Backup Battery NiMH Problem! - MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 Software Upgrading

Hello,
I am using the following rom.
AKU 3.5 WM5 Helmi v1.4.CF2 R2(by baniaczek) - newest
I couldn't send SMS using my old sim card after upgrading so I have changed it today, and I successfully was able to send SMS and it is working great... BTW thanks much to Helmi and baiaczek...
My problem is that after soft/hard reset I have the following message:
"To prevent possible data loss, replace or recharge your battery according to the owner's manual."
My problem is that my PDA2K misunderstand the Backup battery type as it now shows that the Backup battery is Li-ion (25%) like the main one!! I know it should be NiMH
So I think there is a conflict somewhere ...
Any help is much appreciated to my first post.
Update: I have flashed back to WM2003 and the problem GONE! and the battery type was NiMH. I then flashed AKU 3.5 WM5 Helmi v1.4.CF2 R2(by baniaczek) - newest and found the battery type Li-ion again but was fully charged at that moment. Can anyone confirm that his BA sees the backup battery type as NiMH and not Li-ion!!
Thank you,
Bonbort

bonbort said:
Can anyone confirm that his BA sees the backup battery type as NiMH and not Li-ion!!
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Hrm. I'm running the hemi AUK3.5 vanilla and mine shows li-ion for both batteries as well.
Of course, looking at the battery itself (3rd party extended life battery), it is li-ion.

I can confirm it's a Li-Ion as well after opening my BlueAngel up to try and replace it (sadly it's not replaceable).
Says 100% on mine as well when using AKU 3.5 WM5 Helmi v1.4.CF2 R2(by baniaczek)

Blue angel Backup Battery
wuzy said:
I can confirm it's a Li-Ion as well after opening my BlueAngel up to try and replace it (sadly it's not replaceable).
Says 100% on mine as well when using AKU 3.5 WM5 Helmi v1.4.CF2 R2(by baniaczek)
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I've the same problem and I've acquired on expansys.com the Backup Battery (XDA-BUBAT04), then I've disassembled my PDA following the manual with PHOTOS found on this site:
http://www.land-of-kain.de/ppc/mda3/disassembly/
but how could I remove the backup battery cover???? is it possible???? someone know a way to complete this operation???

jdc said:
Hrm. I'm running the hemi AUK3.5 vanilla and mine shows li-ion for both batteries as well.
Of course, looking at the battery itself (3rd party extended life battery), it is li-ion.
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Thanks JDC... then it is fine to have it NiMH on WM2003 and Li-Ion on WM5. I don't have a problem in this, if this is normal with the operating system and as long as the battery shows charged 100%
Bonbort

emsparac said:
I've the same problem and I've acquired on expansys.com the Backup Battery (XDA-BUBAT04), then I've disassembled my PDA following the manual with PHOTOS found on this site:
http://www.land-of-kain.de/ppc/mda3/disassembly/
but how could I remove the backup battery cover???? is it possible???? someone know a way to complete this operation???
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Oh, so it is replaceable. Thanx for the part No.
I used a tiny flat head screw driver to pry the cap off which is soldered to the PCB around the edge. (Breaks the seam of solder in the process)
To mount it back on I point soldered it. Would look better if I had a small heatgun tho.

Related

I have problem with backup battery

I have O2 XdaII i Back up Battery 100% on screen but i remove main battery then i insert main battery into the phone it run customizing.
Someone know help me!!
I have same problem my friend
I have the same issue. I called O2 support and they told me that i need to change the backup battery. It must be the hardest battery to find and once you do find it you have to hope that that is the issue and not something else. Here is the only link it the 'world' i was able to find and I believe this is the battery we're after (copy the whole link in the IE or it will not work):
http://www.services.foxconn.com/store/Product.asp?Category.Id={015B5282-CC34-4E0D-BD91-D97EB366CA9A}&Product.Id={9372B82C-A96C-494D-8F9E-BFFD3EF70E2B}
Let me know how you went with this.
It looks like a button cell / hearing aid battery...
Not sure, if shown battery will fit. I didn't dig Alpine, but Himalaya has Maxell CR2016 rechargeable lithium battery.
XDA IIi backup battery
As far as I know there is no separate 'hearing aid' type back up battery for the XDA IIi - it uses persistant something or other - i.e. it draws power from hte main battery and uses Flash Ram. I have a regular problem reporting backup battery low if I have charged the battery separately from the XDA on the cradle and then inserted it - It seems that the back up only charges when the XDA itself is put on the cradle
JDark said:
Not sure, if shown battery will fit. I didn't dig Alpine, but Himalaya has Maxell CR2016 rechargeable lithium battery.
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As I know its not CR2016 but ML2016
CR type is not a rechargeable one

WM6 Crossbow battery drain

Hi to all,
I, among some others am experiencing battery drain since upgrading to WM6 even though I am running under the same circumstances as before the upgrade with just a few less programs running etc. If anyone can shed any light on a fix for this or suggestions (turning off bluetooth has no great effect) then I would gladly like to hear them.
I know Malik is also experiencing the problem so I know I am not alone.
Thanks.
I am experiencing the exactly the same great battery usage rates between faria, super rom, and wm6. All overclocked at 260.
shannoncole05 said:
I am experiencing the exactly the same great battery usage rates between faria, super rom, and wm6. All overclocked at 260.
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when u overlock a device it drains the battery much much faster then u expect so to help that don't overlock but if u overlock then the battery goes mad because overlocking takes great deal of amount out to make the device faster.
Mahmood said:
when u overlock a device it drains the battery much much faster then u expect.
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I overclocked to 264 (omap) / 286 (bs) MHz without issues. It seems the cpu drains the batt a lot only during "heavy" task execution, e.g. playing a game or watching a movie that is not adapted to qvga. Most of time it just sleeping, as before.
So, i flashed wm6 (pdaviet v.3) and have noticed the same or even less battery drain as before (when my wizard is left alone). You have to check all you're installed to fugure out "the swine"
Vladimyr said:
I overclocked to 264 (omap) / 286 (bs) MHz without issues. It seems the cpu drains the batt a lot only during "heavy" task execution, e.g. playing a game or watching a movie that is not adapted to qvga. Most of time it just sleeping, as before.
So, i flashed wm6 (pdaviet v.3) and have noticed the same or even less battery drain as before (when my wizard is left alone). You have to check all you're installed to fugure out "the swine"
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i have it overclocked to 299 with batterystatus, and no battery drain... the OS isntalled is pdaviet v2 ...
If anything, I've found WM6 to be *better* on battery life than any of the previous WM5 AKUs.
AKU 3.3 would be the best in the WM5 range.
I've also found that the battery life on my device has dramatically increased. I don't have to charge it now for about an extra two days compared to before.
This has been an issue with me as well. I'm running the clean Crossbow ROM (aka Orwells1984 et.al.) Here are the programs I have been running:
2.19 radio rom
Resco Med. Suite 5.42
Pocket Weather
Sprite Backup
Smartskey
Omapclock @ 240mhz
CE Star
I had issues with the today plugin from Resco cutting down my battery life on the old iPAQ 6365. Haven't had ANY problems with previous AKU 3.x versions.
If you're using omapclockplus your device is at normal speeds during standby. I think its the crossbow radio that drains it. Switching between OSs might not change your rom, leaving the battery drain
av0 said:
If you're using omapclockplus your device is at normal speeds during standby. I think its the crossbow radio that drains it. Switching between OSs might not change your rom, leaving the battery drain
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CB does not come with radio. CB is only OS updated.
imisim said:
CB does not come with radio. CB is only OS updated.
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maybe it really is the radio... i moved to 2.17 and since then no battery problems, but im not for sure its that, but possibly since i have same apps installed on fresh WM6 as before when i had battery probs.
Well, I finally did a hard reset and lo and behold the battery drain problem is gone. I had it off the charger for most of the day and kept the WiFi on a bit as well. The ROM on which I really noticed the problem was the Pdaviet3. I'm going to reinstall the Resco Today plugin and see if that does anything. I love this ROM. Clean and fast!
try disconnect "Error reporting". It's on by default.
jwzg said:
Well, I finally did a hard reset and lo and behold the battery drain problem is gone. I had it off the charger for most of the day and kept the WiFi on a bit as well. The ROM on which I really noticed the problem was the Pdaviet3. I'm going to reinstall the Resco Today plugin and see if that does anything. I love this ROM. Clean and fast!
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Weird.. I did this last night too and it seems to have cured the problem...
Anyway I still have the automatic power up issue... Is there a solution other than locking the device? i.e. A registry edit to turn off push email?
I think the battery drain problem MAY have been solved by the hard reset as well.
Tomorrow will be my second day of use since hard reset so I will report my findings.
I remember (when I had Motorola MP220) advice for longer battery life: device should be 100% charged when flashing new ROM. If not, charge it 100% and do the hard reset.
BTW, I had battery drain with Pdaviet ROM v3, 'cose the smatskey was set for overclocking by default.
i own a xda mini s with crossbow (orwells ROM and Radio 1.19), i use direct push and don't have any battery problem.
Had the same problem: batter drained 2 or 3 times as fast as regularly.
Used:
- TomTom6
- SPB Weather
- PocketPC Wakeup
- Resco todayplugin
- Todaytime
Just did a hard reset and reinstalled TomTom & SPB weather.
Everything ran fine, til I installed PocketPC Wakeup.CAB...
So that one might be the problem....
Anyone else tested their software for batterydraining problems?
batterystatus might also be a problem.
I hard reset, did not install batterystatus but installed rest of my normal apps; this solved both my wakeup issues and battery drain issues.
P.S. simply uninstalling batterystatus did nothing, had to reset.
No batterystatus is not the cause because the first time when I had the issue was without batterystatus ever being installed. The problem hasn't really been back even though I now have it installed.

the battery problem that wm6 xda2 shuts down at 40% battery also exist in wm2003se

can any body kind enough to tell that the battery problem that wm6 xda2 shuts down at 40% battery also exist in wm2003se?, i want to go back to wm2003se, can anybody here tells me the difeerence between wm2003se and wm6.thanks bye
fast666 said:
can any body kind enough to tell that the battery problem that wm6 xda2 shuts down at 40% battery also exist in wm2003se?, i want to go back to wm2003se, can anybody here tells me the difeerence between wm2003se and wm6.thanks bye
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what rom are you using?
iam usinf tofclock wm6 radio 1.17
iam usinf tofclock wm6 radio 1.17
There is a thread here in the hima wm6 board about battery problems.
WM6 is not the problem, bad batteries are.
Had the same problem earlier. A change of battery had solved it.
is this problem solved????
is it the new battery the solution?
i have the same problem, xda shuts down at 50% battery status..
tnx
Maggy is right
Maggy said:
There is a thread here in the hima wm6 board about battery problems.
WM6 is not the problem, bad batteries are.
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Try #search this forum# in the Hima WM6 board with 'Battery problems'.
It´s a well known problem.
Then try search function to find 'batti-2.1(-de).ARM.cab' or the working version for your device if you don't use a Hima and give it a try.
Your battery won't work better, but you can see the bat level (with percent indicators, if you want) nearly anytime and you can be warned early enough optical by color change or with acoustic alarm.
Whatever you do: Think of a new battery soon. It´s the best you can do for your amazing device.
Good luck
Heroes never die - Himas live 4ever
WM2003--WM2k3SE--WM5--WM6--WM6.1--WM7?

question on wm6 and battery

Hi all,
I have installed the WM6.1 ROM 6.1.2a16CS by C. Shekhar on my qtek2020.
It is very cool and gave a second life to my qtek. I am just a bit surprised by the duration of the main battery. It is running out of bat very fast.
As I haven't used my qtek for month before installing the new ROM, I can't tell if it's a battery problem or because this new ROM is consuming more resources. Have you noticed such behavior on your machines?
For further info I am not using my qtek as cell phone. I am thinking about using it back as a phone, but I have first to fix this battery aspect.
Moreover I have read s/t about a battery fix, that I haven't installed yet. Can s/o tell me more about this fix and what it is doing?
Anyway this ROM is a great one.
Thx for your answers
Marc
I dont know about the battery fix but i have never installed any sort of fix like that either for wm5 or wm6.x. Are you sure there isnt some background process that keeps on continuously running? It could be a battery problem if the battery had discharged alot during the non-operational period. I changed by himas battery about 7-8months back because the last battery had gotten abit too old and was discharging very quickly.
i think you are talking about SD card fix..its a registery fix that makes the battery consumption by SD-card low
well, WM5 and WM6.x IMHO are battery consuming ROMs, i can attest to this,
experiment no. 1:
same xda, same battery (1200mAH original battery)
-with WM2003SE at normal use, XDA turns off approx after 36 hrs of use including standby.
-with WM5 and WM6.x, XDA turns off WM5-18hrs, WM6.x-25hrs of use including standby.
experiment no. 2:
two xda, different OS, both with brand new 3600mAH extended life battery.
in 1 day (at heavy texting use from 7am to 7pm):
WM2003SE XDA2 - battery from 100% to 58%
WM6.X XDA2 - battery from 100% to 35%
possible explanation:
WM6.x (WM5) uses more CPU time and Memory resources, plus it probably uses more power in maintaining the persistent storage, hard and soft reset persistent memory.
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ather90 said:
i think you are talking about SD card fix..its a registry fix that makes the battery consumption by SD-card low
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Ather, is this fix already in all/most recent releases? If not, can you give us a link? Never heard of it.
I have no battery problems, quite the contrary. My battery life is amazing me. To be honest I tweaked a lot when I started using WM6.x, too much to remember, too much to tell you.
but some parts:
I don't need 24/7 phone connection, Phone Alarm takes care of this for me
Use a bare minimum of today plug-ins
Avoid animations
Close programs except when you seriously do need them in the background
Heya Maggy...its long time since i saw u here.. think maybe month
welcome back ny ways
well that fix was in the Imate website..i have it
having some problem attaching on xda : http://www.2shared.com/file/3591354/873d3f18/SD-Card_Patch.html

Battery problems

I haven't used my himalaya for a while. When i saw there was wm 6.5 available, i grabbed my himalaya. In wm 6.1 my phone said that the battery was empty. So it's been in the dock for a whole night, but it was still empty.
I was a little bit hasty to see wm 6.5, so i flashed it anyway. Now in 6.5 my battery is not recognised. (It says Main battery: Unknown). The battery is a half year old. Does somebody know what might have happened or how i can recharge my battery again?
I allready pulled it out and plugged it in again, but it didn't help. Same as a hard and a soft reset.
Any advise is welcome.
kareltie said:
I haven't used my himalaya for a while. When i saw there was wm 6.5 available, i grabbed my himalaya. In wm 6.1 my phone said that the battery was empty. So it's been in the dock for a whole night, but it was still empty.
I was a little bit hasty to see wm 6.5, so i flashed it anyway. Now in 6.5 my battery is not recognised. (It says Main battery: Unknown). The battery is a half year old. Does somebody know what might have happened or how i can recharge my battery again?
I allready pulled it out and plugged it in again, but it didn't help. Same as a hard and a soft reset.
Any advise is welcome.
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i think what you need to do is to get your battery off your himalaya and have it shocked using a tester or some ac/dc adapter. your battery is dead and for it to be alive again it needs a little burst of energy. i hope it helps...
If you leave lithium ion batteries discharged for a long time they ususally die out and will be unusable. Buy a new battery.
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kareltie said:
I haven't used my himalaya for a while. When i saw there was wm 6.5 available, i grabbed my himalaya. In wm 6.1 my phone said that the battery was empty. So it's been in the dock for a whole night, but it was still empty.
I was a little bit hasty to see wm 6.5, so i flashed it anyway. Now in 6.5 my battery is not recognised. (It says Main battery: Unknown). The battery is a half year old. Does somebody know what might have happened or how i can recharge my battery again?
I allready pulled it out and plugged it in again, but it didn't help. Same as a hard and a soft reset.
Any advise is welcome.
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sorry, i'v got confused, hence, this clarification..
did you mean you were able to use your old batt to run your BA while in 6.1 though its empty and, thereafter, while still empty, you flashed your BA with 6.5? or it is not totally empty at all when you did it?
otherwise stated, could it be the battery indicator *whether empty/unknown" that you wanted to resolve? .. regards

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