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Can XP USB drivers be adjusted for a Pocket PC???

Hi
I wanted to find out if it is possible to adjust the drivers or to just create drivers of an external device to work on a pocket PC ?
Since the communications port on a Wizard is already a mini USB can a regular xp driver be adjusted so that when you plug for example an external HDD and obviously use the appropriate mini usb to mini usb cable into a Pocket pc that it would detect and install onto the device so that you can use it in the similar manner that you would on a regular XP based system ??
reo

there is no USB host drivers, nor is the mini-B port capable of putting out 5volts.. not possible to do what you are asking of the mini-b

Hi
considering that the power issue is not a problem and that the devic has external battery power, would it be possible then ?
OR
Do you think that there is a way to adpat the device to work as a SDIO, so basically convert from USB to SDIO ?
reo

I am not an expert, but I have read somewhere that there are two kinds of USB chip sets - one that is slave-only, and another that can act as master (also called "host mode"). Devices, such as phones, hard drives, flash drives etc., have the "slave mode" chip, and hence cannot be used to act as a host, which is what you want to do.
I am sure someone will correct me if I am wrong!

i researched a bit on USB and SDIO, and it seems that SDIO would be a way to add an external device...
Now would it be possible to create an SDIO device with a host USBB controller in it ? or do i have this all mixed up ?
reo

Yes, that is possible, in theory. However, the SDIO spec does not support Mini-SD afaik; or, even if it does, I have not seen any device maker that makes a mini-SD device (other than the usual flash card). So, I think you are out of luck on that as well.

External Storage!?

Have I missed something here? It seems theres an external storage "drive" available for the Diamond (looks like it plugs into USB)??
http://www.coolsmartphone.com/news4351.html
Anyone know anthing about this? Does this mean that WinMo6.1 has Generic Storage Device drivers?
Anyone got a Usb -> Mini USB adapter (One of these!) and a pen drive to test?

just a fast test, and it didnt work :-(
No power is sent out of the connector

It's just a flash storage drive which happens to have the HTC logo on it... Nothing more than a promotional item and not intended to be used with the Diamond itself.
Mathew

How to Enable usb - on the go?

please tell me how to enable usb on the go . i want to attached my pen drive and my hard drive to my phone .

plug it into the phone, and u're ready to go.. hence the name usb on the go

jinnn_1989 said:
please tell me how to enable usb on the go . i want to attached my pen drive and my hard drive to my phone .
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You need a USB Host to go cable - they are pretty cheap off of ebay.
USB hard drives don't always work - at minimum you will need a powered hub.
- Frank

i know wht USB on the means but how do i enable it. i have tried connecting with a pendrive with the help of the USb on the cable but it does not show .

Once you plug your on the cable in the phone will inform you that usb connecter s connected. Whatever you plug in at the other end of otg cable work run unless it is not supported.
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Just plug it in and look in My files. It will show as usbstorage.

I have an official samsung OTG cable, it works fine on the SGS2, but doesn't appear on the Galaxy Note under usbstorage.
Anyone else out there having similar problems?

i had grab some ebay OtG but after unmount and remove the OTG it causes wakelock which drain alot of juice.

I am also facing problems with OTG . when i plug in the cable thr is not msg nor anything happens in phone. please could any one tell me how to enable it may be with kernel or custom rom or may be anything else.

I also want to know this as well,I have spent considerable time yesterday trying to make this work but no luck at all,I would appreciate if someone could help,as I have seen a video in this forum where the guy was able to.connect a mouse to it stating that it is supported out of the box.

I was able to get it to work with a pendrive and a mouse with no problems, but I couldn't get a keyboard or my 2.5" external drive to mount.
Details:
My OTG cable was from DealExtreme for $2.30 or something.
My pendrive was FAT32 formatted.
My mouse was a basic $10 optical one.
My 2.5" external was NTFS, which probably goes some way to explaining why it didn't work even when I gave it some extra power from my desktop PC too.
My keyboard was a standard USB. I also tried a Logitech keyboard with a wireless USB dongle but that didn't work either.
I watched a whole film off my pendrive with no issues. I messed around with the mouse a bit, but the cursor moved too slowly for my taste and the scroll wheel didn't scroll webpages, which is half the reason I'd plug a mouse in anyway.

jinnn_1989 said:
I am also facing problems with OTG . when i plug in the cable thr is not msg nor anything happens in phone. please could any one tell me how to enable it may be with kernel or custom rom or may be anything else.
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If you get no message when the cable is plugged in on it's own, chances are it is a problem with the cable. I bought a cable of Ebay which didn't work, so I bought a different one and that did.
Regards,
Dave

How to use USB Hard Drives on an HD Dock for Droid Bionic

Disclaimer - This is my first post on this site, so I'm going to try to be strait forward and concise, I'm sorry if any info I give lacks a certain panache.
First and foremost, if you want to use a hard drive on your phone through an HD dock, you must format your hard drive to Fat32. This is a very basic, but unavoidable step. That is if you don't want to make the entire process way more complicated. I used Easeus Partition Manager to format my entire 250GB hard drive (impressive I know). You can use other partition manager software, but Easeus is the one I'm used to, and I found a free download of it, which works perfectly on my old XP PC.
The Second step is to make sure you have enough power to make your hard drive usable, and thus be recognized by your phone. I used a USB hub with a Y-Cable and my phone charger to supply the extra power. Note: Do not put the additional USB power port on the HD dock, you will not get enough power. You have to use an additional power source for this method to work. I suggest using at least a 5V 1A charger, but my phone charger is 5.1V 850mA, and works perfectly.
Step Three is to connect the hard drive. This may seem like an unnecessary step, but there is some important things to know. Do not plug multiple storage devices into the hub. There seems to be some priority conflict when this happens. Thus, if you have a Thumb Drive and a Hard Drive, connect the Thumb drive to the HD dock directly, and the Hard Drive to the hub. I haven't tested if there is a similar conflict with two hard drives being plugged in to the hub simultaneously, nor two thumb drives. There also seems to be an issue where if you only have the hard drive plugged in, but no other storage device in any port, the hard drive still won't be detected. So, you may need to plug a thumb drive to your HD dock, and then a hard drive to the hub. This results in your phone calling the Hard Drive the same device name as the Thumb Drive, but the two are shown separately in the file manager.
The hub I used was a Micro Innovations 4-Port USB hub [Model # USB210P/USB210P-F], with a Mini USB port for the main data connection. As such, my Y-Cable was a Mini USB to Full USB Y-Cable. My USB enclosure for my hard drive was made by Manhattan, which has a single USB power/data connector. My Thumb Drive was a 16GB SanDisk Cruzer Micro. My additional charger was my stock Droid Bionic charger. I also used USB extension cords as needed.
In regards to my use of a hub and a Y-Cable there are a couple simple alternatives. One is to use a Y-Cable with a full sized female USB connection in stead of a Mini USB connector. This would allow you to forgo the USB hub. The other alternative is to, depending on the hub you have, use the provided wall charger to directly power the hub, thus not needing the phone charger, nor the Y-Cable.
This method of allowing your Hard Drive to work on your HD dock should work on other devices, as well as (with minimal alterations) silversonic1's guide "How to use USB Host without an HD Dock." http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1495720
Please let me know if this helped you, and feel free to post any additional info on your success and methods used.
Edit 05/28/12: My brother bought a power converter that gives 5V 2.1A, or an optional 5V 1A on two ports. It's an RCA AC to USB converter, model # PCHUSB2R. This adapter was able to supply enough power to my hard drive for it to be read without my Thumb Drive being plugged in as well. It appears that the biggest problem the HD Dock has is that it does not give enough power to charge the phone and power a hard drive through USB. The normal power supply provides 12V 1.5A to the Dock, but I don't know how that power is distributed throughout the Dock. This apparently causes problems, but the additional Amps from the new adapter resolves a lot of them.
Although, recently I've had the problem of the Hard Drive failing on the phone's OS, but not on the Webtop OS, so the hard drive is still usable where it needs to be. You just have to go into the Webtop's file manager to unmount it once your done, but sometimes it won't say it's unmounted, so be careful. Also, the hub solution still doesn't allow you to plug in extra storage devices. It seems you're limited to one storage device per USB port on the dock itself. So, a max of 3, while, theoretically, you should be able to plug in up to 7.

thanks for the concise guide, i've been mulling over NTFS hacks for a while but frankly id probably not be worth the time.
currently i have a USB hub connected to my lapdock by a USB A (back port on lapdock) to mini connector on the hub. correct me if im wrong, but if you actually own the HD or lap dock, USB host mode is activated for you and thus you do not require an OTG cable (assuming you have adequate power for your components)-
i'm working on trying to mount a USB dvd drive, it is being detected correctly however i wonder if the issue you presented with the HD failing to mount without the thumb drive could also present itself here? (seems like simply mounting the DVD shouldnt be too difficult, but device drivers for writing i havent come across..)

nitephlight said:
thanks for the concise guide, i've been mulling over NTFS hacks for a while but frankly id probably not be worth the time.
currently i have a USB hub connected to my lapdock by a USB A (back port on lapdock) to mini connector on the hub. correct me if im wrong, but if you actually own the HD or lap dock, USB host mode is activated for you and thus you do not require an OTG cable (assuming you have adequate power for your components)-
i'm working on trying to mount a USB dvd drive, it is being detected correctly however i wonder if the issue you presented with the HD failing to mount without the thumb drive could also present itself here? (seems like simply mounting the DVD shouldnt be too difficult, but device drivers for writing i havent come across..)
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Thanks for the reply.
It may be mostly power consumption problems for the most part for my set-up. After all I have my Thumb Drive, my Hard Drive, and a wired keyboard with built in USB 1.0 hub (which I connected a wireless mouse dongle and a USB powered fan to). But I did notice that my particular Hard Drive enclosure and Laptop Hard Drive won't work without the extra power. The light on it will turn on, but the Hard Drive remains inactive.
I just ran another test with nothing but the hard drive plugged in, but it wasn't readable until it had both extra power and my Thumb Drive connected. I don't know what exactly is up with this, but I know someone (other than me) will figure it out. I simply am not experienced enough with programming nor diagnostics to be able to find the cause, but I at least can work around the symptoms.

Note 8 and usb otg

does the note 8 support usb otg natively? I can't find anything through google, as everything all I can find is for the tablet.
If I need to use an app, can anyone recomend a good app.

No problem for me. Been connecting usb flash drives using the adapter without any problem.
Both the default file manager and solid explorer detected it correctly. Also able to stream music directly from my usb flash drive.

ParrSt said:
does the note 8 support usb otg natively? I can't find anything through google, as everything all I can find is for the tablet.
If I need to use an app, can anyone recomend a good app.
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You should get a C type connector, adapter, with the phone (in the Note 8 box,) that you can use with a USB flash drive.

OTG not required for type C USB drives
I have a USB flash drive with type C connector, i can attach it to the Note 8 directly no OTG cable or converter needed, though it gives a rather worrying notification that says that is is now charging the USB attached device (or something similar) but i guess that just means it's supplying power to the device

SteelPicori said:
OTG not required for type C USB drives
I have a USB flash drive with type C connector, i can attach it to the Note 8 directly no OTG cable or converter needed, though it gives a rather worrying notification that says that is is now charging the USB attached device (or something similar) but i guess that just means it's supplying power to the device
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if you tap on the USB notification,
in Notification it should open a pop-up message
asking if you want to transfer files, charge another device
etc. Select what you want to do.
Otherwise it will charge the other device.
Good luck
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Otherwise yiu can set your preference
in Developers Option /USB configuration
eg to charge, MTP (Media Transfer Protocol)
PTP, RNDIS, Audio source etc.

willcor said:
if you tap on the USB notification,
in Notification it should open a pop-up message
asking if you want to transfer files, charge another device
etc. Select what you want to do.
Otherwise it will charge the other device.
Good luck
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I tried that and selecting transfer files but after a little bit of shuffling the charging USB device notification comes back, i am guessing it is required to supply power to the device (no idea just guessing)

SteelPicori said:
I tried that and selecting transfer files but after a little bit of shuffling the charging USB device notification comes back, i am guessing it is required to supply power to the device (no idea just guessing)
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see my post note above.
Look in Developers Option,/USB configuration
for that same options.

willcor said:
see my post note above.
Look in Developers Option,/USB configuration
for that same options.
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i have already set the developer option to default to MTP (i hate having to do that each time i attach it to a pc), still same behavior, im pretty sure that it just means it's supplying juice to the flash drive, seeing as the flash drive has no way of powering itself
edit: Just to clarify, there are two USB notifications, one for "USB file transfer" and one stating that it is charging the attached USB device (not the standard "cable charging" notification you get when attaching a USB cable)

willcor said:
You should get a C type connector, adapter, with the phone (in the Note 8 box,) that you can use with a USB flash drive.
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Okay, I tried that with two different drives. Someone else mentions some USB setting in Developer settings. I will look into those.

Okay, I forgot about the adapter that came with the phone. I tried that but the phone doesn't recognize most of my thumb drives. I have one that was formatted fat that worked. Others ONLY seem to work if I format with the phone first. That's crazy and severely limits what I can do with OTG. Am I missing something or is this right. I would love to be able to use ntfs or ext2/3 formatted drives.

My USB is formatted as exFAT, note 8 recognizes and allows read and write to it.

ParrSt said:
Okay, I forgot about the adapter that came with the phone. I tried that but the phone doesn't recognize most of my thumb drives. I have one that was formatted fat that worked. Others ONLY seem to work if I format with the phone first. That's crazy and severely limits what I can do with OTG. Am I missing something or is this right. I would love to be able to use ntfs or ext2/3 formatted drives.
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For the note 5 I used the "total commander" app with the NTFS plugin enabled - perhaps useful for your use case.

If anyone is having issues with not being able to change the USB option or not having their phone recognize a card reader, someone else had posted something about this for their Note 5: in MyFiles->settings->File Management make sure Manage files over Wi-Fi only is off and you may wish to also show hidden files
I was having fits with intermittent card reader functionality because of these settings. It still shows as charging the USB device, but it now shows the USB memory card in the list of file locations.

My Verizon Note 8 has a 256GB Samsung MicroSD card installed. Not sure if that makes any difference, however using the default file manager it does not show anything changing when I insert any USB OTG. However, I installed ES File Explorer - and it does find the storage but does not actually mount it, although it is readable. I prefer this type of access to the storage, since there is nothing to unmount. Removing storage that has been mounted causes that storage to become corrupted and useless if it is removed without unmounting. I did not know this type of storage connection was possible - I thought everything had to be mounted... Note the circled item in the screen shot - so this is what I have been using...
- R. Kruse Ludington:
Galaxy Note 8<-5<-3<-S3<-Nexus; Droid X; HTC HD2<-Touch Pro 2<-Tilt<-8525; O2 XDA II<-XDA

I can add that I bought a USB C to USB 2.0 type A OTG adapter and it did not work with anything, and sometimes would say that moisture had been detected whenever I plugged it in.
So... I bought a different adapter that is USB C to 3.1 type A and this one works fine with everything I've tested (usb flash drives both 2.0 and 3.x, usb mouse, usb ethernet adapter).

I'll pick up the pendrive and plug it into the usb c adapter on the phone and nothing happens.
The phone does not do anything to plug in.
It does not say anything, does not write anything on the display.
It's silent.
It's like my usb c adapter is not good either.
In the developer settings, I looked at what the usb was about.
Someone's got any ideas.
Thanks

dennistaylor said:
If anyone is having issues with not being able to change the USB option or not having their phone recognize a card reader, someone else had posted something about this for their Note 5: in MyFiles->settings->File Management make sure Manage files over Wi-Fi only is off and you may wish to also show hidden files
I was having fits with intermittent card reader functionality because of these settings. It still shows as charging the USB device, but it now shows the USB memory card in the list of file locations.
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Thanks buddy, it really helped me, i was facing the same issue.

dennistaylor said:
If anyone is having issues with not being able to change the USB option or not having their phone recognize a card reader, someone else had posted something about this for their Note 5: in MyFiles->settings->File Management make sure Manage files over Wi-Fi only is off and you may wish to also show hidden files
I was having fits with intermittent card reader functionality because of these settings. It still shows as charging the USB device, but it now shows the USB memory card in the list of file locations.
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You my friend are an absolutely wonderful human being. I have tried countless times and never figured it on my note 8. Factory resettled multiple times as well. I have a tab s3 and it always pops up but the note 8 not. Changing the option to off seemed to do the trick. Thanks

Seeing as the Note 8 comes with a OTG adapter. I think it is safe to say that the Note 8 does support USB OTG.

iceepyon said:
Seeing as the Note 8 comes with a OTG adapter. I think it is safe to say that the Note 8 does support USB OTG.
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Yes but I believe they really meant for people to use that for smartswitch with the cable. I used it and only had to make a minor tweak with a couple of widgets.
- R. Kruse Ludington
Galaxy Note 8<-5<-3<-S3<-Nexus; Droid X; HTC HD2<-Touch Pro 2<-Tilt<-8525; O2 XDA II<-XDA; Motorola StarTac