Hey guys,
I'm guessing that a full sized usb drive ( with external power supply ) would work no bother with the Ameo, do you knwo if one of the iPod sized external drives would work? ( would it be ok with with power drain )
thanks heaps
grunef said:
Hey guys,
I'm guessing that a full sized usb drive ( with external power supply ) would work no bother with the Ameo, do you knwo if one of the iPod sized external drives would work? ( would it be ok with with power drain )
thanks heaps
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Hello,
I got a Freecom 1.8" 40GB external HDD to work, over an external powered hub.
But my old Ipod 1.8" 40GB HDD in an ICY case didn't seem to work at all.
Also with some different 2.5" HDDs I've had no success until now, neither with self-powered, nor with external powered devices.
3.5" drives I haven't testet at all - I'd like to use external devices in vacancies, so 3.5" is to big for me and requires 2 different voltages (5V and 12V) requiring an external power supply while the others requires only 5V which I can supply with my external 5V battery from Ansmann 3200 mAH (USB connectors as inlet and outlet).
May be it depends on the build-in controller of the external HDDs too.
But as the Hitachi drive in the Freecom case has an other connector than the Toshiba drive of the IPod I can't test it at all.
Hope it helps quite a little bit.
Greets
Burkhardt
Not all working...
Lets start list things that works...
Thanks.
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1. 1.8" 40GB external HDD
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Do you think there will ever be a storage solution for the diamond? For example an adaptor that plugs into the USB input that allows Micro SDs to be used? Or a similar adaptor that goes where the battery is?
Such a shame that storage lets this beautiful phone down.
And no, the obese Touch Pro isnt a solution..
darthbane2k said:
Do you think there will ever be a storage solution for the diamond? For example an adaptor that plugs into the USB input that allows Micro SDs to be used? Or a similar adaptor that goes where the battery is?
Such a shame that storage lets this beautiful phone down.
And no, the obese Touch Pro isnt a solution..
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hey, yeah i was thinking that for a while, perhaps they could even make like a mini-USB thumb drive to plug into the phone... that would be cool coz u could kust keep the thumb drive on your key chain and plug it in when u needed the data on it (and it could b plugged into a PC using a adaptor)...
Curious if there is a way to hook up either a flash drive or an external hard drive through the usb port on a rooted nook color?
Since the underlying OS is Linux I don't know why. Don't you just need to know what mount point to use?
Homer
I guess I am just curious about power, like if it will power a flash drive or an external hard drive with/without a power supply. The mount point would be great too
jonahstepro said:
I guess I am just curious about power, like if it will power a flash drive or an external hard drive with/without a power supply. The mount point would be great too
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Do you have a flash drive or external hard drive with a microSD connector? I've not encountered these on anything but mobile media.
jonahstepro said:
I guess I am just curious about power, like if it will power a flash drive or an external hard drive with/without a power supply. The mount point would be great too
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Internal power for an external drive might be a bit much to ask, considering that to charge the nook in the first place takes a special cord with extra power. Should be enough for say a standard USB flash drive with the right adapter though. No idea if that is the right one, but you get the idea.
Homer
I was thinking about this today. I was wondering if I could use a SD card with say pictures or video and one of those usb card readers like the one included with this SD card http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...208516&cm_re=transcend-_-20-208-516-_-Product
Anyone out there have a powered USB hub, they used to be common as dirt. I suspect if you connected tablet to hub and drive to hub you could create a way to do this with some creative thinking. Assuming the ful usb driver stack is in android/book rom it should work with the right mount commands. It all depends on the drivers though, usually usb stacks use different drivers for being targets like the book is in usb mode, rather than for mounting other devices as targets.. it's an interesting idea, but I'm not sure there would be much of a benefit, it might prove to be slower than USB mode since the book CPU would be doing all the work.
Disclaimer - This is my first post on this site, so I'm going to try to be strait forward and concise, I'm sorry if any info I give lacks a certain panache.
First and foremost, if you want to use a hard drive on your phone through an HD dock, you must format your hard drive to Fat32. This is a very basic, but unavoidable step. That is if you don't want to make the entire process way more complicated. I used Easeus Partition Manager to format my entire 250GB hard drive (impressive I know). You can use other partition manager software, but Easeus is the one I'm used to, and I found a free download of it, which works perfectly on my old XP PC.
The Second step is to make sure you have enough power to make your hard drive usable, and thus be recognized by your phone. I used a USB hub with a Y-Cable and my phone charger to supply the extra power. Note: Do not put the additional USB power port on the HD dock, you will not get enough power. You have to use an additional power source for this method to work. I suggest using at least a 5V 1A charger, but my phone charger is 5.1V 850mA, and works perfectly.
Step Three is to connect the hard drive. This may seem like an unnecessary step, but there is some important things to know. Do not plug multiple storage devices into the hub. There seems to be some priority conflict when this happens. Thus, if you have a Thumb Drive and a Hard Drive, connect the Thumb drive to the HD dock directly, and the Hard Drive to the hub. I haven't tested if there is a similar conflict with two hard drives being plugged in to the hub simultaneously, nor two thumb drives. There also seems to be an issue where if you only have the hard drive plugged in, but no other storage device in any port, the hard drive still won't be detected. So, you may need to plug a thumb drive to your HD dock, and then a hard drive to the hub. This results in your phone calling the Hard Drive the same device name as the Thumb Drive, but the two are shown separately in the file manager.
The hub I used was a Micro Innovations 4-Port USB hub [Model # USB210P/USB210P-F], with a Mini USB port for the main data connection. As such, my Y-Cable was a Mini USB to Full USB Y-Cable. My USB enclosure for my hard drive was made by Manhattan, which has a single USB power/data connector. My Thumb Drive was a 16GB SanDisk Cruzer Micro. My additional charger was my stock Droid Bionic charger. I also used USB extension cords as needed.
In regards to my use of a hub and a Y-Cable there are a couple simple alternatives. One is to use a Y-Cable with a full sized female USB connection in stead of a Mini USB connector. This would allow you to forgo the USB hub. The other alternative is to, depending on the hub you have, use the provided wall charger to directly power the hub, thus not needing the phone charger, nor the Y-Cable.
This method of allowing your Hard Drive to work on your HD dock should work on other devices, as well as (with minimal alterations) silversonic1's guide "How to use USB Host without an HD Dock." http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1495720
Please let me know if this helped you, and feel free to post any additional info on your success and methods used.
Edit 05/28/12: My brother bought a power converter that gives 5V 2.1A, or an optional 5V 1A on two ports. It's an RCA AC to USB converter, model # PCHUSB2R. This adapter was able to supply enough power to my hard drive for it to be read without my Thumb Drive being plugged in as well. It appears that the biggest problem the HD Dock has is that it does not give enough power to charge the phone and power a hard drive through USB. The normal power supply provides 12V 1.5A to the Dock, but I don't know how that power is distributed throughout the Dock. This apparently causes problems, but the additional Amps from the new adapter resolves a lot of them.
Although, recently I've had the problem of the Hard Drive failing on the phone's OS, but not on the Webtop OS, so the hard drive is still usable where it needs to be. You just have to go into the Webtop's file manager to unmount it once your done, but sometimes it won't say it's unmounted, so be careful. Also, the hub solution still doesn't allow you to plug in extra storage devices. It seems you're limited to one storage device per USB port on the dock itself. So, a max of 3, while, theoretically, you should be able to plug in up to 7.
thanks for the concise guide, i've been mulling over NTFS hacks for a while but frankly id probably not be worth the time.
currently i have a USB hub connected to my lapdock by a USB A (back port on lapdock) to mini connector on the hub. correct me if im wrong, but if you actually own the HD or lap dock, USB host mode is activated for you and thus you do not require an OTG cable (assuming you have adequate power for your components)-
i'm working on trying to mount a USB dvd drive, it is being detected correctly however i wonder if the issue you presented with the HD failing to mount without the thumb drive could also present itself here? (seems like simply mounting the DVD shouldnt be too difficult, but device drivers for writing i havent come across..)
nitephlight said:
thanks for the concise guide, i've been mulling over NTFS hacks for a while but frankly id probably not be worth the time.
currently i have a USB hub connected to my lapdock by a USB A (back port on lapdock) to mini connector on the hub. correct me if im wrong, but if you actually own the HD or lap dock, USB host mode is activated for you and thus you do not require an OTG cable (assuming you have adequate power for your components)-
i'm working on trying to mount a USB dvd drive, it is being detected correctly however i wonder if the issue you presented with the HD failing to mount without the thumb drive could also present itself here? (seems like simply mounting the DVD shouldnt be too difficult, but device drivers for writing i havent come across..)
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Thanks for the reply.
It may be mostly power consumption problems for the most part for my set-up. After all I have my Thumb Drive, my Hard Drive, and a wired keyboard with built in USB 1.0 hub (which I connected a wireless mouse dongle and a USB powered fan to). But I did notice that my particular Hard Drive enclosure and Laptop Hard Drive won't work without the extra power. The light on it will turn on, but the Hard Drive remains inactive.
I just ran another test with nothing but the hard drive plugged in, but it wasn't readable until it had both extra power and my Thumb Drive connected. I don't know what exactly is up with this, but I know someone (other than me) will figure it out. I simply am not experienced enough with programming nor diagnostics to be able to find the cause, but I at least can work around the symptoms.
Can I connect my 1TB Western Digital Ext HDD (USB powered) to my Note (GT-N7000, Stock 4.0.4 with Hydracore 5.4 Std)
I tried formatting one partition to FAT32 as well, but no luck..is it bcz of lack of power to the HDD to run?
Of course you can connect. Only your external hard drive in addition to using the USB connection must have a second source of electricity. USB connector on the phone is too inefficient.
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Of course you can connect. Only your external hard drive in addition to using the USB connection must have a second source of electricity. USB connector on the phone is too inefficient.
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Ok..but how can I do that? My Ext HDD is USB powered..is there any way I can provide the HDD with power supply, using some kind of cables/adapters or something?
If your external drive has no additional power outlet, then connect it to your phone is not possible. Attempts to various modifications may damage the phone.
You need a Y split USB cable, something similar to this:
http://compare.ebay.com.au/like/280750493818?ltyp=AllFixedPriceItemTypes
NOTE: that was just first USB cable I found using google, I'm not suggesting/related to that ebay seller in any way! Do your own research, you may be able to buy locally for cheaper.
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You need a Y split USB cable, something similar to this:
http://compare.ebay.com.au/like/280750493818?ltyp=AllFixedPriceItemTypes
NOTE: that was just first USB cable I found using google, I'm not suggesting/related to that ebay seller in any way! Do your own research, you may be able to buy locally for cheaper.
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Hmmm...so, it cannot be used as "portable" as a pendrive..as it needs external power (PC/Laptop OR some external battery)..so better option would be 64GB or higher pendrive (if needed desperately)
Hello all, I just got this device free from my operator, SIM free, and I would like to share this particular aspect.
First of all make shure your X SP is fully charged and you are using a working USB OTG cable adapter (preferably tested on other devices).
1. USB pendrives, SD and microSD adapters. Xperia SP supports out of the box USB storage meaning pendrives and SD adapters like Sandisk Cruzer (some old 4GBmodel) and some Sandisk 32 GB microSD car in Sony Ericsson's IM 920 adapter. All of them formatted as FAT32.
Yes I've encountered fails but related exclusively to voltage (both pendrives and SD adapters). Dunno which will work for you, better try before you buy.
2. Yes it supports exFAT. FWs prior to ...2.254 do not. I've tested them all. I am specific to the aforementioned. exFAt meaning you can mount microSD cards 64+ gigs and virtually any filesizes, think of 8 GB .mkv files.
3. It hurts when it comes to HDDs. Before anything make sure your external HDD has also an external power supply. It means you have to see a wire leading to a wall socket which is being actually connected. Otherwise your phone or tablet will never be able to power by itself a HDD, be it 2.5 or 3.5 inch. Moving on, I found plugging in any externally powered HDD does nothing by itself.
In comes the trick. I own a Xperia LiveDock DK10 for the 2011 range. It's externally powered and also has an USB OTG input. It helped me before with each pendrive which didn't work by itself when plugged in the USB OTG cable alone. Powering the dock supplied the energy the setup was lacking.
Since the most of you will find the dock redundant or missing from stocks I am glad to inform you all that some USB hub that was lying around, branded Manhattan, with external power supply, did exactly that job.
Here are some examples:
Toshiba 500 GB HDD FAT32 file format, 2.5" form factor, IcyBox enclosure, separate power supply, plugged in the 1st port of a Manhattan USB Hub, power supply powered in, mini USB output plugged in USB OTG adapter in Sony Xperia SP, fully charged. Played 1080p mkvs smoothly.
1500 GB Seagate/Samsung, 2000 GB Hitachi NTFS formatted 3.5 HDDs in powered racks, externally powered Manhattan USB hub, USB OTG cable, Xperia SP rooted, installed Paragon exFAT, NTFS & HFS+ and Paragon USB plugin for Total Commander, full size drive fully accesible.
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Also Sony Nex camera, 64GB exFAT SD card inside, connected only with USB OTG cable on Xperia SP - working.
Thanks, u have photos?
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Good info! :thumbup: