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Problems with Internet Sharing on ATT Tilt

Hi -- I'm trying to use my ATT Tilt to share internet with my Axim x51v. It _seems_ to be working: I run Internet Sharing on the Tilt ("Bluetooth Pan", "MEdia Net") and connect to its "Network Access Point" via Bluetooth from the x51v.
It seems to connect properly, but the connection is extremely slow: Internet Explorer will sit on "locating" for about 15 seconds for each page I try to load, then load pages at just a few K per minute. This despite my running an HSDPA internet connection on the Tilt. Does anyone have any idea why this would be so slow? Is there a better way to use the 3G-enabled Tilt to get a high-speed internet connection to my x51v?
Thanks!
Alan

your bottle neck is probable the bluetooth. i would suggest you go get WmWifiRouter, i love it and its really fast even on EDGE.
http://www.wmwifirouter.com/

Free version found here: http://freewarepocketpc.org/2008/communication/wmwifirouter-v089-turn-phone-into-accesspoint
Works great but no encryption and it's a battery hog.

they want me to pay for "tethering"
Up until a month ago, I had the 8525 from at&t. it had internet sharing pre-loaded on it, and the program worked exceptionally well. Unfortunately, my 8525's lcd started whiting out and I ended up getting it warranty replaced with a tilt. to my dismay, I couldn't find the program for internet sharing. after a little digging, I found that the program was still there, but that at&t had hidden it.
Since finding the program, however I have been unable to get it to work.
I connect via usb cable, and I hit connect. The tilt connects to MEdiaNet, but then when I try to open ie on my notebook, I am unable to connect. Then, when I check the connection in the networking and sharing center on the notebook, it tells me that the network I'm currently connected to is local only.
I called At&t for help with this, and they tell me now that there's an additional charge for "tethering" and asked if I would like to upgrade to it.
is there a rom that would allow me to use the internet sharing?

Messenger Live and t zones

Hi,
I am trying to make my t zones work for the internet and I somehow made it work for the web access. But when I try to connect with the Live messenger, it tells me that there is no signal and that: "There is connectivity problem..."
When I am on WiFi it works without a hitch and when I am through USB as well. Just not through GPRS. I do not see it even attempt to connect through GPRS. Is there a way to tell it to connect through wireless?
Thanks

T-Zones is a proxy service and Messenger will not work with a proxy. For this, you need the full T-Mobile internet service plan ($20/month). At some point, it is assumed that the T-Zones work around to get internet access will probably go away... you really aren't supposed to use T-Zones the way many are using it. Until that time, consider yourself lucky to be getting access for email and web browsing.

yup, I am lucky
JonnoB said:
T-Zones is a proxy service and Messenger will not work with a proxy. For this, you need the full T-Mobile internet service plan ($20/month). At some point, it is assumed that the T-Zones work around to get internet access will probably go away... you really aren't supposed to use T-Zones the way many are using it. Until that time, consider yourself lucky to be getting access for email and web browsing.
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OK, I found out that the problem was on the T-mobile side. They did not activate the plan, but it is weird because I was able to got online couple times. Right now it is working, just like you said - internet, but not messenger. I think that at this point I will stick with T zones. Since T-mobile does not offer 3G, I do not know if to invest in $20 plan. I get through T zones pretty slow connection, but I do not know if through data plan you get faster connection. Anybody?

kolibrik said:
OK, I found out that the problem was on the T-mobile side. They did not activate the plan, but it is weird because I was able to got online couple times. Right now it is working, just like you said - internet, but not messenger. I think that at this point I will stick with T zones. Since T-mobile does not offer 3G, I do not know if to invest in $20 plan. I get through T zones pretty slow connection, but I do not know if through data plan you get faster connection. Anybody?
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Data plan does not get you faster speed, but you could use socket services to say play online games or use different IMs, and of course if you travels a lot around airport or stay at starbucks a lot, the hotspot is a real plus, for just $14 more a month...

lifanus said:
Data plan does not get you faster speed, but you could use socket services to say play online games or use different IMs, and of course if you travels a lot around airport or stay at starbucks a lot, the hotspot is a real plus, for just $14 more a month...
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I have tryed all tmobile setting and different rom but i still can not get t-zone to work..

That is odd?
soloyo said:
I have tryed all tmobile setting and different rom but i still can not get t-zone to work..
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I actually changed to Data Plan, because the Hot Spot is really nice for my laptop and so I got it. The odd thing is I did not have to change anything in my settings and they still work. Have not tried the Proxy server yet for IM yet.
Check some forums, I think somebody posted exact setting on the forum, but I can give you mine:
WAP: 216.155.50:9201
Secure WAP: 216.155.165.50:9203
Socks: 216.155.165.50:1080
This should work just fine for the data (does fine for me). I know that somebody also posted a cab file for T-Mobile settings, look up the forums the name is tmobyjoe599
Good luck!

Internet Sharing - Bad Connectivity

I’m here on the coast at Keesler Air Force base. There is no internet to speak of and I do not want to spend roughly $1,400 to obtain it through a Cell provider for my laptop. I setup the Internet Sharing on my TILT and it works somewhat. Well, I lied. It stays “connected” however the damn thing peers off and the laptop continuously loses connectivity.
I only use Skype and sometimes webmail with the Internet Sharing and it cannot handle it. Every minute, sometimes up to six minutes, Skype videocalls and standard webcalls are dropped and I test the internet connection to see that it’s timing out for another minute or so and then it magically reappears.
I closed all applications and the antivirus crap to ensure that there was no extra throughput bandwidth. Anyway, I’m about to lose my damn mind here because I cannot stay in contact with my fiancée who’s on the other side of the globe right now.
According to the phone I’m only getting the Edge network and that makes sense as there are not 3G towers nearby. The signal continually shifts from two bars to four bars. I have used the Kraiser Tweak to enable HDSPA but that service is not being picked up.
Any ideas as to how I can keep the connectivity from dropping between the cellphone and the laptop? I assume that’s the issue as the phone stays “Status: connected” within the Internet Sharing application.
If it matters, I can only use the "Media Net" option under Network Connections. Media Net utilizes the wap.cingular access point.
I have tried to use the "ATT ISP GPRS" option but it continually loops through attempts to connect to the internet. Eventually it gives up without any success. The ATT ISP GPRS uses the isp.cingular access point.
Please any assistance would be most appreciated. This United States Airman is about to lose is frigging mind over the fact that he can’t communicate with anyone any longer. Ugh!!!
Thanks to any thoughts and advice to better my situation...
Oh and for the record, if it isn't understood being a Tilt, my provider is ATT.

HSDPA will not work without 3G service. MEdia Net is the best way to tether, I use it all the time. Make sure the proxy option is unchecked, or you will get very poor speeds and high latency.

What do you mean by HSDPA? Also, I tried with MEDIANET but I continually lost connectivity. However, ATT ISP GPRS seems just as bad if not worse. Any thoughts on something I can do to boost connectivity? I don't know about the proxy but where I looked one is NOT enabled.
I enabled IP Compression and Software Compression for ATT ISP GPRS and it hasn't seem to have any affect...
Thanks a lot.

crypted said:
What do you mean by HSDPA? Also, I tried with MEDIANET but I continually lost connectivity. However, ATT ISP GPRS seems just as bad if not worse. Any thoughts on something I can do to boost connectivity? I don't know about the proxy but where I looked one is NOT enabled.
I enabled IP Compression and Software Compression for ATT ISP GPRS and it hasn't seem to have any affect...
Thanks a lot.
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You mentioned HSDPA, so that's why I said it. As for ATT ISP GPRS, you do not want to use that unless you have a modem tethering option on your AT&T account. If you go under MEdia Net settings, and then check the Proxy tab, make sure the proxy option is unchecked.

Allrighty, I've confirmed that the Proxy is not enabled. The only thing on the Proxy option section that is enabled is the first option where it says this network connects to the internet.
Any ideas on stabilizing internet on a 2 - 3 bar Edge network? If I do more than one task (more than one website OR a website and Skype) the internet gets lost quite easily...
Thanks a lot man.

Wow when I was over that way I dont recall have any issues with ATT and internet. When I access the net while tethered I use the ATT program that connects via laptop... Its not the internet sharing program.... Its called ATT Communication Manager... It may read as being tethered so if you dont have tethering on your plan then I dont know if id use it. If you have tethering it works great for me. Heres a link for the download...
http://www.wireless.att.com/businesssupport/setupOTW.do?phone=ATTTilt

You might want to try flashing another rom and radio. I remember I had an issue similar to this with my hermes from ATT. Swapping to another radio can definitely boost your signal quality. If your signal drops too low even for a second, it can cause major latency issues on the edge network( which WILL cause skype to dop a call ) . I recommend trying a ROM that already has a radio packaged in with it to save you the trouble of having to match a radio to a rom. Also look for one that has the network configuration cab built in so it can automatically set up your Connection settings for you.
Hope this helps

Allrighty... I don't have much time to research ROMS or RADIOS unfortunately. Any suggestions on where to find them, or what I might use? I'd almost prefer just to change RADIOS so long as I can find the original RADIO to replace any changes back to what I was using...
Currently, I have:
ROM 1.62.502.0
RADIO 1.27.14.09
Any help to further this US Airman along would be appreciated.
Thanks.

3G Speed Test: Seriously? That's it?!?

AT&T Full strength "3G" connection is only clocking in at around 350kbps. Horrible. Edge is more like 120kbps.
I am using Medianet, have the PDA connect plan (that they forced me into), and even went to the trouble to utilize the "restore proxy" program in "tools" - no matter - still 350kbps. Sometimes it will come in over 400, but not often.
Wouldn't be so frustrating if it weren't for the fact that I'm sitting there with my wifes 3G iphone on the same network in the same place using the same speed test and she will regularly come in around 1400kbps.
Called AT&T to no avail. They said they were going to research it and set up an appointment to call me back even, but then they no-showed the appointment and never called.
What on earth am I doing wrong? How can I speed this thing up?

Have you tried changing ur connection settings to AT&T ISP instead of medianet? That always gets me super fast speeds.

Haven't tried that - was under the impression that you had to have the "tethering" plan to utilize the ISP address.
Is that my problem? Anyone else having medianet speed issues? What speeds are others getting?

jonathanrobertbolton said:
Haven't tried that - was under the impression that you had to have the "tethering" plan to utilize the ISP address.
Is that my problem? Anyone else having medianet speed issues? What speeds are others getting?
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what site are you using and maybe we can compare?

Try enabling HSDPA and see the difference

And if you're doing it ON the phone, you're doing it wrong. USB tethered I see about 2000k/sec here sometimes, but more typically 1400. On the phone itself I MIGHT see 700k.

Tried enabling hsdpa - but no difference. Suposedly its already enabled on these phones - just reads "3g" all the time.
Also trying tethered and getting the exact same speeds.
Using dslreports.com - they have a lowbandwidth that works well with phones...
Other thoughts?

azazelx said:
Have you tried changing ur connection settings to AT&T ISP instead of medianet? That always gets me super fast speeds.
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Thanks. I just tried this, but for some reason it can't connect, and no proxy is not enabled. Any ideas?

Tilt Fanatic said:
Thanks. I just tried this, but for some reason it can't connect, and no proxy is not enabled. Any ideas?
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Same here.

azazelx said:
Have you tried changing ur connection settings to AT&T ISP instead of medianet? That always gets me super fast speeds.
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Are you able to do this without a tethering plan? I've tried to enable and it doesn't work. I do have the PDA unlimited plan. Any special settings needed other than changing from Media Net to AT&T ISP in the Network Management settings?

try mobilespeedtest.com. I get between 4mb and 6mb down, consistently. Until a month ago I never got higher than 400 to 700k. It does seem loads snappier. Come to think of it, I did upgrade to wm6.1 about the same time, and I do have HSDPA enabled via kaiser tweaks.
ATT TILT
Stock WM 6.1 minus the bloatware

megatec45 said:
Are you able to do this without a tethering plan? I've tried to enable and it doesn't work. I do have the PDA unlimited plan. Any special settings needed other than changing from Media Net to AT&T ISP in the Network Management settings?
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I don't know what you're doing exactly, but what you need to do is change your access point from wap.cingular to isp.cingular.
Last I checked, any plan over $30 gave you access to isp.cingular, but that may have changed. You can always use it, but if your plan doesn't have it they might charge you per kb. If that happens, I've never heard of a case where AT&T wouldn't remove the resulting charge.

boss1234 said:
try mobilespeedtest.com. I get between 4mb and 6mb down, consistently. Until a month ago I never got higher than 400 to 700k. It does seem loads snappier. Come to think of it, I did upgrade to wm6.1 about the same time, and I do have HSDPA enabled via kaiser tweaks.
ATT TILT
Stock WM 6.1 minus the bloatware
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AT&T has been rolling out support for 7.2Mbps HSDPA, you probably just got it in your city. Where do you live?

gthing said:
AT&T has been rolling out support for 7.2Mbps HSDPA, you probably just got it in your city. Where do you live?
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I live in the Memphis, Tn area.

gthing said:
I don't know what you're doing exactly, but what you need to do is change your access point from wap.cingular to isp.cingular.
Last I checked, any plan over $30 gave you access to isp.cingular, but that may have changed. You can always use it, but if your plan doesn't have it they might charge you per kb. If that happens, I've never heard of a case where AT&T wouldn't remove the resulting charge.
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I have the the PDA unlimited data plan, $30.00. Tried to change networks several times, and made sure the settings used isp.cingular. It will not connect to the Internet until I change back to Medianet.

gthing said:
I don't know what you're doing exactly, but what you need to do is change your access point from wap.cingular to isp.cingular.
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(sigh) - If only it were that easy. I've spent the last two hours trying to research these settings online to no avail.
350kbps. 350kbps. Maybe I just need a new phone. I am not sure this thing is worth it anymore...

jonathanrobertbolton said:
(sigh) - If only it were that easy. I've spent the last two hours trying to research these settings online to no avail.
350kbps. 350kbps. Maybe I just need a new phone. I am not sure this thing is worth it anymore...
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If it's a Kaiser, it's not likely the phone. It's your provider. Unless you have two phones side-by-side and one is giving higher speeds than the other, it's likely just your provider/location/etc.

khaytsus said:
If it's a Kaiser, it's not likely the phone. It's your provider. Unless you have two phones side-by-side and one is giving higher speeds than the other, it's likely just your provider/location/etc.
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Um wasn't that was he was doing? The Iphone right next to it was getting blazing fast speeds compared to the tilt..

jonathanrobertbolton said:
(sigh) - If only it were that easy. I've spent the last two hours trying to research these settings online to no avail.
350kbps. 350kbps. Maybe I just need a new phone. I am not sure this thing is worth it anymore...
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Got my ISP to work after 45min talking to tech support.
After selecting AT&t ISP click edit
Click edit again once the second page opens
Name for connection should be AT&T ISP GPRS, click next
Access point name - isp.cingular, click next
These are the settings that had to be changed
User Name - ISP.CINGULARGPRS.COM
Password - CINGULAR1
Domain - keep blank
Make sure both the PW & User Name are in Caps
Click Advanced
Check "Use server- assigned IP address
Check " use IP header compression
all others on the page are un-checked
Click OK
Click Finish
Make sure to Restore Hidden Proxy
It should work after that!!!!
Update: Don't know why, it worked flawlessly 2 times connecting to the Internet, now it's back to the same cannot connect message. I give up!

megatec45 said:
Got my ISP to work after 45min talking to tech support.
After selecting AT&t ISP click edit
Click edit again once the second page opens
Name for connection should be AT&T ISP GPRS, click next
Access point name - isp.cingular, click next
These are the settings that had to be changed
User Name - ISP.CINGULARGPRS.COM
Password - CINGULAR1
Domain - keep blank
Make sure both the PW & User Name are in Caps
Click Advanced
Check "Use server- assigned IP address
Check " use IP header compression
all others on the page are un-checked
Click OK
Click Finish
Make sure to Restore Hidden Proxy
It should work after that!!!!
Update: Don't know why, it worked flawlessly 2 times connecting to the Internet, now it's back to the same cannot connect message. I give up!
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So I deleted all my connections, yet when I try to make one called "AT&T ISP GPRS," it says, "A connection with that name already exists." What's the deal?

[Q] Gal S - Can I stream through 3G

Hi Everyone,
Can anyone help advise me?
I dont have a good ADSL connection here in Lincolnshire UK. Down load and upload speeds are low(2.5 d - 0.35 up).
But I do have a huge Cell Tower across the lane....I believe my Skype phone bars are high due to the tower.So my question is - can I stream LIVE content from the GAL S onto a wordpress blog or webpage through 3G?
I dont even have WiFi here.
Will 3G stream LIVE conent from my phone onto a wordpress blog for ex?
I dont want to buy a phone on contract and find out I cant stream onto the web.Is it best to wait for the Gal S 2?
Thanks Elton UK.

Your are mixing and misunderstanding a lot of things here (no offense).
Use wikipedia and search those terms to figure it out: 3G, Streaming over internet, wifi.
Elton777 said:
Hi Everyone,
Can anyone help advise me?
I dont have a good ADSL connection here in Lincolnshire UK. Down load and upload speeds are low(2.5 d - 0.35 up).
But I do have a huge Cell Tower across the lane....I believe my Skype phone bars are high due to the tower.So my question is - can I stream LIVE content from the GAL S onto a wordpress blog or webpage through 3G?
I dont even have WiFi here.
Will 3G stream LIVE conent from my phone onto a wordpress blog for ex?
I dont want to buy a phone on contract and find out I cant stream onto the web.Is it best to wait for the Gal S 2?
Thanks Elton UK.
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An application that streams over internet won't care if you use 3G or wifi.
Same goes for using the phone on your desktop computer as internet source.

Dark3n said:
An application that streams over internet won't care if you use 3G or wifi.
Same goes for using the phone on your desktop computer as internet source.
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Thanks -Elton .

Depending on the application you use, the developer could have implemented, a warning that you are using 3G, he could even block you from using his app over 3G but i don't see why he would do that.