a few people with an IPL of 1.05 and an SPL of 3.08 on here and all of them seem to have the same problem you're having. I'm not sure that the flashing tools that I gave you are going to help, but you can try them and see. It's worth a try anyway. Flashing the wizard love rom is what most people have been suggesting to do to fix it though. Did you try flashing the 3.08 IPL/SPL update aagain and seeing if that fixed it?
Nice idea about update again to 3.08,
So, this is a know issue? (having 1.X IPL and 3.08 SPL?)
Is there any known recovery procedure?
I did not try to do a 3.08 update again.
At this moment I'm recharging the battery, so I'll try one more time the wizard love rom, and can try to upgrade to 3.08 again as you said...
Trying to flash again the 3.08 update I got this:
ERROR[300]
These update utility cannot be used for your PDA phone. Please get newer Update Utility
Now I'll try the love rom again...
Any other ideas?
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I don't know if it is a battery issue or a problem with the love rom, because I've tried 5 times and got the rainbow screen at 55%, 85%, 96%, 99%, 100%, for example...I'll recharge battery for about 3 hours and give another try.
Any other good idea?
You could try using those flashing tools with the nk file in the 3.08 IPL/SPL update also and see if that works. I have a few more ideas to work on yet if those don't work.
Trying the 3.X flashing tools with wizard love rom I got the
message 300 (invalid rom, get new one..)
I still wanna try a full wizard love flashing, so we can try to conclude anything.
I'll go to sleep now, and will charge battery all night.
Tomorrow I'll give you the feedbacks...thank you Xeno1 for your help
We're almost there...
It's probably a good idea to give it a full charge before you start trying again. Heres another thing I thought of, I extracted just the IPL and SPL from the 2.26 rom and made a IPL/SPL 2.26 update for you.
Xeno1, you're a genius!
It worked!
I could not flash the wizard love rom, it's always stopped before the 100%.
I flashed your 2.26 ipl/spl rom, without hope, and it suddently started the chime!!!
Now my IPL is 2.26 and SPL is 3.08.... (the SPL didn't change anyway, but I'm glad the phone is back!!!)
Do you have a Vario MDA G3 wizard? I never could see(or even install) a WM6 on it, do you know if is it really possible? (I messed the things up trying to do that...)
Yes, I have a G3. I'm glad that worked for you. You still probably need to get your IPL ans SPL to be the same number. Running the 3.08 IPL/SPL update should be able to take care of that now.
WM6 is definitely possible on a wizard, It's been on my phone for about 2 months now. Before you flash to WM6 though, make sure you flash the whole t-mobile 2.26 rom back on it so that it has a good clean base.
Anyway, let me know how things go.
lotsa people make mistakes when flashing their rom for the first time and all.
whenever you start...when you use buttoms or love rom...BOTH your IPL and SPL should be 1.XX...before you start flashing back up. If BOTH are not 1.XX, you have to reflash with buttons or love, until they both drop down to 1.XX.
a lot of people don't read that part of the step...and seem to just flash with button or love once...have one number as 1.XX the other as 2.XX and then try to upgrade...lotsa times this causes problems.
in most cases, if you flash back down to 1.XX with buttons or love, and keep doing so til they are the same and then flash back up, things tend to work...otherwise...you can be screwed...
is it possible to flash wm6 right after flashing love rom with both ipl/spl 1.X, or should I do some other flashing before wm6?
If the WM6 ROM includes IPL/SPL, you can flash it without problem.
However if the ROM is OS only, you will get stuck at bootloader as WM6 requires 2.xx or IPL and SPL to load.
I have a CID unlocked wizard which has seen many roms, without any problems.
Lately I upgraded to IPL/SPL 3.08 and tried the touchflo rom.
Since it didnt work as expected, i presumed i needed to go back to the button rom before burning yet another rom.
Guess that was a mistake. I am now stuck on IPL 1.01 ! Whatever I do, cant get it to go to anything higher. Tried 2.26 IPL/SPL only, the full t-mobile version, the 3.08 again (which gives me spl 3.08 only this time), the german rom etc.
All that changes is the SPL. Tried installing enablerapi again, no result.
I can always get back to 1.01 IPL/SPL but THAT's IT ! NO other ROM works anymore!
What to do, what have i done....
You mean you can flash and work with Button ROM?
If so why not try to go from there to Qtek WWE 1.06, then 2.17 or 2.26?
tried flashing to 1.06 .. and got at 96% that the NBF was no good for my device.
However it changed the spl to 1.01.0000 instead of 1.01.
you should flash the buttom or love rom over and over again til you get both spl and ipl to 1.xx. people in the the threads have commented that sometimes it could take up to 8 flashes or more to eventually get it to work...dunno what causes it, but afterwards, flashing to a carrier rom should be fine...
good luck
Please read my first post.
I can get both IPL and SPL the same without a problem.
Both are 1.01 at that point.
I have been burning ROMs for a year now, so I know about this stuff already.
It must have something to do with going back from 3.08.
I have been on 3.08 both IPL and SPL dont forget!
At 1.01/1.01 IPL/SPL I still can not burn any ROM without error.
It wasnt like this before, have been on high numbers already.
after trying yet another operator ROM, gone back to IPL/SPL 1.01/Button ROM.
(shouldnt it say 1.05 btw?)
Button doesnt fully install anymore.. it gets stuck at about 98% after discobuttons.cab on the extended rom installation.
maybe that is a hint?
should i reinstall enableRAPI and cert_spcs before upgrading? my phone is cid unlocked for sure, and the service tool also says it is.
UPDATE: * installing xda mini..
* it got me 1.01 / 1.05
* reinstalling mini
* install also stops on signed discobuttons.sa.cab
d-lite said:
after trying yet another operator ROM, gone back to IPL/SPL 1.01/Button ROM.
(shouldnt it say 1.05 btw?)
Button doesnt fully install anymore.. it gets stuck at about 98% after discobuttons.cab on the extended rom installation.
maybe that is a hint?
should i reinstall enableRAPI and cert_spcs before upgrading? my phone is cid unlocked for sure, and the service tool also says it is.
UPDATE: * installing xda mini..
* it got me 1.01 / 1.05
* reinstalling mini
* install also stops on signed discobuttons.sa.cab
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It means you can take it as far as installing extended_rom? Why don't you soft-reset the phone when the message of the 3 seconds appear?
if you're just installing button rom as a step to higher roms why the extended_rom? Simply forget about it and install 2.xx
No roms worked anymore, so tried ipl/spl 2.26 together with the installer from button.. it gave me 2.26 on spl again. NO change still on IPL.
IPL seems pretty stuck on 1.01.
in case it helps, are you flashing on windows xp or windows vista?
Here, try this. It's IPL/SPL 1.05 only. I'm not sure if it will work but it's worth a try.
It gives me 1.01 / 1.05 ....
trying multiple times .. hold on
tried 10 times.. ipl 1.01 spl 1.05
giving it few more tries on button
oh windows xp professional 32bit ..
trying love, buttong all in a row again.. still on IPL 1.01 SPL 1.01.
I think i found a new way to brick a wizard, goto 3.08 and back to 1.01
However, I think the phone not fully installing the extended rom must be a hint, since it usually had no problems with this.
Now on love and button, it stops at discobuttons.
Hate to tell you this, but I'm out of ideas at the moment. If I think of something, I'll let you know though.
Just a quick thought though, did you try removing the battery for about a half hour or so and then trying it again?
will leave battery out all night and try again tomorrow.
apart from the 'not being able to fully install extended rom' another thing that is remarkable is that the wizard service tool says I don't have a Wizard, after that however the info is correct (wiza200, cid unlocked etc).
further most ROM installers now crash at about 95% with error 320 saying the NBF is not made for my device.
is there anyone that has succesfully been on ipl/spl 3.08, down to button and up to 3.08again?
something else, the bootscreen doesnt show a GSM ROM version anymore, is that normal on ipl 1.01, could it be that i need to downgrade to certain gsm version ?
^$%#$ i dont think i can get the t-mobile service department to fall for my bricked mda excuses for a second time.
was pretty proud i got them to fix it for free first time i bricked it.. but this is different hehe....
(in case you wonder: 24volts made them not discover the cid lock, just created a bigger problem for the phone so they gave me whole new pcb.. i said the powersuply caused it )
The person that I was helping on that other thread successfully got his from 3.08 down to 1.01 and then back again. It wasn't easy, but getting theirs back up was a walk in the park compared to yours. I seriously hope that leaving the battery out over night does the trick because I'm pretty much at a loss as to what else to do.
It not showing a gsm version shouldn't be a big deal. You said that your rom installers are shutting down at 95% so it just may not be installing the radio, but your wizard should still operate without it. You just wouldn't be able to do any phone related things like make calls etc. but everything else should still work.
Don't worry about the wizard service tool saying that it isn't a wizard, it says that when I run it on mine too.
Just a thought, and definitely not a suggestion since you mentioned the 24v thing, do you have insurance on it? Accidentally dropping it in the bathtub might help solve your problem, not that I would ever condone insurance fraud or anything like that. All you would be out would be whatever your deductible is, although if your deductible is like mine it still wouldn't be cheap. I'd still give a little more time before doing anything rash anyway.
xeno1 said:
Just a thought, and definitely not a suggestion since you mentioned the 24v thing, do you have insurance on it? Accidentally dropping it in the bathtub might help solve your problem
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good idea, but on the limit for this kind of thing for this phone as you can understand from the 24v issue
now at work, phone doing without battery all night... told him it is final warning, maybe taking his juice away will make him realise it is time to get to life
LOL Good idea. Tell it that if it doesn't decide to straighten up and start working you're going to run it over with your car. That ought to make it decide to work again'
So did it fix it?
oh man it got really angry with me.
on the wizardlove rom i had no radio @ all. but no charging or power info either!
you guessed it, been playing with wires and a 1.5v-12v powersupply set on 4.5v. Since it was doing it's paperweight imitation on me.
Got power back on 39%, going for a uuh 41% walk of my labrador.
Keep you posted.
Btw, extended rom in wst is unknown... is that any hint?
could protocol version be a hint?
next thing i try is flash another radio first, turn around the sequence.
Hmm, with the things that are hapening right now, no radio and the extended rom being unknown, I'm starting to think maybe the rom you're flashing has somehow become corrupted. You don't really need to worry about the ROM or the radio too much anyway, that shouldn't really have any bearing on whether you can get your IPL up or not. Try just flashing the 1.05 IPL/SPL update or the 2.26 update again and see if leaving the battery out for a while finally lets you upgrade it.
Hello all,
I am somewhat of a newby here, but I have successfully unlocked my Cingular 8125 and installed a couple of WM6 ROMs. I followed the procedure of downgrading to Button 1.05 ROM, then running Lociwiz, then installing T-Mobile 2.26, then WM6 ROM. Worked great...until now.
I was going to try another ROM, and I followed above procedures (didn't know if I needed to after initial unlocking, but I did anyway). At the "install T-Mobile 2.26" step, after 1 %, I got an error 326?, nb file not for this device. I can still install cooked WM6 ROMs, and the SPL changes, but IPL always remains at 1.01. If I try to install IPL/SPL 3.08 CAB, SPL changes to 3.08, IPL stays at 1.01. I have re-installed Button Rom 1.05 and run Lociwiz a dozen times to no effect. Even the Cingular WM5 OS meant for this device gives me the same error code as the T-Mobile.
I'm hoping this is a simple newby error. Anybody have any suggestions.
Thanks for any help.
By the way, after loading Button ROM, my Wizard hangs during the customization routine at Signed_DiscoButton8.sa. I must soft reset.
I got exactly the same problem.
I am now on IPL 1.01 , SPL 3.08, radio 2.69, using rom NBD 8.3
doesnt seem a problem however...
d-lite said:
I got exactly the same problem.
I am now on IPL 1.01 , SPL 3.08, radio 2.69, using rom NBD 8.3
doesnt seem a problem however...
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Hey m8,
have you forgotten this thread (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=319582) ? (see last post)
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hahaha nice to see good spirit after all this
Here goes:
Make backup of the CID block (VERY VERY important!!!)
Make backup of the GSM calibration block (VERY VERY important!!!)
Kill wcescomm.exe process
Start mtty, enter bootloader mode in Wizard and connect
type doctest (this will write test patterns in DOC chip and clear all data!)
Flash button ROM (1.01_IPL/1.01_SPL/1.05_OS)
Flash CID block backup (don't miss this)
Flash GSM calibration backup (important)
If all ok then remember to upgrade to 2.xx before installing WM6!!
Post results
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Use WST for steps 1, 7 & 8
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are you willing to prove me wrong?
mestrini said:
are you willing to prove me wrong?
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yes.. missed your last post to be honest, sorry..
(btw phone is happy till now .. but we go for solving it, killing seems impossible)
step 2, gsm callibration block.. how do i copy?
D-Lite
use the "Read ROM" button and select the appropriate section from the list.
status:
Code:
DOC ImgFS partition read/write test PASS
Ext ROM partition read/write test, offset=0x0, length=0xA00000
Test pattern =0xAA
Flash Ext ROM failed.
DOC Ext ROM partition read/write test FAILED
--Flashing button rom @ 100%
--DATA CRASHES PLEASE CONTACT SERVICE CENTRE
--WST Says I am still on SPL 3.08 and rom is write protected.. screen of wizard says SPL 1.01 ...
--Installing Button ROM, ... SIM Lock SUDDENLY
--Screen goes funny flashing between simlock and customise
--Few soft-resets, WST now convinced on SPL 1.01 and flashed CID block
--Soft-reset
--Imei gone, flashed back GSM callib. data, softreset
--doesnt boot passed the pint of beer... going for RUU of T-Mobile 2.x
--bootloader, flashing RUU_Prodigy_2210205_22102108_021911_TMO_NL_DUT_Ship.exe
--The NBF can not be used for your phone @95%, followed by congratiolations (stupid software)
--trying UK version...
--all give error 326
--another button flash
--*PLING IDEA* on 3.08 i couldnt doctest properly... so doing it again
-- bad idea.. same result...
damn... i thought it would work
anyway, there was point where the phone had same values for IPL/SPL (not too bad ). What is strange is why phone didn't boot anymore after flashing the GSM calibration and saying the flashes weren't suited for the phone.
What state is it on now? Wanna go again? This time, instead of flashing the 'GSM calibration data' do a simple IMEI writing and try to unlock CID before upgrading to official ROMs
sorry for this...
IPL locked on 2.26
I am having the same issue. I have tried numberous times to load my original rom and get the 326 error @ 1%. My ipl remains locked on 2.26. Is there any way to fix this? Please help.
it is now on 1.01, got my own imei back, spl 3.08, nbd 8.x rom...
everything fine again.. pretty sure it has something to do with ext.rom and/or write protection of it.. will give it another shot but not this month.. getting busy
@acmickey, not sure if you got same issue... is your IPL 1.01? else you might just have a locked phone..
Hey d-lite,
I followed your example and loaded BSD8.3 ROM and IPL/SPL 3.08 and radio 2.69. Everything seems to be fine. No missed calls. All programs work (touchflo is pretty cool). IPL is still locked on 1.01, even though SPL is 3.08.
I tend to agree with you that something is suspicious concerning the extended ROM. The first symptom I had that something was wrong was after loading Button's ROM, during the customization routine, Signed_DiscoButton8 would not install. Phone locked up and had to soft reset.
Oh, well, at least the phone works. The downside, of course, is that you can't load an original ROM, even though you can load a cooked one. Weird, huh?
Hopefully someone a lot more knowledgeable than I will figure this one out soon. Will keep checking the boards. At least we don't have bricks.
I am having the exact same problem as the 1st post but my ipl is stuck on 2.26. I am using an unlocked device and I have no problem downgrading/upgrading the spl. I also get the 326 error when I try to flash back to the original rom. (I used to be able to do this without a problem - I can't figure out what happened.)
It's really weird and I have search and searched and can't seem to figure out a solution.
which SPL you have now?
sorry.... my spl is 1.01
Right. Assuming your device is working 'normally' are you willing to try something new? If so contact me PM
what have you cooked up this time mestrini? lol
my wiz (at 1.01 still..) is doing a-ok, but always willing to go for something new so we can fix this for the communities sake...
d-lite said:
what have you cooked up this time mestrini? lol
my wiz (at 1.01 still..) is doing a-ok, but always willing to go for something new so we can fix this for the communities sake...
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sorry to mislead you buddy but acmickey got it all wrong and, instead of IPL stuck at 2.26 and SPL 1.01, he has same as you IPL 'locked' at 1.01
So my theory could not be verified.
cheers