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help me please with 2.26 official update

before I do this update should I run awizard or lokiwiz to get a backup...
should I do this first just incase....
what about SIM/CID unlock should I do this first or will I still be able to unlock in the future after installing this update?
any help would be kindly apprecieated...
I am about to upgrade but I dont know what I should do...
thanks..
-James

If you want to upgrade but don't know what you should do, then why don't you start reading some threads on this forum?
When you don't know what you're doin' I can only give you the advice to leave it the way it is
It's not that I don't wanna help ya out, but read first before starting to do some experiments. There are enough people that made certain mistakes before you so just check it out

hey thanks...
I have been reading for a month now and everything seems to say differnet things... I have read nearly every thread on this forum just I learn better from hands on and I have not tried anything as of yet...
thanks for you kind help... im not a dumb ass who doesnt know how to read and doesnt know how to use the search feature... but thanks for your kind help..

@c-pimp ... speaking only for myself, I haven't answered your posts on this because it doesn't appear that you HAVE read through all the postings...
Let me lay it out for you and you take it for what it's worth.
First, if you're willing to take the chance that you MIGHT brick your device then that's YOUR decision. What works for one typically works for another but ... YMMV. No one here is going to accept the responsibility for your device. Most folks here suggest that you stay with your provider's upgrades. If you have such concerns then I don't think you're ready, my opinion.
Second, if you plan on doing anything other than an official sanctioned upgrade then you must CID and SIM unlock, period. This, if done correctly, is forever.
Third, what do you have on your phone that you need to backup? I've heard people speak here of taking 6 hours to rebuild their device after an upgrade and I've never understood exactly how it could take so long. Folks here have compiled very nice cabs with most of all of the registry tweaks one could need. I personally have a folder on my SC that contains all my necessary cabs, security certificates, etc. I'm down to an hour or so to completely rebuild a freshly flashed Wizard. The original ROM's are available so there's no reason to back that up. And if you are doing a major upgrade when you flash the restore will probably break your device as many registry settings, etc are different.
Anything else I can help you with, just ask!
And please don't take offense at me as I mean no harm and am not flaming you nor speaking out of spite.

That's what I meant as well, because you said "I'm about to upgrade, but don't know what to do?" I think that there are many people here telling you to leave it alone
It wasn't my intention to flame, not at all!
Like said before backups are very personal things. Some people want to backup their complete ROM while others just want a backup of the settings from their previous ROM. I one of the people that uses the last method. But I NEVER restore a backup from an old ROM onto a new one. That's because there might be some changes in the registry of the new ROM.
Second, I unlocked my SIM\CID almost the moment it was possible on this forum. Like said before, that's a one time operation
I run the latest t-mobile 2.26 ROM and didn't have to edit NBF files or anything like that. Just install and enjoy.
Once again, it was not my intention to flame. I think it's a bad thing when people say "I wan't to do this, but I haven't got a clue how to do it" to tell them just to flash their device or something like that. Because when it fails you would answer: "I bricked my device, thanks for your kind help!"

been playing with my phone so much I have forgot to respond to alot of questions I asked.... lol... sorry bout that... I wasnt tryin to be a **** when I responded either... I did read alot on the forums but then I would get stuck up on a random post and be confused if I should do something different...
like I said hands on is really the best way for me to learn and now im totally trying new stuff on my phone every day... so sorry if I sounded like a **** when I responded ( I admit I was a little frustrated with my day that day)
-James

@c-pimp - Glad you're on the path to enlightment
(and WE didn't think you were a ****!!!)
Best of luck!

The ROM issued by T-Mobile [2.26] DOES NOT require unlocking your phone.
Can you imagine all the people who own an MDA who have never been to this or any other "tweak" forum installing the ROM and not knowing about unlocking and then it bricked there phone? T-Mo customer service wouldn't be able to handle any other calls but theres.
So back up that puppy and get to upgrading...
One thing I noticed... I downgraded the radio ROM to 1.12 from the one supplied with the 2.26 ROM. So much better!!!

My recent experience at near bricking ...

Well, I was creating a custom ROM with the IPL and SPL files from the T-Mobile 2.26, The Faria / Shogun UWC ROM, the molski Splash screens and the Cingular 2.25 GSM to make a "complete" ROM to see if it would resolve my GSM issues. Computer completely locked up at 4%... After waiting 30 minutes with no progress I figured that it was bricked as the phone now only has the IPL and SPL info on the screen with no GSM or OS being reported. Forced device into bootloader and attempted to reflash but got communication errors with everything. Then for grins (I wasn't grinning!!!) I ran the 1.05 installer which didn't find the phone either ... but then it just went through anyway! The happy Button Beer Splash screen appeared and I had all the 1.x's! Successfully then upgraded back up to the 2.26 and all is well.
I think that someone was smiling down at me!!!
Just wanted to share as maybe this just might help someone.
*** For those that needed the ftp location to Button's 1.05 Basic Downgrade ROM ***

YOU BASTARD, Just Kidding I am happy for you.

Well, probably just tell everyone where you get the installer that solved the problem

hanmin said:
Well, probably just tell everyone where you get the installer that solved the problem
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Original post now includes the link.

hey ive installed ur rom(shoguns) on my wizzard ... and now its all messed up
tha usb port is not working ... its neither charging nor is it connecting to active sync ....
tell me wat to do guys ... and hurry up
ipl 1.05
spl 1.05
os 2.26 10.2
dis is all wat it says in de starting ....
suggest

naeemwaqas said:
hey ive installed ur rom(shoguns) on my wizzard ... and now its all messed up
tha usb port is not working ... its neither charging nor is it connecting to active sync ....
tell me wat to do guys ... and hurry up
ipl 1.05
spl 1.05
os 2.26 10.2
dis is all wat it says in de starting ....
suggest
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Every time I've seen the IPL/SPL not change from the button 1.05 it's because someone didn't unlock the CID.
Is that fast enough?

Dr Puttingham said:
Every time I've seen the IPL/SPL not change from the button 1.05 it's because someone didn't unlock the CID.
Is that fast enough?
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na man .... da rom was fu*ked up ... i found out myself how to fix it ... i put da wizard in bootloader den flashed it wiz mokskis rom and its aok now ... but da the thing wiz active sync 4.5 beta ,,, its not connecting is it not compatiable or wat ???

LOL...hey Steven, come on over and I'll slap you a couple times. It can't be as painful as trying to read what the english professor there has to say. AND HURRY UP! :-D

markgamber said:
LOL...hey Steven, come on over and I'll slap you a couple times. It can't be as painful as trying to read what the english professor there has to say. AND HURRY UP! :-D
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Get in line! (and bring a lunch as it's a LONG line!)

LOL....yeah, I've got a pretty long line here myself. BTW, it is me or has the number of people trashing their phones started to get ridiculous? I mean, on one hand it sucks to be them for not knowing anything about what they're doing but on the other hand, it's just a matter of time before someone ruins their phone and looks into legal recourse because that seems to be all the rage these days.

Holy cr*p... he said hurry up...lol
sorry, i was just busting up, maybe it's a joke, but foreals, he said "hurry up"... who says that... especially when asking for help. Anyways, just wanted to show my appreciation for the rom, what you, faria, shogun, and all the beta testers are doing is amazing... Can't wait till the release...
ahhh man, i got to do it one more time...
"tell me wat to do guys ... and hurry up"...

markgamber said:
LOL....yeah, I've got a pretty long line here myself. BTW, it is me or has the number of people trashing their phones started to get ridiculous? I mean, on one hand it sucks to be them for not knowing anything about what they're doing but on the other hand, it's just a matter of time before someone ruins their phone and looks into legal recourse because that seems to be all the rage these days.
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I agree that there seem to be more and more people now that don't have the patience to wade through the numerous threads and posts here regarding the possible pitfalls regarding upgrading a ROM. Most often that "don't do this if you're not aware of the possible bricking, etc" message is on the very first page goes unread. Of course no one reads those.... I mean, who reads a EULA (End User License Agreement) ???
I'm actually having a great day when I don't respond to a post regarding a question I already answered on the same page... but we've all been there!
And I pity the fool that tries to sue me!
Ah, I'm just ranting as I live for the abuse....

I am glad I did...saved me a lot of potential problems... but anyway, molski's new rom really works great...
a big pat at the back of the great guys in this forum that gave us all the wonderful wizard roms... =)

Cool, I was just curious. I've worked for a couple of people who had way more money than brains and I could easily see them showing up, not wanting to be bothered with instructions, ruining their phone and immediately calling a lawyer to have the site shut down and all those behind it burned at the stake. But they could spell, so that had that going for them. Which is nice.
Personally, I liked a message somewhere on here from some clown who goes on a rant about how "windoze" sucks (and used all the rest of those trite old sayings that were kind of cute 15 years ago when someone still cared about OS/2), then talks about how he was too high to be bothered with paying attention to what he was doing, trashed his phone so someone help right f-ing now. That's class right there. Makes me wonder how some people find a door to get out of the house in the morning.

markgamber said:
Cool, I was just curious. I've worked for a couple of people who had way more money than brains and I could easily see them showing up, not wanting to be bothered with instructions, ruining their phone and immediately calling a lawyer to have the site shut down and all those behind it burned at the stake. But they could spell, so that had that going for them. Which is nice.
Personally, I liked a message somewhere on here from some clown who goes on a rant about how "windoze" sucks (and used all the rest of those trite old sayings that were kind of cute 15 years ago when someone still cared about OS/2), then talks about how he was too high to be bothered with paying attention to what he was doing, trashed his phone so someone help right f-ing now. That's class right there. Makes me wonder how some people find a door to get out of the house in the morning.
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OS/2 ... and I see that you're also a "senior member"... my we're showing our age
Actually I kinda liked CP/M but I'm so freak'n old I forget how old I really am ...
(but at least my spelling hasn't suffered...yet!!!)

Ha! Well...yeah, on one hand I still have a copy of OS/2 around here somewhere. On the other hand it wasn't too many years ago when I finally quit my position as the vocalist of a hardcore punk band, so it's all relative.
I make a pretty good living at this development thing and yet when I went to Tmo and got an MDA, there was still a little sticker shock. When I brought it home and thought about updating the radio ROM because the original was terrible, I read about updating for several days before I actually tried it myself. Read about how to recover from a bad flash, read about all the potential problems and how to avoid them. Read and read and read some more and when I thought I had it all down pat, I read it all one more time, just to be sure. And even then, I was sweating bullets when I did the actual update. This wasn't my first PDA phone and I had flashing experience from previous phones, the latest being a blue angel. Now that Tmo has released their 2.26 rom which works very well (for me, anyway), I absolutely refuse to flash anything else anymore because why risk it? To look cool? I don't think so.
Given that, it just boggles my mind how someone could drop that kind of money on a phone, bring it home, slap it onto a usb port and with no experience and not bothering to really read anything, attempt to flash anything and expect (expect!) to be successful. There was that goof I mentioned above and, even better, was that guy who decided the rom image in the ftp folder named "TEST_ROM_DO_NOT_FLASH" (or something like that, I forget offhand) was a good choice who then got downright indignant when people made fun of him for being such an idiot. I just don't get it. I have a 15 year old who thinks more clearly than that....and he can flash his phone. And has. Many times. And that's why I lost patience after a while.

I have no patience (maybe that's why I'm not a real doctor)

newb to mda scene

hi,i just purchased an unlocked tmobile mda online.iam unsure of the firmware version and everything,but i was just curious what rom would i use too get rid of the tmobile theme,software?i just want it too look like a normal mda with windows mobile installed,if possible,and still make calls and access everything else.let me know if this is possible.thanks

Yeah, what you're asking for is very much possible.
The easiest way would be to perform a ROM upgrade, that, however isn't always the easiest thing in the world. Things can go wrong and worst case scenario would be to damage it for good.
So, for that reason I would suggest that you take the time and read through some of the threads in this forum and at the same time get to know your device a little better before you go through with any kind of upgrading.
To get you started have a look at these threads:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Wizard
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=263116
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=282498
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=284292

_Nomad_ said:
Yeah, what you're asking for is very much possible.
The easiest way would be to perform a ROM upgrade, that, however isn't always the easiest thing in the world. Things can go wrong and worst case scenario would be to damage it for good.
So, for that reason I would suggest that you take the time and read through some of the threads in this forum and at the same time get to know your device a little better before you go through with any kind of upgrading.
To get you started have a look at these threads:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Wizard
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=263116
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=282498
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=284292
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Great set of starter threads Nomad I copied them into a document for future use hope you don't mind. Really when you think about it these threads should be required reading for the newbies.
Kirby

Thanks
Took me a little while to hunt them down

kevincad said:
hi,i just purchased an unlocked tmobile mda online.iam unsure of the firmware version and everything,but i was just curious what rom would i use too get rid of the tmobile theme,software?i just want it too look like a normal mda with windows mobile installed,if possible,and still make calls and access everything else.let me know if this is possible.thanks
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If dropping t-mobile stuff is all you want, then hard reset your phone, go through the setup screen until it prompts you that customization will start in 3 seconds. Soft reset your phone at this point... Voila, generic phone with no carrier customizations...

hi,thanks for everyones help.i have read a little on the htc wizard wiki,some good topics.yeah its my first actual pda phone,my friend has the cingular 8125 and says its worth getting.this rom sounds interesting too install,once i get more familiar with the pda. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=282498

maybe we could make this thread sticky so the newbies can find the links on the first page

Advice

Hello everyone,
having read the Kaiser wiki fairly extensively, I still haven't been able to find the answer to the most important question I had about it.
I recently purchased a v1615 (Vodafone branded Tilt) and the geek inside of me is burning to install a new rom onto it as the one that came with it sucks bad.
Would anybody be able to suggest which are the most popular (i.e best for most common usage) roms out there at the moment?
Thanks in advance for any help you might be able to give me.
Gab

The original rom in my tilt was very slow. I flashed my kaiser with one of Dutty's roms and its now much faster and already has most of the software I need already installed.

I like Duttys but Slueth has been the best for me so far.

Gowardo said:
Hello everyone,
having read the Kaiser wiki fairly extensively, I still haven't been able to find the answer to the most important question I had about it.
I recently purchased a v1615 (Vodafone branded Tilt) and the geek inside of me is burning to install a new rom onto it as the one that came with it sucks bad.
Would anybody be able to suggest which are the most popular (i.e best for most common usage) roms out there at the moment?
Thanks in advance for any help you might be able to give me.
Gab
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If you really want to let the true geek in you out to play. Try them all. And I will see you at the NExt Flashers Anon Meeting.

hehe,
I appreciate all the advice.
I already have had a bit of a look around the forums now all I need to do is figure out which roms are where and then I'll start trying stuff out... thanks guys
Edit: Also, I have never actually flashed a smartphone before, I bow to those of you who have been in the "business" for a while, but me thinks I might need a bit more time to learn... the thing is, what sort of chance do you think there is that the whole process will drive me crazy? Seems a lil complicated, but doable so far. Just need to understand what all the various different things are for. (I.e. why radios aren't included in roms, and what they are actually for ..yaeh, im THAT noobish).
Anyhoo, thanks again fellas.

If you can follow simple intructions then I think you're going to be ok.

I'm sure I will be fine, but I have a feeling I might take advantage of the more generous of you at some point in the future again...

Gowardo said:
I'm sure I will be fine, but I have a feeling I might take advantage of the more generous of you at some point in the future again...
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That will cost you some true blue Italian Manicotti.
Edit:
All joking aside, you'll be fine. You have already done more than most by reading the Wiki. Might I also suggest the FAQ Wiki. Have fun and welcome to Rom Flashers Anon.

Gowardo said:
Hello everyone,
having read the Kaiser wiki fairly extensively, I still haven't been able to find the answer to the most important question I had about it.
I recently purchased a v1615 (Vodafone branded Tilt) and the geek inside of me is burning to install a new rom onto it as the one that came with it sucks bad.
Would anybody be able to suggest which are the most popular (i.e best for most common usage) roms out there at the moment?
Thanks in advance for any help you might be able to give me.
Gab
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Welcome to the flashing club lol.
There is no "best" rom , just find the one that you think is "best" for you.
Yea, the Wiki and Faq here is very noob friendly. I started up as a new ppc user , but It has been so smooth. Most of the flashing trouble can be recover , as long as you dont mess with advance stuff like MTTY .
Try Dutty rom , they are very popular and updated frequently.
make sure you have hard SPL before flashing.
Peeps here are very friendly , as long as you read and research before any question.

Reset question

although i am at risk of getting flamed for asking i am am scared ****less i'll read the wrong guide and duck up my phone.....i can't afford another one
i want to get rid of the vodafone software and the glitches the phone has. i want to completely reset my phone.
i need to know:
- which apps i need
- how to blank everything
- the os version i need which functions best on this hardware set up. (the tytnii)
hope someone is patient enough to help me out. my phone keeps doing odd stuff and it gets on my nerves

Read this entire thread. You can't fail if you read it all.

definitely check out that thread, and read the How to Flash your First ROM by Dave Shaw I think it is.
I would recommend grabbing the latest HTC stock 6.1 ROM (check the wiki for the links) and then go from there, trying custom ROMs as you see fit.

cheers all
thanks to all who replied.
i am gonna have a go tonight
take it easy all

so i had a go...
i flashed my first ROM. (and there was much rejoicing)
i read a little further down the page about a hard spl
what is one of these??
i want to get rid of the vodafone software. i want to brick my phone and start again. i suceeded in flashing my phone butit looks exactly the same.....and still does the same stupid stuff
i still dont wanna do the wrong hing with this so am hoping someone will be patient enough to tell me exactly which bit i need
yours patiently
scared ****less

ihtetytnii said:
i flashed my first ROM. (and there was much rejoicing)
i read a little further down the page about a hard spl
what is one of these??
i want to get rid of the vodafone software. i want to brick my phone and start again.
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As always the FAQs and stickies are your friend.
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=SPL%20Questions%3F
Oh and I really hope you don't actually WANT to brick your phone.

Just because you unlocked and hard spl'd your phone, nothing is going to change if you flash the same old Voda rom back on to it. What rom did you flash ?

shrugs
the one in the recommended guide
all i want to do is get rid of the vodafone crap and start again
to be hones, i don't really understand much of th terminology or exactly what i'm doing. just following instructions. i'm ust a little nervous (and lazy) some of the guides (while great and accurate from what i have tried) assume a lot of knowledge and when i have to start learning stuff like this it confuses me and i tend to not achieve what i wanted.
my phone has developed some odd and irritating behaviour not to mention being slow as hell sometimes
i would quite happily swap this phone for something without a slide keyboard if there is a bit of the board where ican do that

Well......again, what rom and spl do you have currently on the phone ?

A good thing to do for someone scared ****less .. sit back, don't touch the phone, and go through reading the FAQ as posted by others. Especially flashing for noobs by mskip.
Then look up on the Kaiser Wiki on this XDA site (google Kaiser Wiki). Read through and understand what Hard SPL is, what it means to unlock your phone, and why it's important.
Combine those knowledge, you're ready to flash. Otherwise, go and pay a visit to nearest shop that offers flashing service. Pay them, and if it doesn't work, sue them. Here at XDA we can help, but you need to pickup something before we can do much help.

i have windows mobile 6.1 on here at the moment.

i'm running windows mobile version 6.1