Hi, i am user of univerzal and i am trying to mod it to support sdhc cards. athena and uni has same cpu and the library for sdhc support must be same. And there is also mods in registry. I need some files from athena. i need sdhc.dll, sdbus.dll and exported registry from athena. can someone help me?
ftoz said:
Hi, i am user of univerzal and i am trying to mod it to support sdhc cards. athena and uni has same cpu and the library for sdhc support must be same. And there is also mods in registry. I need some files from athena. i need sdhc.dll, sdbus.dll and exported registry from athena. can someone help me?
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I used to be a Uni owner and thought this has been discussed to death on the Uni forum, the conclusion being that people had tried sdhc drivers to no avail. As I understand it the point with sdhc is that it needs a different reader - i.e. different hardware (a;beit that it is backwards compatible). Replacement drivers are not enough.
Perhaps some like Midget could confirm?
Yes, But Look At Treo 650? It Is Old Machine Too, And I Think That Has Old Reader With No Usb 2.0.and Now It Support 8gb Sdhc. Someone Do Driver And Now It Support Sdhc. Only One Problem Is Reader, Because, Cpu Is Same. Usb 2.0 Has Bigger Bus Speed And That Can By Reason To Unfunction On Uni. If You Have Some Tread About It, Send Me Please Shotcut
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Yes, But Look At Treo 650? It Is Old Machine Too, And I Think That Has Old Reader With No Usb 2.0.and Now It Support 8gb Sdhc. Someone Do Driver And Now It Support Sdhc. Only One Problem Is Reader, Because, Cpu Is Same. Usb 2.0 Has Bigger Bus Speed And That Can By Reason To Unfunction On Uni. If You Have Some Tread About It, Send Me Please Shotcut
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The discussions were all on the Uni thread - try searching there on SDHC
I try to search for sdhc, but no interesting informatoin for me. Can someone send the files? i think that is work for 5 minutes and i will be happy play with this
and i forgot sdmemory.dll file too
It doesn't work. It really has been discussed to death.
SOME 4GB cards work in Universal, but they aren't SDHC (or especially reliable).
SDHC=different hardware. Universal does not have SDHC.
Athena has SDHC.
Whatever the Treo 650 does, it's unrelated to what the Universal/Athena can do.
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SDHC=different hardware. Universal does not have SDHC.
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Are you shure?
Just read this: http://www.sdcard.org/sd_memorycard/Simplified Physical Layer Specification.PDF
it isn't new hardware, mostly new drivers are needed (eg the treo 650)
in the universal's case it seems that new drivers are not enough and a new firmware is needed, which isnt avaliable and, without jtag, couldnt be used anyway.
sorry, no SDHC for universals
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firmware is needed, which isnt avaliable and, without jtag, couldnt be used anyway.
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There was no firmware update for Universal?
Why JTAG?
IMHO, all you need is to add 3 DLLs to Windows directory(with signature) and change some registry keys...
Just picked up a 4GB INTEGRAL miniSDHC card on fleaBay for £12 (some guy bought for his Nokia but it didnt work or something).
Works fine in my Ameo...it's a class 4 if thats any help to anyone having problems.
Ant-125 said:
There was no firmware update for Universal?
Why JTAG?
IMHO, all you need is to add 3 DLLs to Windows directory(with signature) and change some registry keys...
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Why on earth do you think that what you need to add in your opinion is going to fix something that the many extremely experienced developers on this forum haven't managed?
From what Midget is saying, I think that what I'm thinking of as "hardware" and him as "Firmware" is the same thing; there's some low-level stuff on the Universal and this is a component level firmware hack.
i.e. NOT a new build of the ROM/Windows, but something more akin to the BIOS on a PC.
Anyway, you should pursue this in the Universal section; Athenas support SDHC.
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Why on earth do you think that what you need to add in your opinion is going to fix something that the many extremely experienced developers on this forum haven't managed?
From what Midget is saying, I think that what I'm thinking of as "hardware" and him as "Firmware" is the same thing; there's some low-level stuff on the Universal and this is a component level firmware hack.
i.e. NOT a new build of the ROM/Windows, but something more akin to the BIOS on a PC.
Anyway, you should pursue this in the Universal section; Athenas support SDHC.
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What he said:
Also about 'your honest oppinion': dont you think that hasnt been tried before?
see on Simplified Physical Layer Specification point 4.2.3 cartd initialization.
I think, that only difference between uni and ahtena is reader. Athena has 2.0 and uni 1.1 standart. I open some usb 2.0 reader to pc and there is one cip and clock generator. 2.0 has only faster transfer for sdhc.When insert sdhc card, hcs bit is set to 1, sd card set it to 0. if i set hcs to 1 and set lower sdhc class speed, it can work. But i dont know where. Where is hcs bit? in registry? mayby. But athenas registry and dll can be help
ftoz said:
see on Simplified Physical Layer Specification point 4.2.3 cartd initialization.
I think, that only difference between uni and ahtena is reader. Athena has 2.0 and uni 1.1 standart. I open some usb 2.0 reader to pc and there is one cip and clock generator. 2.0 has only faster transfer for sdhc.When insert sdhc card, hcs bit is set to 1, sd card set it to 0. if i set hcs to 1 and set lower sdhc class speed, it can work. But i dont know where. Where is hcs bit? in registry? mayby. But athenas registry and dll can be help
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Ahhh there's nothing like persistence.......
8GB SDHC can see only 3.5GB
Hi, I just bougth 8GB Toshiba class 4 SDHC card
after install SDHC.cab, my universal can see only 3.5GB of data, but My PC can see up to 7.5GB.
I copy data over 3.5GB from my PC and check in my universal, i found that it sees the data folder and name, but once I click on the file, it said the file does not exit. I try on PC, the result is no problem.
I have been trying to find the way to partition my new SDHC card to 2 drive hoping it will solve this problem, but so far have no luck.....
Can anyone help me out ?
Thanks so much
iamgvoice said:
Hi, I just bougth 8GB Toshiba class 4 SDHC card
after install SDHC.cab, my universal can see only 3.5GB of data, but My PC can see up to 7.5GB.
I copy data over 3.5GB from my PC and check in my universal, i found that it sees the data folder and name, but once I click on the file, it said the file does not exit. I try on PC, the result is no problem.
I have been trying to find the way to partition my new SDHC card to 2 drive hoping it will solve this problem, but so far have no luck.....
Can anyone help me out ?
Thanks so much
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You might like to try asking in the Universal forum.
....Actually, have just checked and this is your third identical post!!!
The latest Universal roms (eg: laurentius26) DO support sdhc in the universal.
Have a look in the universal WM6 forum.
Related
I broke my ipaq2490b which worked flawlessly with Wm6.1 and SDHC cards.
Now I have got this imate phone edition and from what every post has said, there are no rom images that supports sdhc (Ive tried most of them (which seem uniformly good in all other respects) listed in this forum over the last few days). I have also tried cab files etc for a number of other wm6.1 devices, all without success with either of my SDHC cards.
Now my question is, is there *anyone* out there that has had any luck getting a sdhc card to work, or could hopefully speculate on the problem as I am at my wits end, and theres a huge difference between 16MB SDHC and any card thats vanilla SD.
NB I do know you can format 4GB SDHC cards to Fat16 (therefore making them SD 4GB cards) but I kinda am hoping to get my 16GB card working.
no need for a seperate post, there has been no working edition of SDHC driver yet , all the ones you find will either wont work or will corrupt your existing SD drivers
Fair enough, I couldnt find anything (recent) that definitely stated that.
Any idea on what the problem is? If you have any leads on the matter I may go off and experiment on stuff, as I am reasonably brave in that regard, and the imate is pretty useless to me with only my smallish sd card anyway, its worth the effort..
NB thanks for the roms!
its the drivers, some have got them to work and some devices are still lying but we shouldnt let our hops down as we are running WM6.1 on a devices which recieved the last official WM2003 Upgrade in year 2004
Hi everyone
That's my first post! I've been hanging around here withwout becomming user so long...till now.
I have just bought an sdhc card ( dont know the class ) and it's working EXTREMELY SLOWWWW on my Kaiser TyTN II (htc) when I mean slow, i mean below usb1.0
I'm using Card Export II, compatibility with Hermes devices, and when writing a single mp3 through, ~6mb it takes 5 minutes. Transfer rate is below usb 1, and that was weird, so i've checked to transfer ~6mb to anotrher microSD card (256mb old card from old phone, nokia brand) and the song was copied pretty fast, reaching usb 1.0. bitrate
Imagine to copy a 400~mb film on my new card, even i can't copy mp3 ...to slow...ah, almost i forgot it, the new card, kingston sdHC with it's HC pc card reader works exellent, usb2.0.
How that can be possible? an old card is working at least 4fold times faster!!! than my new Kingston sdHC 4gb.
Any idea?
Really appreciate.
Any idea about that?
Someone is using a Kaiser II with Card Export II? having reeeaaaly slow data rate¿
thanks
As you know, the Kaiser only supports USB 1.1 and thus (s)low speeds.
First of all, disable the Hermes workaround option. Activating the option reduced my transfer speed by half (approx.).
For large files, just use an external USB 2.0 card reader.
In the past I have done a test to get an idea of the different transfer speeds:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=392941 (post 9)
Just wondering: which ROM are you using and which class has your SDHC card? (Me: -G-'s DK.10 series - WM6.1 & SDHC Class 4)
As to why your transfer rates are so low, I have no idea...
Hi!
Mhhh it could be the rom....i've even tried tweaking registry parameters (increase sd bloc size, etc) with no significant success on writing speed.
I've got and kingston 4gb sdhc class 4, rom WM6 prof compilation 18125.0.4.2
I had this problem with a Kingston 8GB Class 4. I tried tweaks and other roms, no luck. I ended up exchaning the card for another one that was exatly the same, and it completely solved my problem. I think a bad one gets in the batch from time to time. It took like 2 minutes to transfer 500kb. Granted, it takes a long time to transfer files anyways, but not that bad.
I've heard this from other people as well. However,
securedigital said:
Hi everyone
That's my first post! I've been hanging around here withwout becomming user so long...till now.
I have just bought an sdhc card ( dont know the class ) and it's working EXTREMELY SLOWWWW on my Kaiser TyTN II (htc) when I mean slow, i mean below usb1.0
I'm using Card Export II, compatibility with Hermes devices, and when writing a single mp3 through, ~6mb it takes 5 minutes. Transfer rate is below usb 1, and that was weird, so i've checked to transfer ~6mb to anotrher microSD card (256mb old card from old phone, nokia brand) and the song was copied pretty fast, reaching usb 1.0. bitrate
Imagine to copy a 400~mb film on my new card, even i can't copy mp3 ...to slow...ah, almost i forgot it, the new card, kingston sdHC with it's HC pc card reader works exellent, usb2.0.
How that can be possible? an old card is working at least 4fold times faster!!! than my new Kingston sdHC 4gb.
Any idea?
Really appreciate.
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if not mistaken, i think i've read somewhere stating that kaiser max spped is usb1.1 and class2 for sdhc (hardware limitation)
well
I jave update the rom....to hyperdragon III and things got worse....
Now, can't even connect with pc via Card Export....and the worst of all, my gps got ruined.
More than 45minutes to catch gps signal
Before flashing, with the original rom i got satellite inside home, now...now not even outside....
Gps is now spoiled.
I've used [13 January 2009] HyperDragon III Raphael OS 5.2.21009 Build 20931.1.5.0
Now i should fix the gps...any idea¿? reflashing the rom would be painful.
Thanks
The fastest transfer rate I have found was via a ftp server on the kaiser. Its called Mocha Ftp Server. Works via wifi
Hope this helps
P.S.
I dont think HDIII comes with a radio. Maybe you are using an incompatible one. Look at the list on his page and download a matching radio for WM6.1 ( as this 100% will cause issues with any radio function including GPS )
It's not only a hardware thing.. I am using an sdhc 8 gig from sandisk, and just reading/writing to it is slow (even w/ an external reader as oppossed to the one in my comp)....
I guess it's like trading off mileage for speed in a car though.............. I dunno, I'm about ready to chuck mine, good thing it only cost me 29 bucks.
My 16gb sandisk card got corrupted yesterday and apparently it has something to do with this file EncFiltLog. I cannot copy anything to the card, cannot delete anything from the card and cannot format it. I found the solution in Blackstone forum...but as a kaiser owner I cannot benefit from it because we don't have DISK MODE on kaiser. Apparently it's been cooked in a few new roms for kaiser but Disk mode doesn't work. Has anyone successfully fixed this on kaiser? I,ve spend 60 pounds on the card and I don't feel like buying another one especialy if the problem might occur again.
krnkris said:
PROBLEM:
Now, the problem all started when try to format the micro SDHC on the phone or on the PC with card reader.
Tried with differ format program also low level not worked.
DONT USE THESE!!! Waste of time!!!
SOLUTION:
So after doing some thinking about the situation, I figured that there was a problem with the card inserted and find the file EncFiltLog on it.
It is the WM 6.1 encription file. You can't delete, move files from or in to the SDHC.
The best way to solve this issue, as the hard-reset DOES NOTHING to fix this issue, would be to have windows hopefully find the connected device and format it. Here are the EASY steps which DO NOT involve using a dozen computers and has provided the same result EVERY time; which is a working on my 8gig memory in my HTC HD.
1. Connect the HD to the computer and select DISK DRIVE as the option on the on-screen popup on your phone. Don’t select ACTIVE SYNC. If you miss it, then go into your phone and press START>SETTINGS>CONNECTIONS TAB>USB to PC and select the bullet of DISK DRIVE and hit ok.
2. On your computer, (USING A WINDOWS XP MACHINE), go into your "My computer"
3. A window for will open with two columns.(If not, change the view to "Group") We are looking at the RIGHT side right now. In there is has three categories, and we are only focusing on ONE of them. LOOK for STORAGE which should be the center category.
4. Click with right to the desired "Storage device; A: ; D: E;", it will take a minute or two depending on your computer speed and environment to populate your hard drive and connected memory devices.
5. You will eventually see your PHONE internal storage listed. IT WILL TAKE SOME TIME BECAUSE YOUR PHONE INTERNAL STORAGE IS CORRUPTED!
***BE SURE WHAT YOU ARE LOOKING AT IS IN FACT YOUR PHONE AND NOTHING SOMETHING ELSE LIKE YOUR MAIN HARD DRIVE OR SOME OTHER STORAGE DEVICE WITH IMPORTANT FILES ON THERE***
****I TAKE NO RESPONSIBILITY IF YOU FORMAT THE WRONG DEVICE***
6. Choose format and let it format the drive. This should also take a few minutes. Select FAT32 and name is whatever you want! Let this finish COMPLETLY!
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My 16gb sandisk card got corrupted yesterday and apparently it has something to do with this file EncFiltLog. I cannot copy anything to the card, cannot delete anything from the card and cannot format it. I found the solution in Blackstone forum...but as a kaiser owner I cannot benefit from it because we don't have DISK MODE on kaiser. Apparently it's been cooked in a few new roms for kaiser but Disk mode doesn't work. Has anyone successfully fixed this on kaiser? I,ve spend 60 pounds on the card and I don't feel like buying another one especialy if the problem might occur again.
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I received a corruption error a few months back because windows media player decided to sync my media files to my storage card. what error did you receive when you attempted to format it? I do not want to sound arrogant but when you placed the card into the micro sd/sd adapter did you unlock the adapter?
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I received a corruption error a few months back because windows media player decided to sync my media files to my storage card. what error did you receive when you attempted to format it? I do not want to sound arrogant but when you placed the card into the micro sd/sd adapter did you unlock the adapter?
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Yes that was the first thing i did. I tried formatting it on my laptop with 2 different apps and also on my PPC without success. I'm able to copy about 90% of my files to my laptop's harddrive but cannot save anything to the card or format it. The problem occured yesterday when I was creating a new Word document on my PPC... it wouldn't save to storage card and some error window poped out. Since then the phone has been a mess. It was barely usable because I had a lot of programs on my memory card which were used all the time by the ppc, had to hard reset and it's fine now of course until I try to browse files on my card.
I'm guessing that you didn't have any problems formatting your card?
Windows native formatting program gave this error: Windows cannot complete formatting
SDFormatter: the memory card is write-protected. please release the write protect switch"(have tried formatting the card with the switch in both positions to no avail)
some ppc formatting app "told" me to check whether any programs placed on SDHC card are being used by the system at the moment
I had the same problem with my 8 GB SDHC card. I spend few days trying to find solution. Most likely you card is gone for good. There is only one thing that I didn’t try and that maybe could work is to format card on Linux. They said it helps in some of the cases. Good luck with your card but be ready for the worst.
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I had the same problem with my 8 GB SDHC card. I spend few days trying to find solution. Most likely you card is gone for good. There is only one thing that I didn’t try and that maybe could work is to format card on Linux. They said it helps in some of the cases. Good luck with your card but be ready for the worst.
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Thanks...I've tried deleting files and formatting under linux using Qparted....didn't work
Yes this doesn't look too good....I think the only thing I can do now is to look for a Kaiser rom with working DISK MODE and try to use HD users solution.
SDFormatter V2 from Panasonic
I once had the probleme and I did use the mentionned program.
It did solved my issue.
You should be able to find it for free on internet.
Regards.
Pascal
Perhaps this is different than I've experienced, but multiple times my SD card has become unreadable on my Tilt, and I just run a disk check on it, it finds weird/bad stuff, then it's fine again when it's done.
Not sure what's going on with that, as I've never made any sense of the chkdisk files that are created that are parts of the bad data.
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Perhaps this is different than I've experienced, but multiple times my SD card has become unreadable on my Tilt, and I just run a disk check on it, it finds weird/bad stuff, then it's fine again when it's done.
Not sure what's going on with that, as I've never made any sense of the chkdisk files that are created that are parts of the bad data.
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Thanks all, I've tried that Panasonic formatting program hell I have tried at least 10 other programs for formatting, repairing and checking(chkdisk didn't help either) cards none of them have worked. And the most annoying thing is that I sent an email to sandisk on thursday last week and they haven't replied yet...I'm going to claim warranty replacement.
Do you have a digital camera? If so try and format with that as i had a simlar problem again a SanDisk to which the computer would not format, the phone would not format yet i used Fuji DSLR to format and it worked.
stylez said:
Do you have a digital camera? If so try and format with that as i had a simlar problem again a SanDisk to which the computer would not format, the phone would not format yet i used Fuji DSLR to format and it worked.
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Crap...I do have a digital camera but it uses XD cards they are of different shape than SD's. I'll try to find someone with a SD capable digital camera.
Thanks.
Ok looks like my dad has a SD camera one problem though it is some ancient device it's not SDHC capable. Will it work and if it will, won't I waste my card in some way?
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Crap...I do have a digital camera but it uses XD cards they are of different shape than SD's. I'll try to find someone with a SD capable digital camera.
Thanks.
Ok looks like my dad has a SD camera one problem though it is some ancient device it's not SDHC capable. Will it work and if it will, won't I waste my card in some way?
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Will need to be SDHC compatable and as i say i can't be sure every camera will work, just did for me but if your going to have ti exchange it or it's duff then whats the risk?
Sounded like last ditch efforts to me
to bad ther is no followup on this matter, but i would advise a digital camera to. it always helped me out. lowlevel format on a nikkon dslr!
Have you tried this little baby.... http://www.cnetx.com/format/download.asp
The trial allows you to format without purchasing, but it's worth buying for the next time it happens - I was stuck with all other programs not working until this one.
Good luck.
Ps. Sorry if it doesn't work and I get your hopes up!!
Had a similar problem 2 days ago with my micro SD SanDisk Class 2 8Gb that I use on my HD. Became corrupted after trying to erase some movies while connected to my PS3.
Tried this: www[dot]sdcard[dot]org/consumers/formatter [didn't work: Micro SD write protected]
Tried GParted on Ubuntu, didn't work!
Tried MiniTool Partition Wizard and other XP formatting tools, didn't work!
Tried formatting with the SD inside the Blackstone and connected to PC, didn't work!
Got VERY frustrated and bought a new cheap micro SD 8Gb class 6+adaptor [1300Yen, about 15Eur]
Now I followed the Digital camera trick, and formatted the corrupted microSD in less than 5 sec!!!
I think it doesn't matter what phone you use the SD in, any relatively recent digital camera will do the trick for you.
THANK YOU
I ported the complete registry entries from HTC Fuze to HTC Shift filling all the missing keys in Shift regarding BT, WiFi, SD and USB. This did not change the functionality of WM at all, i.e. it did not recognize any of those except the USB for ActiveSync, which is normal. No strange behavior. I compared the dlls that are references like SDMemory, btfsd, encfilt etc. They are similar. Now I wonder these things may be hardwired to the main MB instead of the WM side and WM is a daughter to MB something like a modem card. I may be wrong also. I am not giving up. I want to explore if I could use BT, WiFi and SD if vista is turned on. I know we could use SD Card as a network storage using totalcommander or any other tool if vista is turned on, but I want to use it as a local storage instead of network storage. I will keep you posted.
--Ram--
Gospeed to your work !
(Title should read: Godspeed to your work)
If anyone knows the address of one of the senior HTC engineers responsible for designing the HTC Shift,
we could then simply hold the guy hostage until he reveals his secrets.
Or maybe we can offer a bribe first, it would ease logistics of the operation.
Darn, our hybrid needs just a few more tweaks (SD,BT) to make it
reach it's full potential.
If the EC bridge controller is only powered when vista is active... we might
need some X-Box and/or PS hackers to take a look at the big picture.
lucid said:
(Title should read: Godspeed to your work)
we could then simply hold the guy hostage until he reveals his secrets.
I like this idea much better than bribing.
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If you discover any way to derivate the EC, tell me and Iùll investigate with you (even if I'm crawling under work now )
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If you discover any way to derivate the EC, tell me and Iùll investigate with you (even if I'm crawling under work now )
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Sure, I will do that.
bios
a good thing to have ...
is a fully functional bios ...
we could see a lot and set a lot ...
Solding
I, for one, would be willing to solder a SDHC card straigt onto the WM MB.
If someone could point out the right place and contacts...
I know I might ruin the WM side, but I'm not using it much anyway, and I can acces internet via bluetooth and my phone, so... I'd be willing to risk it...
But hey,.... I'm crazy
HTC Debug tool
Has any one tried the HTC debug tool - BT test module on HTC Shift !!
BT test attached here
good idea, to soldering a SD Card on wm side. but without a hardware engineer how know where you must soldering.. And maybe you must enable that on MS7xxx Processor ?
Hello,
i've got a new (used) mteor, with the original operating system (WM5.0). I've put into it a 4gb micro SD, but the phone does not recognize it. The card came straight out of my TyTnII, and worked fine there.
Question: does the mteor have a size limit on card capacities?
thanks.
official SD driver in MTeoR doesn't support SDHC (4GB and higher) cards.
Moreover, WM5 is not designed for SDHC either.
SDHC support had been appeared with WM6. But special SD host driver comatible with SDHC should be supplied by manufacturer. HTC didn't that for MTeoR.
There is some SDHC package for MTeoR is floating around, but it's very buggy - SDHC card disappears after sleep and requires reinsertion.
In the meantime, i've wrote my own SDHC driver for MTeoR, but it's only for my personal use.
Thanks for the response.
If i understand correctly, in WM6.1 there is a chance that this memory card will work?
I've been thinking about putting another Rom on this phone, but am a bit hesitant. I've done it on several other phones (TytnII, Neo, etc.), but have become a bit hesitant. Sometimes the new Roms become "sticky", i.e. slow.
So the question for me is, are the available newer Roms for the mteor ok? Do they run without major issues? And, which one would you recommend for relatively stable running, not "playing", if you know what i mean?
I'm just asking for an opinion, nothing else.
You do not plan to share your driver with the community?