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Orange M2000 upgrading (device info)

Hello
Have read the wiki and all the information and would like to upgrade however when it states select your original shippers rom, none of them match my details
I think i must have one of the first ones though cause i received my M2000 before all the stock issues occured with orange
Rom Details:
Operator Version: 5.12.1.139
ROM Version: 1.12.22 WWE
ROM Date: 09/27/04
Radio Version: 1.04.00
Protocol Version: 1337.35
ExtROM revsion: 1.12.139 WWE
any help would be appreciated as I really think its an old old release version
Thank You in advance

Welcome to the forum.
Your rom is old and we dont have many if any new Orange roms.
So if you want to upgrade the rom your best choice is the 1.40 and radio 1.10 or 1.12. (you will have to work out which one you need based on what you read here).
How to upgrade is on wiki.
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=BA_1.40.00_Upgrade
You might have to think about your Ext rom, unlocking it and saving the Orange related things.
Read the stuff again in the kitchen and here is what you have to work out what you want to save.
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=BA_ERK_X_112139
Have fun and yes most of your questions have answeres in wiki.

got an m2000 also. didnt read the instructions before doing a rom upgrade. the first couple of times i thought i had destroyed the phone cos it wouldnt boot up. installed the imate latest update and works like a beauty. latest everything on it.cant see any major differences from old rom that i can notice. apart from different wifi icon (prefer new one) and windows media player 10 (great). as fro expternal rom i also installed the imate one cos the orange was nothing special. dont miss any of the setting from it apart from the gprs which i barely use just latch on to wifi wherever i go. too many unsecure wifi connections in north london anyway

my upgrade to the Imate rom is complete, however i am wondering if i use XBackUp's backup or the backup i made prior to the ROM upgrade using ActiveSync, will actually just revert the roms back to how they were or will it just keep the same info and just restore my missing data??
Thank You for helping
hmm started restore anyway (thought i'd go on an adventure) then read some posts and found its not a good idea.
so my question has now changed to not if i shud restore but how do i save the txt msgs from the fone and put them back once i have reflashed the phone again?
Thank You

Can I go back to WM2003?

I've got a Cingular SX66 that I upgraded to http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=BA_5.1.1700_build_14343_Upgrade]WM 5 Build 14343 from the XDA Wiki.
Windows Mobile 5 has been running pretty crappy - not letting me answer calls, running slowly, it just isn't worth upgrading to (for me, anyway).
I really want to go back to WM2003, but I've read that the http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?p=91465#91465]ROM doesn't work - can anyone help me out?
Is there a way I can downgrade back to WM2003 and have everything working? If you know how to do this or (preferably) have done it yourself, I'd really appreciate at least somewhat detailed instructions. Thanks.

Excuse me but did you do ANY research at all on this before you upgraded? Every other post here states " READ THE WIKI".... A couple minutes worth of browsing the forums here and you would have had enough first hand user accounts of WM5 and then maybe you could have made an intellegent decision regarding possibly turning your device into a "brick" and positively voiding your warranty.
If you look around just a little more you'll find that the downgrade is very painless. Mamaich and others have painstakinly documented the complete downgrade procedure. It's on the same page that you dl'ed the upgrade from ... the quick link is http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=BA_Downgrade_WM5
Good luck!
SX66 (PH20B1) [Cingular]
ROM: 5.03.02 WWE
ROM date: 03/02/05
Ext ROM: 1.1.9.106
Radio: 1.15.00

Wow. Did I do any research? Yes, I linked to a page with a discussion about people doing the downgrade and having their Radio completely not work.
I guess you made the exact same totally intelligent decision as I did when you yourself upgraded the exact same device to WM5?
If *you* take 10 seconds to check the link that you posted, you'll see that in step #2, the only ROM available for the SX66 did not pass their tests and that, oh, what's this? The Radio doesn't work, just like the discussion I linked to.
Please don't assume I'm an idiot. Hacking handheld ROMs is not something you should get all offensive and riled up about.
Thanks for nothing. Does anyone have any other info?

hmmm... I have pda2k and I upgrade and downgrade all teh time... is the problem you are talking about specific to sx66?

FedoraPunk I never meant to call you an idiot, just curious on why you did an upgrade after discovering that many people had problems going back? Yes I have the same device. And the first time I did the downgrade, back in July, there wasn't a step 2 ... I took a big chance when Buzz, Mamaich and company started this particular forum knowing that I could very well blow up my device. I'm not riled and I apoligize if I'm offensive to you, I just didn't understand your decision to upgrade after learning the facts.
I personally have upgraded and downgraded my device at least 15 times since then, with no problems going back to WM 2003 excepting an ocassional ActiveSync issue downgrading to 3.8
What I suggest is to use Chris' SX66 (Blue Angel) Standardization Project at http://sx66-blueangel.home.comcast.net/
Replace the Standard and Extended Roms with his cooked ROM's. Any problems just ask and I'll be happy to help.
SX66 (PH20B1) [Cingular]
ROM: 5.03.02 WWE
ROM date: 03/02/05
Ext ROM: 1.1.9.106
Radio: 1.15.00

I have (personally) upgrade & downgrade SX66 myself using the link provided above and did not run into any issues.
What exactly are not working after downgrading? Maybe I can check (if I decided to downgrade again)

Ok, I got the right ROM from Chris's site (I chose the 1.33.51 because it's 2003 with WMP10) but I don't know which Radio ROM to flash - can I use 1.15.00? Or is there one that 2003 likes?

I'm using 1.15 with no problems. I personally use the 1.40 but that's me.
Good luck.
Steven
btw, I just went back to WM 2003 less than an hour ago ......
SX66 (PH20B1) [Cingular]
ROM: 1.40.00 WWE
ROM date: 03/102/05
Ext ROM: 1.40.125 WME
Radio: 1.15.00

Aright, I got 2003 back on there no sweat.
I wanna put radio 1.15, but the directions I'm getting are confusing me. I've got an SX66, unlocked. Could someone send me the deviceinfo or whatever it is? I've got the ROM and the Update app, I'm just fuzzy on what else to do.

Simply replace the radio rom file (radio.nbf) with the new radio rom and run MaUpgradeUt_noID. Being that you've already installed the Rom of choice simply rename / move that file from the install directory on your PC. I personally have never lsot any data or configuration settings by upgrading the radio this way.
Steven
SX66 (PH20B1) [Cingular]
ROM: 1.40.00 WWE
ROM date: 03/102/05
Ext ROM: 1.40.125 WME
Radio: 1.15.00

I tried that, and got the device ID error. I need some file to tell the updater what device or something?

I have the same problem with that. I used to uninstall AS 4.1 and put 3.8 back on. However now I've gone back and forth so many times with AS that 4.1 won't entirely uninstall. I have to run AS 4.1 now. I use 2nd computer, install AS 3.8, do not configure sync. Place device in bootloader mode and the run the MaUpgradeUt_noID.
Steven
SX66 (PH20B1) [Cingular]
ROM: 1.40.00 WWE
ROM date: 03/102/05
Ext ROM: 1.40.125 WME
Radio: 1.15.00

Hell yeah - I had to figure out which radio 1.15 file to use, but I got this thing working and signal strength does seem better.

SX66 question

Hello all.
I just found this place and it's great!
I am in the USA and I have a Siemens SX66 with Cingular, running the default ROMS.
I've read there has been issues with with WM5 and others seem to not have any trouble.
What ROMs should I upgrade to?
From links here I also found: http://sx66-blueangel.home.comcast.net/
Are system ROM 1.40.00 and Radio ROM 1.13.00 my best options?
Thanks again, this is really a great site!

I personally would suggest applying the standard and extended ROM's from Chris' SX66 (Blue Angel) Standardization Project which you referenced, then upgrading the radio to 1.15. WM5 is cewl looking and the persistent storage can be a life saver. I go back and forth, probably more than 30 times, hoping that one day the speed and reliability will come through. Being a corporate geek / consultant that hates crackberries I dream of true push mail. However I'm so dependant on Microsoft Voice and my BT that I keep going back to WM 2003, Chris' ROM's being the best.
Best of luck to you in whichever way you go.
btw, Cingular is releasing the 8125 this month! YIPPEE !!!
(guess the wife will get my BA has a hand me down... )
Steven
SX66 (PH20B1) [Cingular]
ROM: 1.40.00 WWE
ROM date: 03/10/05
Ext ROM: 1.40.125 WME
Radio: 1.15.00

I recently upgraded to 1.42 with my own Extended Rom. Since then (probably two weeks ago), I haven't had to reset my phone for one-way sound, wifi not wanting to turn on, bluetooth insufficient driver memory or any of the other minor problems that forced me to reset my phone at least every other day with the 1.40 rom.
If you are going to try the upgrade, copy this extended rom to your device, then use the BA_TMNL_14200_115_11300_ship upgrade (delete all nbf files except nk.nbf). I was able to use the MaUpgradeUt_noID.exe file to load this rom. I think I had to run it twice (first time it puts the device in bootloader mode but gives error, leave it in the bootloader mode and run it again.)
BTW, I had already upgraded to radio 1.15, so you might want to do that first.
Hmmm. FTP not working for me from work, I'll upload the ExtRom tonight and update this post.

Old Radio Stack Won't Upgrade

[writing from work in a hurry, so excuse me for not having all my details in front of me]
I'm a long-time avid user/flasher of the Wizard who recently bought an old BA on eBay for my wife. First thing I did was download the xplode WM5 ROM and flash the sucker. Very nice and now up-to-date.
Call volumes sucked, so I checked her Radio version, and it was 1.02 or something ridiculously old. I tried to flash the newer 1.15 Radio Rom using the bootloader app that came with it (MAUUpdate something). I got a country code error, so I added the special line to the config file to cheat.
Now it starts the process and never gets past 0% on radio flash. Just hangs. And then some strange 114 error when it finally dies.
I've tried with the newest MaUpgradeUt_noID files I could find. I even tried the 1.13 Radio ROM with no change.
I even re-flashed to WM2003 and tried to flash just the Radio from there. Kept getting "wrong device" message or connection error or something. I tried multiple times in a row (one post suggested the first time will error but second time will work).
I did SIM unlock just in case (Cingular on Cingular so shouldn't have been a problem).
Any suggestions out there? I think I've tried everything!

And yes, I've read all posts and wiki's. (Usually I read only Wizard, but have extended my reading to cover the BA).

Have you tried downgraging to WM2003 then upgrading to Radio 1.15 then finally back to WM5?
I had upgraded my radio ROM when still on WM2003 and found no problems!

xummy111 said:
Have you tried downgraging to WM2003 then upgrading to Radio 1.15 then finally back to WM5?
I had upgraded my radio ROM when still on WM2003 and found no problems!
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yes, I did. mentioned that above.
I get either country code error (or after correcting that per the wiki advice, I get long period of hang followed by an odd error 113. I think.
does device origin matter? my BA is from ebay and the getdeviceinfo.cab leaves me a blank result except model number and a few random numbers...

I take it that when everyone else flashed to WM5, they followed the simple Wiki instructions and everything went fine? I think I got some odd-ball sub-model that is resistant to Radio flash.

Downgrade Your BA to the WM2003SE, then unlock it with xda3_all_unlock-v1.6_138.exe tool (You can find it in the BA forum here with description how to use it) then try to flash the Radio ROM You want....And then You might upgrade to WM 5.x again if only You wish.

I've tried one of the other sim unlock apps already (successfully) without solving the problem (was tried on WM5). I'll try the order of downgrade, unlock, then upgrade and see if it works.
Thanks for the suggestion.

Jeremy how did it go? are you able to upgrade to the latest radio rom? I also have the same problem as you do. Do you mind telling me the steps if you somehow able to upgrade to latest rom?

this worked for me. after you flash to a new rom (like xplode's), do not take out the BA yet. flash to the new 1.15 radio rom. then you can do the no/yes/yes routine.

change clock settings -> no singal!

big issue, i am on a G4, iflashed back to a original T-mobile ROM (dammit, got IPL/SPL 3.08.XXX1 and Radio 2.69 - the only on i could find) I am a German staying currently in Australia.
Afterwards I flashed to the latest WM6 (the almost official one). Subsequently i made a Hard Reset i got reception, but after changing the regional steeings* (german) the G-symbol is still shows up but no signal anymore.
Just figured out that is anyhow connected with the time and date setting respectively, under the default setting (London) it seems to work????
Any idea?
Can anybody provide me a link to a official GERMAN t-Mobile ROM with Radio 2.19. (complett because of my G4)?
Cheers!
irm

UPDATE
I tried to install the offical T-Mobile AKU 2.0, but the RUU shows me error 296 maybe because I had already flashed a later official T-Mobile ROM AKU3.3 bevor I flashed WM6?
Any idea how to go back to the old rom, my device is a G4 (locked) (incl. the old RADIO as i guess that causes the problem)?
Cheers!!!
irm