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Hi all, sorry for being such a newbie, but...
I want to buy a Diamond locked to the Orange network, UK. Am I right in thinking the following...
1) The only way to get this phone unlocked is to pay for software (As mentioned elsewhere on this forum).
2) Once unlocking software is purchased, it comes with other software which de-brands the phone and replaces the Orange firmware with the HTC original (or at least, a cooked version thereof).
Thanks for all help received !!!
P.S. I did try searching for these answers myself on the forum, but kinda lost the will to live whilst reading page 6 of a 16-page thread, in which people appeared to contradict one another - So I thought I would just ask the experts and get a simple yes / no !
1) Not strictly the only way, but the simplest and cheapest.
2) No, you can leave as is, or you can just put whatever you like in it, and that's whether or not it's locked to Orange...
I'm still locked to Orange (no intention of changing given the great deal I got), and I've already flashed to the latest HTC original 1.93.405.1, I've tried a variety of radios, and am currently back to 1.00.25.05, (the phone originally came from Orange with a 1.00.25.03 Radio).
1. why get a phone from orange and then want to unlock it.why not use it on orange.
2.you can use any rom on here with it locked to orange.i use swiftbl 6.0 and
mines still locked to orange.just follow instuctions on how to flash rom on here.it is easy dont worry about it.
964rs777 said:
1. why get a phone from orange and then want to unlock it.why not use it on orange.
2.you can use any rom on here with it locked to orange.i use swiftbl 6.0 and
mines still locked to orange.just follow instuctions on how to flash rom on here.it is easy dont worry about it.
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1. Because, obviously, his intention is so.
Hi,
Thanks for all the help.
I didn't make myself very clear above. What I was trying to say was that I am going to buy a phone which is (briefly) used, but comes with a 1-year guarantee. At present the phone is locked to Orange and I wanted to unlock it and rebrand it because...
1) Orange are alot dearer unless you tie yourself into a (min)12 month contract
[Something which I def. dont want to do !]
AND
2) Orange usually (or at least used to) personalize a phones firmware with their own menu system/ icons etc. Which again, I don't want, because the phones original/generic firmware is usually better IMHO.
I was hoping that the unlocking & de-branding may simply have been a case of flashing the phone using existing software - but oh well !!!
Actually, just a thought - the Orange phones do come locked don't they ?
Orange phones are locked, yes. But with the Diamond, it's unbranded so no real need to flash the ROM unless you want to improve upon it's working speed
Flashing the ROM is pretty easy and all the software is free and available on this site in the ROMs section.
Unlocking the phone means paying for an unlock code which isn't usually that expensive.
keep in mind that this will void your warranty too
But with the Diamond, it's unbranded
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Excellent that makes a nice change !
keep in mind that this will void your warranty too
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Is there no way of backing up the original rom before overwriting it ?
Thanks
So,
Here is what happened, I've got an HD7 that has been laying around my office for months, it was actually never used and it has never been updated.
Unfortunately I lost my previous phone and I decided to use that one, but... It was carrier locked to T-Mobile and I did not want to either purchase or beg t-mobile for a code.
Next thing I did was to carefully read every post I could find regarding HD7 carrier unlocking and found myself with only one option: Install a custom ROM on my phone.
The phone had the SPL 1.20 so I decided to install Cotulla's HSPL and then install a Custom ROM, but it failed twice to flash the device, once at 20% and then at 80%.
Right now the Phone goes right into the bootloader screen (It does show cotulla's HSPL as installed) after a short load atempt (obviously the OS is only partially installed).
Im looking forward to get advise on how to install the custom ROM and what I might be doing wrong.
Masticore26 said:
So,
Here is what happened, I've got an HD7 that has been laying around my office for months, it was actually never used and it has never been updated.
Unfortunately I lost my previous phone and I decided to use that one, but... It was carrier locked to T-Mobile and I did not want to either purchase or beg t-mobile for a code.
Next thing I did was to carefully read every post I could find regarding HD7 carrier unlocking and found myself with only one option: Install a custom ROM on my phone.
The phone had the SPL 1.20 so I decided to install Cotulla's HSPL and then install a Custom ROM, but it failed twice to flash the device, once at 20% and then at 80%.
Right now the Phone goes right into the bootloader screen (It does show cotulla's HSPL as installed) after a short load atempt (obviously the OS is only partially installed).
Im looking forward to get advise on how to install the custom ROM and what I might be doing wrong.
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well if you can get to the bootloader screen...why don't you install a custom ROM using Task29 ?? that should work...
Well, I tried to install the factory ROM but it fails as well, it always gets stuck at some point beyond 80%.
I was able to install Deepshining ROM, but the sim lock remains... I guess I will have to buy an unlock code. ¿Can someone tell me what is the site site to buy one?
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I was able to install Deepshining ROM, but the sim lock remains... I guess I will have to buy an unlock code. ¿Can someone tell me what is the site site to buy one?
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i also had this problem
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Dollyena said:
i also had this problem
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You don't have to buy the unlock code. Call T-Mobile, ask for technical support (bypass customer service, it will take too long), and request the unlock code. Have the IMEI # for your phone available. They will email the unlock code to you usually within 24-48 hours. I did this last month and got the code the same day.
Long store short: HTCDev site allows for easy unlocking but it requires the user to enter a token that marks them in their system as having an unlocked bootloader, thereby allowing them to void your warranty in cases where software modifications had no play in hardware faults.
The problem: Revone grants S-Off but I heard from an XDA thread stating that the new OTA update for the HTC One might have patched this exploit; the current and only RUU available is this current version. (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2375223&page=14) I have accidentally reset my phone before and it actually downgrades this update, making it possible for the Revone exploit to work.
So here is my plan to bypass this (This is my first time playing with an Android phone so I'm not sure if this would even work.):
1.) Reset phone to out-of-box version.
2.) Backup stock ROM. (Don't know if this is possible without root; if not, then my plan is screwed.)
3.) Use Revone to obtain S-Off,
4.) Change MID and CID, then flash Google Play Edition RUU.
5.) Unlock bootloader via "fastboot oem unlock" to bypass HTCDev unlock.
To Revert Back to Stock:
6.) Use Revone to remove "tampered" and change "unlocked" to "locked." (not "re-locked")
(Another method: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2044670)
7.) Flash the backup of the stock ROM.
8.) Remove S-Off with "fastboot oem writesecureflag 3."
(Not sure if this works but the source is here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=25173401)
9.) Send back to HTC with an active warranty.
Could this theoretically work? Sorry about the noob-ness; I use to be an iSheep so forgive my ignorance if all of this is just complete crap.
Edit: The point of this is to keep the version of stock ROM that is exploitable with Revone so S-Off can be obtained once more. If unless someone can confirm that the current T-Mobile RUU is exploitable.
This will only work if you're not on the new boatloader before you try to s-off.
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I don't know of a way you will be able to backup the stock ROM without having a custom recovery which requires an unlock. At least backing up everything system/data as you alluded. It would require CWR or TWRP.
You also will be required to change your MID and CID back as well before going stock, I'll admit its a little dangerous but everything except the backup seems sound.
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You're making this complicated for no reason :S Get S-Off, flash stock rom found on Android Development forum, send it to HTC S-Off, they don't care. They have bigger issues at the moment anyway, what with losing half their design team.
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Long store short: HTCDev site allows for easy unlocking but it requires the user to enter a token that marks them in their system as having an unlocked bootloader, thereby allowing them to void your warranty in cases where software modifications had no play in hardware faults.
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I believe your basic premise that unlocking your bootloader via HTCDev website method leads to your warranty becoming void is incorrect.
The following article explains in some detail why your warranty remains intact
http://android-revolution-hd.blogspot.co.uk/2013/03/unlocking-bootloader-or-flashing-custom.html?m=1
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paul_59 said:
I believe your basic premise that unlocking your bootloader via HTCDev website method leads to your warranty becoming void is incorrect.
The following article explains in some detail why your warranty remains intact
http://android-revolution-hd.blogspot.co.uk/2013/03/unlocking-bootloader-or-flashing-custom.html?m=1
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Unfortunately, HTC Repair Centres will void warranty if they see it is unlocked or tampered, and the article you linked is old and cannot be used as fact. Many people have had their warranties voided because of this. Sure, go sue HTC, but you will spend a lot of time, effort and cash doing that
Yes they can and will void your warranty, you knew the risks with unlocking the bootloader...should do your your
Research more in depth.
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Matt said:
Unfortunately, HTC Repair Centres will void warranty if they see it is unlocked or tampered, and the article you linked is old and cannot be used as fact. Many people have had their warranties voided because of this. Sure, go sue HTC, but you will spend a lot of time, effort and cash doing that
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Most countries will have some form of consumer protection legislation, your legal rights will obviously vary from country to country.
In the the UK it's covered by the Sale of goods act . Throughout the rest of Europe there is equivalent legislation under a EU directive
There is no need for anyone to sue HTC or other company in order to obtain your legal right of redress should goods that you have bought new subsequently become faulty.
I am certain that USA and numerous other countries will have similar legislation.
I have read many posts on xda from people who reported that their phone had been repaired or replaced, having previously unlocked via HTC dev .
If you and others choose to believe otherwise, then that's fine with me, I just feel that what I sincerely believe is a misinformed opinion shouldn't go unchallenged.
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Matt said:
Unfortunately, HTC Repair Centres will void warranty if they see it is unlocked or tampered, and the article you linked is old and cannot be used as fact. Many people have had their warranties voided because of this. Sure, go sue HTC, but you will spend a lot of time, effort and cash doing that
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I've actually just returned mine and I had no way to remove the tampered flag etc but they didn't bill me ... They didn't fix it either though lol, they said they'd changed the camera but the same fault still exists.
I spoke to a guy at HTC and he basically said your warranty would only be void if the fault was caused as a result of something you flashed or as a result of unlocking the bootloader (he mentioned the motherboard specifically). The problem I have is that I don't trust them enough to send it back again, I'd already been without it for 2 weeks and after all that it wasn't any different. My main concern though is that they could tell me the warranty was void and I couldn't do a thing but pay £25 to get me phone returned to me, un-repaired, or pay them to repair it, both are out of the question lol
You are over complicating the process. Assuming you are able to obtain s-off, as it is impossible for some one owners currently, use revone to s-off. Revone can also unlock the boot loader, so no need for htcdev at all.
If you want a GPe one, flash the ruu zip. If not, don't. But remember, if you just want GPe, you can flash a ROM. The ruu zip contains all the firmware too for a full conversion. You should change cid if you do it, to get ota's, but mid change is unnecessary.
When getting ready to return for warranty, if necessary, flash an official RUU.exe. You will need to lock your boot loader for this, and again, revone has a tool built in to lock it, not relock. You will not need to reset the tampered flag, because being s-off prior to flashing the custom recovery for the first time causes your phone to never run the security checks that flag it as tampered in the first place. Remember to change your cid to match the RUU.exe that you flashed. And leave the phone s-off when you turn it in. It may return in a state where you could not re s-off it. Also a few devices made it into the market this way, so they can not use it as a basis for voiding your warranty.
TL;DR:
Revone elimates the need to use HTCDev completely.
Do or don't flash GPe, that's up to you, but not a necessity.
An RUU will bring your phone completely back to stock, no need for backup.
Leave it s-off when you send it in.
Edit;
When I say no need for a backup, I mean if you're s-off and if you only need to get your device to 100% out of the box condition.
If you're playing around and flashing this and that, by all means, backup, backup, backup. You will be happy you did when you have to use one and don't need to start from the ground up.
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Matt said:
Unfortunately, HTC Repair Centres will void warranty if they see it is unlocked or tampered, and the article you linked is old and cannot be used as fact. Many people have had their warranties voided because of this. Sure, go sue HTC, but you will spend a lot of time, effort and cash doing that
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They've always replaced and repaired my rooted/tampered phones, including HTC One.
Hello, i have a retail xt1097, its already updated to marshmallow, dont really need to be root forever but i need at least temporal root to do some one-time minor changes, such as install my desired launcher as system, led for battery, hostfile and such.
The problem is i dont want to unlock the bootloader untill warranty expires (still 7 months of warranty) so the question is if any app/exploit, can temp root this device, under MM.
*Tryed searching and i found kingoroot does the trick but im not sure if it will work on MM, i cant mess up bricking phones now because im not be able to repair them since weather its hot, people overload powerlines and electricity drops all the time and makes my pc suddently power off.
Any advice? Thanks guys
As far as I know root isn't possible with locked bootloader.
There has been quite a bit of discussion (I think most of what I read was on other forums) about Motorola's warranty policy for unlocked bootloaders: it seems that from what people have experienced they will still honor the warranty if it is strictly a hardware problem. I bought my phone used but with over a year of Moto Care remaining, which the original owner transferred to me. He (the original owner) had already unlocked the bootloader, but the Moto Care is still shown as active and valid on my account, even though I don't even have stock rom anymore. Just to be safe I would definitely (if possible) re-flash stock rom prior to making any warranty claim.
Hmm makes sense, then can i unlock BL, root, do my things, then unroot, flash stock recovery and relock? is that posible? does it need a custom kernel too? im ok with the stock rom just need few one-time tweaks...
Unless you really use Moto Voice a lot I would just install the newly released CM14.1, and if you ever need warranty work try to reflash stock beforehand. Otherwise, flash twrp, root, etc.... That is covered in the general section, probably linked to some of the stickies at the top of the page. I'm not sure if it will work for you to make system modifications and then try to relock bootloader. I think part of relocking the bootloader includes flashing the stock rom, which would undo any changes you have made.
Hi,
I'm about to get this device; I was wondering, will relocking the bootloader and flashing back to stock un-null the warranty, or is there a hardware/software permanent unlock counter/flag?
Just wondering because I plan on flashing ROMs, and just in case the phone turns out defective and I need to send it in.
Lel, you have to ignore warranty once you are on xda. Choose wisely, xda or the crap warranty.
I suppose there is no sort of counter to check whether bootloader was unlocked.
But in US model there was discussion that users were not able to get OTA back after unlocking the bootloader.
Just a suggestion stay on stock ROM for about week or something to check whether everything is working fine or not.
Thanks for the reply; yeah that's what I intend to do. Stay on stock for a month or two- then go to CM and maybe make some CM builds for the device.
Rude, unhelpful answer; I understand that (I am a ROM developer). Just wondering.