I have just got this Wizard and am having difficulties getting past the first screen: I Have unlocked before and should know the answer to this question. But the annoying thing is that the ugraders do upgrade to 100% and go to FINISH.
The unit then boots to the initial beer mug screen, the red markings appear and the whole unit stops. It is showing an IPL of 1.01 (which I have never heard of before), an SPL of 2.26, a GSM of 01.12.10 and now an OS of 1.5.4.2. No amount of soft booting will get me past this screen and all I can do else is to upgrade to some different ROM and it loads fully and then wont get past THAT splash screen, when it wont of course activate ActiveSync because presumably the ROM OS isnt loading past the splash screen.
I can of course get to the three coloured screen and try again and this result repeats itself.
I should add that PDA Update Utility 2.00.1 gives an error message 300, 'get newer update utility' which seems to make no sense as this is 3.08
licensedtoquill said:
I have just got this Wizard and am having difficulties getting past the first screen: I Have unlocked before and should know the answer to this question. But the annoying thing is that the ugraders do upgrade to 100% and go to FINISH.
The unit then boots to the initial beer mug screen, the red markings appear and the whole unit stops. It is showing an IPL of 1.01 (which I have never heard of before), an SPL of 2.26, a GSM of 01.12.10 and now an OS of 1.5.4.2. No amount of soft booting will get me past this screen and all I can do else is to upgrade to some different ROM and it loads fully and then wont get past THAT splash screen, when it wont of course activate ActiveSync because presumably the ROM OS isnt loading past the splash screen.
I can of course get to the three coloured screen and try again and this result repeats itself.
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What was the ipl/spl...? before you flashed button's rom 1.05 ? and which carrier's Rom was loaded ?
you got ipl 1.01 due to flashing button's rom but your spl remained 2.26,try to flash button's rom a couple of times more,sometimes it takes a lot more than one flash to load up button's rom,or try a hard reset.
secondly,download official carrier's rom and as you say you can get into bootloaders,flash it.
Disconnect your phone from the usb cable,disable any Firewall and Anti virus and reboot your Pc.
1. Make sure your phone is not Connected to the PC and remove the dummy card or SD/MMC card
2. On your Desktop PC, open Microsoft ActiveSync, then go to File >Connection Settings >Remove the Selection from “Allow USB Connection with this desktop computer”
3. Reconnect your phone to the Desktop PC using the USB Cradle and the Charger MUST be Connected to the Cradle (Don’t Bluetooth for the Upgrade)
4. When you see usb appear at the bottom of bootloader screen
5. Run the Upgrade again and it will work fine without any problems.
While upgrading, the ActiveSync program will not go on, however the upgrade is running.
What do you mean by 'I should add that PDA Update Utility 2.00.1 gives an error message 300, 'get newer update utility' which seems to make no sense as this is 3.08',did you upgraded to ipl/spl 3.08 before flashing button's rom 1.05 ?
good luck
I've tried some of that: Now I'll do it properly
OK I will follow your instructions: Just a few points. Firstly I didnt realise that when it says Button's ROM has loaded properly, you might still have to try loading it again a few times.
Secondly I did try loading the manufacturer's ROM and it gave the same result: Loaded fully, went to FINISH. After 100%, wouldn't get past initial splash screen on reset.
Thirdly the reason I was doing the upgrade which failed with that error message was because I just didn't recognise the IPL of 1.anything. So as I had heard that the SPL/IPL was some type of bootloader, I thought that the reason it wouldnt in effect boot was because I was trying to load an advanced ROM with a dinosaur boot loader. So I was trying to load IPL/SPL 3.08 to try the ROM flash again. This seems to have been a red herring. I am reasonably sure that the IPL/SPLs were the same as they are at present before I loaded Button's ROM
Lastly I can do all of this with a vanilla computer I have lying around somewhere onto which I can load ActiveSync 4.5 so I will try that.
I hope this is of some use to users who have this problem
Here's where I am stuck now: Reloading button ROM numerous times did nothing. Same problem. Gets stuck at splash screen. Tried loading T-Mobile ROM. Went successfully to 100% then prompted to FINISH. Same problem. Gets stuck at splash screen. All soft reboots result in same. Holding down all three buttons while pressing the power button seems to result in a black screen with "Press SEND to restore factory defaults, Other keys to quit" Pressing SEND (I presume they mean CALL?) gives a very quick report something like 'Formating FAT32 partition Formatting failed' followed by t-mobile splash screen for a few seconds and then IPL 2.26 SPL 2.26 GSM 02.25.11 and OS 2.26.10.2, so that flash did take successfully and then the screen hangs!
Then I noticed that Vippie tells you that you have to re-run lokiwiz after flashing the Button ROM, which raises the question: how do you do that after Button hasnt actually run it's course after the successful flash? (besides this, which unlock do you run? There seem to be about four options. So presumably you have to assume it is the full CID unlock)
Then I ran the Button again and of course it completed (this time going red at a more normal 98% rather than the 85% as last time, flashing blue quickly and then going red again before going to 100% at red and then turning blue again) and of course it then gets stuck at splash screen as soon as the red info crops up. But as I had received a successful flash report, I re-booted, ran Lokiwiz again and tried to CID unlock again. Naturally lokiwiz gets stuck at the unlock DOS screen when trying to unlock with the Button splash screen stuck on the Wizard (which is a bit Vippie doesnt tell you on his instructions page).
So I Controlled-C to stop the non-running lokiwiz and tried Wizard_Love ROM from the tri-coloured screen, with the IPL of 1.01 and an SPL of 2.26 just to show me that the most recent flash had worked: Which returned the (italian) error 300 message, old utility and of course no activity on the Wizard.
With the tri-coloured screen, plugging the Wizard in again and seeing the USB appear on the Wizard to make sure the computer sees the device, I ran lokiwiz again and saw no activity on the device, just an inactive tri-coloured screen along with a (after about an hour of this) non-working CID unlock program.
Does anyone have any idea what could be causing any or all of this or are these symptoms a bit egregious/
licensedtoquill said:
Here's where I am stuck now: Reloading button ROM numerous times did nothing. Same problem. Gets stuck at splash screen. Tried loading T-Mobile ROM. Went successfully to 100% then prompted to FINISH. Same problem. Gets stuck at splash screen. All soft reboots result in same. Holding down all three buttons while pressing the power button seems to result in a black screen with "Press SEND to restore factory defaults, Other keys to quit" Pressing SEND (I presume they mean CALL?) gives a very quick report something like 'Formating FAT32 partition Formatting failed' followed by t-mobile splash screen for a few seconds and then IPL 2.26 SPL 2.26 GSM 02.25.11 and OS 2.26.10.2, so that flash did take successfully and then the screen hangs!
Then I noticed that Vippie tells you that you have to re-run lokiwiz after flashing the Button ROM, which raises the question: how do you do that after Button hasnt actually run it's course after the successful flash? (besides this, which unlock do you run? There seem to be about four options. So presumably you have to assume it is the full CID unlock)
Then I ran the Button again and of course it completed (this time going red at a more normal 98% rather than the 85% as last time, flashing blue quickly and then going red again before going to 100% at red and then turning blue again) and of course it then gets stuck at splash screen as soon as the red info crops up. But as I had received a successful flash report, I re-booted, ran Lokiwiz again and tried to CID unlock again. Naturally lokiwiz gets stuck at the unlock DOS screen when trying to unlock with the Button splash screen stuck on the Wizard (which is a bit Vippie doesnt tell you on his instructions page).
So I Controlled-C to stop the non-running lokiwiz and tried Wizard_Love ROM from the tri-coloured screen, with the IPL of 1.01 and an SPL of 2.26 just to show me that the most recent flash had worked: Which returned the (italian) error 300 message, old utility and of course no activity on the Wizard.
With the tri-coloured screen, plugging the Wizard in again and seeing the USB appear on the Wizard to make sure the computer sees the device, I ran lokiwiz again and saw no activity on the device, just an inactive tri-coloured screen along with a (after about an hour of this) non-working CID unlock program.
Does anyone have any idea what could be causing any or all of this or are these symptoms a bit egregious/
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First of all,let me advise you that lokiwiz02b tool never works in bootloader mode (tri color screen),to work it has to have a working OS on your phone,therefore using lokiwiz again and again will not work and is of no use,untill and unless your able to flash button's rom 1.05 successfully and it loads up correctly and the phone is in working condition,also downgrading to IPL/SPL 1.xx,lokiwiz will not operate.
Vippe said to rerun the lokiwiz in this sense that if you ever again downgrade to IPL/SPL 1.xx by flashing button's rom.as if you have upgraded to a wm6 Rom with ipl/spl 2.xx or 3.xx and you flash back again button's rom 1.05,than only to rerun the lokiwiz.but if you are able to flash button's rom 1.05 and load up sucessfully to OS and get the device unlocked,than there's no need to go back to ipl/spl 1.05 as your phone will be permanently unlocked.
regarding Error 'Formating FAT32 partition Formatting failed'
well to my understanding and knowledge,it does not pertain to any Rom flashing errors,it's mostly related to sdcard/mini-sd problems,Are you having any sdcard/mini-sd card in your phone,then remove it before flashing cuz it has been seen that sdcard/mini-sd card create problems while flashing.If the sdcard/mini-sd card requires format,it usually get splash screen stuck up or won't let bootloader mode stuck.
So, try to flash button's rom a couple of more times or as sometimes it gives problems then download and try xda_minis_Launch Rom :- http://rapidshare.com/files/43423464/Xda_MiniS_LaunchROM_v154102.exe
and the third option is of course try to flash the official carrier's rom,good luck
Not sure I have simplified enough
Many thanks for the note: To restate the problem, no ROM I flash can get me past the initial splash screen and I am not using any SD card at all.
Every ROM flashes successfully. It always then gives me it's SPL/IPL report on the initial splash screen but none of them get past that first splash screen. All they do is to load the splash screen (whether it is the beer mug or the T-Mobile one) and then tell me what versions I am running in red and then all stop.
Actually I thought that there wasnt much point in re-running the unlock program of whatever type if it was unlocked already but that was how I interpreted Vippie's advice if you had somehow got back to a 1.xx IPL. Now I see that was incorrect. I have tried so many times to reflash Button ROM and seen it complete fully and even close the utility that I am beginning to wonder whether it IS worthwhile trying numerous times again. So I will now try to flash the http://rapidshare.com/files/43423464/Xda_MiniS_LaunchROM_v154102.exe as you suggest.
By the way, I don't ever seem to be able to get the computer to see the device so as to flash it when any OS is loaded (obviously because none of them load after the soft resets after their flashes). it SEEMS to me that I can only get ROMs to re-flash from the three colour screen? But even trying to get a stable T-Mobile ROM onto the machine seems to work this way and as I say usually completes to 'FINISH' and then doesn't get me past the splash screen again. Curiously this device doesn't seem to mind being flashed in tri-colour mode!!
In first splash screen mode with the Button beer mug showing, and with the red text showing an IPL of 1.01,, an SPL of 2.26, GSM or 01.12.10 and an OS of 1.5.4.2 all I get now when I try to flash the T-Mobile ROM is an error 274 or error 260 telling me that although I can see the green light lit on the Wizard telling me that the device IS connected to the computer and the battery IS fully charged, there is no connection between the computer and the Wizard! Actually flashing Xda_MiniS_LaunchROM_v154102 now does the same thing: I should try rebooting and possibly [grasping at straws here] moving the flash directory from the desktop to the root of C:
update
Just to update this, I did flash the mini-ROM Xda_MiniS_LaunchROM_v154102 and it did complete successfully from the tricolour screen (going red at 85% and then at 98% as well) and then completing and closing the utility
And now stops yet again at the Button beer mug after reading the parameters (which are the same)
Sorry to repost yet again
I have now flashed the manufacturers ROM and it took successfully from the tricolour screen and the unit now boots to the T-Mobile initial splash screen where it yet again stops completely after telling me that it is now at spl/ipl 2.26
licensedtoquill said:
I have just got this Wizard and am having difficulties getting past the first screen: I Have unlocked before and should know the answer to this question. But the annoying thing is that the ugraders do upgrade to 100% and go to FINISH.
The unit then boots to the initial beer mug screen, the red markings appear and the whole unit stops. It is showing an IPL of 1.01 (which I have never heard of before), an SPL of 2.26, a GSM of 01.12.10 and now an OS of 1.5.4.2. No amount of soft booting will get me past this screen and all I can do else is to upgrade to some different ROM and it loads fully and then wont get past THAT splash screen, when it wont of course activate ActiveSync because presumably the ROM OS isnt loading past the splash screen.
I can of course get to the three coloured screen and try again and this result repeats itself.
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The issues began right after a ROM downgrade from IPL/SPL 2.25.001 using the button 1.05 ROM. After 100% complete the phone got stuck on the beer mug. I waited 5-10 minutes before doing a soft reboot. Now the phone won't turn on it all.
No LEDS when charging via USB, no activity on the PC. When I pull the battery I get an amber LED and a white screen for a fraction of a second. I think this is just the screen and LED discharging.
I thought it may be a battery issue even though the batter was at 90% before the firmware upgrade. I tried jumping the battery by wiring a 9 volt to the + and - ports on the HTC battery for between 1 and 5 seconds without any luck. I do not have a multimeter to verify, but I think the battery is good. I tried swapping my battery with a co-workers. His phone turned on, mine did not.
At this point I'm pretty sure I bricked it but want to confirm before I move on to my next toy.
Thanks!
Pity no one seems to know the answer to this judging by the number of page views!
lou2ser said:
I'm having similar issues. I got to the beer mug screen and waited 5-10 minutes before doing a soft reset. Now I can't even get the phone to power on. No LEDS when charging via USB, no activity on the PC. When I pull the battery I get an amber LED and a white screen for a fraction of a second.
Any ideas?
EDIT: I've done some reading and it looks like it may be a dead battery. I'll try jumping it tonight and will report back.
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At the moment the Consumer Product Safety Commission is looking into the general question of battery malfunction on these Wizards: T-Mobile seem to know all about it as they have instructions to try to sell customers new units when problems with batteries or battery overheating are reported; if customers don't respond positively, they are instructed to read endless scripts to you and keep you on the phone for as long as possible and hope that sooner or later you will go away.
Did yours overheat before dying? Some element of reseting the device may be called for: I found that with a working unit I have, (not the one with the frozen screen problem) if you simply put another charged battery in it, the Wizard may spring to life. But don't expect T-Mobile to assist you with this, they are in denial about this problem. One suspects Cingular may react the same way, I have never had any experience with them.
Nevertheless this does appear to be a real problem here judging by the number of page views and the lack of suggestions by any moderators?
lou2ser said:
I'm having similar issues. I got to the beer mug screen and waited 5-10 minutes before doing a soft reset. Now I can't even get the phone to power on. No LEDS when charging via USB, no activity on the PC. When I pull the battery I get an amber LED and a white screen for a fraction of a second.
Any ideas?
EDIT: I've done some reading and it looks like it may be a dead battery. I'll try jumping it tonight and will report back.
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what is the data of your phone like IPL/SPL...?,is it a G3 or G4 device,if it's a G3 then it might be your battery problem,either you did not had a full charged battery when you flashed the Rom or may be it's a faulty battery,but did have any previous problems of this battery,before in normal working or before you flashed ?
secondly the most important,If you have G4 device and you flashed a G3 Rom with IPL/SPL 1.05,well....... man you got a Bricked Phone.
There may be another problem, - People dont like answering hardware problems here?
No, read the thread: But I may have a bricked device and not know it. No one has suggested this yet. The device cannot be seen by the computer. If I go to the bootloader screen and then connect the USB cable, I can flash the ROM successfully.
Nobody seems to know why this should be. This flashing changes the splash screen, ROM and the SPL/IPL.
But I can never get past the first splash screen. After the red data is displayed, the unit freezes. Although I always do this with a fully charged battery, lately the unit doesn't seem to want to charge itself.
Can you still flash your device?
licensedtoquill said:
No, read the thread: But I may have a bricked device and not know it. No one has suggested this yet. The device cannot be seen by the computer. If I go to the bootloader screen and then connect the USB cable, I can flash the ROM successfully.
Nobody seems to know why this should be. This flashing changes the splash screen, ROM and the SPL/IPL.
But I can never get past the first splash screen. After the red data is displayed, the unit freezes. Although I always do this with a fully charged battery, lately the unit doesn't seem to want to charge itself.
Can you still flash your device?
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As long as your phone gets into bootloaders(tri color screen),it's not 'Bricked',be rest assured of this,ok
Secondly until and unless you have working OS on your phone,it'll not be recognized by the computer,as it cannot establish connectivity through Activesync.Activesync will only detect your phone in a normal working status,so in present status,your phone doesn't bootup normally into working OS and it only goes into bootloaders,it will never be detected by the Activesync and thus your computer.
The only test to verify the connectivity of your phone with computer at present is that when you attach your phone with the USB cable to the PC and there appears small usb at the bottom of the bootloader screen,that means your phone has established connectivity with PC.
It's a 'catch 22' situation,where your bootloaders are not accepting any Rom flash and the only way is to get your phone start working normal and unlock it ,for that it's required to downgrade to ipl/spl 1.xx,or the other option is to flash the official rom to bring it back to it's default status and then try to downgrade to ipl/spl 1.xx and unlock it.
Well,as you say it's not charging that cud be a major hindrance in flashing,cuz it's recommended to have atleast 70% charged battery before starting any flash,if it does not retain charge during a flash and does not have enough juice left to complete the flash then the flash will not complete,it's a bad flash and phone usually stuck up at the bootloader screen,this cud also be the problem ,you are not getting a full proper flash.
Try to fully charge your battery and then try to flash,if it's not charging,than check your charger or the usb plug of the charger,it might not be having a good connection with the mini usb port of your phone,wiggle it a bit and see if it starts to charge,secondly,it cud also be the mini usb port of your phone which might be malfunctioning,anyway verify and rectify the problem.if it's the usb plug of the charger,get a new charger,but if it's the mini usb port,than I'm afraid you'll have to get it repaired or replaced,
good luck
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what is the data of your phone like IPL/SPL...?,is it a G3 or G4 device,if it's a G3 then it might be your battery problem,either you did not had a full charged battery when you flashed the Rom or may be it's a faulty battery,but did have any previous problems of this battery,before in normal working or before you flashed ?
secondly the most important,If you have G4 device and you flashed a G3 Rom with IPL/SPL 1.05,well....... man you got a Bricked Phone.
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Here's my updated post:
The issues began right after a ROM downgrade from IPL/SPL 2.25.001 using the button 1.05 ROM. After 100% complete the phone got stuck on the beer mug. I waited 5-10 minutes before doing a soft reboot. Now the phone won't turn on it all.
No LEDS when charging via USB, no activity on the PC. When I pull the battery I get an amber LED and a white screen for a fraction of a second. I think this is just the screen and LED discharging.
I thought it may be a battery issue even though the batter was at 90% before the firmware upgrade. I tried jumping the battery by wiring a 9 volt to the + and - ports on the HTC battery for between 1 and 5 seconds without any luck. I do not have a multimeter to verify, but I think the battery is good. I tried swapping my battery with a co-workers. His phone turned on, mine did not.
At this point I'm pretty sure I bricked it but want to confirm before I move on to my next toy.
Thanks!
lou2ser said:
Here's my updated post:
The issues began right after a ROM downgrade from IPL/SPL 2.25.001 using the button 1.05 ROM. After 100% complete the phone got stuck on the beer mug. I waited 5-10 minutes before doing a soft reboot. Now the phone won't turn on it all.
No LEDS when charging via USB, no activity on the PC. When I pull the battery I get an amber LED and a white screen for a fraction of a second. I think this is just the screen and LED discharging.
I thought it may be a battery issue even though the batter was at 90% before the firmware upgrade. I tried jumping the battery by wiring a 9 volt to the + and - ports on the HTC battery for between 1 and 5 seconds without any luck. I do not have a multimeter to verify, but I think the battery is good. I tried swapping my battery with a co-workers. His phone turned on, mine did not.
At this point I'm pretty sure I bricked it but want to confirm before I move on to my next toy.
Thanks!
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hmmm,are you sure it's IPL/SPL 2.25.001 (two '0') and not 2.25.0001(three'0') ?
well if it's 2.25.001,it'a G3 device and I find no reason that it cud brick like this,but if it has 2.25.0001,than it's a G4 device,than it's pretty well known that by flashing a G3 Rom will definitely Brick it.
secondly,First fully charge the battery,somehow,even you can do this by your friend's phone than try to force your phone into boot loader mode.Power off the phone completely,not stand-by but completely power off,and take out the battery for about one minute and insert it again.....Hold down the camera button and while keeping it holding down push down the power on button,as normally you power on the phone,The phone will start up,keep holding down the camera button till your phone gets into bootloader mode(multicolor screen),if it goes into bootloader mode,that means it's not "Bricked"
I'm pretty sure. I wrote it down before staring the update process.
Not sure if this matters:
GSM: 2.25.11.1
OS: 2.25.1.1
Am I describing what a bricked phone looks like? Any other ideas on how to revive it?
This was a replacement from ATT under warranty from an 8125 that had a bad touchscreen. It broke the 1st day and I'm sure I can get another replacement but I want to make sure they aren't going to find a way to power it up and see the hacked firmware.
lou2ser said:
I'm pretty sure. I wrote it down before staring the update process.
Not sure if this matters:
GSM: 2.25.11.1
OS: 2.25.1.1
Am I describing what a bricked phone looks like? Any other ideas on how to revive it?
This was a replacement from ATT under warranty from an 8125 that had a bad touchscreen. It broke the 1st day and I'm sure I can get another replacement but I want to make sure they aren't going to find a way to power it up and see the hacked firmware.
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GSM 2.25.11.1 and OS 2.25.1.1 are the Radio version and windows Rom version which were installed on your phone before.they are not IPL/SPL bootloaders,it can only be verified if a device is a G3 or G4 by bootloader IPL/SPL data.
well,usually when you flash a rom,it replaces the IPL/SPL of the phone,as your phone does not show even the bootloader mode,its difficult to say,if the ipl/spl has been repladed or not.
So if it still has the initial bootloaders IPL/SPL,which were uploaded by the vendors,than there's no problem for replacement,as you can always say that,it never started again,BUT !!!,if during the flashing of Button's Rom 1.05,it has replaced the IPL/SPL than I'm really sorry,it won't be easy to explain and get away that the device was not fiddled with and you won't get a warranty replacement
zabardast_1 said:
GSM 2.25.11.1 and OS 2.25.1.1 are the Radio version and windows Rom version which were installed on your phone before.they are not IPL/SPL bootloaders,it can only be verified if a device is a G3 or G4 by bootloader IPL/SPL data.
well,usually when you flash a rom,it replaces the IPL/SPL of the phone,as your phone does not show even the bootloader mode,its difficult to say,if the ipl/spl has been repladed or not.
So if it still has the initial bootloaders IPL/SPL,which were uploaded by the vendors,than there's no problem for replacement,as you can always say that,it never started again,BUT !!!,if during the flashing of Button's Rom 1.05,it has replaced the IPL/SPL than I'm really sorry,it won't be easy to explain and get away that the device was not fiddled with and you won't get a warranty replacement
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The GMS and OS versions were recorded before any update was done. As of right now the phone does nothing whatsoever. I just want to make sure there's not a magic button the technician can push to see my tampering.
Again, thanks for your help.
lou2ser said:
The GMS and OS versions were recorded before any update was done. As of right now the phone does nothing whatsoever. I just want to make sure there's not a magic button the technician can push to see my tampering.
Again, thanks for your help.
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wee.this you know yourself that they are the manufacturers,technicians and have all the gadgets,knowledge and means to find out.lol
why don't you atleast try the 'Force bootloader' once,let's check it out.huh !
Try this.First fully charge the battery,somehow,even you can do this by your friend's phone than try to force your phone into boot loader mode.Power off the phone completely,not stand-by but completely power off,and take out the battery for about one minute and insert it again.....Hold down the camera button and while keeping it holding down push down the power on button,as normally you power on the phone,The phone will start up,keep holding down the camera button till your phone gets into bootloader mode(multicolor screen),if it goes into bootloader mode,that means it's not "Bricked"
First of all i do not know where to post this. I have had a HTC wizard for over a year now. it has been working fine after cooking up wm6 and installing it for 6 months. today when i restartet the phone pulling the battery out and inserting it, the phone starts up, then the blue screen comes and shows ispl etc, then windows image shows, there it stops. i do not know what to do. It has been a while since i did pocket pc modding now, and i have forgotten all about it.
Alexander, [email protected]
Maybe something crashed the OS software.
Hope you have a system backup, or at least PIM backup using ActiveSync because what you need now is a hard reset.
Punching the reset hole (next to IR window) while holding CommManager+VoiceDial, then press "Dial" as prompted.
how do i hard reset my dash/s620?
i have tried hard reset
i have hard reset the phone. i do not have any backup in active sync. and i dont think that matters. because my phone does not connect to activesync since it does not start up. and in the three colored boot mode the phone is not detected by active sync. when i hard reset the phone it just came to the same point and freezed
If you didn't touch the ROM for long time, then it is probably a hardware failure...
lovemy318 said:
how do i hard reset my dash/s620?
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READ YOUR PHONE MANUAL, and THIS IS NOT DASH FORUM.
hard to believe
First off, thanks for fast responses.
It cant be hardware(Not as a total theory of course) or likely not, because phone was not touched by water, shock, bumb fire or anything. it laid on my desk, worked, laid on my dask more, freezed. and it has been working for 6 months with wm6. is there anyway i can flash something into it. without activesync, but in the three colored boot mode?
Get into bootloader, plug in your usb cord and give it a minute...ON THE TRI-COLORED SCREEN do you see in the bottom corner "USB"??? If yes, you are OK. Get a stock rom such as the Tmo 2.26 and flash that. If you do not see "USB" in the bottom corner then as far as I know, you are fukd.
For more info on issues, read the linky in my siggy. There is valuable info there that may help with other ways to flash a rom.
Good luck.
i see usb
thanks, guess i am not fked then
Only problem is i have forgotten all about this now, and that i am sorry for.
But i have to ask you, as from norway wich stock rom to choose, what is stock rom, and when you say bootloader, is that an expression for the three colored screen or is that a program, that can flash in three colored screen? Thanks, i do not expect an answer on this noob questions, but i would really apreciate answers.
stock rom & bootloader
stock rom is the rom which comes with ur phone while purchasing it.. u can call it base rom..bootloader is tri-coloured screen which is bios for ppc if it gets fked then phone is bricked..next time if u cant boot up, then u can flash ur phone with the help of bootloader...
that was fast
thanks, but i do not think i have the rom that came with my mobile phone:/
and i do not know how to flash from tri colored screen, because all the files i have tried cant detect my phone.
ipl adn spl are 3.08 if that helps anything.
that was fast
is there an app you use to flash from tri colored
there is no need for any app, just connect ur phone to tri-coloured screen..u willl see usb in down left corner.. then ur phone is connected then run RUU utility.. if any problem comes i am online at hotmail... [email protected]
Can you power down? If not, remove battery for 1 seconds, the re-insert. Then press all at once the camera, comm and power buttons (or I believe you can also press the camera and soft reset. It is in the wiki explaining, as are some stock roms. Use any stock rom if you plan on flashing a cooked rom. The Tmo 2.26 is a decent stock rom, there is a 3.08 on the forum somewhere that you can also use. Get a stock rom. Get into the tri-colored bootloader. Look to see if it says usb in the bottom corner. If yes, connect your cable and using the ruu from the stock rom, flash your phone. Once a stock rom is installed follow the directions to cid/sim unlock your phone. Once unlocked, you can flash any cooked rom.
PS- I am assuming you have a G3 phone.
PPS- reading the wiki and the stickies are very helpful. Give them a try.
im sutch a noob
yeh i got same problem... i will try a hard reset but im at school... hope it fixes it... i got imate jasjam... BETTER WORK OR I WILL KILL MY BROTHER 4 STUFFING AROUND WITH MY PHONE
im sutch a noob
gah... it diddent work what do i do now????
I've got a weird one. Yesterday, my phone was running fine (I've had Dutty's rom on it for about 4months), I lost sound and needed a reboot. I rebooted and immediately got the RGBW bootloader screen. Successive reboots gave me this. I removed my flash card and tried again - was able to get in the O.S. but I still had no sound, so I rebooted again. Now I can't seem to get past the bootloader.
I'm probably going to try a reflash of the ROM, but I'm curious if there is another option since I'd rather not lose my data.
Any thoughts?
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Bootloader screen says:
"KAIS1*0 MFG
SPL-1.0.OliPof
CPLD-8"
Bottom says: "Serial"
dude i am sorry to inform you but without an os back up is impossible
*just a thought - try removing SC Card and Sim Card and Remove Battery for some time then put everything back and try.. but most likely.. dont put lots of hope on this..
KyleK29 said:
I've got a weird one. Yesterday, my phone was running fine (I've had Dutty's rom on it for about 4months), I lost sound and needed a reboot. I rebooted and immediately got the RGBW bootloader screen. Successive reboots gave me this. I removed my flash card and tried again - was able to get in the O.S. but I still had no sound, so I rebooted again. Now I can't seem to get past the bootloader.
I'm probably going to try a reflash of the ROM, but I'm curious if there is another option since I'd rather not lose my data.
Any thoughts?
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Bootloader screen says:
"KAIS1*0 MFG
SPL-1.0.OliPof
CPLD-8"
Bottom says: "Serial"
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jahrami said:
dude i am sorry to inform you but without an os back up is impossible
*just a thought - try removing SC Card and Sim Card and Remove Battery for some time then put everything back and try.. but most likely.. dont put lots of hope on this..
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Well, it's not a total loss. I have a backup of my settings from about 3 months ago and all my PIM data from 2 nights ago. I was just hoping to be able to recover most of it.
Thanks for the idea though, no luck. Here's hoping the new flash will work!
So I added the newest version of Dutty's - phone took it fine. I installed some apps, rebooted multiple times, worked for like 30minutes. Rebooted after installing one of the apps asked me to, and BLAM .. bootloader.
Would it be reasonable to assume that the ROM in this thing might be hosed?
Interesting I had the EXACT same issue yesterday with a the Default ATT ROM.. I was going to try Duttys since Its already wiped
Ransom342 said:
Interesting I had the EXACT same issue yesterday with a the Default ATT ROM.. I was going to try Duttys since Its already wiped
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Yeah, mine seems to be fubar'd. I tried flashing Dutty's ROM again, it took the flash, rebooted, and immediately gave me the bootloader again with a blank image.
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Tried again with a different ROM. It got to the loading screen for the OS, as soon as I rebooted it went back to the bootloader with a blank OS.
Looks like my ROM is fubared. I think my warranty is up, or coming up very soon. Does HardSPL void it? Because I'd assume that is the only thing they can tell was done.
of course hard spl will void ur warranty but if u can revert to orgininal spl
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=335568
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Does HardSPL void it? Because I'd assume that is the only thing they can tell was done.
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Same issue - Semi Fix
Hi Kyle,
I started having the same exact problem three weeks ago (it is now Sep.18.2008). I've got no sound coming from my phone, and when I reboot I get the bootloader screen.
my FIX: Plug the phone into it's usb cable, and have it plugged into a source (computer, power jack, etc).
When I reset my phone with it plugged into the usb cable, it finds the rom and loads up perfectly. But when I reset without it, I get the bootloader. I still have not figured out why it is doing this. CAVEAT: this only works with my usb cable plugged into the power outlet of MY CAR. I know...it's weird...but that's what's working for me. When plugged into the computer I still only get the bootloader - it works in the car only. But I suggest you try your car, computer, and a wall outlet if you have one for usb and see what works for you. I find that I rarely reset my phone anyway, but it's just annoying when I do.
I hope this message hasn't found you too late :S Cheers
May anyone can help me ?
Kaiser 100 (TILT 8925) during Flashing, the battery was discharged. Now it does not join, the green light diode only burns at power ON attempt.
The computer defines it on USB as Flash device, but the driver from ActiveSynch do not approach.
How to restore it ?
What buttons for input in Flash mode (tricolor) ?
BR !
Ok, so today I tried to flash my Rom with the official att 6.1 rom from HTC. I got it to finally start flashing after about ten tries but when it reached about 13% it gave me an error 276 I think. I tried the recovery method suggested by removing the battery for 3 seconds and reseting the device but now my device isn't recognized in windows and I can't run the upgrade file anymore.
It just goes to the bootloader screen with "KAIS1*0" on the top, then "SPL-3.02.000" below that, and "CPLD-8" below that. At the very bottom it shows USB but my computer doesn't recognize the device. I've tried hard reseting it and it just goes back to the bootloader screen.
Is there any way I can get my Kaiser back or am I screwed?? All this waiting for 6.1 and now my phone is dead. What a load of crap.
Just re start the ruu and let it sit for a minute when that happens, it will start again by itself. Almost shat myself when it happened to me.
First of all, relax. Your phone is not bricked. Do a little looking around the forums and you will resolve this.
I am too lazy to search for him but is the 3.02 SPL compatible with the 6.1 ROM?
I can't restart the Ruu because I can't get a usb connection to my phone. The bootloader goes into usb mode but my computer does not see the phone. The Ruu says it cannot detect the phone either.
Isn't there a way this guy can re-flash using a MicroSD card?
MineralGray02K said:
Isn't there a way this guy can re-flash using a MicroSD card?
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I'm not sure if the OEM SPL has the ability to flash from card like the Hard SPLs.
To test put the Carrier ROM (Download from the Wiki) on to the root of the MicroSD Card and call it KAISIMG.NBH. Turn on the Phone with the Camera Button Held Down. It should try and flash the ROM then. If that doesn't work, I have a thread and wiki page all about getting stuck on the bootloader, check my Sig for more info.
Hope this helps.
Dave
rodavery said:
Ok, so today I tried to flash my Rom with the official att 6.1 rom from HTC. I got it to finally start flashing after about ten tries but when it reached about 13% it gave me an error 276 I think. I tried the recovery method suggested by removing the battery for 3 seconds and reseting the device but now my device isn't recognized in windows and I can't run the upgrade file anymore.
It just goes to the bootloader screen with "KAIS1*0" on the top, then "SPL-3.02.000" below that, and "CPLD-8" below that. At the very bottom it shows USB but my computer doesn't recognize the device. I've tried hard reseting it and it just goes back to the bootloader screen.
Is there any way I can get my Kaiser back or am I screwed?? All this waiting for 6.1 and now my phone is dead. What a load of crap.
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run this while phone is hooked up to computer stuck in bootloader.
Sweet Jesus
Ok, I tried the tri-color fix from nufsaid. It didn't work b/c it couldn't open a usb port or didn't see the phone or something. Then I tried putting the rom on my microSD card.
And *SHAZAM* there it was. DaveShaw you are a god to me now. It said the update was successful but I'm still stuck in the bootloader. It used to work if I would plug it into the wasll charger and reset it but that isn't working now. My computer still doesn't recognize it so Mtty or anything still doesn't work.
Ok, I left my tilt on the tri-color screen all night long to run down the battery. When I woke up I tried to power it on and I got the familiar ATT flash screen but when I plugged it into the AC power it went straight into the bootloader.
I don't know what's worse, bootloader or red light of death, I just experienced the red light, called att and got a new phone sent out in 12 hours! What SPL does your phone show? they might exchange if it's not 'voided'
ok, I finally got it to load the windows. If the battery has a high charge or is charging resetting won't get out of the bootloader. If I let the battery run down to almost nothing, wait a little while with it out, then try it again it will turn on. my spl is now 3.56.0000.
Finally
I finally got it out of the bootloader. I'm never going to reset my phone again. It's gonna suck if it freezes. Thanks for all the help.
rodavery said:
I finally got it out of the bootloader. I'm never going to reset my phone again. It's gonna suck if it freezes. Thanks for all the help.
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Glad your back up and running. There are two new hard SPL's be cmonex (they are mentioned in the link in my sig) that make it less likley for you to get stuck at the bootloader. You could try those?
Ta
Dave
this morning, I restarted my x1 because it was awfully slow this morning. so after I restarted it, it stayed at the sony ericsson splash screen for long time and didn't do anything. I tried to reinstall the rom through SD and it didn't work. Then I hardspl-ed it and tried to reinstall one of my old kovsimg.nbh in it, then now....it won't even turn on!!!
Did I brick my x1??? HOW IN THE WORLD CAN I FIX IT?
my battery is fully charged btw. PLEASE HELP. THIS IS URGENT!!!!!!
I've checked on different forum guides on here and none of which seem to be having what I am looking for.
UPDATE: i just plugged in my phone to the computer and then it popped out a notice on my computer saying that the device is not recognized. "the device is malfunctioned and does not recognize it."
@[email protected]" so what am I to do? do I return it to the store and get them to fix it or is it better just to give it up?
Have you tried a hard reset?
I have, but still no reaction...
I am guessing the x1 is still safe in a sense since the red light is still on.
Can you put it in booloader mode? If so, what version of the spl do you have?
the Phone won't even turn on. no possible way to get into bootloader. when you say spl as in hardspl and also softspl. i'm not quite sure. i just found it on this forum in the latest forum updates.
asian_boi said:
the Phone won't even turn on. no possible way to get into bootloader. when you say spl as in hardspl and also softspl. i'm not quite sure. i just found it on this forum in the latest forum updates.
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Have you tried taking the battery out for ten seconds, put the battery back in, then hold the power and volume down keys until you see the tri color screen. Does this work?
yes. I've done that.
the phone still can't be turned on.
need help too
i just tried to Hard SPL my phone, and now i'm on the bootloader screen
showing KOVS110
SPL-0.72.OliNex
Micro P1 -787
Micro P2 -707
and it says continue to upgrade ROM please wait. i've been waiting for for a long time. it stucked there. i take off the battery for few second and put it back it shows the same screen again. And i need to use MTTY to boot it to get into window mobile. i was trying to Hard SPL the NEW ORIGINAL X1 ROMS INCLUDING R3xxxxx update 1.10.2009. and i can't upgrade it. everytime i restart my phone it goes back to the bootloader screen and freezed there. then i need to use MTTY to boot it and bring it alive again. can anyone help me out with this? pls