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How-to: Fix WM6 from not being able to receive calls

After working on this since day 0 when WM6 was leaked I'm happy to now provide the solution to major problem I experienced on WM6. I post what I did now at 3am in the hopes it can help others.
* PLEASE NOTE : This has not been repeated as I'm happy my WM6 Treo now receives phone calls and I'm not about to repeat the long process in a hurry just yet *
* In summary, a) unlocking Extended ROM and wiping it, then b) running the Treo 750 Recovery Tool -- seems to be the total solution.
Specs
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Treo 750v Vodafone New Zealand running WM5 with 1.16VF (also tried another Treo with 1.15, same issue).
Updated to WM6 using AT&T ROM.
Vodafone NZ network is GSM900 with UMTS2100 and HSDPA.
Bootloader IPL/SPL 0.20 / 0.24.
Problem
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Could not receive ANY calls. TXTs delayed. Voicemail notification delayed. Outbound calls intermittently working.
Any person calling received a "dit-dit-dit-dit---dit-dit-dit-dit" tone, the sound of a disconnected number.
The Treo did not display any notification of the new number. Really bad.. meant I couldn't use WM6.
Solution
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Simply, remove all AT&T crap, and in fact prevent it from starting from the Extended ROM.
1. Hard reset your device, flash with WM6 from SD card. All good.
2. Unlock and unhide your Extended ROM. This is a bit of a pain and didn't seem to work at first for me. In fact, it unhide after first reset, but then if I hard resetted the Extended ROM magically came back. Follow this guy's progress: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=1406616&highlight=extended+rom#post1406616 - I soft-resetted about 7x...
3. Delete files from Extended ROM (2 files). I copied them to my memory card first. You can extract them as a zip archive on your PC. Some interesting files in there. Who knows how to uncompress _PZE? (this isn't relevant to the solution btw! Just make sure you delete the files in Extended ROM).
3. I installed Total Commander *IN* the Extended ROM. Just for fun really, I thought it would be a good way of overwriting any existing files in there - as when i hard resetted earlier they came back.
4. *NOT NEEDED* [Thanks "Kaine79"]
5. Run the T750URT.exe "Treo 750 Recovery Tool" while your Treo is in bootloader. This is reallllly slow and takes a good 5 minutes plus.
6. Hard-reset. Follow wizard starting up... and hey you will notice straight away it defaults to "English (UK)" instead of "English (US)". If it does that -- you've got rid of the AT&T crap and now your phone can receive phone calls!
** PROBABLY HALF THESE STEPS ARE OBSOLETE ** I have left them all in, just so that someone else having the same issue as me, might run through and find out only 2 out of the 6 actually did anything relevant. But I don't know what those 2 are

Hi,
Thanks to your post I could fix tje problem about incomming calls !
Thank you very much !
I jumped step 4, if this could help the next one

Ok, I'm curious about something. Where are you getting the T750URT.exe file? The only place I could find it was in the official WM5 upgrade, after running it, it appears that it simply downgraded my radio firmware to an earlier version, is this the case or am I missing something blatantly obvious here?

recovery tool
I found it while browsing Palm's NZ website. It's here:
http://www.palm.com/nz/support/downloads/treo/750vupdate_recovery.html
Downgrading the radio would sound right for fixing phone call problem.
Unfortunately I find HSDPA no longer works after running the URT. It's either a) I have HSDPA or b) I receive phone calls...

Every 750v has problem with incoming calls after upgrade? Or only some of them (specified or random)? If it's because of radio, every single Treo should have this issue...

Palm Treo 750v recovery tools downgrades radio to version. 1.12.0c.00. That's all it does.

I haven't had any issues with incoming calls at all since i've upgraded to the AT&T ROM. everything's been working great except it does feel a bit laggy. i might try removing all the crap tonight

"Unlocked" Tilt on Rogers -- no voice calls

Hi guys...sorry if this is already answered here, but I just got a supposedly 'unlocked' AT&T Tilt from eBay and put in my Rogers SIM card. It seems to work OK on the data side of things - gleefully accessing the internet and even syncing my email, but I can't get the voice calls to work. Even shows '3G' for the data connection.
Whenever anyone calls me, they get a couple of rings and it goes to my voicemail. If I try to call out, it dials, then immediately ends the call when it tries to connect.
The SIM card is OK I know, since it works in my Eten X500 just fine.
Do I have to do something to the phone to completely remove the AT&T stuff?
Help...I love the phone, but if it won't make voice calls....
Thanks.
/drt

I had this same problem on ATT in the US. They kept trying to tell me it was a problem with my phone, although I knew this wasnt the case because I had 2 tilts in a row that did this. I called them and eventually got through to a higer level tech, tier 2 I think. I'm not completely sure what he did but he fixed it. It was a problem on their end.
I was able to use data as well, just no calls. It would drop them as soon as I made them.
Call Rogers, they will probably work it out.

You need to flash your tilt with a different version of radio and it will work.

asfoor said:
You need to flash your tilt with a different version of radio and it will work.
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Thanks... any particular suggestions? I'm thinking of flashing the unit with QMobile 1.2, but I don't think that comes with a radio ROM...I guess I should pick one up from the Upload area?
Thanks again for the help.
/drt

xconradx said:
I had this same problem on ATT in the US. They kept trying to tell me it was a problem with my phone, although I knew this wasnt the case because I had 2 tilts in a row that did this. I called them and eventually got through to a higer level tech, tier 2 I think. I'm not completely sure what he did but he fixed it. It was a problem on their end.
I was able to use data as well, just no calls. It would drop them as soon as I made them.
Call Rogers, they will probably work it out.
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I may give that a try, but Rogers doesn't provide support for phones they don't sell. I think I will be SOL once they find out I'm connecting with a 'non-standard' phone.
/drt

drtolson said:
I may give that a try, but Rogers doesn't provide support for phones they don't sell. I think I will be SOL once they find out I'm connecting with a 'non-standard' phone.
/drt
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rogers is really bad when it comes to supporting phones they don't have. You may want to call them and lie, and say you and a TYTN instead of a Tilt, and see if they will try to help.
That being said, I know about 3 guys that have gotten either a TYTN II or a Tilt in the Vancouver area and have popped in their SIM card and everything has worked just fine, including myself. Have you tried flashing a different radio - I am using 1.27.12.17 - perhaps the At&T radios don't work in Canada?...just a thought

here is a link to the radio thread, where you can download the 1.27.12.17 radio...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=349375

zakhir_n said:
rogers is really bad when it comes to supporting phones they don't have. You may want to call them and lie, and say you and a TYTN instead of a Tilt, and see if they will try to help.
That being said, I know about 3 guys that have gotten either a TYTN II or a Tilt in the Vancouver area and have popped in their SIM card and everything has worked just fine, including myself. Have you tried flashing a different radio - I am using 1.27.12.17 - perhaps the At&T radios don't work in Canada?...just a thought
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OK, the radio I currently have is 1.27.12.11. Do I have to HardSPL before I install the new radio? Also, I notice you've SuperCID unlocked as well... do I need to do that also?
Thanks for the link to the radio file.
/drt

Well, I got it to work, but...
The ongoing saga continues....
a) HardSPL'd and Flashed in a new radio 1.27.12.17. No change.
b) Played with the network settings a bit, and could occassionally get the phone to 'downgrade' to an Edge cx, and voila! the phone started working. But AT&T's software doesn't give me the option to 'hold' it there.
c) Talked to Rogers tech support -- pretty helpful really. They asked for the # of my SIM card and said it wasn't a '3G' card (it IS pretty old) and suggested I get a new one from the local guys. Went up, got one for free (since I gave them my old one) and tried it -- No luck, same problem.
d) Flashed QMobile 1.2 ROM -- still getting the at&t screen on initial startup, but everything else seems good and the HTC-ish stuff it's supposed to be.
e) Went to configure the phone band settings. If I leave them on 'Auto', it finds the Rogers 3G network and hooks up, but the same problem arises -- when it finishes dialing and tries to connect, it just ends the calls. And incoming calls go directly to my voicemail. HOWEVER, if I specifically configure it for GSM network and the 1900+850 bands, then it locks onto Edge and the phone works fine.
I guess it's back to tech support with Rogers to see what they have to say about my account, etc.
Very Weird.
/drt

similar looking thread here which might be helpful
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=335074
Im personally still using the original at&t tilt radio ver 1.27.12.11 on Rogers and haven't had problems with voice on 3G. I haven't ever used a data connection with Rogers however..

Comatose said:
similar looking thread here which might be helpful
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=335074
Im personally still using the original at&t tilt radio ver 1.27.12.11 on Rogers and haven't had problems with voice on 3G. I haven't ever used a data connection with Rogers however..
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Yup...from that thread, the description sounds EXACTLY like the difficulties I'm experiencing. It appears to be a hardware failure... Unfortunately, I bought from a guy on eBay, so I'm not sure I can send it in for repair. It works on Edge though, and that will be good enough for now.
Thanks everyone for the help.
/drt

Problem Text Messaging outside of my home!

Hello guys, i'm about to pull my hair out from frustration! I have an unlocked Tilt, on T-Mobile running on the HTC windows 6.1 Rom and for some reason i cannot send or receive text messages if i leave a good distance from my house!
Once i'm near my house by a block or so i'll receive and send text messages no problem, but there are patches around my town where i can't send or receive it. I tried switching my Sim card to an older phone and texting where i couldn't text on my Tilt, and the texts went through no problem, i just need to know if it's my phone or the carrier's fault. I plan on testing my Tilt and Wing in the same area's to see if that can shed some light, but i need help!

True2TheGame said:
Hello guys, i'm about to pull my hair out from frustration! I have an unlocked Tilt, on T-Mobile running on the HTC windows 6.1 Rom and for some reason i cannot send or receive text messages if i leave a good distance from my house!
Once i'm near my house by a block or so i'll receive and send text messages no problem, but there are patches around my town where i can't send or receive it. I tried switching my Sim card to an older phone and texting where i couldn't text on my Tilt, and the texts went through no problem, i just need to know if it's my phone or the carrier's fault. I plan on testing my Tilt and Wing in the same area's to see if that can shed some light, but i need help!
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What's the reception like? You might try flashing a new radio, might give you better reception in some patches. What wm6.1 rom/radio are you using?

Currently my Rom Version is 3.03.405.0 WWE
Radio Version 1.64.06.04
I've tried countless rom's at first i thought it was because of windows 6.1 so i tried the HTC Windows 6.0 rom which didn't work either.
If you think i could use a better rom would you please let me know, i'm willing to do anything to fix this problem!
Thanks

i think it has nothing to do with a better rom...its just if the radio is fitting for the location u are at

True2TheGame said:
Currently my Rom Version is 3.03.405.0 WWE
Radio Version 1.64.06.04
I've tried countless rom's at first i thought it was because of windows 6.1 so i tried the HTC Windows 6.0 rom which didn't work either.
If you think i could use a better rom would you please let me know, i'm willing to do anything to fix this problem!
Thanks
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I have several wm6.1 radios in the link in my signature. try them and see what you get. i am using the niki 1.58.16.27 radio. i like it the best, but it really depends on your location

thank you for your reply's i will try different radio's and see which one works best for me, thanks once again.

True2TheGame said:
thank you for your reply's i will try different radio's and see which one works best for me, thanks once again.
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no problem man, that's what we're all here for.

One quick question about Radio's, are they just for signal strength? because i can make and receive calls just fine in areas, but no matter how strong my signal is i still can't send/receive text messages.

True2TheGame said:
One quick question about Radio's, are they just for signal strength? because i can make and receive calls just fine in areas, but no matter how strong my signal is i still can't send/receive text messages.
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well i don't know for sure that changing the radio will make any difference but it might help. you're having that trouble just with the sms huh? and always only in those areas?

Yeah it seems touch and go, in some places it refuses to work, but in others, such as my home it works flawlessly. It even worked on the freeway on the way to Canada, and even in Canada on Roger's network. I tried calling T-Mobile and they thought it was weird how it works in some areas but not others.

True2TheGame said:
Yeah it seems touch and go, in some places it refuses to work, but in others, such as my home it works flawlessly. It even worked on the freeway on the way to Canada, and even in Canada on Roger's network. I tried calling T-Mobile and they thought it was weird how it works in some areas but not others.
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that does seem very odd. hopefully the radio change helps, otherwise you'll have to find someone wiser than me to help you, or just chalk it up to a network glitch. good luck

True2TheGame said:
thank you for your reply's i will try different radio's and see which one works best for me, thanks once again.
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Please make a follow-up post to let us know what your findings are. It's an interesting problem you're having, and your data could be very useful for this and other issues!

So far tried a number of different radios and still haven't fixed the problem, but i've singled out the problem as the Phone, as i tried texting in places where i couldn't with my Tilt, on 2 different phones, one being the Tmobile Wing and they went through with no problems.
I'm gonna try Dutty's 6.1 rom and see if that changes anything, i'm pretty much trying anything that works now.

True2TheGame said:
So far tried a number of different radios and still haven't fixed the problem, but i've singled out the problem as the Phone, as i tried texting in places where i couldn't with my Tilt, on 2 different phones, one being the Tmobile Wing and they went through with no problems.
I'm gonna try Dutty's 6.1 rom and see if that changes anything, i'm pretty much trying anything that works now.
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So just to be clear, when you use an unlocked Tilt on T-Mobile's network, you have difficulty receiving text messages. But when you put your SIM into a T-Mobile phone (Wing), text messages come through fine? If I understood your posts correctly, and my summarization is accurate, then it sound to me as if the Tilt is having problems accessing data services when its roaming off T-Mobile's network.
I would make a note of 3-5 specific areas where you have problems with SMS (ie 300 Block of N Maple Ave), and then call T-Mobile and ask them where their closest cell tower(s) is/are to those areas.
If my memory serves correct, T-Mobile uses GSM 1800/1900 in the US, but AT&T is still mostly 850/1900, and the Tilt may have issues receiving SMS messages while on a GSM 850 tower. You mentioned that the phone worked in Canada on the Rogers network, maybe they are on 1800/1900. Can someone from Canada confirm this last part??
These are just some thoughts of mine as I mindlessly watch TV, so who knows, I could be entirely wrong...

NotATreoFan said:
So just to be clear, when you use an unlocked Tilt on T-Mobile's network, you have difficulty receiving text messages. But when you put your SIM into a T-Mobile phone (Wing), text messages come through fine? If I understood your posts correctly, and my summarization is accurate, then it sound to me as if the Tilt is having problems accessing data services when its roaming off T-Mobile's network.
I would make a note of 3-5 specific areas where you have problems with SMS (ie 300 Block of N Maple Ave), and then call T-Mobile and ask them where their closest cell tower(s) is/are to those areas.
If my memory serves correct, T-Mobile uses GSM 1800/1900 in the US, but AT&T is still mostly 850/1900, and the Tilt may have issues receiving SMS messages while on a GSM 850 tower. You mentioned that the phone worked in Canada on the Rogers network, maybe they are on 1800/1900. Can someone from Canada confirm this last part??
These are just some thoughts of mine as I mindlessly watch TV, so who knows, I could be entirely wrong...
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Hmmm interesting, now if i informed T-Mobile of this problem is there any way to remedy it without having to go back on a Tmobile phone?

is your tilt set to text through gprs or gsm? that might make the difference..

True2TheGame said:
Hmmm interesting, now if i informed T-Mobile of this problem is there any way to remedy it without having to go back on a Tmobile phone?
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If it is an issue with GSM 850, then you may be stuck with running cooked ROMs based off of AT&T originals since their network still supports this frequency. To my knowledge there are no WM 6.1 ROMs with an AT&T base currently available.
It could also be a hardware issue... The section of flash memory on your device that stores the radio could have bad sectors (GSLEON3 would be someone who may be able to help you check this).
How did you come to get the Tilt? If you know someone with AT&T service, you can have them put their SIM in and then call AT&T Warranty and get the phone replaced under the 1 year warranty.
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Second thought... Have you tried to force the phone into 1800/1900 GSM through the Band Settings tab under Settings --> Personal --> Phone --> Band ?

Currently it's set as GSM, do you think i should change it to GPRS?

NotATreoFan said:
If it is an issue with GSM 850, then you may be stuck with running cooked ROMs based off of AT&T originals since their network still supports this frequency. To my knowledge there are no WM 6.1 ROMs with an AT&T base currently available.
It could also be a hardware issue... The section of flash memory on your device that stores the radio could have bad sectors (GSLEON3 would be someone who may be able to help you check this).
How did you come to get the Tilt? If you know someone with AT&T service, you can have them put their SIM in and then call AT&T Warranty and get the phone replaced under the 1 year warranty.
Second thought... Have you tried to force the phone into 1800/1900 GSM through the Band Settings tab under Settings --> Personal --> Phone --> Band ?
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Hmm i didn't even think to check their, i'm going to try it right now and report back.
EDIT- So should i be setting it at GSM(900+1800)+UMTS(2100) or GSM(1900+850)+UTMS(1900+850)?

WOW, Finally, thanks everyone for help but forcing the phone into the GSM 1800 band worked now i can finally fully enjoy my Tilt, Thanks once again!

Diamond sends SMS after each boot

I got me a Touch Diamond in the rounder shape of the T-Mobile MDA Compact IV. It came in a sealed box from eBay and I've used unlocking software that I also found on eBay. As it turns out, this software seems to originate from this forum.
As far as I've researched it, right after the lock was removed, the phone started sending SMS messages to the number SMS032837 each time it is reset (since I've never used this phone locked it *could* have done this already, but I doubt it). Even if I switch off the GSM radio, and then reset, the phone waits for the radio to come back on and immedately sends a message.
I have no clue to what's the message is about or whoever is the recipiant but that's not the main issue here; it should not do this, period.
ROM: 1.37.110.3
Radio: 1.20.OliNex
Protocol: 52.26a.25.09U
Anyone any idea what is going on?
TIA,
XDArjen

sorry i dont have any idea
try this steps
1-try hard reset
if not work
2- you have an old ROM so
upgrade it to the latest ROM for your country or use cooked ROM if you want

Could a program similar to RemoteTracker be installed on your Diamond ?
That would explain the SMS, as the software detects that you changed the SIM card.

yea sounds like some program like remotetracker, try flashing a new ROM, as i assume it's build into the ROM by the seller, no idea why though.

xdarjen said:
I got me a Touch Diamond in the rounder shape of the T-Mobile MDA Compact IV. It came in a sealed box from eBay and I've used unlocking software that I also found on eBay. As it turns out, this software seems to originate from this forum.
As far as I've researched it, right after the lock was removed, the phone started sending SMS messages to the number SMS032837 each time it is reset (since I've never used this phone locked it *could* have done this already, but I doubt it). Even if I switch off the GSM radio, and then reset, the phone waits for the radio to come back on and immedately sends a message.
I have no clue to what's the message is about or whoever is the recipiant but that's not the main issue here; it should not do this, period.
ROM: 1.37.110.3
Radio: 1.20.OliNex
Protocol: 52.26a.25.09U
Anyone any idea what is going on?
TIA,
XDArjen
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Hi,
I`ve got MDA Compact IV on T-Mobile UK with original ROM and Radio (I just need to) and I`ve noticed that after every re-boot it sends above mentioned by you text.
Actually, it sends 2 texts: 1st to 32837 (on the on-line bill it`s clasified as
"unbranded" and it`s free of any charge)
2nd to 100203005 (clasified as "SMS text messaging" and it is also free).
I was surprised as well, so started to investigate.
I`ve found that above texts got something to do with W`n Walk service and T-Mobile My Faves and they are like a system messages.
They are NOT using any of the tariff allowances and they are completely free.
I`m sure because I`m checking my bill very carefully every month and it is my 3rd bill since I started using Compact IV.
I think that every HTC Diamond and MDA Compact IV sends those texts when logging into GSM Networks, but not every network provider shows them on their bills. With T-Mobile it shows on My T-Mobile On-Line account, but not on any paper or electronic bill.
There is more info about the case on other forums, just "google" them numbers and you will find it.
So, DON`T PANIC, everything is in order.
P.S.
My handset is unlocked and I was using foreign SIM card with, whilst on holiday and I haven`t noticed any extra charges for above texts, nor any other problem.
Regards.

snark_be said:
Could a program similar to RemoteTracker be installed on your Diamond ?
That would explain the SMS, as the software detects that you changed the SIM card.
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Hey snark_be,
I'm not sure, it's a brand new T-Mobile that I got in a sealed box. The owner got it as an upgrade but didn't want it. So it came locked to T-Mobile and I had to unlock it since I'm not a T-Mobile customer.
Could T-Mobile be using this tracking method? The seller of the unlocker could have added it, I don't know, he hasn't answered my email (yet).
The SMS goes anytime the device boots, not just after inserting the SIM.
HTC ROM upgrade site rejects my serial number if I want to download a new ROM.

Addicteddddd said:
yea sounds like some program like remotetracker, try flashing a new ROM, as i assume it's build into the ROM by the seller, no idea why though.
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That was the plan, but that seem's a bit of a hornet's nest. Can I assume safely that the T-Mobile is a true HTC Touch Diamond? Will I be able to return to non-brick if something doesn't work? I mean when I install Hard-SPL first (it's installed already by the unlocker, but an older version, like 1.24)?

kowalsky_tom said:
Hi,
I think that every HTC Diamond and MDA Compact IV sends those texts when logging into GSM Networks, but not every network provider shows them on their bills. With T-Mobile it shows on My T-Mobile On-Line account, but not on any paper or electronic bill.
Regards.
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Tom, they show up on my bill, so I have to pay for them. And my provider logs them as International calls.
I don't have the luxury of sitting idle because it make the device useless as a phone. I will peruse the forum about this matter but I was already planning upgrading the ROM as I find the device very unresponsive.

have a look in the rom section here and install a new one

xdarjen said:
That was the plan, but that seem's a bit of a hornet's nest. Can I assume safely that the T-Mobile is a true HTC Touch Diamond? Will I be able to return to non-brick if something doesn't work? I mean when I install Hard-SPL first (it's installed already by the unlocker, but an older version, like 1.24)?
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Just flash the latest HardSPL, 1.93 I think, and then head over to the Diamond Wiki and download/flash the newest WWE ROM you find (1.94 I think).

T-Mobile Setup on HTC Tilt

I called up ATT and got the unlock code for my friends old HTC Tilt, unlocked and placed my T-Mobile SIM card in it which has an active voice + text + web account on it, with the default ATT Rom on it I was only able to set it up to do voice and text, whenever I tried using the Data connection for like let's say IE it would bring up a page for web2go, even after Flashing the phone with different ROMs I found on this great site and went through the auto communication setup for t-mobile, and still it only does voice + text, any ideas?
Right now here are my specs:
HTC Tilt
R: 1.70.19.09
G: 25.83.40.02H
D: 3.TPCElite
HardSPL 3.29
Let me know if you need any more info..

Call T-Mobile Support
Same thing happened to me last night. I called them this morning and they fixed it in about 10 minutes.

ok cool, so I should just call them up and they should be able to tell me what to do? or do you know how?
thanks in advance,
-b3ck

There should be a cab file somewhere that sets it all up for you.

I called up T-Mobile and talked with one of their non-supported device technicians (they have an entire support dept. of these guys) and it was actually on their end, they had to allow the IMEI to use the Data plan, because basically the phone was like Hi let me use the Data on the Network and the network was like what's your name? and the phone was like I'm John Smith, and the network was like your not on the list sorry.
So.. yea I was talking with a very smart tech support lady @ T-Mobile, she even mentioned these forums, she said she recommends it to people that have devices that aren't supported by t-mobile she even wanted to know which ROM I flashed onto my Tilt =)
Anyways everything is good to go now, thanks everyone!
-b3ck

Did you have to slip here a fiver?

ChumleyEX said:
Did you have to slip here a fiver?
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huh? I don't know what that means..

I have an issue. I just switched my entire plan over to the even more plus. On my old plan I had tzones and it works great for everything. Now I have the web2go. The problem is not getting the device to work on the internet2.voicestream.com, that works fine, but it is the battery drain. In a 4 hour period it will kill a full battery. When I remove the internet2 setting then the battery lasts all day. anyone else see this issue. BTW I'm using the JJblaster 23518 and radio 1.70.18.02
what do you all think, a bit odd for it to drain the battery that fast?

b3ck said:
huh? I don't know what that means..
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Doh it should have read, "did you slip HER a fiver" in other words, did you tip her?