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To all TMobile USA users and to pretty much and USA user

I just spoke to a very very knowledgable representative from TMobile USA maybe 10 minutes ago.
I first started asking about the TMobile MDA Vario III (or to most known, the Kaiser... i believe at least). After talking a little we got into quite a deep conversation, the first person from first tier support that wasnt an idiot WOW!
He informed me that he had heard that TMobile USA had purchaced the 1700mhz band for their new 3g network. That we would definately here more about the network this year but that they are waiting (to many stupid US laws...) for all current users to vacate this newly purchaces band.
Also he then informed me that anyone that would be either buying a Kaiser from Europe unlocked, or buying an AT&T 8925 (Kaiser) then getting it unlocked would have the likelihood of not having the full potential of their 3g netword on their phone. Also stated that when 1700 does become purchased and person currently owning the tmobile mda or the new tmobile wing would not be able to use the 3g networks.
Next he told me about how an htc rep had come into the office not to long ago and talked to him about their (htcs) phones. The htc rep informed him that they are currently working on a very very quick phone for TMobile USA, im guessing it is some sort of branch off from the Kaiser, but he had no information exactly about that.
I also asked him about the pricing of the monthly data connection. He said, "well all i know from experience is that when TMobile went from normal data speeds to the EDGE towers, the monthly price stayed the same."
Trying to think about what else.... hmmm. I'm guessing that is it, ask question if you can think about anything else... we talked on the phone for seriously 20-25 minutes... how blackberrys suck, how iphones are overated and only for fad following cheerleaders lol, just everything.

TMO is in big mess because governmental agencies are refusing to vacate the 1700MHz as quick as TMO wants ( Homeland security ). their 3G network will be delayed and their GSM net will suffer because they lack the spectrum. Their 3G testing in NJ/NY was halted because of inteference!!

Mog said:
I just spoke to a very very knowledgable representative from TMobile USA maybe 10 minutes ago.
I first started asking about the TMobile MDA Vario III (or to most known, the Kaiser... i believe at least). After talking a little we got into quite a deep conversation, the first person from first tier support that wasnt an idiot WOW!
He informed me that he had heard that TMobile USA had purchaced the 1700mhz band for their new 3g network. That we would definately here more about the network this year but that they are waiting (to many stupid US laws...) for all current users to vacate this newly purchaces band.
Also he then informed me that anyone that would be either buying a Kaiser from Europe unlocked, or buying an AT&T 8925 (Kaiser) then getting it unlocked would have the likelihood of not having the full potential of their 3g netword on their phone. Also stated that when 1700 does become purchased and person currently owning the tmobile mda or the new tmobile wing would not be able to use the 3g networks.
Next he told me about how an htc rep had come into the office not to long ago and talked to him about their (htcs) phones. The htc rep informed him that they are currently working on a very very quick phone for TMobile USA, im guessing it is some sort of branch off from the Kaiser, but he had no information exactly about that.
I also asked him about the pricing of the monthly data connection. He said, "well all i know from experience is that when TMobile went from normal data speeds to the EDGE towers, the monthly price stayed the same."
Trying to think about what else.... hmmm. I'm guessing that is it, ask question if you can think about anything else... we talked on the phone for seriously 20-25 minutes... how blackberrys suck, how iphones are overated and only for fad following cheerleaders lol, just everything.
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MDA and WING are not 3G phones. 1700 was won in a bidding about year and half ago.

yozh said:
MDA and WING are not 3G phones. 1700 was won in a bidding about year and half ago.
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correct it was won a year and a half ago. but there is some governmental law that says each user has 10 years to vacate that band 1700. its just a matter of time before tmobile starts paying people to get off their newly purchased network.
also about the comment of the mda and the wing... yes I know that they are not 3g compatable but I think there are quite a few 8525 unlocked tmobile users on this site like me. and I think there are quite a few that have tmobile that will be buying a phone (kaiser) soon that will cost a couple hundred dollars. I'm just here to warn them... this new phone may not even be able to work on the soon to be 3g network. just don't want people to waste their money.

Mog said:
this new phone may not even be able to work on the soon to be 3g network. just don't want people to waste their money.
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I can kinda attest to that myself...
A few years ago I purchased the wonderful Moto V525 unlocked and Voda branded. Popped in my Tmobile SIM and worked like a charm, with the exception of downloads. While on a tmobile branded V300 the same download would take say 30 seconds, in mine, by then unbranded and flashed a million times, would take maybe 20-30 seconds longer.
Granted, this is no indication of anything... I have a Tmobile branded Wizard that has been flashed to death with all kinds of home cooked releases and the EDGE speeds I get are just fine.

austin_boy said:
TMO is in big mess because governmental agencies are refusing to vacate the 1700MHz as quick as TMO wants ( Homeland security ). their 3G network will be delayed and their GSM net will suffer because they lack the spectrum. Their 3G testing in NJ/NY was halted because of inteference!!
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What an F..ing crock!
One government agency sells the spectrum, FCC and another will not vacate the freqs!? Yeeeeeeeesh!

haha yea... ditto
mmeyer4663 said:
What an F..ing crock!
One government agency sells the spectrum, FCC and another will not vacate the freqs!? Yeeeeeeeesh!
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yea bush admin are being assholes... crap... can we cuss in this forum? i forget...
but eh, its pretty stupid to me, the government themselves have the rules that current band users have 10 years, of course they are gonna leech on it as long as they can, or at least until this war is over... who am i kidding this war wont end til hes out of office lol.
lmfao look i found the count down, when tmobile will have full rights to their new band. HAHAHA!
http://www.howlonguntilbushisgone.com/

Mog said:
yea bush admin are being assholes... crap... can we cuss in this forum? i forget...
but eh, its pretty stupid to me, the government themselves have the rules that current band users have 10 years, of course they are gonna leech on it as long as they can, or at least until this war is over... who am i kidding this war wont end til hes out of office lol.
lmfao look i found the count down, when tmobile will have full rights to their new band. HAHAHA!
http://www.howlonguntilbushisgone.com/
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Yeah. Sorry about my tantrum.
I have to deal with the actions of the FCC all of the time. I work in the cableTV industry. Kevin Martin HATES us!
The FCC whines about monopolies, level playing field, innovation and all of the other FUN buzz words and then they pull a major (*@#&(*&#@(*&$ like this!
Really gripes my cookies!
And to all of the folks out there that want to give th government more control over their lives so that they don't have to deal with the challenges, let this kind of mis-management of resources be a lesson.
Ok, off the soapbox and back to the technology!

Mog said:
I just spoke to a very very knowledgable representative from TMobile USA maybe 10 minutes ago.
I first started asking about the TMobile MDA Vario III (or to most known, the Kaiser... i believe at least). After talking a little we got into quite a deep conversation, the first person from first tier support that wasnt an idiot WOW!
He informed me that he had heard that TMobile USA had purchaced the 1700mhz band for their new 3g network. That we would definately here more about the network this year but that they are waiting (to many stupid US laws...) for all current users to vacate this newly purchaces band.
Also he then informed me that anyone that would be either buying a Kaiser from Europe unlocked, or buying an AT&T 8925 (Kaiser) then getting it unlocked would have the likelihood of not having the full potential of their 3g netword on their phone. Also stated that when 1700 does become purchased and person currently owning the tmobile mda or the new tmobile wing would not be able to use the 3g networks.
Next he told me about how an htc rep had come into the office not to long ago and talked to him about their (htcs) phones. The htc rep informed him that they are currently working on a very very quick phone for TMobile USA, im guessing it is some sort of branch off from the Kaiser, but he had no information exactly about that.
I also asked him about the pricing of the monthly data connection. He said, "well all i know from experience is that when TMobile went from normal data speeds to the EDGE towers, the monthly price stayed the same."
Trying to think about what else.... hmmm. I'm guessing that is it, ask question if you can think about anything else... we talked on the phone for seriously 20-25 minutes... how blackberrys suck, how iphones are overated and only for fad following cheerleaders lol, just everything.
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this may not be right, but here on xda-developers, if you go to the htc titan section, they also refer it to the mogul, 6800, and vario III?
so the Vario III might not be the kaiser.

Totally incorrect

captainsensible2002 said:
Totally incorrect
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well i was just saying what i spoted here on the forum. should that be fixed then?

So any chance then that the Kaiser will support T-Mobile's [email protected]?

Mog said:
correct it was won a year and a half ago. but there is some governmental law that says each user has 10 years to vacate that band 1700. its just a matter of time before tmobile starts paying people to get off their newly purchased network.
also about the comment of the mda and the wing... yes I know that they are not 3g compatable but I think there are quite a few 8525 unlocked tmobile users on this site like me. and I think there are quite a few that have tmobile that will be buying a phone (kaiser) soon that will cost a couple hundred dollars. I'm just here to warn them... this new phone may not even be able to work on the soon to be 3g network. just don't want people to waste their money.
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Mog,
Since you mentioned Tmobile and unlock 8525, I was wondering what WM6 ROMs (Cooked or HTC Released) is the most stable, compatible with this network. I too have an AT&T 8525, SuperCID / SIM unlock that I use for Tmobile (USA) network. But all the stuff that I have read in most threads are optimize for AT&T.
Some folks in the UK who are using Tmobile suggested to go with WM6 cooked ROMs. But I know their network and ours are quite different. At first I thought if I purchased a Tmobile UK phone (838 PRO) and have it unlock, then it will be optimized for Tmobile USA network. But I found out that they're entirely different from one another.
I just wanted to know your feedback as well as other Tmobile users out there who uses 8525 or similar phone, which WM6 ROM would be best for our situation. Any input or feedback is greatly appreciated. Thanks all

DEADCENTER said:
Mog,
Since you mentioned Tmobile and unlock 8525, I was wondering what WM6 ROMs (Cooked or HTC Released) is the most stable, compatible with this network. I too have an AT&T 8525, SuperCID / SIM unlock that I use for Tmobile (USA) network. But all the stuff that I have read in most threads are optimize for AT&T.
Some folks in the UK who are using Tmobile suggested to go with WM6 cooked ROMs. But I know their network and ours are quite different. At first I thought if I purchased a Tmobile UK phone (838 PRO) and have it unlock, then it will be optimized for Tmobile USA network. But I found out that they're entirely different from one another.
I just wanted to know your feedback as well as other Tmobile users out there who uses 8525 or similar phone, which WM6 ROM would be best for our situation. Any input or feedback is greatly appreciated. Thanks all
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llvllerlin said:
So any chance then that the Kaiser will support T-Mobile's [email protected]?
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Well go to the Hermes WM6 board, there was one just released on the 17th or 18th i believe. V3gp or something like that, I believe that would be the most stable because it is the closest thing we got to the WM6 8525 official ROM update. I myself am dealing with WM5 currently, I'll just wait for the official release which "should" be fairly soon.
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llvllerlin said:
So any chance then that the Kaiser will support T-Mobile's [email protected]?
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I dont believe so, for hotspot at home to work you not only need the wifi capability you need some other program to be able to switch from wifi to normal satellite, but im not saying someone will re-release it themselves. We got alot of smart programmers on this website

6800/Mogul is a CDMA phone vs Kaiser a GSM phone.

Wow we got a bunch of idiots on this forum
DEADCENTER said:
Some folks in the UK who are using Tmobile suggested to go with WM6 cooked ROMs. But I know their network and ours are quite different. At first I thought if I purchased a Tmobile UK phone (838 PRO) and have it unlock, then it will be optimized for Tmobile USA network. But I found out that they're entirely different from one another.
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Phones aren't "optimized" for any network, they either have the bands it needs or they do not.
Mog said:
I dont believe so, for hotspot at home to work you not only need the wifi capability you need some other program to be able to switch from wifi to normal satellite, but im not saying someone will re-release it themselves. We got alot of smart programmers on this website
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Cell phones do not use satellite, they use radio towers

1700???
I'm pretty sure they pruchased the 2100mhz band that would support video
800mhz old skewl
850mhz old skewl
1800mhz Edge\GPRS
1900mhz Edge\GPRS
2100mhz 3G-Video
1900mhz 3G-HSDPA
1700mhz\2100mhz T-Mobile 3G-not sure if it is hsdpa
Not positive why the T-mob rep told ya 1700mhz cause they purchaes they also purchased 2100MHZ frequency.

sandrobber said:
I'm pretty sure they pruchased the 2100mhz band that would support video
800mhz old skewl
850mhz old skewl
1800mhz Edge\GPRS
1900mhz Edge\GPRS
2100mhz 3G-Video
1900mhz 3G-HSDPA
1700mhz\2100mhz T-Mobile 3G-not sure if it is hsdpa
Not positive why the T-mob rep told ya 1700mhz cause they purchaes they also purchased 2100MHZ frequency.
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Once again, incorrect information.
It doesn't matter the band, ANYTHING can be put on any band.
T-Mobile bought the 1700MHz band to put their 3G on.
They can offer 2-way video just like every other 3G carrier, or they could do like AT&T and offer 1-way or they could not offer video at all if they wanted.
Its up to them

This thread was started with incorrect information and continues to get posts as such. Since this is just confusing more people than helping, I'm closing the thread.

Looking into buying a Kaiser

and wondering if i should go the pre-unlocked route.
my t-mobile mda is aging. gracefully yes, but still. one of the main reasons i got it was for the mobile pc idea and it has worked wonderfully but i must admit the built-in gps in the kaiser is a selling point. so...
i am going to keep my t-mobile account/etc and was wondering if i bought an unlocked phone and popped in my sim card would i be good to go as far as the radio bands? t-mobile has yet to roll out its 3G network at any significant rate here in florida and i heard rumors that their 3G freq was not the global standard (fcc issues or somesuch).
the kaiser i read does 3G and 3.5G as well as the GSM bands and tmobile has GSM now, so i am wondering if i am shooting myself in the wallet for a phone that might not work on the right freq once the t-mobile 3G comes online.
any thoughts or places i can check on this? i have done the google dance and i come upon rumor after rumor (most 1+ years old). so any hard info would be appreciated.
wergeld

Do a search in this forum and you will be loaded with all kinds of info that your looking for.
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i did and did not find the info i am looking for. lots of stuff for tmobile in the uk. lots of att stuff for the us. not a whole lot of reliable info for the tmobile in the us with unlocked kaiser (unbranded). i did call tmobile to find out about what 3G freq they are using in my area and the response was "we dont give out that information as of yet." very helpful indeed. but he did say that they have a 3G phone out now/soon (he couldnt say...again) that is a slider phone but no windows mobile. i think its a motorola something or other. not my bag.
so i guess i will sit on my mda.
wergeld

Bummer... Tmobile, 3G and my Kaiser

So, if TMO is going with 1700mhz for their 3G (whenever the hell that might be), my Kaiser isn't going to be compatible, right? Bummer. Hope I'm wrong.

will not be compatible

thats the very reason I left Tmobile...i no longer conider then a real carrier.

Any idea if my Kaiser would work on Verizon or another carrier?

I can understand t-mo's reasons for deploying 3g services on 1700mhz, better coverage within mast area and penetration in buildings.
UK is going through similar turmoil, Ofcom is looking into 900Mhz and 1800Mhz 2G networks being upgraded to 3G services if they dont take the 900Mhz range off Voda and o2.

Scott_F said:
Any idea if my Kaiser would work on Verizon or another carrier?
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Not verizon, but any gsm service provider. ie:AT+T.

Read the 3g part of the post
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=1930269#post1930269
also
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=366634&page=14
I don't know where all these people are getting their proof on T-Mo rolling out 1700. Proof anyone? or just something you heard and thought you might repeat.

moddin said:
Read the 3g part of the post
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=1930269#post1930269
also
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=366634&page=14
I don't know where all these people are getting their proof on T-Mo rolling out 1700. Proof anyone? or just something you heard and thought you might repeat.
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http://www.engadgetmobile.com/2006/10/06/t-mobile-details-3g-plans/

WonkotheSane said:
http://www.engadgetmobile.com/2006/10/06/t-mobile-details-3g-plans/
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http://crave.cnet.com/8301-1_105-9825328-1.html
This says 2100 which kaiser also supports. There are no hard facts these stories are like celebrity gossip that nobody cares about.

moddin said:
http://crave.cnet.com/8301-1_105-9825328-1.html
This says 2100 which kaiser also supports. There are no hard facts these stories are like celebrity gossip that nobody cares about.
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Yeah, nobody really cares because it's all good and fun until your phone doesn't work one day by surprise when you take it out of your pocket because they changed the bands on you. I don't worry about things like this either.

Using Diamond in the US

Hello,
I have been really interested in buying this phone for quite a while now. But with it being Triband and not supporting any 3G in the US (which I only really use for internet sharing), I am still wondering if I should spend the money and get this phone or another one. My main question is, even without 3G support, I should still be able to get Voice and EDGE coverage correct? I currently have a Cavalier (S630) which I can use for Internet Sharing only if need be. I still cant see why its not Quadband =( and oh yes, I am on AT&T.
Any help on this topic would be great. Thanks =)

Man why waste 600+ dollars for half a phone. you have waited this long just wait for the us version. Trust me. You have no idea how slow edge is. I used to live in 3G/HSPDA terriroty and now i dont. I havent used my kaiser for web surfing in a while becasue its painfully slow. Save the dough

myv6mustang said:
Man why waste 600+ dollars for half a phone. you have waited this long just wait for the us version. Trust me. You have no idea how slow edge is. I used to live in 3G/HSPDA terriroty and now i dont. I havent used my kaiser for web surfing in a while becasue its painfully slow. Save the dough
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I know how slow EDGE is, it sucks lol. The thing is I know how HTC likes to delay their phones all the time, and I really haven't seen a solid release for the US. I have seen Q2, but since they delay their phones so much you can never tell.

Edge won't work in part's of America either. The Diamond that is out currently is tri-band GSM and doesn't have the 850 mhz which is what at least part of America works on. It's possible, depending on where you live, that even the edge won't work for you.
You really need to wait for the American version to come out.
See this link for the bands.
http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_touch_diamond-2368.php

alaiwy said:
Edge won't work in part's of America either. The Diamond that is out currently is tri-band GSM and doesn't have the 850 mhz which is what at least part of America works on. It's possible, depending on where you live, that even the edge won't work for you.
You really need to wait for the American version to come out.
See this link for the bands.
http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_touch_diamond-2368.php
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The specs on this site state that is has 850mhz band which is not correct. According to the detailed specs thread on the Diamond fourm it says the phone has a GSM band 1900. I went to www.gsmworld.com to look at the network for AT&T (1900mhz band only) and it covers the major cities and surrounding areas (almost exact same coverage map as 850mhz band) unless your in the friggin mountains.

What US network are you on if you have unlocked note?

I saw a deal for an unlocked "world" version of the note and I am on TmoUS. So if I buy the note, will I be able to use my unlimited data plan with 3g or H? I am confused reading the forums on the att side and this one...they're saying I can only get edge? Because that would really suck.
I'm on tapatalk and can't do a decent search on xda via app so if this had been asked already, just point me to that thread and I will gladly have this one deleted. Also, the desire to get the unlocked note is a spur of the moment kinda thing since the deal is only available for one day. Btw, unlocked note is selling for 585 with shipping from 1saleaday.
Sent from my HTC Pyramid using Tapatalk

what they said is right you will only get edge speeds on tmobile with the inter.. Note...If you use AT&T then its no big deal.

I am also on tmo. I found an article that says you can run tmo hspa+ on att note so I'm going to try and trade line on Craigslist. Edge is killing me man.
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I have T-mo US and I get H in most areas ( I live in Philly area ) as T-mo acquired some 1900mHz, but yes, the natural 700Mhz 3g/4g does not work, sorry.

skillz9669 said:
I have T-mo US and I get H in most areas ( I live in Philly area ) as T-mo acquired some 1900mHz, but yes, the natural 700Mhz 3g/4g does not work, sorry.
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Hello, so let me get this right. If I have HSPA+ in my area (which I do in Chicago) then I can run the International Note on non-edge tmobile speeds?

whocares2k7 said:
Hello, so let me get this right. If I have HSPA+ in my area (which I do in Chicago) then I can run the International Note on non-edge tmobile speeds?
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that depends on the frequency of the 3g network in your area.
however, this is the first I've seen it mentioned that American t mobile has any other 3g bands than 700mhz.
So I'd say no, you most likely will not get 3g speeds.

The N7000 will only run on T-Mobile edge. If you want 4g you have to AT&T or Straight Talk.

This is true. T-Mobile Sucks! EDGE just blows and I am amazed anyone uses it.
Oh well. I am going to try straight talk in a few weeks to see if that is any better.

Well, EDGE is downright terrible...no one can argue that. If you want to use T-Mobile, you're better off getting the AT-T note, unlocking it, then installing the right modem files to use it on 3g/4g. I use T-Mobile myself, and decided to keep the Int. version...I think it's better, and the development community is WAY better, mainly because the device has been out longer. It's up to you really. Don't hope T-Mobile will be updating it's 1900mhz spectrum in your area anytime soon...it's a process I'm sure will take many years.

ubermetroid said:
This is true. T-Mobile Sucks! EDGE just blows and I am amazed anyone uses it.
Oh well. I am going to try straight talk in a few weeks to see if that is any better.
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Straight Talk is excellent you get around 4-6mbps download speeds.

chadrick.7 said:
Straight Talk is excellent you get around 4-6mbps download speeds.
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I'm thinking of switching to straight talk myself...you know if they will honor the number you already have?

smalmagal said:
I'm thinking of switching to straight talk myself...you know if they will honor the number you already have?
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Yes they do number porting as long as it is not a at&t number because straight talk uses at&t network.

It sucks that it is more difficult to get the inter version to work on 3g or h on tmo. I did read that the inter version is better than att version and I do believe that development will be better with the inter version as it obviously covers more countries and it has been out longer. I really want this note but I'm just gonna wait a bit. I have a feeling those guys working on getting tmo to work on inter version will be able to do it. Wishful thinking probably but it is possible with all the talented devs out there. I guess I'm going to be on sensation for a while until tmo comes up with a phone as awesome as the note. Thanks for all the responses!!
Sent from my HTC Pyramid using Tapatalk

Check if your area has the TMO 1900Mhz band and if it does then you're in luck for some 3G TMO goodness.
Sent from my GT-N7000 using Tapatalk 2 Beta-2

kotaro_14 said:
Check if your area has the TMO 1900Mhz band and if it does then you're in luck for some 3G TMO goodness.
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Noob question...how can I check? Are you getting 3g with tmo now?
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chadrick.7 said:
Straight Talk is excellent you get around 4-6mbps download speeds.
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FYI and I have heard of this issue before, Straight Talk gets varied reception in Metropolitian areas. Let me explain.
I have had ST for a few months now, on the NT7000. I have had zero issues.
A couple of caveats
DO NOT use more than 100mb/day or 2gb/month, whichever comes first. People have had their contracts terminated by ST for doing this. So not truly unlimited (but still more than decent deal). This is not a *hard* limit- I have done more without any issues by accident.
I get decent service in the suburb of NYC where I live (few tall buildings), actually much better service than Tmobile had.
However, in NYC itself, the service can be absolutely horrible depending on area. My guess for this phenomenon is that while you are on an ATT MVNO, this doesn't necessarily mean that you have the same roaming rights as regular ATT customers. In a metro area, roaming might be necessary to get signal in certain places.
My download speeds at 2gb down 1 up.
I would just buy a months' worth at first and try it out as prepaid, then port your number in.
From what I understand, you don't even need to buy the e71 like I did anymore

skillz9669 said:
I have T-mo US and I get H in most areas ( I live in Philly area ) as T-mo acquired some 1900mHz, but yes, the natural 700Mhz 3g/4g does not work, sorry.
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Which areas in Philly? I live in Philly but only manage to ever get Edge speeds on mine.

I use RedPocket. It's a MVNO of AT&T ....
Wasn't me!! I didn't do it!

so if we get an unlocked version running on att network. we will get hspa+?

houstonsveryown said:
so if we get an unlocked version running on att network. we will get hspa+?
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I do. I got it with the SGS II and ow with the Note. up to 3mbs download. Good enough. MediaNet is $10 a month unlimited, I don't use nearly 2GB maybe less than 1 as I am in WiFi most of the time. I am using a Cingular.wap setting. Its different than the "smartphone" APN but the speeds are the same (until LTE is available) I don't need LTE speeds on a phone. I don't even get those speeds at home on cable. maybe 7Mbs DL.