Why to upgrade to WM6 - 8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading

Hi, ALL
I have G3 T-Mobile MDA (Wizard), running Wm5 custom ROM from Xelencin and latest Radio ROM.
Also I have installed
SPB Diary, Pocket Plus, Weather, Imageer, Backup
Resco File Explorer
PhotoDialer Plug-in
WM5Storage
MemMaid
Some RSS Reader
iGuidance
MS VoiceCommand 1.5
IMPlus, Skype
Yahoo 2 Go, Google Maps, Live Search
TCPMP
etc
most of these on 2GB miniSD. Everything works. I use most of that from time to time.
I saw faria WM6 ROM. I saw MB Rom, I saw Mun's Rom. My question is - do I need to upgrade to WM6 ? Will it add something, which probably I'm missing ?
Or it is just to have latest Windows Mobile OS ?
Second big question - will my apps work with WM6 ?

Also if moderators think this question belongs to Wizard Mobile 6 forum, can you please move it

bogdatov said:
I saw faria WM6 ROM. I saw MB Rom, I saw Mun's Rom. My question is - do I need to upgrade to WM6 ? Will it add something, which probably I'm missing ?
Or it is just to have latest Windows Mobile OS ?
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Do you need to upgrade? Probably not. I will say that most (not all) of the custom roms will give you more space and will run faster than the stock official roms.
Will add something, which you are probably missing? The quick answer is yes. You are missing the frustration that some of us go through with these . Seriously though, its hard to answer it, but for me I find the custom roms more stable than my original Cingular 2.25, faster, gives me more room on the phone itself, and just more fun to play with (but then I'm a geek).
I can't honestly say why the draw to WM6 other than the geek factor involved and the ability to show friends and coworkers that you are running WM6 (and they don't care anyone or don't even know what you are babbling on about).
I would suggest you at least give Faria's or Molksi's 2.3 and 3.3 ROMs a try even if you aren't interested in WM6. They are VERY nice and stable. But also, understand that you will have to fiddle and tweak with your phone for a day or two to get it back to where you want it.
Second big question - will my apps work with WM6 ?
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I've used Spb Backup, Resco Explorer, WM5torage, Memmaid, MS VoiceCommand 1.6 all on Faria's AKU 3.3, WM6 MBE, and Faria's WM6 "the real thing" and they all work.
I'll defer to others on the rest of your list.

I know you didn't list it but, as you are using other spb products,
spb time doesn't fully work

How did you get Yahoo go 2?

double post

I received email with Yahoo go 2 and there was a link. Just went there and install. Dont remember exactly, but something like that

It's only available for smartphones... You don't happen to have a link/file handy? :d

Yahoo Go 2 for smartphones and pocket pc phones:
This is where I got mines from, they had it as an option when it first came out but now it is hidden and they want your phone information to send it to you.
This link will get you the cab. file and the active sync download.
http://sites.mobile.yahoo.com/go/mobile/getstarted

That link is Yahoo Go 1, which I am running right now.

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Suggestions wanted for when I cook a new Rom

When AKU3.2 gets stable I will make a new Rom, or maybe there will be some adjustments to my 2.26.10.2 Roms if someone discovers something really cool like reducing the PagePool for more free Ram.
But for now, I would like to know what you people think what programs are missing in my Roms.
I DO NOT add programs to it that are used only by some people, I would only like to add programs that are used by almost everyone in the community!
For now, I am thinking of adding the following programs:
For sure:
- .NET Compact Framework 2 (although it requires about 5MB on Main Memory)
- Signed_CameraPatch_ov9650.sa.cab (definitely better then the standard camera driver!)
- MMS Folder CAB file
- 2.47.11 Radio Rom (a lot of people say that this Radio Rom performs better then the Cingular 2.25.11 Radio Rom, read the thread about this Radio Rom here)
Maybe:
- SMSDRFix (SMS Delivery Report Fix), because I use it A LOT (and you all know...until know I build my Roms the way I like them the most!)
- Intent Midlet Manager (although I do not use it myself!)
- PPCContactsMgr 1.2 (for selecting multiple contacts, on my existing Roms there is also a plug-in for "Save as First/Last Name", so also this one looks useful to me)
- Null Keyboard (avoids keyboard pop-up, if you don't use it you also will never notice it, it's not a program, just an option for your keyboard settings)
- SipChange (to set a default keyboard)
What do you guys think?
Regards,
Molski
how about including the cab file that adds mms folder as well?
MMS is generally pretty carrier specific. That might be problematic give that Molski's ROMs are carrier agnostic.
well, the one from molski.biz just gives a generic sample server settings, i think if we can manage to unlock our CID, i wouldn't be so difficult to alter the mms server settings =)
thanks for listening=)
is there any flash player?!? if positive that's a good stuff to be added...
jubanet said:
is there any flash player?!? if positive that's a good stuff to be added...
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I never use Flash, so I am not putting that in my Roms
Molski
baarod said:
MMS is generally pretty carrier specific. That might be problematic give that Molski's ROMs are carrier agnostic.
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The MMS folder installation has nothing to do with MMS settings, you still need to install (or add manually) specific settings for your provider.
This is a good one, I will add it to the list of apps.
Molski
What about WM5torage? That way there's no need for Activesync or looking for a miniSD to SD adapter and a card reader...
At least I use that program a lot... Don't know how useful it is for other people...
yellowdragon said:
What about WM5torage? That way there's no need for Activesync or looking for a miniSD to SD adapter and a card reader...
At least I use that program a lot... Don't know how useful it is for other people...
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In fact I use WM5torage a lot also, but I developed a little CAB for WM5torage and DeviceLock mapped to the VoiceDial button, because that's the way I use it. The file is available on www.molski.biz, I will copy and paste some info of the cab file here:
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This program installs the full versions of WM5torage 1.60 and DeviceLock,
including shortcuts for both programs and the DeviceLock Control Panel.
It remaps DeviceLock to hardware button 4, the VoiceDial button (single press).
It remaps WM5torage to hardware button 4, the VoiceDial button (long press/hold).
I made this program because I never use the VoiceDial or Record functions of the button, but I often use DeviceLock (and hate it to have it as an item on the Today Screen) and WM5torage and wanted some quick shortcuts to it (but not on the Today Screen...).
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Regards,
Molski
p.s. So I don't think I will put it in my Roms, simply because I would wreck my own installation and have to use a work around myself for WM5torage, so sorry.
How about overclocking, I can't imagine using it as is.
thompsd said:
How about overclocking, I can't imagine using it as is.
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Then I will add BatteryStatus, because that is what I use to run my Wizard @240Mhz.
Molski
Hi Molsi,
What I would like is a complete *clean* rom as if it came out of the HTC or QTek departments. Might there be a version like that too? Ah, asjeblieft...?
Many thank for you work so far, keep up the good work!
Cheers,
Cacti
pls dnt add OC apps in the ROM,bec some of us use omapclock plus,better to have our own choice of choosing,better put it in the EXT_rom so that incase they dnt like it,they can easily erase it. also if you can add TALKING ALARM,this way better, shouting what's the time already, and SMARTKEY too(oh! i forgot,this already putted in the ROM 2.26.102.
so when can we XPECT the AKU 3? hehehe
Molski first of all thanks for the hard work and great support.
I don't think that you must put any software on the rom.
Everybody has there own "need".
If people want software on it they download it.
The power of the rom is the speed, so please keep it that way.
Thanks (bedankt)
You got a good point there!
Maybe I just will create an "extra" Extended Rom with a few apps in it that are must-have. It's no big deal of flashing an new Extended Rom after a Rom upgrade onto your device
But I am sure that I will add 3 new cab files to my new Roms...the 3 cabs listed in the 1st post (and also maybe smsdrfix, cause I also always deliver my Roms with SMS Notification on and for that little setting smsdrfix is a must-have app ).
ArtXT said:
pls dnt add OC apps in the ROM,bec some of us use omapclock plus,better to have our own choice of choosing,better put it in the EXT_rom so that incase they dnt like it,they can easily erase it. also if you can add TALKING ALARM,this way better, shouting what's the time already, and SMARTKEY too(oh! i forgot,this already putted in the ROM 2.26.102.
so when can we XPECT the AKU 3? hehehe
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You're right...I don't add overclocking because some people do not use it and if they use it there are several ways to do it, so people have to just install this manually.
Talking Alarm is not so useful for me, I am dutch and I doubt that Talking Alarm says the time in dutch
And in the morning I am too sleepy to understand english
When I am starting to read things about a stable and 100% working AKU3.2 Rom (on every AKU3.2 Rom I tested my WiFi does not connect to my router with WPA-PSK/TKIP) I will take my hands on it
Molski
Molski
when will we see real 3.2 AKUs for wizard? As far as I know, the 3.2 roms here are actually 2.26 roms with 3.2 features grafted in...
vseehua said:
when will we see real 3.2 AKUs for wizard? As far as I know, the 3.2 roms here are actually 2.26 roms with 3.2 features grafted in...
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Yeah...you are right...I think we just will have to wait until T-Mobile or Cingular releases an AKU3.2 Rom (without bugs...).
Molski
Add Total Commander. That's all I can think of... I hate when ROMs come with lots of stuff.
My must haves are as follows.
1 Smartskey
2 Total Comander
3 WM NewMenu

WM6 on G4 (looking for some applications).

I had the AKU 3.3 rom on my device and used that one as the base to upgrade to the WM6 rom fully however in doing that I lost a lot of the useful apps cooked into the rom.
I'm looking for some if not all the apps that are available on the AKU 3.3 rom for my G4
the quick dials on the today screen is a must really need that but I can't find out what application that is etc.
i've searched around all over but I've not been able to find a few of the apps that are on the AKU rom so I can get them on my WM6 rom now. Anyone got any links they can post up for the following.
Mobile Secretary
New Menu For WM5
Contacts Backup
New SIM Manager
Ringtone manager
Contacts Manager
SMS Backup
Screen Rotate
I can confirm today agenda BORKS WM6 really screws it up.
Ok i've had a few PMs with regards to how I got WM6 working on the G4. Rather than sending them same PM over and over heres what i did.
I paid the £20 to get the software to super CID unlock my G4.
http://www.imei-check.co.uk/ its quick you'll get it in a matter of minutes and it takes about 5 mins to do it , but its a bit steap non the less.
I then upgraded to the most excellent AKU 3.3 ROM
the link below takes you to the version that WILL install on the G4 its just all in italian but you can work it out . As long as your super cid unlocked your laughing!
ftp://xda:[email protected]/Uploads/Wizard/Roms/WM5_AKU3.3_Crossbow_BETA_G4.zip
at this stage when you've run the installer you'll have the WM5 AKU 3.3 Rom running. You can stop here if you want its a great rom lots of features including alot of the crossbow features.
However if your pushing to show off your phat phone skills obtain the WM6 Crossbow rom if you can find it and install it.
It should now go on with no problems! No complaints about wrong versions etc it'll just do it. It'll take you 10 mins to install just like WM5 AKU3.3 does.
When your device reboots your WM6.0! However you'll have to find all the useful apps for your PDA again. Unlike AKU3.3 your device is vanilla so off you go to find everything thats useful.
Claunch works mint as I'm using it again in anger on my device!

Which WM6 are you using and Why?

Theres like 6 threads with like 50 pages each...and i've read almost all of them....but my question is which WM6 of crossbow are you using? So far i know theres
1. Chinese version
2. Stock leaked one
3. PDAViet 1
4. PDAViet 2
Which ones are you guys using and why? THanks for the responds guys
None, they're buggy, obviously unfinished and of dubious origin.
im using pv2...it has nice little addons to it, and it seems to be smoother...
markgamber said:
None, they're buggy, obviously unfinished and of dubious origin.
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But that's what makes them so FUN!
i totally agree with you guys. Thats what makes these roms fun. i just got tired of trying to decide which rom to mess with and all that fun crap. i just wanted to see what fellow modders were doing with their roms and what they learned and what they have accomplished. i see that on PDAViet 2 for some reason my screen keeps turning on. and sometimes my softkeys wont work. does any one by anychance have a solution to thi stuff? Thanks
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None, they're buggy, obviously unfinished and of dubious origin.
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Agreed.
I tried them out, but they were pretty buggy and impossible to make everything run as smoothly as WM5.
I need stability and a smooth running PPC. Not some glitchy buggy unreliable WM6.
Plus WM6 adds zero true improvements. There is just no reason to use these pre-release versions.
I hope they get WM6 fixed up correctly before actually releasing it to the public or WM6 is going to suffer a horrible fate.
Need another option: My own cooked version
I cooked up my own version, modeling it after Risidoro and Molski's, adding all the cool TSK files, camera themes, ringtones, Ris' network tools, Adobe Acrobat LE. mbutton in ROM and in startup, Total Commander in ROM, enabling the ZIP tool, added traylaunch and battery status and adding in the faria camera fix.
This is exactly what I was looking for. Thanks to Risidoro, Molski and Faria for the great tutorials. I spent hours working on this to get it working just like I want it.
Rom stats, from a fresh boot with mbutton and activesync running:
Storage:
Total: 47.46mb
In use: 10.87 mb
Free: 36.60 mb
Program:
Total: 49.70 mb
In user: 22.96 mb
Free: 26.72 mb
wow thats awesome bro! is your cooked rom a WM6?
deviusdragger said:
wow thats awesome bro! is your cooked rom a WM6?
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Yes. Sorry. It is the Orwell, I guess, one.
I just read about editing the HV files, so now my little cab file that I run afterward to add in MMS, GPRS, etc, will be integrated into the ROM directly, along with Midlet Manager, TRE and whatever else I can inject into it.
yeah i had to put all my internet and gprs settings my self from my other 8125. so far i like the way it looks and its running pretty good now that i took some stuff off the start up folder like tray launch and smartskey. dont really need them. i have pocketplus running just fine on there just like batterystatus and today plugin.
nightowl007 said:
Yes. Sorry. It is the Orwell, I guess, one.
I just read about editing the HV files, so now my little cab file that I run afterward to add in MMS, GPRS, etc, will be integrated into the ROM directly, along with Midlet Manager, TRE and whatever else I can inject into it.
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Can you share some experience about editing HV files? I can't find any sources for it. Thanks.
Well. Let me first say this.
Apparently what PDAViet has done to Faria's hard word and effort can simply not be justified imho.
To be honest I have PDA Viet2 installed. But that was before I read what they did with Faria's hard work. And I simply don't have time now to switch to another WM6 rom, otherwise I'd installed Faria's latest and greatest Rom 3.3.
Nevertheless I must say that the PDA Viet2 rom works fine on my MDA. Even my 4gb minisd works flawlessly (although i'm still looking for some tweaks to improve read/write performance with it). They also put some security to it with removing the windows update option (which apparently causes trouble to some users).
But, to stay loyal to Faria, just because that man really does great work, whenever there's another rom (a better one/more complete one) and I have some more time, I immediately switch to another rom.
I love WM6, on my device it runs so much more smoother than WM5 did, and after running the MMS cab patch, i'm fully sorted. All of my software work on it perfectly, it's extremely fast (i haven't even had to over clock it like i used to do at 240mhz).
I now want to really get into understanding how to tweak and create my own Roms.
Nightowl007 WM6 ROM
nightowl007 said:
Need another option: My own cooked version
I cooked up my own version, modeling it after Risidoro and Molski's, adding all the cool TSK files, camera themes, ringtones, Ris' network tools, Adobe Acrobat LE. mbutton in ROM and in startup, Total Commander in ROM, enabling the ZIP tool, added traylaunch and battery status and adding in the faria camera fix.
This is exactly what I was looking for. Thanks to Risidoro, Molski and Faria for the great tutorials. I spent hours working on this to get it working just like I want it.
Rom stats, from a fresh boot with mbutton and activesync running:
Storage:
Total: 47.46mb
In use: 10.87 mb
Free: 36.60 mb
Program:
Total: 49.70 mb
In user: 22.96 mb
Free: 26.72 mb
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Release! Release! Release!
(...please?)
how did u do the mms cab patch. where did u get it from
hustle said:
how did u do the mms cab patch. where did u get it from
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read the forum
the one from here didnt work for me im on tmobile. i put in the settings n still nothing
i have mms arcsoft 3.0.9 something something.
what steps did u to make yours work
ARCSoft Inc MMS Composer 3.0.7.19.cab
i used that one
Files names
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Theres like 6 threads with like 50 pages each...and i've read almost all of them....but my question is which WM6 of crossbow are you using? So far i know theres
1. Chinese version
2. Stock leaked one
3. PDAViet 1
4. PDAViet 2
Which ones are you guys using and why? THanks for the responds guys
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I think we could get better results if people knoew how to identify which WM 6 rom they have.
I have orwell
the other day I downloaded 1.Crossbow_Underground_Edition.exe but I am not certain if this is updated
WM6 Upgrade on Wizard
Hey Guys I ran the WM6 orwell update and it did its thing, but when it rebooted it was still WM5 (blank no user data) do I have to do anything special after I disconnest?

cabs for WM6.0 OK for 6.1?

I've finally decided to move up to WM6.1 on my TyTN II.
My question is, would the cab files I currently have installed on my unit (with WM6.0) still work once I upgrade to 6.1?
The most important programs I want re-installed are primarily the TouchFLO upgrades (TouchFLO cube, Random Access, Task Manager etc) and the media upgrades (HTC Album and Camera; TCPMP).
Also, am I right in assuming all the standard programs that were installed in my phone when it was new (Mobile Office, WMP, Adobe Reader, etc) will also be in the 6.1 installation pack? I'll be using the WM6.1 I downloaded from the HTC e-Club site.
'appreciate inputs
TIA
My question is, would the cab files I currently have installed on my unit (with WM6.0) still work once I upgrade to 6.1?
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Not sure, but probably most of the yes, it was the case when I did it. You would need to reinstall these cabs because programs can't be correctly restored when doing a ROM upgrade, even with programs like Sprite Backup.
The most important programs I want re-installed are primarily the TouchFLO upgrades (TouchFLO cube, Random Access, Task Manager etc) and the media upgrades (HTC Album and Camera; TCPMP).
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Task Manager, HTC Album and Camera are included. I am not using the others. If you do a search on the forum and to be sure, you will probably find these programs updated and also in 6.1 cooked ROMs.
Also, am I right in assuming all the standard programs that were installed in my phone when it was new (Mobile Office, WMP, Adobe Reader, etc) will also be in the 6.1 installation pack? I'll be using the WM6.1 I downloaded from the HTC e-Club site.
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Yes, in some cases updated versions will be installed plus a few improvements that you can find here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=375979 and by searching. I didn't miss any previous WM 6.0 programs after the upgrade.
I strongly recommend a full backup before upgrading.
I hope you don't use GPS then
rigelstuff said:
I've finally decided to move up to WM6.1 on my TyTN II.
My question is, would the cab files I currently have installed on my unit (with WM6.0) still work once I upgrade to 6.1?
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I don't use any of those cabs but some of them seem to have WM 6.1 compatible versions from searching here. You do realise that many people have had issues with GPS performance since upgrading to WM 6.1 from 6.0. Personally I wish I'd held off until HTC had really sorted these problems out (they still haven't) but now I've done it there's no going back (unless I want to send the phone back to HTC for them to flash it to the original configuration or risk voiding the warranty if I do it myself).
Also, am I right in assuming all the standard programs that were installed in my phone when it was new (Mobile Office, WMP, Adobe Reader, etc) will also be in the 6.1 installation pack? I'll be using the WM6.1 I downloaded from the HTC e-Club site.
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Thats where I got mine from and yes those programs are still there, as mentioned already, some are improved.
Further to the suggestion anoano made about backing up, make sure your backup software is up to date enough to be able to restore the files you need to a newer OS. Some older versions have problems with restoring to a different OS than that used to create the backup. Check the backup software makers website if in doubt.
most cabs are universal among WM5,6 and 6.1. if they weren't then the description,filename or faq would mention if it was only for a certain version of WM
Thanks guys. This forum is the best!
Flying Kiwi, you're now two for two with me I wouldn't have known about the GPS issue if not for this forum. What GPS performance issues do you mean? I don't really use the GPS, but it would be a bummer to eventually need it, and for it not to work. I mean, I did pay for the hardware right? Any signs of HTC working this out?
gps works but it can be slow at times whether starting up,talking with satellites, etc. most of the gps issues are either applications issues or the radio
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Flying Kiwi, you're now two for two with me
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Not sure what that means, sounds like a supermarket special offer gone wrong
I wouldn't have known about the GPS issue if not for this forum. What GPS performance issues do you mean?
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The ones that are also detailed in this forum, both in this thread *Hopeless* GPS after 6.1 Update? and elsewhere. This thread covers it quite well (apart from the reference to quick GPS being the culprit even though a radio change makes a big difference).
I don't really use the GPS, but it would be a bummer to eventually need it, and for it not to work. I mean, I did pay for the hardware right? Any signs of HTC working this out?
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I think the first step is to get them to even acknowledge it as an issue. Let us know what HTC say to you about it (or the carrier if it's a carrier provided device). Just mention exactly what you've told us here that you're considering using the WM 6.1 update but that you have read online about major problems with GPS performance afterwards.
good work with this post; very helpful.
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Not sure what that means, sounds like a supermarket special offer gone wrong
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Sorry, must've said that wrong
What I meant was, that's my second post that you answered
I'll check out that post you mentioned and will contact HTC as well.
Much thanks!

What ROM should I use?

Hi.
I've just SIM and CID unlocked my HTC Herald P4350 and now I've got the WM6 from the HardSPL method.
I've already seen other OS's like TouchIT and I liked it very much but since there a lot of them I'd like to know which one I should use or how do I choose the best ROM to flash my PDA.
Peace.
That's a thing only you know!
Do you want to use Manila2D? with Opera full? => OpenTouch 7.7 Biggy
Clean ROM? => Just2Clean
very clean ROM, but with some individual Programs like Opera Mini => JustME
Do you want an Opal Clone? => Try Gullums one
Do you want a clean ROM where you can install Manila on top => Open Touch 7.7 lite
you see, there are a lot of things to think about!
Give us some information what you use your Herlad for and we can help you better I think!
ruebyi
So, I'm 21 years old and what I'm looking in a PDA is that it works like a media center, a workstation and a GPS.
I may need to use to load some PowerPoint presentations. But more importantly I want all of this but with the most atractive look and lots of gadgets and informations on the "today" screen. i also want to play some games, see movies, listen to music, etc.
jncunha said:
So, I'm 21 years old and what I'm looking in a PDA is that it works like a media center, a workstation and a GPS.
I may need to use to load some PowerPoint presentations. But more importantly I want all of this but with the most atractive look and lots of gadgets and informations on the "today" screen. i also want to play some games, see movies, listen to music, etc.
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you could also look at the OPT that ttran made with the omnia theme... no power point but you can download mobile office anyhoo.
- Good luck mate
Well if you want to have something to play around with, you should perhaps use OpenTouch 7.7 biggy!
Manila 2D
Opera Full
Youtube
etc.
You only would have to install office (perhaps on storage card?!)
ruebyi
How about TouchIt WM6.1 Full?
And can you please link me those ROM's mentioned?
Open Touch 7.x ROMs
I only suggested ROMs I tested! I never used a touchIT, but if you like it, try it!
ruebyi
I can't find any of the download links in either of the ROM's... Neither TouchIT or Oper Touch.
http://www.evolvers.net/Herald_Roms/Version%207.7/
What about the TouchIT last version for the P4350? Can't find it either :x.
I'm still a bit confused by the amount of ROM's that exist and a question is still on my mind, does the ROM's for the Wing work on my normal HTC P4350? Because I've read somewhere that the Wing was the name given to the T-Mobile version and that it uses different ROM's.
Can anyone help me with this?

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