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new and seeking advice

Hello,
I've been reading up on the kaiser for a little while now and think the specs are amazing.
I've been meaning to get a new phone for a while now, upgrade from my samsung e715. I'm thinking about getting the t-mobile wing as a replacement.
I was wondering if this is a feasible idea, I mean, with the possibility of at&t getting the kaiser, should I wait for that to unlock it?
Will T-mobile be getting a nicer/better version of the p4550 when/if there 3G network goes up?
Just seeking some input, and any would be much appreciated. Thank you

Yea... upgrade! WM will be a bit of a shock to you, it's quite different than what you're used to in terms of mobile telephony. The Kaiser would be a great piece of technology for anyone to own, however the price tag may not be everyone's cup of tea. Personally I plan to get an unlocked one for some 800 dollars. ATT may offer it for 500 with 2 year plan. As for unlocking, if you have international travel ahead of you in a near future then I believe there is a SIM unlock solution already. If not, I wouldn't worry about it until you need it unlocked.

oh well i was thinking of buying the at&t 8925 and unlocking and using on t-mobile. I don't know if it will be capable of syncing with T-mobile's 3G when they have it up and running, like what band they use and whatnot.

lemonhead said:
oh well i was thinking of buying the at&t 8925 and unlocking and using on t-mobile. I don't know if it will be capable of syncing with T-mobile's 3G when they have it up and running, like what band they use and whatnot.
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if i were you i wouldnt get the wing. its too slow, plus on a lot of them theres a memory problems. i used to have t-mobile but when i switched to cingular i found out they're much better and the signal is much better. also you get more minutes for the same price t-mobile offers.
so right now i have a t-mobile sda unlocked for cingular, just waiting for the kaiser. I dont know how long it will take before there is a Kaiser Sim unlock utility, so you can either get an unlocked htc kaiser or the AT&T Tilt (their calling the 8925 that now) and wait for a sim unlock utility.

think it would work on the t-mobile 3g network? on the 1700 band?

Looking into buying a Kaiser

and wondering if i should go the pre-unlocked route.
my t-mobile mda is aging. gracefully yes, but still. one of the main reasons i got it was for the mobile pc idea and it has worked wonderfully but i must admit the built-in gps in the kaiser is a selling point. so...
i am going to keep my t-mobile account/etc and was wondering if i bought an unlocked phone and popped in my sim card would i be good to go as far as the radio bands? t-mobile has yet to roll out its 3G network at any significant rate here in florida and i heard rumors that their 3G freq was not the global standard (fcc issues or somesuch).
the kaiser i read does 3G and 3.5G as well as the GSM bands and tmobile has GSM now, so i am wondering if i am shooting myself in the wallet for a phone that might not work on the right freq once the t-mobile 3G comes online.
any thoughts or places i can check on this? i have done the google dance and i come upon rumor after rumor (most 1+ years old). so any hard info would be appreciated.
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Do a search in this forum and you will be loaded with all kinds of info that your looking for.
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i did and did not find the info i am looking for. lots of stuff for tmobile in the uk. lots of att stuff for the us. not a whole lot of reliable info for the tmobile in the us with unlocked kaiser (unbranded). i did call tmobile to find out about what 3G freq they are using in my area and the response was "we dont give out that information as of yet." very helpful indeed. but he did say that they have a 3G phone out now/soon (he couldnt say...again) that is a slider phone but no windows mobile. i think its a motorola something or other. not my bag.
so i guess i will sit on my mda.
wergeld

Tmobile 3G in NYC settings?

I am running Dutty's 6.1 Hybrid Rom and don't seem to be picking up the new 3G network in NYC.
I know in the UK there is a username and password. Does anyone know if that is the case in the US?
Also, I have the $5.99 plan, not the full blown $19.99 a month deal.....
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Suggestions....
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Call T-mob tech support.

I just noticed that in the phone>settings>band that UMTS 1700 is not an option....
The phone's wiki says it supports it, is this a 'feature' in the Rom?

Kaiser doesn't support the US T-Mobile 3g band.

From the wiki
UMTS 1700 (Emobile-only)
What does Emobile-only mean?

T-Mobile US 3G uses AWS 1700, so you're out of luck on trying to get a kaiser to work on the newly launched T-Mobile 3G. As of this date, there are no smartphones released that will work on the T-Mobile US 3G.
Emobile is (I believe) a Japanese carrier.

ok first i think AT&T users have an issue with T-Mobile users cuz T-Mobile provides 3G on the 2100 band.
Second there was a claim in this forum somewhere that he was getting 3G signal on T-Mobile in Boston.
T-Mobile users if you get 3G connection please talk. AT&T users without T-Mobile service shush.

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ok first i think AT&T users have an issue with T-Mobile users cuz T-Mobile provides 3G on the 2100 band.
Second there was a claim in this forum somewhere that he was getting 3G signal on T-Mobile in Boston.
T-Mobile users if you get 3G connection please talk. AT&T users without T-Mobile service shush.
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Why would AT&T users have an issue if T-Mobile users are able to utilize 3g or not?

sangwich said:
ok first i think AT&T users have an issue with T-Mobile users cuz T-Mobile provides 3G on the 2100 band.
Second there was a claim in this forum somewhere that he was getting 3G signal on T-Mobile in Boston.
T-Mobile users if you get 3G connection please talk. AT&T users without T-Mobile service shush.
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This attitude will get you nowhere other than ignored. Don't make the assumption that just because someone uses AT&T, they are automatically wrong when it comes to other networks.
Anyone with real intelligence would just go to a T-Mobile store in NYC, find a phone that supports 3G, and look at the Band settings page to see which frequency it is running on.
As for the 3G guy in Boston, it is quite possible that a hiccup in the network caused him to jump on to an AT&T tower momentarily.

I think the At&t, lack of 3G issue is related to iPhones, regardless it is silly.
If anything people should argue the cost and terms of their contracts (in the US anyway.)

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This attitude will get you nowhere other than ignored. Don't make the assumption that just because someone uses AT&T, they are automatically wrong when it comes to other networks.
Anyone with real intelligence would just go to a T-Mobile store in NYC, find a phone that supports 3G, and look at the Band settings page to see which frequency it is running on.
As for the 3G guy in Boston, it is quite possible that a hiccup in the network caused him to jump on to an AT&T tower momentarily.
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well i apologize if my comment offended you but you shouldn't assume that i assume that someone using AT&T service is automatically wrong.
If you're trying to say I have no real intelligence, every T-Mobile store I've seen in Queens and Manhattan has dummy phones on display. There is no way to check the settings myself. I can ask the salesman or call CS.
Anyways 3G on T-Mobile isn't just on 1700Mhz. Its also on 2100Mhz
you may be right that the dude in boston jump on to an AT&T tower for a while. but you can be wrong cuz you don't know the details to T-Mobile 3G service. or maybe he didn't have a tilt and had the kaiser/tynt II from europe.

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well i apologize if my comment offended you but you shouldn't assume that i assume that someone using AT&T service is automatically wrong.
If you're trying to say I have no real intelligence, every T-Mobile store I've seen in Queens and Manhattan has dummy phones on display. There is no way to check the settings myself. I can ask the salesman or call CS.
Anyways 3G on T-Mobile isn't just on 1700Mhz. Its also on 2100Mhz
you may be right that the dude in boston jump on to an AT&T tower for a while. but you can be wrong cuz you don't know the details to T-Mobile 3G service. or maybe he didn't have a tilt and had the kaiser/tynt II from europe.
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Right because the tytn II is a completely different device than the tilt...
You need to research how the signals operate and why it utilizes two frequencies and maybe, just maybe, you'll stop making an ass of yourself.

CUSTEL said:
Right because the tytn II is a completely different device than the tilt...
You need to research how the signals operate and why it utilizes two frequencies and maybe, just maybe, you'll stop making an ass of yourself.
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well someone else in the forum mentioned the euro version has different band settings with a different frequency that works with the US T-Mobile 3G network.
jesus you people are way too sensitive.

sangwich said:
well someone else in the forum mentioned the euro version has different band settings with a different frequency that works with the US T-Mobile 3G network.
jesus you people are way too sensitive.
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Maybe you're just way too dumb?

smh... im just repeating what other people say in this forum.
you just got too must estrogen running in your system.

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im just repeating what other people say in this forum.
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Ah, the "Oh, well, I heard it from so-and-so, which means it it ain't MY fault if I'm wrong" excuse.

edgie168 said:
Ah, the "Oh, well, I heard it from so-and-so, which means it it ain't MY fault if I'm wrong" excuse.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=389944 last post asshole.

So T-Mobile is such a ghetto-fabulous company that they don't even give you live demos to play with? I mean even Sprint, who Deutsche Telekom is considering buying, gives you live phones to play with.

I'm not sure why my post was deleted, but I'm the guy from boston that posted about my phone jumping to 3g. The reason I posted was because this past friday night(May 2nd 2008), at around 11:30pm, the icon on my phone jumped to 3g. Normally, this only happens for a second, then the carrier info will say AT&T 3G, then I get no service. However, this time, the icon said 3G, and my carrier info still said T-mobile. It stayed that way for about 45 minutes or so.
I'm using an unlocked at&t tilt and a WM6.1 Rom from xda (I don't remember which one, but it's very light - as in, light on crap and unused features)

InGeNeTiCs said:
I'm not sure why my post was deleted, but I'm the guy from boston that posted about my phone jumping to 3g. The reason I posted was because this past friday night(May 2nd 2008), at around 11:30pm, the icon on my phone jumped to 3g. Normally, this only happens for a second, then the carrier info will say AT&T 3G, then I get no service. However, this time, the icon said 3G, and my carrier info still said T-mobile. It stayed that way for about 45 minutes or so.
I'm using an unlocked at&t tilt and a WM6.1 Rom from xda (I don't remember which one, but it's very light - as in, light on crap and unused features)
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So it would be safe to say your tilt jumped on TMO 3g 2100 freq. WOW!!!

Diamond Now on Sprint?

I'm starting to see Diamonds for sale on Ebay. If I were to purchase one now, would it work on Sprint, even though they have not officially released it yet? Also, any reason to wait for the rumored Raphael; is it better?
Anybody switch to Diamond from Mogul; is it much better?
Thanks for your thoughts.

The diamonds you see is most likely unlocked, and can be used in any network you like.. I have no clue where in this world you reside, but US beware! No quad-band.

I'm in USA, so are you saying do not buy? Thanks for your response.

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I'm in USA, so are you saying do not buy? Thanks for your response.
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Yes dont buy unless its an American version of the Diamond...the ones on ebay are all asian versions which means that it wont work on the 3G network in America as far as i know. Judging by past posts on here by American forum members...best you will get is either Edge or GPRS if your lucky.
The American version of the Diamond should be released in july/august...best off waiting till then i would say.

Whoa! There is a lot of untrue information floating around here. First of all, Sprint runs on a completely different network than the rest of the world. So while the phones you purchase on eBay are most likely unlocked, they still run on GSM bands, which means you will only be able to use it with either AT&T or T-Mobile in the states. (Sprint/Verizon run on CDMA bands.)
Additionally, as noted - these non-US versions of the Diamond are not quad-band, and they do not run on the 3G bands used here in the states. I have one and live in the Washington DC area. I get fairly consistent Edge speeds, and slightly more dropped calls than with a US-release phone. It's well worth it to have the most kick-ass phone currently available, but it is a sacrifice nonetheless. Of course, depending on your geographic region, you may have more or less luck.
Finally, on a personal opinion note... Get off Sprint. Phones like this are always released first for the rest of the world, and have to be made with radios specific to Sprint/Verizon for use on their networks, which is always going to trail widespread release by several months at least (if not a year or longer). By using AT&T or T-Mobile, you are going to have access to much greater equipment selections on a regular basis.

I, have the Diamond in New York on T-Mobile Network, and my Edge connection is pretty quick with Opera, and as far as calls after two weeks of use I have yet to experience a dropped call or bad reception. I know this is not the same case in every area, but the fact that this device will not work in the US is not entirely true except 3G.
*Note* Neither Sprint nor Verizon will work.

The current versions of Diamond is not CDMA version. So they will not work on any CDMA networks in the US. That includes but not limited to Sprint, Verizon, and US Cellular. They will however work in the US with T-Mobile and AT&T with Edge connection. According to the FCC filing, they will do the full announcement of Diamond in the US by August 13 and PCS 1900Mhz was mentioned in the pdfs. All photos and such can not be disclosed by FCC until Aug 13th.

T-Mobile Wideband LTE Thread

Post screenshots. As of now I don't think Wideband in Columbus, Ohio is live. My speeds are the same as before. What speeds should we be getting?
Anyone know the screen mode # for the flex to see the information?
I see this hidden menu option but not sure where to find if I'm on 15mhz.
*3845#*959# And don't want to mess my phone up. Lol
http://www.lg-phones.org/lg-g-flex-hidden-service-menu.html
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Hmmmmm i tried them numbers for Sprint and it didn't work but in your menu do you see lte engineering? I know for Sprint what i do is ##debug# takes me to a menu where i can see lte engineering and in there it would show which band your connected to.

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Hmmmmm i tried them numbers for Sprint and it didn't work but in your menu do you see lte engineering? I know for Sprint what i do is ##debug# takes me to a menu where i can see lte engineering and in there it would show which band your connected to.
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I looked and don't see that. Maybe I'll post all the options later. It's like 3 screen shots.
3845#*959# This is the hidden menu for T-Mobile. In the OP I had a * in front and was wondering why it didn't work. lol
For AT&T: Go to dialer and enter 3845#*950#
For Sprint: Go to dialer and enter 3845#*995#

39.51 down, 11.86 up, on VOLTE inside my house, outside of Chicago..

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39.51 down, 11.86 up, on VOLTE inside my house, outside of Chicago..
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Nice but do VOLTE has anything to do with your network speed? Thought VOLTE was voice over lte so you can talk on the phone while browsing the web using lte?

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Nice but do VOLTE has anything to do with your network speed? Thought VOLTE was voice over lte so you can talk on the phone while browsing the web using lte?
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Not sure if it does anything for speed, since I am usually on wifi, and dont pay alot of attention to OTA data speed..
If I recall, when I did some tests awhile ago, I never got more than 14-20 megs down, and 6-7 megs up while in my house.
I thought those speeds were acceptable.
T-Mobile has a fantastic network in my area, and I was very happy with their phone/data speeds and quality, even before these updates..

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Not sure if it does anything for speed, since I am usually on wifi, and dont pay alot of attention to OTA data speed..
If I recall, when I did some tests awhile ago, I never got more than 14-20 megs down, and 6-7 megs up while in my house.
I thought those speeds were acceptable.
T-Mobile has a fantastic network in my area, and I was very happy with their phone/data speeds and quality, even before these updates..
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Yea i just did a google search and basically VOLTE really doesn't improve network speeds either T-Mobile updated something through that update or probably the tower around you got a small upgrade. I'm on sprint and i can't complain much as to they are really improving their network and trying to get everywhere covered here's some speeds of mine on sprint.

wow, where are you located?
before I came to Tmobile in February, I was a Sprint user for many years, and, I never had many problems with their network, although the data speeds were horrible.
when they announced the "new" network last year, I was excited that Chicago was one of the first cities to be upgraded; however, once the "upgrade" started, the network was horrific for me; we couldnt make phone calls from our house, data/calls would drop everywhere, and even with an AirRave, their service went from OK to unusable for me. Fortunately, Tmobile announced their program to pay your cancellation fees and such at that time, so we switched to TMO, and have had fantastic service from Day one.
I hated to leave Sprint after all those years, and especially when there was this promise of their great "new" network, so I am amazed to see you have such fantastic speeds and good call quality with them now.

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wow, where are you located?
before I came to Tmobile in February, I was a Sprint user for many years, and, I never had many problems with their network, although the data speeds were horrible.
when they announced the "new" network last year, I was excited that Chicago was one of the first cities to be upgraded; however, once the "upgrade" started, the network was horrific for me; we couldnt make phone calls from our house, data/calls would drop everywhere, and even with an AirRave, their service went from OK to unusable for me. Fortunately, Tmobile announced their program to pay your cancellation fees and such at that time, so we switched to TMO, and have had fantastic service from Day one.
I hated to leave Sprint after all those years, and especially when there was this promise of their great "new" network, so I am amazed to see you have such fantastic speeds and good call quality with them now.
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I'm located in Miami and before having a sprint spark phone i had the note 2 which was really struggling on the band 25 network, i too was considering leaving them for T-Mobile but when the flex came out i went to the store to check it out and ran some speed test while i was there and i was amazed by sprint spark new bands so i decided to stay but I'm pretty sure Chicago should be good now or atleast picking up, sprint choose the best route in upgrading their network so it's really going to pay off when they are complete.

Stay on topic please both of you. Hehe j/k.
I left Sprint after 14 years for T-Mobile a little over a year ago. It's kind of funny how Sprint and T-Mobile switched roles at least in some places. T-Mobile use to suck but now Sprint does. I'm really surprised how quick T-Mobile improved the network. I thought Softbank would turn Sprint around quickly but that didn't happen. Now if the Sprint/Tmobile merger happens I don't see that being a good thing. If it does happen I'll probably go to AT&T.
I get around 20mbps with T-Mobile and that's more then enough for me. I'm running a lot of speed test waiting for the Wideband LTE to be active though. Lol

Man those Spark speeds from Sprint are insane! Honestly if Sprint could roll those numbers out for majority of consumers, I'd all be for the merger, lol!

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Man those Spark speeds from Sprint are insane! Honestly if Sprint could roll those numbers out for majority of consumers, I'd all be for the merger, lol!
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I was more shocked when i ran the app and got these results when i'm usually averaging between 25~40mbps. I would like the merger to happen because it will actually give them a chance to compete against the big 2 major carrier especially with their prices.

I cant imagine that with the hundreds of millions they have both spent recently to upgrade their networks, their networks beings incompatible with each other, that there will ever be a merger between these 2..would the "merged" company be GSM or CDMA? Would they have spent 100's of millions to upgrade their incompatible networks, if a merger was in the works?
Doesn't make any sense, but who knows..

Sprint is taking years upgrading it's network even with Sotfbanks $. T-Mobile upgraded the network in a year. I really don't see prices going down if the merger happens. If anything they would go up. I'm just shocked Hesse still has a job. I do want to see Sprint turn things around though.

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Sprint is taking years upgrading it's network even with Sotfbanks $. T-Mobile upgraded the network in a year. I really don't see prices going down if the merger happens. If anything they would go up. I'm just shocked Hesse still has a job. I do want to see Sprint turn things around though.
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Well you see that's where you don't know the difference the reason they're taking longer is the direction they went by also changing the whole equipment base etc at each site which are going to pay off in the long run tmobile isn't doing that they just upgrading their speed and such that's why they are finishing way quicker which is going to hurt them later on in the future when they really realize that it would have to replace almost all the equipment in that base site which will lead to problems like customer calling and complaining about the issue they are having with their service and such basically its going to be a deja vu all over again.

Here's what I'm seeing in Birmingham, Alabama. War Eagle !
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Well you see that's where you don't know the difference the reason they're taking longer is the direction they went by also changing the whole equipment base etc at each site which are going to pay off in the long run tmobile isn't doing that they just upgrading their speed and such that's why they are finishing way quicker which is going to hurt them later on in the future when they really realize that it would have to replace almost all the equipment in that base site which will lead to problems like customer calling and complaining about the issue they are having with their service and such basically its going to be a deja vu all over again.
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Dude take off your Sprint blinders. lol I was with Sprint for 14 years and had so many phones I've lost track. lol My point is I know what's going on in the wireless industry. Sprint is taking years to upgrade the network because they keep making bad decisions. Clearwire was a bust. WiMAX was a bust. LightSquared deal was a bust too – granted, that one wasn't really Sprint’s fault. Oh and the big Nextel mistake. Sprints history shows an inability to pick a winner. The only customers calling to complain are Sprints. I feel bad for Sprint customers when Hesse says "just wait for the network of your dreams". lmao They have been waiting for years. Sprint should be giving them a credit since some can't even watch a youtube video. I was one a year ago and Sprint said all 4 of my phones were defective. lol They offered me a one time $5 credit. I laughed then hung up the phone and went to T-Mobile. Then Sprint comes out with Framily. lol I think that's so stupid. I don't want to have recruit strangers and then worry about them paying the bill on time so my bill doesn't change.
T-Mobile has expanded Wideband LTE into 16 total markets, giving all T-Mobile LTE devices a speed boost with capable peak network download speeds up to nearly 150 Mbps. In January T-Mobile bought a swath of unused spectrum from Verizon Wireless for $3.3 billion that will help expand its coverage to more regions outside of the metropolitan areas.
I really hope the merger doesn't happen because T-Mobile is hot and Sprint will just cool them off. lol Hopefully T-Mobile can get another 3 billion for the failed deal like what happened with AT&T. No one can predict the future as far as you saying T-Mobile will go through what Sprint is going through now. Good thing is I'm not in a contract. Hopefully Sprint can turn things around and fix the bad image they have now. No one can deny, 2013 was T-Mobile’s year.
Report: T-Mobile best, Sprint worst carrier in KC
http://m.bizjournals.com/kansascity...e-best-sprint-worst-carrier-in-kc.html?r=full

Seems like I read somewhere that as of Jan 1st 2014 T-Mobile opened up 75,000 new towers in North America, supporting 4g LTE. I had Verizon for years then went to AT&T for about 6 months and now on T-Mobile. Verizon did have the best coverage of 4g lte , at&t was OK but I always had to fight them about BS on my bill and overages. I had a GS4 on AT&T during the 4.2 to 4.3 update, I was rooted with unlocked boot loader I couldn't take the OTA but that didn't stop them from sending the 592mb update 17 times one month and 22 times another month. Forcing me to have overages. I had to call and fight my way out of them both times. And if I didn't know as much as I do about android and our systems I couldn't have convinced the customer service MANAGER that that was what it was. Then after having issues with the network cust. Service told me they couldn't support or help me with my issue until I took the update. They said "Our tech support is trained to handle issues with 4.3" so I asked "what happened to the crew that was trained on 4.2, did you fire all of them?",
Long story short I left and got ETF paid by T-Mobile and got unlimited data again. I average 40-45 mBs download speeds and have had the best customer service experience with tmo.
And I love being able to use thus much data :

thats ALOT of Porno viewing, bro..:cyclops:
Agree with everything you said; Verizon is great if you travel for a living, but I dont do that anymore, so I only care what works in Chicago land; ATT was fine after they updated their network here a couple of years ago, but, their cust svc/tech support was lame at best, and after a brief try with Sprint, and their "Alleged" great new network, we decided our last hope was T-Mobile, and we love everything about them, for us, in Chicago land..
Great Customer service when we need them, great low pricing, great service in our area, and all issues are taken care of immediately, without a question or argument...We couldnt be happier with our cellular choices right now, and hope it stays this way for a long time..
We are moving to the Dallas area in a year or 2, so I hope their coverage is as good down there as it is up here..

I even bricked my first rooted g flex and took it to the T-Mobile store and for $5 shipping charge they sent me a brand new one not refurbished but new. The first one was only 3 weeks old.
The CEO and Head of Marketing are determined to make T-Mobile a monopoly and out to show other carriers it can be done better, faster, cheaper, and unlimited. Any company, mobile carrier or not, that does not take cues or adapt this mentality of business and customer care is run by morons.