hello everyone!
since two weeks, i am theproud owner of my first pocket pc, a HTC Blue Angel!
i am now running wm2003, but after reading all those posts about upgrading, i am starting to think about doing so myself! but why should i do this?
what are the big advatages of wm2005 compared to wm2003?
are there disadvantages as well? (regarding stability and bugs?)
i would be really glad if yome of the more experienced ba users here could write down their pros & cons for running WM5/WM3 on the BA!
btw: i read thru xplode's upgrading guide (Guide.pdf) and in the end ("side notes") it says, that i could totally screw my ba when i exceed free sectors of the rom while cooking.... what excactly does this mean? and how can i avoid exceeding free sectors?
I am really looking forward to read your opinions about the two os...
THX IN ADVANCE!
krztf
I would definately go for wm5
main reason is the different memory handling
(no more lose of data after battery runs down)
Just download one of the ready made roms versions.
(as I understand, you are not ready to cook your own rom)
and be sure to read the wiki first
(and this post: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=243732 )
happy flashing
Wout
I could tell you this, my biggest reason to flash my BA to Wm05 because it has a better UI. N my 2nd biggest reason is because a lot of new programs written for wm05
Anyway if you afraid to brick your BA, I suggest you read carefully the wiki n don't use kitchen Rom, just use another rom that already cook by someone else. You could use Rom made by baniaczek or xplode.
I hoped it helps.
Well how should i say... i dont believe anyone here is still using 2003. Would this be enough for you? Try it, if you dont like it, downgrade back to 2003.
WM5 on Blue Angel is nice. But xplode rom and baniaczek rom are not really stable at the moment.
Tried both rom both got different problems... so I recommend you to wait for final release WM5 rom for BA thats free of bug.(Would it happen?)
Else if you wanted to try, you can try upgrading it... its really nice
Main reason is 60mb free ram..
and no more memory lost after battery going down
aha
thanks for all those answers!!!
but to be honest, i am still not sure if i should upgrade or not....
all those postings (here an din other threads) regarding pda overall speed, bluetooth and wifi problems, etc. make me kinda nervous! and i think, i am still anxious about frying my blue angel,... noobish but what can i do!
regarding the advantage of more free ram and no memory loss after battery's empty: is this really true?! always thought, i would need certain hardware as well, to benefit from this features...?
hope this discussion keeps goin'...
regards,krz
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Well how should i say... i dont believe anyone here is still using 2003. Would this be enough for you? Try it, if you dont like it, downgrade back to 2003.
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I'm using 2003se (rollback wm5->2003), because found some strange problems with baniachek's wm5 bluetooth profiles. ...
all the gory details ....
hi dasboot!
could you please describe those "strange problems"?
btw: does anyone know, if connecting to wlan routers works better with wm2005? as u can read in my other thread HERE, i have serious issues to solve here...
keep on posting!
krz
im rollbacked too.WM5 is nice looking..but for BA useless.
i found that WM3 work much better on it-and more important-the battery time:
wm5=max 8 hours,with mp3 6h
wm3=up to 16h with mp3.normal use 24/36h (older BA )
i use wlan only sometimes on hotspots-and only for e-mails.not a important criteria for me.
but,damn it..i would try out WM6 on it.suddenly it is unable to convert it to BA.
WM5 is not a software, it is one huge BAG!
wm5 is really good and I won't come back to wm2003. I have the R2 by baniaczeck and it works to me like a charm! I advice you to upgrade to wm5
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I'm just curious with all the WM5 buzz and such. Besides seeing "windows mobile 5" are there really any significant differences from WM2003se? Other than lack of software for WM5.
I've done massive amounts of flashing from video cards to motherboards so that's no problem, I'm not here to be a lazy bum and mooch software.
I will say that my 4 of my buddies work with MS mobile department here in STL, MO. They all live by wm2003se, and state WM5 won't be worth touching until next year. (Even for WM5 based phones unlike these)
My other question is for all the flash gods on this site. Out of all the current WM5 roms available here, what would you choose if :
Rarely use bluetooth
Play games
Watch video playback
basic phone services
no camera
no radio
I've 3 of these and would like to compare a couple side by side to see the benchmarks with these user-created roms vs 2003se
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I'm just curious with all the WM5 buzz and such. Besides seeing "windows mobile 5" are there really any significant differences from WM2003se? Other than lack of software for WM5.
I've done massive amounts of flashing from video cards to motherboards so that's no problem, I'm not here to be a lazy bum and mooch software.
I will say that my 4 of my buddies work with MS mobile department here in STL, MO. They all live by wm2003se, and state WM5 won't be worth touching until next year. (Even for WM5 based phones unlike these)
My other question is for all the flash gods on this site. Out of all the current WM5 roms available here, what would you choose if :
Rarely use bluetooth
Play games
Watch video playback
basic phone services
no camera
no radio
I've 3 of these and only use them for that Unfortunately hah.. :roll:
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Of couse your buddirs live with 2003 because there are no wm5 for BA , we had here base on text rom by HTC which came from last year and a lot of people in here to made it work like Universal or Wizard,you can ask your buddies maybe they dont had wm5 rom for BA. :wink: :wink:
I dont think anyone in MS or HTC will make wm5 rom for BA , if you had buddies why you not ask them about AKU3.0 rom for Universal and Wizard ?
haha do what
We're very Close friends of 14yrs fortunately. We have no loyalty to your boy Billy Gates, Sorry dude hah. I'm sure they are not just trying to get me to buy WM5 products haha
I just like to see forums and the modifed MS WM5 stacks (tisk tisk ) and actually benchmark/test to see who knows what, or who's just throwing something out
As for the other modifed roms you're speaking of, Sell and upgrade to faster model
a QVGA to VGA is like going from radio wave cable to high-definition formatting.
Yo
I will say that MS would be lucky to have any of these developers working for them, cheers to you all!
@mwang, if they are working in the dev department i see no reason why they couldn't be making thier statement based on other wm5 devices, or even have these roms theirselves. Anyway, right now i would go with either ivan's or helmi's. If you try antyhing else you will see why.
I'd totally agree with the above...
Ivan's (or thingonasprings version with the RAMdisk) for speed and basic stability
helmi_c's as it has the new AKU2.3 base with Push Mail etc (but still in dev stage so not 'meant' to be as stable, although I've had no issues as yet!)
I've also found TuMa 1.4 very good, but mainly as I use the BT functionality quite a bit which hasn't ben sorted on the newer ROM's yet.
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@mwang, if they are working in the dev department i see no reason why they couldn't be making thier statement based on other wm5 devices, or even have these roms theirselves. Anyway, right now i would go with either ivan's or helmi's. If you try antyhing else you will see why.
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remember the BA already disconnetion from HTC that's why they dont want to make BA for WM5 , bepe and me working with AKU3 for BA , bepe already made text rom for Himayala he post today,I will try anything I can to make life easy
Hi,
I know that ROM images are not hosted on this website no more because of ms, but I'd like to know where I can get the helmi 1.3.2 rom image.
I'd like this image because I had this rom before and I pretty much like all of it and would like to switch back to this.
If someone has this and or more roms please let me know.
thanks
Yeah.. it's a biatch trying to find the roms now that MS have stuck their nose in.
Did helmi get around to releasing his 1.5? (edit.. hmmm... still seems to be 1.4 b... further optimising, keep it up helmi, if I ever ug to wm5 it'll certainly be your rom I'll use.)
Someone Walkin' said:
Yeah.. it's a biatch trying to find the roms now that MS have stuck their nose in.
Did helmi get around to releasing his 1.5? (edit.. hmmm... still seems to be 1.4 b... further optimising, keep it up helmi, if I ever ug to wm5 it'll certainly be your rom I'll use.)
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maybe [ this help?]
i took it from here:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Helmi
Unfortunately it's not there any more.
The xda devs had to remove their rom library from the server.
So we're all kinda playing hide and seek with the roms.
well, we can grab the name that was used there, and try to find on emule
Well so far I've found this.
http://www.demonoid.com/files/details/1053302/?show_files=1&page=1&ref=1178474295#file_list
(Confirmed.. It has Helmi's 1.4 and xplode beta r1 plus a WHOLE lot more. )
And helmi's 1.4 on it's own.
http://www.demonoid.com/files/details/1042770/3099382/
great, nothing is lost for ever
Many people made mirror of XDA FTP server. In any case I keep copy for my own use, if anybody need any ROMs (not only BA).
That's really good to know.. if I need something I'll pm you (if you don't mind. )
One question though... what's the latest most stable and functional wm2003se rom that you have (Xda IIs).
Thx.
for me WM2003 cannot be called stable, especially compared to wm5 for BA. Last wm2003 I used was one of the v1.40 from Imate and it was acceptable, but still ANY WM5 was much more stable.
does upgrading a cingular 8125 to WM6 worth it?
What are the diferences that you get?
Dont you loose some performance upgrading to WM6 on cingular 8125?
Thanks
I've only updated a couple of days ago, and tried out 3 or 4 diferente ROM's.
I can tell you that the performance is great, better than using WM5.
The rest, you can choose, and try.
Only then can you see if it's worth.
I've been running WM6 ROMs on my 8125 ever since the first one was leaked here on xda. I can tell you -- without a doubt -- there's NO WAY I'd ever go back to WM5.
The device is MUCH more responsive and snappier than it was with WM5. I can't think of more than a couple of times in the past 4 months that I've had it freeze up or hang when running apps.
There's plenty of WM6 ROMs in the Wizard Mobile 6 forum. Just take a look at each one and see what it has to offer. No one particular ROM will satisfy everybody, as each person has their own likes and dislikes. Just read the entire thread for the ROMs you're considering to see if it's the one for you.
I upgraded to WM6 and shortly after: Back again to WM5.
I think you don't really need WM6 because there are only little improvements to WM5. The Speed-up is the same as after a normal Hard-Reset, what is often said here is maybe a "feeled" speed up, it's everything but objective.
What you get from the "cooked" WM6 versions, you can find here, is a different software equipment, which in some cases really can be interesting. But if you really need some, you can install it on your WM5 aswell.
I think you should try and decide by yourself. It's the only way to get a good answer.
I also was running WM6 and am now going back to 5. It was nice, but I had a lot of missed calls as well as bluetooth problems. Try it out for yourself and see if you like it.
wm6
just like newbie I'm using wm6 since then.
only went back one time to wm5 cause i messed up my wizard and wanted to start from scratch.
the speed is tremendously faster than with wm5
about the mentioned missed calls, did not occur to me as yet.
Is it possible? The stats on HTC's site says it's got an MSM 7200 400mhz proc in addition to the Stealy proc. If that is possible I'd consider getting one.
This issue has been addressed in significant detail on this site already. As a consideration to others, please use search or review the other posts.
Yes I did eventually see that. I apologize. But it's nowhere in the "Upgrading" section.
Hi I really want one!
I´m just afraid to order one and then find out that I can´t have full WM6 on it .... (for whatever reason...)
So, Any luck yet?
Did someone find out how to install and run other programs?
greetz,
Pfeffa-rah
its possible. im working with paul from modaco.com on it and this thing is locked down super tight. only hope is getting vista to see snapvue. all other ways are blocked.
i could do a rom for it if u guys want once its unlocked. unlocking full wm6 though might mean a device in my hands. im trying real hard to unlock it without one though. ask paul from modaco. working with him constantly on it and wow is this thing a pain.
Excellent - But is there an Intermediate step?
It is excellent that movement is afoot to overcome the crazy situation with SnapVue (of course I, like many Australians, still await the HTC Shift).
Of course WM6 would be excellent, but is there an intermediate step? Just getting SnapVue to talk to Outlook on Vista would probably do me fine given that my primary use for WM6 (or WM5 and older) has been outlook based ...
Oh, OK, and the use of WiFi, and the ability to look at documents and the internet would be good.
Anyway, I hope that those looking into this figure it out, as after all I never would be able to. Good luck.
pls where can i find info on upgrading to full blown win 6 for shift
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pls where can i find info on upgrading to full blown win 6 for shift
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Well, you've come to the right place. Now all you have to do is use your eyes...
Ok, im not really to new to this forum ive been using different roms i got from here on my wing(herald) which is running "OTP v6.5 Biggy.nbh". But, my question is i just bought a wizard for my gf and she really likes the operation system set up on my wing. Is the .nbh file im using on my wing usable on the wizard like do i just change it out of my herald ruu program drop it in the wizards and load flash away? thats what im gathering from reading but, i just would like to make sure. oh and btw its a g3 cid unlocked and ready to flash. Thanks in advance for any help
In short, probably, since Windows Mobile is essentialy the same software, regardless of the platform that it is on. In long, I personally wouldnt do it. While the Wing and the Wizard are essential the same spec wise, they are not identical hardware wise, which in my opinion would spell diasaster for you if you try to flash a Wing ROM to the Wizard or vice-versa. We have many different WinMo 6.1 flavors for download here, and im sure that one of them would be too your liking. Please my friend, dont sacrifice a Wizard for experimentation!
Personally, I would try the latest TNT build(20237 I think), its very fast, and WinMo 6.1, and the latest build to boot!
Hope that helps!
In short, probably, since Windows Mobile is essentialy the same software, regardless of the platform that it is on. In long, I personally wouldnt do it. While the Wing and the Wizard are essential the same spec wise, they are not identical hardware wise, which in my opinion would spell diasaster for you if you try to flash a Wing ROM to the Wizard or vice-versa. We have many different WinMo 6.1 flavors for download here, and im sure that one of them would be too your liking. Please my friend, dont sacrifice a Wizard for experimentation!
Personally, I would try the latest TNT build(20237 I think), its very fast, and WinMo 6.1, and the latest build to boot!
Hope that helps!
EDIT-Gahh, dunno what happened, but I double posted by accident! Can a mod please remove this? (and not use the temp. ban hammer?)
That is some good advice. I was also kinda wondering about this kind of thing and just happened to come accross your post.
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In short, probably, since Windows Mobile is essentialy the same software, regardless of the platform that it is on. In long, I personally wouldnt do it. While the Wing and the Wizard are essential the same spec wise, they are not identical hardware wise, which in my opinion would spell diasaster for you if you try to flash a Wing ROM to the Wizard or vice-versa. We have many different WinMo 6.1 flavors for download here, and im sure that one of them would be too your liking. Please my friend, dont sacrifice a Wizard for experimentation!
Personally, I would try the latest TNT build(20237 I think), its very fast, and WinMo 6.1, and the latest build to boot!
Hope that helps!
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Thanks for the reply! Yea, i think ill just find one here. I dont wanna brick it im really looking for a stable 6.1 touch diamond build.Imma try those out and she how she likes em! Thanks again. i so thought i was gonna get flamed lol
Heh, perhaps by another member...but not from me! I try not to flame people asking innocent questions like that, now crap that is in the FAQ or something...THATS WHEN THE FLAMING BEGINS!! heh, but yeah, the latest TNT is indeed based off of the Touch Diamond ROM thats been floating around, so you are good to go there.
@hotrod101, glad I could be of service!