Hi! I have upgraded my BA to Xplode's ROM R4 release more than a month ago I guess. I also have extended my storage memory by following the wiki and earned extra MBs. The ROM is 32MB RAMdisk / 16MB page pool.
From my understanding the more RAM(Pagepool) allocated the faster it will be, right? Currently my storage memory and program memory details are:
Storage
Total: 60.30MB
In Use: 35.26MB
Free: 25.04
**From my understanding 32MB of the 60.30MB is my RAM disk because it's being shown in my file explorer...
Program
Total: 77.11MB
In Use: 22.55 MB
Free: 54.56 MB
Questions:
1. Is it possible for me to change the RAM (Page Pool) size so my BA will run faster?
2. Is it possible for me to allocate program memory to storage memory?
I have free MBs that I want to allocate for RAM (Page Pool).
Please enlighten me on this one. Thank you!
search this forum for overclock and theres a post with xcpu scaler which lets you overclock the BA which speeds it up!
its great
but it drains the battery...
matthew_wetton said:
search this forum for overclock and theres a post with xcpu scaler which lets you overclock the BA which speeds it up!
its great
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I've used that before but I don't want to overclock the BA coz it drains the battery and what I wanted is more ram not more proc speed. thanks for your input though!
nyuszi said:
but it drains the battery...
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That's exactly right!
get a bigger battery I always ran mine at 530 and got at least 2 days before needing a recharge
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When i upgraded my Himalaya to WM5, I think I used used the 64 MB RAM version. I used the himaDOC tool to partition my device and give 64 MB to the RAM and 64 to storage.
Will that partitioning persist after I have upgraded to WM6? Ever since I installed WM6 my device is very very slow and it is because there's less than 3 MB of RAM left available. Here's what my machine says about its memory:
The ABOUT menu shows "Memory: 61.28MB"
The Hardware tab in Device Information shows RAM 128 MB, Flash 32MB, Storage Size 30.53MB
And when I go to Start > System > Settings > Memory, it shows Storage Total: 30.53 and Program Total 61.25MB
I am a little confused about what all these different types of memories mean. If anyone can clarify, i would really appreciate it. Also is there a way to increase the storage memory because with the total 30.53, 27 MB is always in use and with the remaining 4 MB, the device is painfully slow.
humayunl said:
And when I go to Start > System > Settings > Memory, it shows Storage Total: 30.53 and Program Total 61.25MB
I am a little confused about what all these different types of memories mean. If anyone can clarify, i would really appreciate it. Also is there a way to increase the storage memory because with the total 30.53, 27 MB is always in use and with the remaining 4 MB, the device is painfully slow.
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If you have used DOC partitioning tool, you have 30.53 MB of storage ROM. The rest of ROM is your system and radio stack.
Your RAM is divided into 3 parts: program memory (actual RAM), RAM disk and page pool. They sum up to 128 MB. So, for example, if you have 32 MB of a RAM disk and a 32 MB page pool, you have 64 MB of a program memory left.
So from the numbers I see on my device, does everything seem good or is there anything I can do to further improve memory performance/allocation so that the things will be faster?
Do you have a RAMdisk enabled?
You know, there's no simple answer to "what configuration is better". If it were, you wouldn't have a choice It depends on how many programs you have installed, what exactly programs you're running, and so on...
ey,
Yesterday I bought de HTC S730.
Memory:
132.29 Mb intern ROM
43.58 Mb intern RAM
Question:
Is this normal for this phone?
They promised:
256 Mb ROM
64 Mb RAM
Ok, wm6 is on it and that will use an amount of ROM.
But I don't understand the amount of RAM, it's too less.
And my phone is already slow derictly after start up (free RAM is about 10Mb.
Should I go back with it or is there a way to speed it up?
Greets,
Niels
With window's and the other app's installed on it that sounds fairly normal. The memory has a leak which is supposedly being fixed by HTC, but with window's and other things actively using the RAM I dont see any fix really boosting it too much, but every little bit helps.
If you are using the default home screen with the weather app and so forth built in your memory on first boot should be around 14 - 16mb free. Then with keeping your memory free you can keep it around 10 - 12 after a week or more of none stop use.
Theres a thread on here that talks about other tweeks you can do to clean things up and have more memory but with carefull monitoring and so forth the phone wont bog down much.
Of course closing an app and then imidiately opening another one will slow things down some...
nielswillems said:
ey,
Yesterday I bought de HTC S730.
Memory:
132.29 Mb intern ROM
43.58 Mb intern RAM
Question:
Is this normal for this phone?
They promised:
256 Mb ROM
64 Mb RAM
Ok, wm6 is on it and that will use an amount of ROM.
But I don't understand the amount of RAM, it's too less.
And my phone is already slow derictly after start up (free RAM is about 10Mb.
Should I go back with it or is there a way to speed it up?
Greets,
Niels
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It's normal. And the phone is usable. BTW.: if you'd try to find out some information about this (or any similar) WM6 smartphone before purchase, you should know.
ok I'm persuaded.
Thank you for the answers.
Greets,
Niels
Your welcome, it is a good phone, and if you dont mind the other backgrounds or what to edit the default one you can open that memory closer to 20 free.
Enjoy
Hello,
As you know Kaiser has 128MB of RAM. When you open Memory in settings then you can see that there is only 85.32MB of Program memory. So where is 42,68MB of RAM? Is all gone for pagepool in this ROM?
Best regards.
Just like yr desktop, everything runs on the machine need memory (RAM). OS (WM6.1), driver, start-up program, phone dialer, today ... etc.
jackleung said:
Just like yr desktop, everything runs on the machine need memory (RAM). OS (WM6.1), driver, start-up program, phone dialer, today ... etc.
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You are talking about "in use" memory. I am talking about total memory what you can see in memory in settings...
After soft reset i have:
Total: 85.32 MB
In Use: 38:93 MB
Free: 46.39 MB
Anybody can explain me why total memory is only 85.32?
art12345 said:
You are talking about "in use" memory. I am talking about total memory what you can see in memory in settings...
After soft reset i have:
Total: 85.32 MB
In Use: 38:93 MB
Free: 46.39 MB
Anybody can explain me why total memory is only 85.32?
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I know exactly what you are talking about. In older ROMs 6.0 and I believe some of the older 6.1, that amount was closer to the 100MB mark.
Part of that (about 12MB) is used for page pool. However almost that amount was used on the older ROMs as well, so wouldn't account for the almost 15MB disparity we see.
I have asked this question myself a couple times in the ROM development forum...no one has provided an answer. Some suggest that they are using that RAM as additional 'cache' ram of one type or another to improve performance. That seems like it could be a logical reason since whenever you increase other cache's in the registry it takes memory out of that same chunk. The other answer could be that there are newer or more low level drivers that for one reason or another are taking up that RAM.
Fact is no one knows. My bet is on cache of some point, although i can't really say that I see an improvement that would warrant that 15MB of use. There's not much you can do about it at this point other than live with the diminished memory or flash an older ROM.
Before i had HTC Himalaya (128MB of RAM) with WM5 and there when you set up 16MB pagepool then all rest of RAM (112MB) was available in memory applet. I never tried Himalaya with WM6 ROM so i can't tell how much memory was available then. However, thanks for your reply. Regards.
Hello,
I bought my Diamond yesterday from PDA plaza in Montreal. I am very puzzling with the memory I have on my unit. By clicking on Setting and Memory, this is what I have:
Storage: Total: 83.06 MB In use: 26.41 MB Free: 56.66 MB
Program: Total: 113.08 MB In use: 61.20 MB Free: 51.88MB
Very far from the specifications, which are ROM: 256 MB
RAM: 192 MB DDR RAM.
So is my unit defective? or this is normal.
Thanks in advance, because if I need to replace it, it need to be done as soon as possible...
Philippe
This would appear to be either a Grey Import or Pre-production specification? You should double check:
Go to - Start> Settings> System Tab> Device Information> Hardware Tab>
There you will find all the information about the physical memory?
If your correct then you may want to return it to the supplier or ask for a price reduction if your happy to keep it?
Hope this helps?
Thank you,
Yes, it is written Ram size 192 MB and Flash 256 MB. But why is that so different when I check on setting and memory?
Philippe
A chunk of memory is taken up by the Rom (System Software) and other system resources as they run. As you see new "cooked" roms become available you will see an improved level of memory usage - its nothing to worry about as long as performance is as expected?
I am incredibly envious that you already have the device though - looks like we here in the UK are going to have to wait a while longer unless we want an imported model?
Again - Hope this helps!
Because of all application running on your PDA...I heard that, with the 3D touchflo, there is "only" 90 Mo of Ram available !!
I'm using the Diamond to post right now. Touchflo 3d is a memory hog. only about 30% is free with no other applications running. the browser uses another 10%.
Thanks for all your comments. So to compare with my unit, please could you tell me how much memory you have for Storate and Program. So I will know how my unit compare to others...
Cheers,
Philippe
**** ME! How can it only have 50 MB of RAM free? Ive always got at least 60 free and I have 60 less to start with. Maybe TF3D is a massive hog?
But looking at the things you said, something like 113 available, 50 in use and 60 free, thats a good thing, you must have 192 built in, usually with 128 build in, you'll get figures of 80 available, not 113.
The one thing I dont understand is why the program memory never says that available is the amount of RAM you actually have. Because on startup I've usually got about 20 in use, and thats by the OS. So, when you take available program from the RAM you're meant to have, and get a number, lets say 80MB in this case, whats that used for?
rorydaredkign said:
**** ME! How can it only have 50 MB of RAM free? Ive always got at least 60 free and I have 60 less to start with. Maybe TF3D is a massive hog?
But looking at the things you said, something like 113 available, 50 in use and 60 free, thats a good thing, you must have 192 built in, usually with 128 build in, you'll get figures of 80 available, not 113.
The one thing I dont understand is why the program memory never says that available is the amount of RAM you actually have. Because on startup I've usually got about 20 in use, and thats by the OS. So, when you take available program from the RAM you're meant to have, and get a number, lets say 80MB in this case, whats that used for?
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With 128Mb RAM in machine Touch Dual shows 101Mb total, but Asus P750 120Mb. so adding another 64Mb we only gaining 12Mb total? Is that what you are trying to say???
83+113=196 is more than 192MB. Isn't the 256MB only for ROM (so WM6.1 OS+pre-installed programs?)
83 + 113 should not equal anything
Storage is the free space after a rom has been installed and is basically the free part of the ROM. With a lite made rom, it should be as large as possible, and the used storage on first boot should be near zero.
The 113 part is the RAM.
What I'm trying to say is where is the other 79MB of program memory (RAM)?
Because its not like on soft reset, you have say 113MB program free, no you have that available and about 60MB free. the approx 50 that is used up in this case is by startup items, and the stuff windows needs to rum. So where is this 79MB?
rorydaredkign said:
The one thing I dont understand is why the program memory never says that available is the amount of RAM you actually have. Because on startup I've usually got about 20 in use, and thats by the OS. So, when you take available program from the RAM you're meant to have, and get a number, lets say 80MB in this case, whats that used for?
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I'm sure it has some use. Hard drives are never quite as big as they say because of things like pagefiles, file allocation tables, etc.
Maybe that hidden 80MB is being used by system processes that are kept hidden. That's the only explanation I can think of, because computers don't seem to have a similar problem.
Dark Fire said:
I'm sure it has some use. Hard drives are never quite as big as they say because of things like pagefiles, file allocation tables, etc.
Maybe that hidden 80MB is being used by system processes that are kept hidden. That's the only explanation I can think of, because computers don't seem to have a similar problem.
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I'm going to agree with you on that! No way they released all these phones with bad chips in them!
Hello everybody,
I would like to know how much memory left you have. The only programs I installed are spb GPRSMonitor, Schap"s Advanced Configuration Tool and DinarSoft MemMaid. I know I have 196MB for Ram size, but when I click on setting memory, I have only 40.25 MB free...
Not much more than with my previous Eten X500+, which had only 64 MB.
Thanks in advance,
Philippe
Same problem here, I think the current ROM has a problem...
Diamond :
Total - Storage : 83mb + Programs : 113 = 196Mb
Touch Dual :
Total - Storage : 122mb + Programs : 101 = 223Mb
Isn't the Diamond supposed to have more memory than the Touch Dual, and what's with the storage memory being 40Mb less !
I thought ROM is the one used for storage and RAM is used for processing of data by the OS?
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I thought ROM is the one used for storage and RAM is used for processing of data by the OS?
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Yes it is... but some people still don't seem to get it...
haha okok...
anyway, what's your "idle" (no programs running other than your Touchflow and no other connections switched on) percentage of memory usage?
the lowest I can go is 61% which I feel is considerably high. I've already applied all the tweaks. Probably explains the slight lag.
How are you seeing 61% ? If you check off Touchfo3D in the today settings I hope it doesn't still start it...
the lowest i can go is 56%. and this when nothing is running except the touchflo3d,and phone is on in 3g mode with connection,also every page of tf3d is loaded(weather,progs,contact etc.)
still it says that there is 63.63mb in use of ram and now i have 49.46mb of free ram. thats the same i had on my kaiser!! very strange.
They say the phone has 192mb ram? i only see 113.08mb as total ram??
cant wait till touch pro comes out
Touch Flo 3D has memory leak issues. The longer u use, the less ram u'll have.
ok but still I get the RAM/ROM thing, but anyone knows where the rest of the RAM is? (192-112MB) I guess the 256MB rom is also used for other stuff as external rom etc.
xzces said:
ok but still I get the RAM/ROM thing, but anyone knows where the rest of the RAM is? (192-112MB) I guess the 256MB rom is also used for other stuff as external rom etc.
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i think the memory used by the OS is not shown..
only memory used by the programs that you run are shown
hope that helps..